#hazzy | Logs for 2018-07-12
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[01:04:51] <hazzy-lab> man, Brender gets on my nerves :D
[01:04:56] <hazzy-lab> gn8
[01:08:14] <hazzy-lab> I think that backhoes, and trains and cars should all have the same controls and instruments, it would make it so much easier for people that own all off them to not have to learn a new interface
[01:08:37] <hazzy-lab> sorry, I should go to bed :)
[03:32:11] <Lcvette> she is nuts
[03:33:34] <Lcvette> just saw her post, I'm done, just let her give you what she has and let's run with what we need to do if there's an issue with changing things, tell me and I'll make you new screens
[03:33:43] <Lcvette> better screens
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[07:47:45] <Lcvette> logs
[09:32:04] <hazzy-lab> morning
[09:33:19] <hazzy-lab> Lcvette: Yeah, I think thats all we can do at this point. Thanks!
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[11:42:21] <hazzy-lab> Ok, I pushed a bunch of bad code :)
[11:42:54] <hazzy-lab> There is now a makefile
[11:42:58] <hazzy-lab> TurBoss: To get the _rc.py files you need to run make
[11:43:14] <hazzy-lab> then the xyz.ini should run
[11:43:25] <hazzy-lab> let me know if you have problems
[11:44:05] <hazzy-lab> Lcvette: There is where the code is if you are interested: https://gitlab.com
[11:44:17] <hazzy-lab> I'm off to work on the engine
[12:22:24] <Lcvette> hazzy, i meant the pictures..lol
[12:23:05] <Lcvette> if there was a conflict in changing her designs etc
[12:23:55] <Lcvette> the icons you needed
[12:24:01] <Lcvette> i would make them
[12:24:19] <Lcvette> i don't know the voodoo that you doo
[14:58:44] <Lcvette[m]> as in the layout, buttons, work flow, i don't know the coding part AT ALL
[14:59:11] <Lcvette[m]> but I will work with people who want to make something cool and are wanting to collaborate
[15:00:44] <Lcvette[m]> i can be a point and shoot guy with tasks you assign or can be creative if you want me to be and if you want to try and train me with small technical stuff i can help with that but heavy coding im not gonna be much help as i don't have that type spongy brain unless there is a finger paint level learn to coder tutorial..lol
[15:01:47] <Lcvette[m]> > as in the layout, buttons, work flow, i don't know the coding part AT ALL
[15:02:09] <Lcvette[m]> by that i mean i am happy to work on the layout, buttons, workflow, design
[15:02:15] <Lcvette[m]> but i don't know the coding
[15:02:26] <Lcvette[m]> i can work within your programming constraints
[15:02:42] <Lcvette[m]> and then read everything that followed the same
[15:16:14] <hazzy-lab> Lcvette: Yes, I knew you meant you could help with the images/pictures, not the coding
[15:16:54] <hazzy-lab> I think there are fewer people that can make good pictures than those who can code
[15:17:21] <hazzy-lab> so your ability to do that is very valuable
[15:18:20] <hazzy-lab> For example the lathe tools you rendered, I could not even come close to doing that!
[15:22:41] <hazzy-lab> One of the most valuable ways you can help though is giving feedback on how the interface should work (like to have been trying to do for Brenda)
[15:41:55] <Lcvette[m]> example conversation with Benda
[15:41:57] <Lcvette[m]> Lcvette: [ Brenda, it may be better to have the tool table function in manner that allows users to enter tools and see how the information actually needs to be entered to make sense and be correct but it requires more room then the small box provided to do this adequately and will require some changes.]
[15:42:07] <Lcvette[m]> Brenda: [No]
[15:43:35] <Lcvette[m]> you can't talk to a stone wall
[15:44:08] <hazzy-lab> You can, but you won't get anywhere :D
[15:44:26] <Lcvette[m]> precisely
[15:44:36] <Lcvette[m]> hence my suggestion
[15:44:53] <Lcvette[m]> can we make changes to her design? or ios there a conflict?
[15:45:05] <Lcvette[m]> once she releases them
[15:46:42] <Lcvette[m]> im new to this who open source thing
[15:46:43] <hazzy-lab> I don't see why not, she might not be happy about that, but she can't complain too much
[15:46:48] <Lcvette[m]> so i don't know
[15:46:59] <Lcvette[m]> ok good
[15:47:07] <Lcvette[m]> then lets press to have her release them
[15:47:20] <Lcvette[m]> hjad i known that i would have just kept my mouth shut
[15:47:26] <Lcvette[m]> lol
[15:48:37] <hazzy-lab> she has not said what license she is going to use, but if its not GPL or something similar I won't touch it, and she can find somebody else to program it xD
[15:49:19] <Lcvette[m]> ah
[15:49:24] <Lcvette[m]> so she can dictate the license
[15:50:03] <hazzy-lab> Yes, but it would be silly for her to use something restrictive (but knowing here she might ..)
[15:50:57] <Lcvette[m]> can i license my images?
[15:51:07] <hazzy-lab> Yes, you should!
