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[00:04:51] <hazzy-lab> [QtPyVCP.utilities.prefs][ERROR] "[]" for option [STATUS] RECENT_FILES is not a valid list, using default value of "[]" (prefs.py:135)
[00:04:58] <hazzy-lab> WTF?
[00:04:59] <hazzy-lab> lol
[00:09:12] <TurBoss> ???
[00:15:37] <Lcvette[m]> What's that?
[00:16:57] <hazzy-lab> A meaningless error message that somebody wrote, couldn't possibly have been me, no I'd never do something like that, ever
[00:16:59] <hazzy-lab> lol
[00:18:28] <Lcvette[m]> I don't understand
[00:18:36] <Lcvette[m]> shocker I know
[00:19:46] <hazzy-lab> it says a list is not a valid list so it is using a list instead, lol
[00:22:40] <Lcvette[m]> turboss, can i post that little movie on the forum?
[00:22:47] <TurBoss> sure
[00:22:56] <Lcvette[m]> sweet!!
[00:22:56] <TurBoss> but is just draft
[00:25:06] <TurBoss> I can't figure hot to widgetlify the qtquick thing
[00:25:33] <Lcvette[m]> no?
[00:26:09] <Lcvette[m]> sudo apt get make widget-thingy-do-it-now-mofo
[00:26:17] <TurBoss> trying...
[00:27:18] <TurBoss> http://doc.qt.io
[00:33:13] <hazzy-lab> Lcvette[m]: I can't for the life of my figure out how to get the images to show :(
[00:33:50] <Lcvette[m]> :(
[00:34:00] <TurBoss> https://www.ics.com
[00:34:16] <Lcvette[m]> ime either
[00:34:17] <Lcvette[m]> me
[00:34:46] <TurBoss> then helpme with the qML thingie
[00:34:54] <TurBoss> lol
[00:35:10] <hazzy-lab> lol
[00:35:49] <hazzy-lab> TurBoss: https://github.com
[00:36:12] <hazzy-lab> Port that back LinuxCNC?
[00:36:19] <hazzy-lab> back to*
[00:36:22] <TurBoss> hmmm
[00:36:51] <Lcvette[m]> couple things
[00:37:07] <Lcvette[m]> if the wheel turns, will the numbers be upside down?
[00:37:16] <hazzy-lab> No
[00:37:28] <hazzy-lab> the labels will not rotate
[00:37:31] <hazzy-lab> just move
[00:38:41] <TurBoss> could
[00:39:06] <Lcvette[m]> may be easier to write a subroutine to shuffle numbers from box to box
[00:39:19] <hazzy-lab> that would be easy
[00:39:35] <hazzy-lab> we would not want to do that
[00:39:35] <Lcvette[m]> asnd give the appearance of movement
[00:39:43] <hazzy-lab> we have to show off our code-fu
[00:39:46] <hazzy-lab> lol
[00:39:46] <Lcvette[m]> lol
[00:40:00] <TurBoss> kcj then what do you think about use QML?
[00:40:19] <TurBoss> the machinekit is c++ thing
[00:40:56] <hazzy-lab> TurBoss: I think it might not be best for a desktop app, for touchscreens and phones it is great
[00:41:23] <TurBoss> then continue quth qtwidgets?
[00:41:25] <hazzy-lab> But I have read that it can be a pain to get working right on desktop, don't know how true that is though
[00:41:32] <hazzy-lab> it has cone a long ways
[00:41:44] <hazzy-lab> I guess so
[00:41:48] <hazzy-lab> what do you think?
[00:42:01] <TurBoss> hmmmmmmm
[00:42:31] <TurBoss> we allready have a workflow for qtwidgets...
[00:42:43] <hazzy-m> PC crashed 😐
[00:42:55] <TurBoss> throw it away
[00:42:59] <TurBoss> lol
[00:43:02] <hazzy-m> qML would be cool
[00:43:17] <hazzy-m> But seems not needed
[00:43:33] <Lcvette[m]> oh no which one?
[00:43:37] <hazzy-m> I am about to throw it away lol
[00:43:54] <hazzy-m> The new one
[00:43:57] <Lcvette[m]> ah
[00:44:08] <TurBoss> memtest
[00:44:25] <hazzy-m> Good idea!
[00:45:08] <Lcvette[m]> so the numbers will remain upright and readable?
[00:45:44] <Lcvette[m]> your statement was confusing
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[00:50:42] * TurBoss uploaded a video: Peek 05-08-2018 06-50.webm (331KB) < https://matrix.org >
[00:51:06] <TurBoss> hmmm
[00:52:16] <Lcvette[m]> Ok
[00:52:18] <Lcvette[m]> Good
[00:52:21] <TurBoss> no
[00:52:23] <TurBoss> w8
[00:52:34] <Lcvette[m]> Oh
[00:52:43] <TurBoss> hazzy qtdesigner has a qtquickwidget thing
[00:53:43] <Lcvette[m]> That's good news
[00:53:58] <TurBoss> not sure
[00:56:06] <Lcvette[m]> Hazzy, can a normal QPushButton, QLabel, QLineEdit etc made in normal qt designer be "promoted" to the fancy lcnc buttons on the upgraded qtdesigner?