[15:51:18] <Lcvette[m]> hold them hostage
[15:51:28] <hazzy-lab> So the Chinese don't steel them :)
[15:51:32] <Lcvette[m]> for use only on open source
[15:52:10] <hazzy-lab> If you license them GPL they can only be used for opensource
[15:52:40] <hazzy-lab> It is not typical to license artwork as GPL, but you can
[15:53:19] <Lcvette[m]> so scandelous
[15:53:21] <Lcvette[m]> lol
[15:53:49] <Lcvette[m]> i just want the to be used for the best of what could be
[15:54:12] <Lcvette[m]> and it would make me made if they were used in some unchangeable design of hers
[15:54:24] <Lcvette[m]> i would feel robbed
[15:55:13] <Lcvette[m]> because that would NOT be something given for all like she claimed was her goal
[15:56:18] <hazzy-lab> Right. I don't understand why she is so keen on giving back, and then does not take any advice on what people need/want
[15:57:39] <Lcvette[m]> she wants her design realized an on a personal level i understand that
[15:58:00] <Lcvette[m]> but the issue is her design is inherantly flawed
[15:58:29] <Lcvette[m]> maybe not for her specific purposes
[15:59:09] <Lcvette[m]> but then it isn't a gui for all
[15:59:10] <Lcvette[m]> there in lies the conflict for me at least
[16:00:01] <Lcvette[m]> from my perspective i follow your logic
[16:00:49] <Lcvette[m]> when selecting the gui there should be a Brender gui with sub selections for mill, router, lathe, plasma
[16:00:51] <Lcvette[m]> maybe those even have a sub selection
[16:01:54] <Lcvette[m]> she drives me nuts.
[16:02:20] <hazzy-lab> exactly. There is nothing wrond with a router only GUI (maybe there should actualy be such a thing), but if you tought it as universal it needs to not limit people
[16:02:25] <Lcvette[m]> im out of space... brenda add axtra pop up screens, no
[16:02:27] <Lcvette[m]> lol
[16:02:30] <Lcvette[m]> i want to struggle with the fact that im out of space
[16:02:41] <hazzy-lab> lol
[16:03:54] <hazzy-lab> Actualy, I think she may not realize what is and it not easy to code, pop up screen are easy,things like the tool runtimer can be real time wasters
[16:04:40] <Lcvette[m]> that can go
[16:04:52] <Lcvette[m]> i think a program timer is important
[16:05:22] <Lcvette[m]> i like knowing how much time is left on an overall run of something but individual run timers per tool is a bit tedious and over the top
[16:05:39] <hazzy-lab> Yes, a a program timer would be great!
[16:05:41] <Lcvette[m]> i didn't realize thats what she meant when she posed the question
[16:07:31] <hazzy-lab> Its very hard to estimate how long a program will take to run (depends on machine accelerations, how londg it take s the soindle to get to speed ...) but I have an idea for making an estimate that "learns" from previous estimates
[16:08:20] <Lcvette[m]> i don't care about a countdown
[16:08:27] <Lcvette[m]> just a start timer
[16:08:40] <Lcvette[m]> my cam tells me time length of the program
[16:09:41] <lcvette[m]2> lost power
[16:09:54] <hazzy-lab> Like the Haas, This Cycle, and last Cycle timers?
[16:09:58] <hazzy-lab> oops
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[16:13:24] <Lcvette[m]> sorry big storm rolling through knocked out power
[16:14:46] <Lcvette[m]> i was saying a regular counter
[16:14:51] <Lcvette[m]> hit cycle start and it starts counting up
[16:14:56] <Lcvette[m]> 0:00 up
[16:15:31] <hazzy-lab> yeah, that is real simple to do
[16:15:41] <Lcvette[m]> so if i know my program length is 21:32, and i see the times is at 11:13
[16:15:45] <Lcvette[m]> yeah
[16:15:53] <hazzy-lab> On haas it also recorde the last cycle time, so you get an idea how much longer it will take
[16:16:12] <Lcvette[m]> that would be cool
[16:16:21] <hazzy-lab> Certainly need to add one of those!
[16:16:44] <hazzy-lab> were the silly progress bar is not :)
[16:17:21] <Lcvette[m]> hahahaha
[16:17:31] <Lcvette[m]> exactly
[16:18:38] <hazzy-lab> We had a baby tornado here the other day, blew the front door in and the bathroom windows out: https://i.imgur.com
[16:18:39] <hazzy-lab> xD
[16:19:15] <hazzy-lab> Everything in that bathroom when outside, soap, shampoo ..
[16:20:18] <hazzy-lab> Did not loose power though, which we usualy use at the drop of a hat
[16:21:15] <Lcvette[m]> holycrap
[16:21:17] <Lcvette[m]> thats scary
[16:21:51] <Lcvette[m]> my wife is in the air right now heading your way from Kansas city
[16:22:00] <Lcvette[m]> has a short layover in ATL
[16:22:09] <Lcvette[m]> before coming home to wilmington
[16:22:20] -HaikuBot[m]:#hazzy- my wife is in the
[16:22:20] -HaikuBot[m]:#hazzy- air right now heading your way
[16:22:21] -HaikuBot[m]:#hazzy- from Kansas city
[16:22:36] <Lcvette[m]> if this storm doesn't subside im gonna tell her to change her flight
[16:23:05] <hazzy-lab> Yeah, the ATL airport is not somplace you whant to have to spend the night
[16:23:23] -HaikuBot[m]:#hazzy- Yeah, the ATL airport
[16:23:24] -HaikuBot[m]:#hazzy- is not somplace you whant to
[16:23:24] -HaikuBot[m]:#hazzy- have to spend the night
[16:23:28] <hazzy-lab> LOLOLO
[16:23:40] <Lcvette[m]> hahahha
[16:23:41] <hazzy-lab> We are poets
[16:23:49] <Lcvette[m]> indeed
[16:24:46] * hazzy-lab tries to get jog buttons working
[16:25:19] <Lcvette[m]> im doing some minor cam on my probe
[16:25:39] <Lcvette[m]> for the new dc jack plugs that just arrived
[16:25:43] <hazzy-lab> nice!
[16:25:45] <Lcvette[m]> about to go machine the probe body
[16:25:57] <Lcvette[m]> Lcvette is nervous he's gonna ruin the new probe before he can tyest it out..lol
[16:26:25] <hazzy-lab> hehe
[16:26:38] <hazzy-lab> I looked at a few of your youtube vids last night, thats a sweet shop space you have!
[16:27:58] <Lcvette[m]> thanks
[16:28:06] <Lcvette[m]> its my garage
[16:28:13] <Lcvette[m]> i designed and built my house
[16:29:29] <hazzy-lab> is it an attached garage?
[16:29:34] * Lcvette[m] posted a file: Autopia Plan - Rev. 4-10-13 Arch D.pdf (910KB) < https://matrix.org >
[16:30:09] <Lcvette[m]> yup
[16:30:17] <Lcvette[m]> designed it that way so i could have my shop rolled in to my mortgage
[16:30:20] <Lcvette[m]> :)\
[16:30:24] -HaikuBot[m]:#hazzy- designed it that way
[16:30:25] -HaikuBot[m]:#hazzy- so i could have my shop rolled
[16:30:25] -HaikuBot[m]:#hazzy- in to my mortgage
[16:30:46] <hazzy-lab> That floor plan looks great!
[16:31:17] <Lcvette[m]> my wife and I like it
[16:31:25] <Lcvette[m]> good compromise
[16:31:43] <Lcvette[m]> plenty of shop space for me
[16:31:47] <hazzy-lab> Even a bathroom in the shop!
[16:31:53] <Lcvette[m]> of course
[16:32:01] <Lcvette[m]> shop pot
[16:32:19] <hazzy-lab> Does the stair from the shop go up or down?
[16:32:22] <Lcvette[m]> also have a laundry sink
[16:32:31] <Lcvette[m]> up
[16:32:43] <Lcvette[m]> to a mother in law apartment on the second floor
[16:32:50] <Lcvette[m]> completely seperate
[16:32:57] <Lcvette[m]> own entrance
[16:33:00] <hazzy-lab> Very nice!
[16:33:07] <Lcvette[m]> thought of everything
[16:33:08] <Lcvette[m]> lol
[16:33:16] <hazzy-lab> Also could be used as an office down the read
[16:33:26] <hazzy-lab> road
[16:33:28] <Lcvette[m]> yup
[16:34:02] <Lcvette[m]> your into cars?
[16:34:03] <hazzy-lab> Man, I am going to stach those plans away for safe keeping
[16:34:12] <Lcvette[m]> i saw you mentioning engines
[16:34:35] <Lcvette[m]> help yourself
[16:34:37] <Lcvette[m]> opensource
[16:34:47] <Lcvette[m]> if you are ever interested let me know I also have the truss and foundation plans
[16:34:49] <hazzy-lab> GPL house? xD
[16:35:23] <Lcvette[m]> I built on a $38k 1/2 acre lot and total cost was $241
[16:35:57] <hazzy-lab> That is very good for what you got out of it!
[16:36:37] <Lcvette[m]> with the upstairs apartment it is 3300sqft
[16:36:49] <Lcvette[m]> plus ~1450sqft shop
[16:37:03] <Lcvette[m]> vaulted shop ceiling for lift
[16:38:28] <Lcvette[m]> it made sense
[16:38:57] <Lcvette[m]> i was leasing a $1400/mo 2500sqft shop for my business before this
[16:39:09] <Lcvette[m]> and we were renting a $1500/mo house
[16:39:17] <Lcvette[m]> now we just have a $1500/mo mortgage
[16:39:22] <Lcvette[m]> lol
[16:39:27] <Lcvette[m]> no brainer
[16:39:37] <Lcvette[m]> and my commute is very short
[16:40:30] <hazzy-lab> and the morgage gose to paying off the house, not down the drain !
[16:41:00] <hazzy-lab> This is all ive got: https://i.imgur.com
[16:41:06] <Lcvette[m]> exactly
[16:41:26] <Lcvette[m]> long term investment and interest is tax deductible
[16:42:16] <hazzy-lab> This is better: https://i.imgur.com
[16:43:39] <Lcvette[m]> I LOVE it!