[00:57:41] <hazzy-m> Yes
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[00:57:59] <hazzy-m> You can do it in designer, by using the promote feature
[00:58:17] <hazzy-m> it is also easy to do by hand via editing the UI file
[00:58:46] <hazzy-m> that is how I changd the plain buttons into SubCallButtons for the probe
[00:59:25] <Lcvette[m]> Ok
[00:59:26] <hazzy-m> The problem is you loose the advantage of being able to set the custom properties
[00:59:47] <Lcvette[m]> Will that's not too bad then I guess
[00:59:48] <Lcvette[m]> I can just continue on in the regular old qtdesigner
[00:59:52] <Lcvette[m]> Oh
[01:00:10] <hazzy-m> One work around would be to roughly lay out the LCNC buttons and then move to the smile designer and do the final layout ...
[01:00:33] <hazzy-m> I think that might work too
[01:01:06] <Lcvette[m]> They show up in the smiley designer?
[01:01:30] <Lcvette[m]> I guess they do if you say you changed them already. Lol
[01:01:36] <hazzy-m> Once you add them in the "terminal" designer they should show up in the smilye designer
[01:01:37] <Lcvette[m]> I didn't even notice
[01:01:45] <Lcvette[m]> Ok
[01:02:57] <Lcvette[m]> I don't see there is a forum for this type thing?
[01:03:07] <hazzy-lab> there is
[01:03:09] <hazzy-lab> sek
[01:03:26] <hazzy-lab> https://forum.qt.io
[01:04:51] <hazzy-lab> But a doubt they can help, this is fairly unique what we are doing ..
[01:05:11] <Lcvette[m]> That's what I was getting at
[01:05:28] <Lcvette[m]> It's fancy stuff
[01:05:35] <hazzy-lab> yes, very
[01:05:36] <hazzy-lab> lol
[01:05:44] <Lcvette[m]> Lol
[01:05:49] <hazzy-lab> maybe stupid too
[01:05:56] <Lcvette[m]> Jedi Master fu
[01:07:38] <Lcvette[m]> I'm now going through my Netflix and Amazon prime subscription to "favorite" all the cool kids coding movies
[01:07:53] <Lcvette[m]> For Fu inspiration
[01:07:57] <hazzy-lab> hahaha
[01:08:19] <Lcvette[m]> And of course some Kung Fu 🐼🐼 🐼
[01:08:48] <Lcvette[m]> Because...well... 🐼🐼 🐼🐼 🐼🐼 🐼
[01:08:59] <Lcvette[m]> + fu
[01:09:06] <hazzy-lab> lol
[01:09:08] <Lcvette[m]> = awesomeness
[01:11:41] <hazzy-lab> Ok, I have to be up early today, I better get some sleep ...
[01:11:51] <Lcvette[m]> Ok
[01:11:57] <Lcvette[m]> Night man!!
[01:12:06] <hazzy-lab> sorry for the frustration with the images :(
[01:12:19] <hazzy-lab> Night!
[01:12:22] <Lcvette[m]> No worries
[01:12:40] <Lcvette[m]> There's a work around
[01:12:45] <hazzy-lab> Oh, did you try the MDI entry box?
[01:13:13] * TurBoss uploaded an image: Captura de pantalla de 2018-08-05 07-12-41.png (226KB) < https://matrix.org >
[01:13:17] <Lcvette[m]> Where?
[01:13:17] <TurBoss> hurray
[01:13:42] <hazzy-lab> whoa!!!!!
[01:13:50] <hazzy-lab> how did you do that??
[01:13:58] <TurBoss> QQuickWidget
[01:14:00] <TurBoss> in designer
[01:14:04] <hazzy-lab> sweet!
[01:14:10] <TurBoss> set the source property to the qml
[01:14:21] <Lcvette[m]> TurBoss still has no font
[01:14:22] <hazzy-lab> so we can mix QML and qt Widgets?
[01:14:33] <hazzy-lab> oh!
[01:14:43] <TurBoss> yes! and no
[01:14:45] <TurBoss> yes mix
[01:14:50] <TurBoss> no font! qhy=
[01:16:03] <Lcvette[m]> Why you have no bebakai font
[01:16:15] <TurBoss> no idea
[01:17:21] <hazzy-lab> lol
[01:17:37] <hazzy-lab> I trued it and got two window and crashed designer xD
[01:17:47] <hazzy-lab> I guess the QML had a window in it already
[01:18:37] <hazzy-lab> Lcvette[m]: That is a tinute problem, can't you celebrate the few victories we have??
[01:18:38] <hazzy-lab> lol
[01:18:43] <TurBoss> yes change it to Rectangle
[01:18:48] <hazzy-lab> ok
[01:18:49] <hazzy-lab> thank
[01:18:52] <hazzy-lab> s
[01:19:13] <Lcvette[m]> Hurray!!!
[01:19:26] <hazzy-lab> haha
[01:19:34] <Lcvette[m]> 😋
[01:20:00] <Lcvette[m]> I'm very excited
[01:20:19] <Lcvette[m]> I don't understand what you are talking about though
[01:20:23] <Lcvette[m]> Lol
[01:22:04] <Lcvette[m]> \o/ whoop whoop \o/ qml in the mutha effin house!!