[16:43:54] <Lcvette[m]> reminds me of my old place
[16:43:58] <Lcvette[m]> i have many of the same tools
[16:44:14] <Lcvette[m]> economical maker
[16:45:26] <Lcvette[m]> is that a Corvair?
[16:46:42] <hazzy-lab> Yep!
[16:46:51] <hazzy-lab> '64 Monza
[16:47:07] <Lcvette[m]> nice!
[16:47:12] <hazzy-lab> Its fun!
[16:47:30] <hazzy-lab> I saved it from the crusher :)
[16:48:25] <Lcvette[m]> we had one when i was younger briefly, my dad bought it from a friend that was moving overseas
[16:49:44] <Lcvette[m]> i was probably 6 or 7
[16:49:58] <Lcvette[m]> used to work on it with my dad
[16:52:43] <hazzy-lab> don't see many of them around, but it seems like just about everyone knows what they are and has some story about them, which is interesting
[16:53:15] <hazzy-lab> I guess the whole Nader ordeal made put them in the spot light
[16:53:31] <Lcvette[m]> yeah they were unique cars
[16:53:48] <Lcvette[m]> in high school a good friend of mine used to race one
[16:54:11] <Lcvette[m]> this was back in the late 80's early 90's when the 5.0 craze was happening
[16:54:13] -HaikuBot[m]:#hazzy- this was back in the
[16:54:14] -HaikuBot[m]:#hazzy- late 80's early 90's when the
[16:54:14] -HaikuBot[m]:#hazzy- 5.0 craze was happening
[16:55:19] <Lcvette[m]> he had turbocharged his
[16:55:27] <Lcvette[m]> ported the heads
[16:55:33] <Lcvette[m]> was running webber carbs
[16:55:49] <Lcvette[m]> it was pretty impressive
[16:55:58] <Lcvette[m]> he used to spank the mustangs
[16:59:21] <hazzy-lab> Haha, they can do pretty well, especiay with a turbo
[16:59:46] <hazzy-lab> and they don't weigh anything and handle very well, with helps
[16:59:54] <Lcvette[m]> yeah
[17:00:01] <Lcvette[m]> that set me on the path of turbocharging
[17:00:11] <Lcvette[m]> well forced induction
[17:00:36] <Lcvette[m]> my dad was big into corvettes in the 60's so we went heavy into vettes
[17:00:46] <Lcvette[m]> and drag racing
[17:01:35] <hazzy-lab> I saw you have some toys in your garage :)
[17:02:05] <Lcvette[m]> and back in 98 I met Greg Caroll at his facility from Caroll Supercharging, at the time he was the man for Corvette forced induction
[17:02:21] <Lcvette[m]> I was already hot and heavy into cnc at school
[17:02:34] <Lcvette[m]> and was there for design and manufacturing
[17:02:56] <Lcvette[m]> but that reinforced my passion for it.
[17:03:26] <Lcvette[m]> but when i graduated i took a job in architectural design
[17:03:57] <Lcvette[m]> then migrated into building for more money
[17:04:01] <Lcvette[m]> then the downturn happened
[17:04:16] <Lcvette[m]> and i decided to go back to what i wanted in the first place
[17:04:17] <Lcvette[m]> cnc and cars
[17:04:19] <Lcvette[m]> lol
[17:12:31] <hazzy-lab> That is very interesting. My father is an architect/civil engineer and owns a construction cunsulting firm, he was hit hard by the downturn too, still has not recovered. But he was too old to realy feel up to switching grears
[17:14:39] <hazzy-lab> that's neat that you studied manufacturing and then went into architectural design
[17:14:57] <hazzy-lab> DOn't see that hapen much, in either direction
[17:15:32] <hazzy-lab> Hurray! got jogging wortking
[17:15:39] <Lcvette[m]> well, I knew the housing market was a goner
[17:15:47] <Lcvette[m]> outstanding!
[17:16:57] <Lcvette[m]> I was very fortunate, i came just late enough as a builder to not have many specs up, i had some property but that didn't hurt me as i had purchased it earlier at much better prices
[17:17:41] <Lcvette[m]> i was able to sell my lots at a profit still before the end and was able to move my specs except 1
[17:18:10] <hazzy-lab> Sounds like you got out just in time!
[17:18:20] <Lcvette[m]> the one i didn't sell before the end hit i kept for 4 years and rented out until it finally sold
[17:18:29] <Lcvette[m]> by the skin of my teethj
[17:18:59] <Lcvette[m]> i had 3 good friends from school who were very succesful a few years prior to that who lost everything
[17:19:21] <Lcvette[m]> they were multimillionaires and within weeks were penniless
[17:20:00] <Lcvette[m]> multiple subdivisions under constructions
[17:20:10] <Lcvette[m]> in raleigh and charlotte
[17:20:16] <Lcvette[m]> it was a mess
[17:20:31] <Lcvette[m]> i was doing big custom snowflakes here in wilmington
[17:20:37] <Lcvette[m]> not track homes
[17:20:40] <Lcvette[m]> only thing that saved me
[17:22:26] <hazzy-lab> That is terrible. It was amazing how fast the bubble poped very little warning
[17:22:57] <hazzy-lab> Glad you were able to avoid lossing too much
[17:26:15] <Lcvette[m]> me too
[17:26:18] <Lcvette[m]> im not complaining
[17:27:59] <Lcvette[m]> ive had a very interesting life and met many interesting people along the way, ive been extremely fortunate in timing..lol it seems opportunities arise and i have a unique eye for seeing them and grabbing a hold.