[01:22:11] <TurBoss> lol
[01:22:13] <hazzy-lab> lol
[01:22:25] <TurBoss> qml is like qtwidgets but more flexible
[01:22:42] * hazzy-lab goes to sleep a happy man
[01:22:44] <hazzy-lab> :D
[01:22:50] <Lcvette[m]> Lol
[01:22:50] <TurBoss> n8
[01:22:56] <Lcvette[m]> Night man!
[01:23:06] <hazzy-lab> night
[01:24:55] <TurBoss> night
[01:25:05] <Lcvette[m]> Night
[01:32:49] <Lcvette[m]> Super cool
[01:32:50] <Lcvette[m]> Job well done TurBoss!!
[01:32:51] <Lcvette[m]> Awesome work!!
[01:32:54] <TurBoss> what?
[01:33:39] <Lcvette[m]> The spinny carousel
[01:33:46] <TurBoss> ah
[01:33:53] <TurBoss> ty
[01:33:56] <TurBoss> working on it
[01:48:19] <TurBoss> Lcvette: tools start from 1 or 0?
[01:48:35] <TurBoss> easiest to ask than search
[01:48:37] <TurBoss> :P
[01:56:28] <Lcvette[m]> 1
[01:56:45] <Lcvette[m]> 1-12
[01:57:00] <Lcvette[m]> Pockets 1-12
[02:15:12] <TurBoss> ok
[07:04:08] <TurBoss> ding ding ding is morning O'clock
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[10:13:49] <hazzy-lab> morning
[10:54:38] <hazzy-lab> Rectangle {
[10:54:38] <hazzy-lab> title: qsTr("Dyn ATC")
[10:54:38] <hazzy-lab> color: "whitesmoke"
[10:54:46] <hazzy-lab> SMOK, lol
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[11:16:55] <Erikcnc> Hello
[11:25:19] <hazzy-dev> Erikcnc: Hello
[11:26:03] <hazzy-dev> I have to run, I'll be back in a few hours
[11:27:25] <Erikcnc> Oké thats fine.
[11:28:31] <Erikcnc> I got linuxcnc stretch running from usb....much much lower than before....and for my suprice...touch screen works just right away!!
[11:32:48] <hazzy-m> Hurray! Lcvette told you it would :)
[11:37:55] <Lcvette[m]> hurray?
[11:37:56] <Lcvette[m]> !!
[11:37:57] <Lcvette[m]> lol
[11:49:26] <Erikcnc> Haha yeah
[11:53:05] <Erikcnc> Is your GUI avalible?
[11:53:22] <Erikcnc> Or still in development? Haha
[12:22:34] <Erikcnc> I still got this following error thoug
[12:24:15] <Lcvette[m]> Still in development
[12:27:21] <Lcvette[m]> What's your new latency?
[12:29:09] <Erikcnc> About 3500...
[12:29:34] <Lcvette[m]> that's really low
[12:29:40] <Erikcnc> Yeah...
[12:29:44] <Lcvette[m]> you didn't put that in did you?
[12:29:48] <Erikcnc> Running from usb
[12:30:29] <Lcvette[m]> you need to give some cushion
[12:30:31] <Erikcnc> Well i did. To test of out. Tis now as i speak(typ) 4950
[12:30:52] <Lcvette[m]> yeah you need to load the system down during the test
[12:31:04] <Lcvette[m]> open ghl gears
[12:31:23] <Lcvette[m]> glx gears
[12:31:36] <Lcvette[m]> couple windows, YouTube etc
[12:31:52] <Erikcnc> O that...just fool around..do stuff
[12:32:04] <Lcvette[m]> bog it down worst case scenario
[12:32:22] <Erikcnc> Like torture the pc
[12:32:33] <Lcvette[m]> yeah we want to know the worst it will see them as a little cushion on top of that
[12:32:46] <Lcvette[m]> then add*
[12:32:54] <Lcvette[m]> exactly
[12:33:16] <Lcvette[m]> setting to low a number is bad
[12:33:30] <Lcvette[m]> setting to high leaves performance on the table
[12:33:31] <Erikcnc> Oké i om just Let it run, eat my dinner, do some internet and come back.
[12:33:45] <Lcvette[m]> yup
[12:33:55] <Lcvette[m]> move windows and
[12:34:00] <Lcvette[m]> open close programs
[12:39:37] <Lcvette[m]> when you say running from us, you mean run in place or sim mode?
[12:39:42] <Lcvette[m]> USB
[12:42:43] <Lcvette[m]> hazzy and TurBoss, when running gcode, and an M6 command comes up, would it be possible to flip to the ATC page to show the tool change happening on the screen?
[12:43:36] <TurBoss> posible but usefull?
[12:43:46] <TurBoss> well really ni idea if posible
[12:43:54] <Lcvette[m]> lol
[12:44:20] <Lcvette[m]> just cool to see the machine and graphic mimic each other
[12:53:04] <hazzy-m> Lcvette: how about being able to add a comment after the my command to switch to the ATC page? We do get a signal when a tool change is in process, so we could use that too ...
[12:53:46] <hazzy-m> So yes it is absolutely possible, and in fact very easy
[12:55:40] <Lcvette[m]> nice!!