[17:30:32] <Lcvette[m]> i was doing green custom homes and joined with Anchorage builders because they liked my approach, they had a project idea and it landed me in a national magazine article for the world first zero net energy designed home which was something i had been designing for a while, was very cool
[17:30:59] <Lcvette[m]> https://www.ideal-living.com
[17:33:54] <Lcvette[m]> that was the last project I finished before the bottom fell out
[17:34:43] <Lcvette[m]> it was a blessing too, because had i not been working on it i would have been building other houses
[17:35:56] <Lcvette[m]> from there i was recruited by National Speed, a small start up speed shop to be the president, that was a very fun job, i met some reall great guys who shared my drive and passion for cars and speed and business.
[17:39:05] <hazzy-lab> Man, that is awsome!
[17:39:31] <hazzy-lab> Your Chris Polanski? That name seems familiar ..
[17:39:40] <hazzy-lab> did you ever write for fine homebuilding?
[17:39:41] <Lcvette[m]> I made a name for myself there with some really cool builds in the beginning and we gained some notoriety on various forums and from there caught the eye of some big wigs who put us in touch with some high profile clients.
[17:41:28] <Lcvette[m]> I am Chris Polanski, but no I never wrote for fine home building
[17:41:36] <Lcvette[m]> http://www.superstreetonline.com
[17:46:25] <Lcvette[m]> we built this car, and it led to building this car
[17:46:26] <Lcvette[m]> https://www.prlog.org
[17:46:26] <hazzy-lab> That Z is a beauty!
[17:46:57] <Lcvette[m]> and when we built Eric Berry's camaro things went nuts
[17:47:33] <hazzy-lab> lol, 1200hp xD
[17:47:54] <Lcvette[m]> yeah
[17:47:59] <Lcvette[m]> it was nuts
[17:48:09] <Lcvette[m]> i personally flew out to Kansas Citty to deliver the car to Eric
[17:48:25] <Lcvette[m]> i got to meet the team
[17:48:32] <hazzy-lab> That is too cool
[17:48:34] <Lcvette[m]> was pretty amazing
[17:49:10] <Lcvette[m]> im not a small fella at 6'1" and 245lbs
[17:49:46] <Lcvette[m]> but lemme tell ya being amidst a NFL team standing around their "whips" lol i felt like tyrion lannister
[17:50:54] <hazzy-lab> hahaha
[17:52:05] <hazzy-lab> I'd have to be carefull in a group like that, they'd step on me and never even notice
[17:53:30] <Lcvette[m]> unfortunately our fame with those builds got to the ceo's head, and he over reached his grasp by starting up several new companies in rapid succession trying to ride the fame wave we had going
[17:55:27] <Lcvette[m]> and our other investors quickly got unsettled by the massive capital hemorrhaging that was occurring. all the while my company National SPeed was succesfully growing and on track to open franchise locations then other new startup were sucking our capital to do so dry and the project toppled
[17:55:43] <Lcvette[m]> ending in a very ugly lawsuit
[17:56:39] <Lcvette[m]> at which point the company was dissolved and we werelet go
[17:57:04] <Lcvette[m]> it reformed later but most of the original talent had already left including myself
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[17:57:22] <Lcvette[m]> and now im on my own with my own business
[17:57:50] <Lcvette[m]> which i started a year and a half ago full time
[17:58:17] <Lcvette[m]> on a bubble gum and bailing wire budget
[17:58:20] <Lcvette[m]> lol
[18:06:55] <hazzy-lab> But at least now you don't have to worry about other people making bad decisions!
[18:07:10] <Lcvette[m]> exactly
[18:07:18] <Lcvette[m]> i get to own those all by myself
[18:07:20] <Lcvette[m]> lol
[18:07:58] <Lcvette[m]> that situation terrified me
[18:08:02] <Lcvette[m]> and its why i refuse to go into debt
[18:08:16] <Lcvette[m]> and why i will not borrow money
[18:08:24] <Lcvette[m]> not even for buying machines
[18:08:46] <Lcvette[m]> i want to own everything free and clear at all times
[18:08:56] <Lcvette[m]> bubble proof myself
[18:08:59] <Lcvette[m]> lol
[18:09:20] <Lcvette[m]> takes longer to grow and is twice as friustrating
[18:09:29] <Lcvette[m]> but i sleep like a baby
[18:09:43] <Lcvette[m]> my overhead is nothing
[18:13:02] <hazzy-lab> That is the way to do it!
[18:13:20] <Lcvette[m]> it is for me
[18:15:14] <Lcvette[m]> for others i get why they go all out and buy millions of dollars in machinery, they are the drive and the clear uninhibited minds to do so
[18:15:23] <Lcvette[m]> im damaged..lol
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[20:15:15] <Lcvette[m]> success!
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[20:22:45] <hazzy-lab> Sweet!
[20:23:33] <hazzy-lab> Did you happen to take any pics of the internals of the probe while it was apart?
[20:25:25] <hazzy-lab> Just noticed the "floating" blast cabinet, I like that, easy to sweep up under
[20:25:25] <lcvette[m]2> I did not
[20:25:49] <lcvette[m]2> lol it's just sitting on some steel channel
[20:25:59] <lcvette[m]2> not a permanent home
[20:26:13] <lcvette[m]2> lol
[20:26:26] <hazzy-lab> hahaha, i was wondering
[20:26:42] <lcvette[m]2> didn't think to take internal pictures of the probe bit it is pretty generic
[20:26:43] <lcvette[m]2> balls and tripod
[20:27:30] <hazzy-lab> I was curious about that the set screws push on the center the probe
[20:27:36] <hazzy-lab> I assume that's what they are for
[20:28:21] <lcvette[m]2> the whole ball platter is floating
[20:28:43] <hazzy-lab> Ah, that is simple enough
[20:29:21] <lcvette[m]2> it's attached to another machined aluminum piece that has 4 flats at each 90
[20:29:52] <lcvette[m]2> for the set screws to bear (bare?) on
[20:30:37] <lcvette[m]2> a spring that pushes the tripod onto the balls also acts to help keep the ball platter down while adjusting the centering
[20:30:41] <hazzy-lab> and I guess the spring pushes the whole assy to the bottom
[20:30:50] <hazzy-lab> hah
[20:30:51] <lcvette[m]2> correct
[20:31:35] <lcvette[m]2> once the centering is tight the platter is secure
[20:31:57] <lcvette[m]2> not sure if it is the best method
[20:32:37] <hazzy-lab> I am not sure how other probs are adjusted, but that seems like a reasonable solution
[20:32:45] <lcvette[m]2> my wild horse probe has no lateral adjustments
[20:33:38] <lcvette[m]2> it uses silicone under the platter and three adjusting screws and you adjust the platter against the silicone to center the probe tip
[20:34:00] <lcvette[m]2> from the bottom
[20:34:13] <lcvette[m]2> like a hexapod
[20:34:20] <hazzy-lab> oh, just by copressing the silicone? That works too
[20:34:24] <hazzy-lab> the forces are low
[20:34:38] <lcvette[m]2> stetching it actually
[20:34:57] <lcvette[m]2> r
[20:34:57] <hazzy-lab> ah, ok
[20:35:39] <hazzy-lab> I just crahed my spellchecker lol, guess itcan't keep up with me :D
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[20:36:31] <lcvette[m]2> have not adjusted this one in yet so I'll have to reserve my judgement for which one is a bigger pain in the ass
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[20:36:32] <lcvette[m]2> lol
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[20:37:33] <lcvette[m]2> when I build my probe I am going to use the Blum design o think
[20:39:47] <hazzy-lab> That would be interesting! It seems like it would be more difficult to make ...
[20:40:24] <hazzy-lab> good, spell check is back, I won't look like as much of a fool :D
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[20:40:39] <lcvette[m]2> I think easier
[20:41:15] <hazzy-lab> Except for the light sensor thing
[20:41:38] <lcvette[m]2> that's easy
[20:41:51] <lcvette[m]2> it's just a simple pickup
[20:42:08] <lcvette[m]2> I have lots of them in stock
[20:42:16] <lcvette[m]2> 3wire
[20:44:21] <hazzy-lab> But you have to make sure that the pin that blocks the beam does not have any slop, and that the sensor has high enough resolution, but I guess most sensors these days would be more than accurate enough
[20:46:07] <hazzy-lab> I like the fact that it triggers symmetrically from all directions, unlike the renishaw designe
[20:46:14] <lcvette[m]2> Arduino Photo Interrupter Sensor, Speed Measuring / Infrared Detection for Motor Speed Detection or Pulse Counter https://www.amazon.com
[20:46:29] <lcvette[m]2> yeah
[20:46:39] <lcvette[m]2> more than accurate enough
[20:46:53] <hazzy-lab> I have one of those sitting right here!
[20:46:58] <lcvette[m]2> reamed holed woukd
[20:48:21] <lcvette[m]2> it's always going to be triggering pushing up so no play
[20:48:43] <lcvette[m]2> and spring pressure down means no slop
[20:49:14] <hazzy-lab> hmm, that design is starting to grow on me
[20:49:21] <lcvette[m]2> yeah
[20:49:59] <lcvette[m]2> the graph they have online comparing it to the tripod shows how bad the deviation is between the two when ptobing different angles
[20:50:05] <hazzy-lab> Also be easy to make simplified version for a Z-only tool probe ...
[20:50:09] <lcvette[m]2> the Blum design is superior
[20:50:20] <lcvette[m]2> yeah
[20:51:06] <hazzy-lab> Oh, that graph is convincing!