[12:58:22] <Lcvette[m]> that's awesome
[13:00:21] <TurBoss> i still have to investigate how to code with python the qQuickControl thing
[13:00:30] <TurBoss> standalone works but embedded not yet
[13:00:36] <Lcvette[m]> ah
[13:01:03] <Lcvette[m]> so don't get excited yet
[13:01:09] <Lcvette[m]> gotcha
[13:01:09] <TurBoss> the carousel
[13:01:28] <Lcvette[m]> yes
[13:02:13] <TurBoss> hazzy have you tested the qml thinG?
[13:04:50] <TurBoss> lattest changes are on ppclone branch
[13:04:58] <TurBoss> :P
[13:05:11] <Lcvette[m]> yeah?
[13:05:12] <Lcvette[m]> pulling
[13:05:23] <TurBoss> but from my fork
[13:05:25] <TurBoss> my remote
[13:05:33] <TurBoss> and doesn't work
[13:05:42] <TurBoss> :P
[13:10:21] <Lcvette[m]> do i need to merge?
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[13:11:18] * Lcvette[m] uploaded an image: image.png (227KB) < https://matrix.org >
[13:14:51] <Erikcnc> Got latency 21198 now
[13:16:49] <Erikcnc> No better. No movemend, still following error and error finishing read! Iter=6
[13:18:11] <Lcvette[m]> what is your microstepping set at?
[13:18:42] <Erikcnc> 1600
[13:18:58] <Erikcnc> Dm566
[13:20:09] <Lcvette[m]> and the drive settings for those drives is correct?
[13:20:16] <Lcvette[m]> in he config?
[13:21:08] <Erikcnc> I got it from a list with allot of drivers
[13:23:54] * Lcvette[m] uploaded an image: image.png (117KB) < https://matrix.org >
[13:24:00] <Lcvette[m]> turboss
[13:25:59] <Lcvette[m]> do you have your wires connected correctly eric?
[13:26:02] <Lcvette[m]> erik
[13:26:47] <Lcvette[m]> you are not wired backwards are you?
[13:27:26] <Lcvette[m]> on your or have your dignals backwards in the config?
[13:27:28] <Erikcnc> Got dir+ To dir+ and step+ To pul+ etc
[13:27:31] <Lcvette[m]> signals
[13:30:16] <Lcvette[m]> if the signals are backwards you could get a following error
[13:30:28] <Lcvette[m]> in the ini
[13:31:03] <Lcvette[m]> i thinik*
[13:33:44] <Erikcnc> Can i change that in the ini?
[13:34:07] <Lcvette[m]> send a copy of your ini again
[13:34:26] <TurBoss> sudo apt-get install python-pyqt5.qtquick
[13:34:28] <TurBoss> Lcvette:
[13:37:22] <Lcvette[m]> um... everything ius messed up now in the gui
[13:39:06] <Lcvette[m]> erik
[13:39:15] <Lcvette[m]> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org
[13:39:18] <hazzy-m> TurBoss: I'm out, I'll check when I get home in a few hours
[13:39:34] <TurBoss> ok np
[13:41:15] <Lcvette[m]> turboss how do i fix?
[13:41:28] <Lcvette[m]> i tried undo but it dod not fix it
[13:41:42] <TurBoss> hmmm
[13:41:59] <Erikcnc> Oké just a moment, sent the ini file soon
[13:42:00] <TurBoss> sorry im away sek
[13:42:03] <Lcvette[m]> i had conflicts when i merged and selected your files
[13:43:56] <TurBoss> hmmm
[13:44:06] <TurBoss> ill tell you the solutiin
[13:44:15] <TurBoss> latter
[13:44:25] <Lcvette[m]> ok
[13:44:54] <TurBoss> right click on the latest working commit and click reset local here or this commit
[13:45:24] <TurBoss> then try to run the app
[13:48:07] <Lcvette[m]> soft medium or hard?
[13:50:55] <Lcvette[m]> hurray
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[13:51:25] <Lcvette[m]> how come your version is so different turboss?
[13:51:39] <Lcvette[m]> shouldn't it be the sdame excepot the new changes?
[13:51:46] <Lcvette[m]> so when they mnerge only the new changes take effect?
[13:54:13] <TurBoss> normally to test other branches
[13:54:28] <TurBoss> i just commit what i have flying arround
[13:54:44] <TurBoss> then double click on the other branch
[13:54:57] <Lcvette[m]> oh, i am still getting familiar
[13:55:11] <TurBoss> then double click to ba k to your branch
[13:55:21] <tommylight> can i have the files so i can mess with plasma stuff if and when i manage to make some time for it ?
[13:59:29] <Erikcnc> What was that website again Lcvette?
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[14:04:03] * Lcvette[m] uploaded an image: image.png (16KB) < https://matrix.org >
[14:04:15] <Lcvette[m]> now i can't open the file in designer
[14:04:22] <Lcvette[m]> :(
[14:04:39] <Lcvette[m]> dpaste i think erik
[14:05:09] <erikcnc_> ah yes
[14:05:58] <Lcvette[m]> tommy, hazzy or turboos will have to tell you what to do there
[14:06:18] <Lcvette[m]> clearly im a lost cause and new to the gitkraken thing
[14:06:19] <Lcvette[m]> lol
[14:06:39] <erikcnc_> http://dpaste.com
[14:07:38] <erikcnc_> isn't there a whatsapp group of you guys?
[14:08:04] <TurBoss> sorry Lcvette I broke it XD
[14:16:17] <Lcvette[m]> so did we lose all the work?
[14:16:33] <Lcvette[m]> im a bit nautious right now
[14:16:42] <Lcvette[m]> nauscious
[14:19:23] <Lcvette[m]> erik, change your servo period to this 1000000
[14:19:24] <Lcvette[m]> lol
[14:19:30] <Lcvette[m]> in the ini
[14:19:35] <Lcvette[m]> then retest
[14:19:37] <Lcvette[m]> should be fixed
[14:21:28] * Lcvette[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org >
[14:22:54] <erikcnc_> oke retesting now
[14:23:18] <erikcnc_> yay
[14:23:35] <Lcvette[m]> waaaaa in-fu
[14:23:44] <Lcvette[m]> ini-fu
[14:24:17] <Lcvette[m]> lol
[14:24:32] <Lcvette[m]> hurray!
[14:24:35] <Lcvette[m]> no go forth and maketh chips
[14:24:36] <Lcvette[m]> now
[14:24:58] <erikcnc_> z axis is peck dillng now...lol
[14:25:05] <Lcvette[m]> 1000000 = 1 servo thread
[14:25:58] <erikcnc_> itsholdig nervous position.
[14:26:41] <hazzy-m> Erikcnc: you got movement?
[14:26:46] <hazzy-m> Hurray!!
[14:27:02] <erikcnc_> yes indeed.
[14:27:21] <erikcnc_> not perfect yet though
[14:27:32] <erikcnc_> its jilling
[14:27:57] <Lcvette[m]> you probably need to change your ferror
[14:28:09] <Lcvette[m]> its a bit high
[14:28:47] <hazzy-m> Erikcnc: most of us use matrix and the riot app to talk here, it is similar WhatsApp in some ways, allows directly sharing files and pictures etc.
[14:28:56] <Lcvette[m]> FERROR = 0.1
[14:28:56] <Lcvette[m]> MIN_FERROR = 0.01
[14:29:05] <tommylight> eric, go to forum and search for "servo tuning detailed howto"
[14:29:26] <tommylight> matrix ? is neo there ?
[14:30:09] <erikcnc_> ahah
[14:30:47] <erikcnc_> whatsapp has webwhatsapp....for in the browser
[14:31:08] <Lcvette[m]> and from there you just need to tweak your other settings for your systemlike hazzy said best to o to the forum and find peeps with the same steppers/drives
[14:31:59] <erikcnc_> so i change ferror to 0.1 and the min 0.01?
[14:32:00] <Lcvette[m]> fins the best acceleration settings, and drive settings
[14:32:16] <Lcvette[m]> thats what i run but i have servos
[14:32:31] <tommylight> and inches
[14:32:51] <Lcvette[m]> he is metric
[14:33:14] <Lcvette[m]> mine was set there in metric as well
[14:33:31] <Lcvette[m]> but i run servos
[14:33:32] <Lcvette[m]> so
[14:33:33] <Lcvette[m]> not sure if steppers are different/
[14:33:39] <tommylight> for metric it should be 1 and 0.1 i think
[14:33:52] <Lcvette[m]> being this is all in the stepgen i would think the same settings should be fine
[14:34:31] <Lcvette[m]> yeah?
[14:34:31] <Lcvette[m]> ok
[14:34:39] <Lcvette[m]> tommy probaboly knows better
[14:35:08] <erikcnc_> following error
[14:35:47] <Lcvette[m]> ok, so raise it up some
[14:35:48] <Lcvette[m]> like tommy suggested
[14:35:51] <tommylight> 10 and 1
[14:35:52] <Lcvette[m]> 1, .1
[14:36:00] <tommylight> just checked it
[14:36:21] <tommylight> ferror 10 min_ferror 1
[14:36:48] <Lcvette[m]> wow really?
[14:36:48] <Lcvette[m]> ok
[14:36:49] <Lcvette[m]> must be very different than servos
[14:36:58] <tommylight> i also have a config with ferror 1.27 and min_ferror 0.254
[14:37:28] <erikcnc_> wow
[14:37:38] <tommylight> first is for 7i76E and second for parallel port
[14:39:54] <erikcnc_> yeah im using the 7i76e
[14:40:17] <erikcnc_> i got I/0 workng though!! :D
[14:41:18] <Lcvette[m]> i fixed the kraken!!!!
[14:41:23] <Lcvette[m]> my fu is getting stronger
[14:41:29] <tommylight> lol
[14:41:36] <Lcvette[m]> everything is reverted and fixed and files are opening again
[14:41:45] <Lcvette[m]> than k GOODNESS!
[14:42:13] <Lcvette[m]> turboss, update your ppclone!
[14:42:33] <Lcvette[m]> :)
[14:42:50] <Lcvette[m]> tommylight, did you see what they were working on?