[20:51:19] * hazzy-lab is fully converted to the blum design
[20:52:18] <lcvette[m]2> hahaha
[20:52:29] <lcvette[m]2> me too
[20:53:14] <lcvette[m]2> we'll use that in the wireless design
[20:56:46] <Lcvette[m]> with the new pro0be screens
[20:56:56] <Lcvette[m]> then it will be the ultimate badassness
[20:57:08] <hazzy-lab> It sure will be!
[20:57:12] <hazzy-lab> this is exciting
[20:58:11] <hazzy-lab> Estoy muy Excitado
[20:58:15] <hazzy-lab> xD
[20:58:50] <Lcvette[m]> and a wireless tool setter
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[21:03:11] <hazzy-lab> interesting, serrations to keep the probe from rotating. I guess that is needed to ensure repeatability
[21:03:42] <Lcvette[m]> yeah
[21:04:03] <Lcvette[m]> and for alignment
[21:04:15] <Lcvette[m]> when seated it has to self align
[21:04:32] <Lcvette[m]> pretty slick
[21:05:12] <Lcvette[m]> Lcvette shops for face gears
[21:05:16] <hazzy-lab> it is!
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[21:09:41] <Lcvette[m]> NICE!
[21:10:46] <hazzy-lab> something at least
[21:11:13] <Lcvette[m]> ok back in a little while, wife jkust landed at the airport
[21:11:20] <Lcvette[m]> gotta go pick her up
[21:12:08] <hazzy-lab> cu
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[22:17:09] <Lcvette[m]> so is that screen from brenda?
[22:56:19] <hazzy-lab> the jogging one I posted above?
[22:57:31] <hazzy-lab> No, that does not use any images, it is done entirely with code
[22:58:12] <hazzy-lab> I am just using it to test stuff, but the layout is kinda based on the original version of hazzy
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[22:59:58] <hazzy1[m]> LOL, I just sent NickServ a picture by accident
[23:01:45] <hazzy-lab> Lcvette: This is more than a little creepy, instagram just suggested I follow you
[23:02:11] <Roguish> hazzy: you got vismach working !!!
[23:02:26] <Roguish> vismach is great.
[23:02:31] <hazzy-lab> Roguish: Yes, it is!
[23:02:43] <hazzy-lab> That was a year ago, I think
[23:02:49] <hazzy-lab> maybe longer!
[23:03:17] <Roguish> i have my BP series II running (somewhere.)
[23:04:08] <hazzy-lab> in vismach? Nice!
[23:05:31] <Roguish> yup
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[23:12:57] <Lcvette_1> I'm blowing up on Instagram
[23:13:14] <Lcvette_1> I'm mad popular
[23:13:17] <Lcvette_1> ll
[23:13:20] <Lcvette_1> lol
[23:13:39] <hazzy-lab> I guess it was just coincidence then
[23:13:45] <hazzy-lab> thats great!
[23:13:59] <hazzy-lab> Nice page
[23:14:07] <Lcvette_1> i gained like 300 followers in the last couple weeks
[23:14:40] <hazzy-lab> You must be doing something right to trigger the bots :D
[23:15:07] <Lcvette_1> mist be my poetry
[23:15:12] <Lcvette_1> lol
[23:15:14] <hazzy-lab> haha
[23:17:36] <Lcvette_1> so that's just the code with no images
[23:17:43] <Lcvette_1> that's still pretty cool
[23:18:39] <hazzy-lab> It much better then using images, uses less resources and lets you do a LOG more
[23:19:40] <hazzy-lab> a image based UI feels dead because the buttons don't give feedback when you push etc
[23:19:47] <Lcvette_1> but i like the images to
[23:20:15] <Lcvette_1> or the icons
[23:20:16] <hazzy-lab> For certain things they are needed, like the icons inside the buttons
[23:20:24] <Lcvette_1> yeah
[23:20:27] -HaikuBot[m]:#hazzy- For certain things they
[23:20:28] -HaikuBot[m]:#hazzy- are needed, like the icons
[23:20:28] -HaikuBot[m]:#hazzy- inside the buttons
[23:20:31] <hazzy-lab> LOL
[23:20:44] <Lcvette_1> hahahaha
[23:20:51] <Lcvette_1> lookout Instagram
[23:20:57] <hazzy-lab> xD
[23:21:43] <Lcvette_1> can you use a button icon and button border
[23:21:54] <hazzy-lab> yes
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[23:22:36] <hazzy-lab> Also, code makes it very easy to completely change the look
[23:22:42] <hazzy-lab> that took like 30s
[23:23:00] <Lcvette_1> wow, that's awesome
[23:24:38] <Lcvette_1> so you really hate park pilot?
[23:24:45] <Lcvette_1> path
[23:27:53] <hazzy-lab> I have not used PP2.0, but v1.0 was very slow and buggy
[23:28:17] <hazzy-lab> It could have been because of the machine I was running it on, but all the LCNC uis ran fine ...
[23:28:31] <Lcvette_1> slow?
[23:28:46] <Lcvette_1> what does that mean?