[14:43:11] <tommylight> not recently, like today
[14:43:26] <tommylight> tell me
[14:43:34] * Lcvette[m] uploaded a video: Peek 05-08-2018 05-28.webm (894KB) < https://matrix.org >
[14:43:39] <tommylight> what did i miss this time
[14:44:18] <tommylight> OOOHHHH YESSSSS do it do it baby
[14:44:20] <tommylight> nice
[14:44:26] <tommylight> damn that is noce
[14:44:28] <tommylight> nice
[14:44:37] <erikcnc_> nice!
[14:45:23] <Lcvette[m]> have you brain stormed any thoughts on the pockets and tooling situation?
[14:46:02] <erikcnc_> well..its seems ferror 10.0 and min-ferror 1.0 stays....but stil not smooth.
[14:46:10] <tommylight> was just researching that
[14:46:26] <tommylight> found some glade stuff that could be used
[14:47:09] <tommylight> i am sure you can get the tool number and pocket number from the tool table
[14:47:52] <tommylight> have to find a pin that reports what tool is in the spindle to report to the widget
[14:48:20] <Lcvette[m]> How do you run your ATC?
[14:48:25] <Lcvette[m]> You use remap?
[14:48:38] <tommylight> there is huge problem with the remap stuff that i try to avoid using it
[14:49:00] <Lcvette[m]> Oh?
[14:49:26] <tommylight> last january when i did the Elumatec retrofit, i did the remap and it would change the corelation between tool and pocket at random
[14:49:39] <Lcvette[m]> That's how I set mine up..... What's the issue?
[14:49:44] <tommylight> same thing this year on the Hurco
[14:50:16] <tommylight> i had to make the toll.tbl read only for any user except root so it would not change
[14:50:37] <Lcvette[m]> Oh
[14:51:01] <tommylight> at least now it stays put
[14:51:18] <Lcvette[m]> Could it be a setting to switch between the two types of ATC?
[14:51:34] <Lcvette[m]> Random and fixed pocket?
[14:52:20] <tommylight> might as well be
[14:52:24] <Lcvette[m]> I only briefly remember reading about that, but it jumps to mind from your description
[14:53:25] <tommylight> yeah now i recal reading about that and i know that is in the pncconfig
[14:53:40] <tommylight> but i never chose it there
[14:55:49] <Lcvette[m]> http://www.linuxcnc.org
[14:55:58] <erikcnc_> how do i solve that the stepper keeps going left and right when its not moveing?
[14:56:41] <Lcvette[m]> How are you doing it now Tommy?
[14:56:48] <Lcvette[m]> Hal ladder?
[14:57:40] <Lcvette[m]> I would think that's in the drive settings of the ini?
[14:57:45] <Lcvette[m]> Erik
[14:59:15] <tommylight> erik, can you explain that a bitt better
[15:00:19] <tommylight> LC i have it with remap and the tool.tbl file is read only
[15:00:58] <tommylight> <<<<<needs coffeine
[15:01:11] <tommylight> will be back
[15:02:03] <Lcvette[m]> k
[15:02:18] <Lcvette[m]> you said that, I missed it
[15:02:23] <Lcvette[m]> I need caffeine too
[15:02:26] <Lcvette[m]> lol
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[15:07:39] <erikcnc_> is there way to share video?
[15:09:07] <Lcvette[m]> If it's small
[15:09:26] <Lcvette[m]> Are you on matrix?
[15:09:50] <erikcnc_> no, don't know that
[15:10:22] <Lcvette[m]> Probably best to upload to YouTube
[15:14:51] <erikcnc_> drobbox?
[15:18:29] <Erikcnc> https://youtu.be
[15:27:28] <Lcvette[m]> That's weird
[15:27:53] <Lcvette[m]> Sure your drive settings are correct.?
[15:29:40] <erikcnc_> not enymore
[15:36:16] <Lcvette[m]> Maybe try lowering the P value in the ini
[15:36:36] <Lcvette[m]> Try half of what it is
[15:37:04] <Lcvette[m]> Or try 1000 and work your way up until it jitters
[15:43:49] <erikcnc_> perfecto!!!!!
[15:48:03] <erikcnc_> so....what does the p value?
[15:48:07] <Lcvette[m]> sweet
[15:48:38] <Lcvette[m]> you can go higher until it goes then set it at half that value
[15:48:45] -HaikuBot[m]:#hazzy- you can go higher
[15:48:46] -HaikuBot[m]:#hazzy- until it goes then set it
[15:48:47] -HaikuBot[m]:#hazzy- at half that value
[15:49:10] <Lcvette[m]> that's usually the best place for performance and smoothness
[15:49:49] <Lcvette[m]> goes=jitters
[15:51:32] <Lcvette[m]> so for example if it jitters at say 5000, you would set p at 2500
[15:58:49] <erikcnc_> okee...i changed the p from 10000 to 1000
[15:58:56] <erikcnc_> il try 5k
[16:08:42] <Erikcnc> https://youtu.be
[16:09:39] <Lcvette[m]> you should step up
[16:09:43] <Lcvette[m]> little at a time
[16:10:02] <Lcvette[m]> example try 2000, then 3000
[16:10:03] <Lcvette[m]> etc
[16:10:22] <Erikcnc> Well...higher got wors
[16:10:56] <Erikcnc> At 1250 following error
[16:11:18] <Lcvette[m]> that's how it wprks
[16:11:31] <Lcvette[m]> following error?
[16:11:55] <Lcvette[m]> but at 10,000 no following error?
[16:12:10] <Erikcnc> At 10k jiggling
[16:12:20] <Erikcnc> Allso at 5k
[16:18:50] <Lcvette[m]> no following error at 1000?
[16:20:07] <erikcnc_> no
[16:20:15] <Lcvette[m]> hmmm
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[16:22:28] <Lcvette[m]> I think hazzy said he ran at 1000
[16:22:58] <erikcnc_> ow yeh got the first followng error now at 1000
[16:23:11] <Lcvette[m]> ok
[16:23:25] <Lcvette[m]> and you set at 10 and 1?
[16:23:59] <Lcvette[m]> Ferrer and min_ferror
[16:24:04] <erikcnc_> yes
[16:24:11] <Lcvette[m]> ok
[16:24:16] <Lcvette[m]> hmmm
[16:25:24] <erikcnc_> im going to save the hal and ini....quiting for to day
[16:25:47] <Lcvette[m]> ask hazzy what his acceleration settings are maybe
[16:27:35] <Lcvette[m]> so you need to find the balance between following error and jitter
[16:27:56] <erikcnc_> yeah seems oke.
[16:28:19] <erikcnc_> for now, i'm going to bed. lol
[16:28:46] <Lcvette[m]> so if jitter at at 5000, work down 500 at a time until it stops
[16:28:51] <Lcvette[m]> right
[16:29:01] <Lcvette[m]> this is for when you test again
[16:29:07] * hazzy-lab is back
[16:29:13] <Lcvette[m]> so 4500, 4000, 3500 etc
[16:29:53] <hazzy-lab> erikcnc_: Here is the config for my machine: https://github.com
[16:30:09] <hazzy-lab> it is steppers with 5i25/7i76
[16:30:22] <hazzy-lab> so very similar to your setup
[16:30:41] <hazzy-lab> except you are using the ethernet card
[16:32:02] <erikcnc_> oke try one more time, before sleep.its 22:30 here
[16:35:11] <erikcnc_> still the axis turns back after moving (joging)
[16:38:59] <Lcvette[m]> very strange
[16:39:43] <hazzy-lab> erikcnc_: that has to do with the PID
[16:39:55] <hazzy-lab> I think D is too large
[16:40:05] <hazzy-lab> or P too small ...
[16:40:25] <Lcvette[m]> d should be 0
[16:41:18] <Lcvette[m]> I and D should be 0
[16:42:20] <hazzy-lab> yes
[16:43:07] <erikcnc_> they ar
[16:43:12] <erikcnc_> are*
[16:43:37] <erikcnc_> oke, to morrow nother day
[16:43:58] <Lcvette[m]> maybe try and make dirhold same as dirstep
[16:44:06] <Lcvette[m]> 5000 and 5000?
[16:45:24] <erikcnc_> i did
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[16:46:03] <Lcvette[m]> ok
[16:46:39] <Lcvette[m]> I'm out of ideas
[16:46:42] <Lcvette[m]> need some stepper people experience
[16:46:42] <Lcvette[m]> mine is all with servos
[16:51:36] <Erikcnc> What does your g0704 has?
[16:53:49] <Lcvette[m]> mach3
[16:54:16] <Lcvette[m]> it's been mach3 for 9 years
[16:55:00] <Lcvette[m]> the big machine is my first Linuxcnc Machine
[17:01:18] <Erikcnc> But...before i forget...thank you guys allot for the help and support!!
[17:01:40] <Lcvette[m]> sure
[17:01:46] <Lcvette[m]> no worries
[17:02:41] <Erikcnc> I will post the problem for the axis tuning back after jogging on the forum
[17:03:05] <Lcvette[m]> I think that would give a broader help platform
[17:03:16] <Lcvette[m]> probably a faster solution
[17:03:57] <Lcvette[m]> be sure to post your Hal and ini files for them also
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[17:15:43] <Lcvette[m]> tommylight: I know the pockets are assigned to numbered parameters in the var file
[17:16:54] <Lcvette[m]> And I correct tool number can be called using 5400 I think
[17:18:18] <Lcvette[m]> Current*
[17:18:48] <Lcvette[m]> Might have the number wrong, going from memory
[17:18:57] <tommylight> That is worth a try
[17:19:39] <Lcvette[m]> But I used it in the probing routines as a fail safe to ensure that probe was the tool in the spindle before probing could begin
[17:20:17] <Lcvette[m]> Which worked very well as Hazzy discovered...lol
[17:20:27] <hazzy-lab> hahaha
[17:20:43] <Lcvette[m]> Caused him a fit one day while you to get some coffee working
[17:21:15] <tommylight> have to work on some plasma stuff
[17:21:22] <Lcvette[m]> Trying*
[17:22:08] <hazzy-lab> I am the Guinea pig for the sub routines, but it is fair since you all are the Guinea pigs for most of the other stuff
[17:22:14] <hazzy-lab> lol
[17:22:22] <tommylight> need to make some pyvcp buttons to set some limits and cutting parameters
[17:22:38] <hazzy-lab> anybody seen Jack around?