[23:29:13] <hazzy-lab> Yes, like a 5s lag between typing a letter and it showing up in the MDI entry etc
[23:29:24] <Lcvette_1> oh geez
[23:29:34] <hazzy-lab> Or pushing a button and having it to anything
[23:29:38] <hazzy-lab> it was unusable
[23:31:13] <Lcvette_1> sounds like a disaster
[23:31:42] <Lcvette_1> i can't imagine it's like that normally
[23:32:13] <hazzy-lab> It was, but I know a lot of people use it and love it, and they can't be putting up with that
[23:32:26] <hazzy-lab> right
[23:33:29] <Lcvette_1> i watched some videos today on the probing routines and didn't notice anything like that while watching
[23:33:54] <Lcvette_1> i did hear pp2.0 was much improved to
[23:33:59] <hazzy-lab> I have access to the PPv2.0, I guess I should give it another try, but I;m not motivated too
[23:34:42] <Lcvette_1> but i also don't like the fact that its tormach hardware specific
[23:35:17] <hazzy-lab> yes, its a real pain to set up, and does not work with normal HAL MPGs and the like
[23:35:25] <Lcvette_1> is time for regular linuxcnc to have a good gui people can love and appreciate
[23:35:39] <hazzy-lab> Yes, its long overdue!
[23:35:59] <hazzy-lab> Hopefully this will be that, who knows ..
[23:37:17] <Lcvette_1> yeah, there are a few things i like from PP i think we should incorporate
[23:37:35] <Lcvette_1> they did a good job with the lathe interface
[23:38:00] <hazzy-lab> Lathe interface it great
[23:38:25] <Lcvette_1> easy to understand
[23:38:57] <hazzy-lab> I almost think that a PP clone would be better than Brender
[23:39:57] <Lcvette_1> i could get behind that
[23:40:36] <Lcvette_1> would be easy to work on given it has a template to follow
[23:40:38] -HaikuBot[m]:#hazzy- would be easy to
[23:40:39] -HaikuBot[m]:#hazzy- work on given it has a
[23:40:40] -HaikuBot[m]:#hazzy- template to follow
[23:41:06] <Lcvette_1> lol
[23:41:13] <hazzy-lab> LOL, right, and the tabbed layout makes it easy to extend
[23:42:59] <Lcvette_1> yeah they were smart about that
[23:43:17] <Lcvette_1> well... should that be the focus?
[23:43:30] <Lcvette_1> i can do graphic on that
[23:43:50] <hazzy-lab> Well, might should be
[23:43:59] <hazzy-lab> It does not preclude the brender
[23:44:24] <hazzy-lab> It would be easier to get something going
[23:44:30] <hazzy-lab> That was usable
[23:46:09] <Lcvette_1> yeah, there are some functions i would add to the probing to improve it
[23:46:28] <Lcvette_1> might make it different enough to be ok to use without issue
[23:46:43] <Lcvette_1> add a z touch first
[23:46:54] <Lcvette_1> like MSM has
[23:46:59] <hazzy-lab> yes!
[23:47:03] <Lcvette_1> or option for it
[23:47:21] <Lcvette_1> makes it a one and done
[23:47:43] <hazzy-lab> I don't know why that is not standard
[23:48:03] <Lcvette_1> seems like PP does it better in some ways and msm does it better in others, i figure blend the best of both
[23:48:21] <Lcvette_1> for the new hotmess
[23:49:26] <Lcvette_1> can handle graphics for tooling and all that, hell have most of that done already
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[23:49:38] <Lcvette_1> i have lathe chicks models to
[23:49:56] <hazzy-lab> I want to see those! xD
[23:50:44] <hazzy-lab> model lathe chicks? probably pretty hot
[23:51:02] <Lcvette_1> I'll dust them off and clean them up and pay something like pp has tomorrow
[23:51:12] <Lcvette_1> post*
[23:51:20] <Lcvette_1> hahaha
[23:51:22] <hazzy-lab> Great
[23:51:54] <Lcvette_1> i don't use inkscape
[23:52:07] <Lcvette_1> but i guess i can learn for the icons
[23:52:45] <hazzy-lab> Do you use something else, or just have not done vector graphics?
[23:53:21] <Lcvette_1> no never
[23:53:42] <Lcvette_1> solidworks
[23:54:01] <Lcvette_1> guess that's vector
[23:54:40] <Lcvette_1> but I'm sure inkscape would be easier
[23:54:48] <Lcvette_1> o once o learned it
[23:54:49] <hazzy-lab> inkscape it like adobe illustrator
[23:55:32] <Lcvette_1> lol.. like comparing two things i don't know about
[23:55:45] <Lcvette_1> but I'll learn
[23:55:56] <hazzy-lab> hahaha, sorry :D
[23:56:02] <Lcvette_1> can't be too hard right?
[23:56:16] <Lcvette_1> or is it?
[23:56:34] <Lcvette_1> probably some YouTube tutorials
[23:56:44] <hazzy-lab> No, its not hard, but its more of an art than a skill
[23:56:58] <hazzy-lab> I am terrible at it !
[23:57:16] <hazzy-lab> Very different from CAD
[23:57:38] <hazzy-lab> yes, there are loads of good tutorials out there
[23:59:17] <Lcvette_1> will let's do this,
[23:59:39] <Lcvette_1> can we pick like one small section from PP
[23:59:58] <Lcvette_1> and work together to try and build it?