[17:22:47] <tommylight> the ripper?
[17:22:48] * hazzy-lab goes to work on a virtual keyboard
[17:23:08] <hazzy-lab> lol
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[17:27:18] <Lcvette[m]> Nice!
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[18:11:24] <hazzy-lab> logs
[18:14:40] <Lcvette[m]> What's that?
[18:14:53] <TurBoss> yo
[18:15:08] <TurBoss> back
[18:15:11] <Lcvette[m]> Yo
[18:15:22] <Lcvette[m]> TurBoss I fixed the kraken!
[18:15:43] <TurBoss> great
[18:17:01] <TurBoss> cant look now but sure will check
[18:17:14] <TurBoss> sorry for the confusion that caused
[18:17:54] <Lcvette[m]> Is ok, but I can't see your cool work
[18:17:57] <Lcvette[m]> When you get back
[18:18:02] <Lcvette[m]> You sow me how
[18:18:02] <TurBoss> okey
[18:18:03] <Lcvette[m]> H
[18:18:03] <Lcvette[m]> Show
[18:18:05] <Lcvette[m]> XD
[18:18:06] <TurBoss> but stil not finished
[18:40:25] * hazzy-m uploaded a video: vkbd.mp4 (232KB) < https://matrix.org >
[18:47:28] <TurBoss> great!!!
[18:47:45] <hazzy-lab> it's a start!
[18:47:45] <Lcvette[m]> Awesome!!!
[19:15:59] <Lcvette[m]> Is a win!!
[19:16:34] <hazzy-lab> what is?
[19:17:54] <Lcvette[m]> The pop up calculator!!!!
[19:26:15] <hazzy-lab> oh, yes!
[19:27:11] <hazzy-lab> should it always popup in the same place, for good muscle memory like tormachs, or should I make it more close to the entry?
[19:31:08] <Lcvette[m]> Mmm... Good question
[19:32:15] <Lcvette[m]> Will on bigger screen that may be distracting
[19:32:36] <Lcvette[m]> Having to look far away from the entry box
[19:32:55] <hazzy-lab> that is a good point
[19:32:57] <hazzy-lab> ok
[19:33:41] <Lcvette[m]> Box screen probably small enough it would effect much
[19:33:58] <hazzy-lab> right
[19:59:48] <TurBoss> n8
[20:00:07] <Lcvette[m]> Night TurBoss!
[20:00:07] <TurBoss> i shuold pick the mail tomorrow
[20:00:20] <Lcvette[m]> Back to work tomorrow?
[20:01:00] <Lcvette[m]> New monitors come in tomorrow?
[21:56:43] <Lcvette[m]> Oh my gosh it's so nice to have my house back
[22:18:15] <hazzy-lab> hahah, did they leave?
[22:19:01] <Lcvette[m]> Yes, today
[22:19:09] <hazzy-lab> "Guests, like fish, begin to smell after three days" - good old Ben F
[22:19:10] <hazzy-lab> lol
[22:19:43] <Lcvette[m]> Lol
[22:19:46] <Lcvette[m]> Indeed
[22:20:08] <Lcvette[m]> Especially with disciplined children
[22:20:48] <hazzy-lab> haha, yes
[23:45:46] <Lcvette[m]> Ooooh new fancy black background theme in matrix
[23:45:58] <Lcvette[m]> K very nice
[23:46:31] <hazzy-lab> really?
[23:47:22] <Lcvette[m]> Yeah I had the dark there before but this is real black
[23:47:28] <Lcvette[m]> Theme
[23:47:38] <Lcvette[m]> Way better
[23:47:56] * hazzy-m uploaded an image: Screenshot_2018-08-05-23-47-29.png (241KB) < https://matrix.org >
[23:48:00] <hazzy-lab> sure enough!
[23:48:16] <hazzy-lab> nice
[23:49:21] <Lcvette[m]> Hey your text is colored
[23:49:48] <hazzy-lab> because it could not send, lol
[23:49:54] <Lcvette[m]> Lol
[23:49:59] <hazzy-lab> I guess I did not have service
[23:50:36] <Lcvette[m]> Hahaha
[23:50:59] <hazzy-lab> I hiked 11 miles today, had a great time!
[23:51:06] <Lcvette[m]> Nice!!
[23:51:20] <Lcvette[m]> That's a lot....
[23:51:25] <Lcvette[m]> Your so motivated
[23:53:20] <hazzy-lab> that was with a 30lbs pack
[23:53:26] <hazzy-lab> I have to keep in shape so I am not useless when I go to high altitude, lol
[23:54:15] <hazzy-lab> i get used the the plenteous oxygen here
[23:54:23] <hazzy-lab> and then it is not good, haha
[23:54:24] <Lcvette[m]> Hi altitude?
[23:55:59] <hazzy-lab> I have a good bit of family that lives around 6000ft, and routinely climb to 12000 in the mountain in northern NM
[23:56:52] <hazzy-lab> it is hard to sleep even due to the decreased oxygen
[23:57:05] <hazzy-lab> have to get used to it
[23:59:40] <Lcvette[m]> Oh wow
[23:59:44] <Lcvette[m]> To pretty high up
[23:59:50] <Lcvette[m]> That's*