#hazzy | Logs for 2019-01-04

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[09:25:01] <JT-Shop> morning
[10:26:07] <TurBoss> morning
[11:16:05] <hazzy-m> Morning
[11:41:38] <JT-Shop> yea hazzy-m is back!
[11:59:51] <TurBoss> welcome back
[12:00:15] <hazzy-m> thanks!
[14:45:27] <TurBoss> hazzy: how can I reas the notifications?
[14:45:31] <TurBoss> read**
[15:22:18] <Lcvette> hola
[15:22:48] <Lcvette> lcvette had to find all the drivers for everything
[15:22:53] <Lcvette> and reload all his software
[15:22:59] <Lcvette> it took forever
[15:23:03] <Lcvette> and still not done yet
[15:23:08] <Lcvette> ack
[15:23:14] <Lcvette> thats alot of work
[15:27:20] <JT-Shop> what are you doing?
[15:34:14] <TurBoss> hola!
[15:34:43] <Lcvette> reloading windows from that crash
[15:38:47] <JT-Shop> yuck
[16:09:44] <Lcvette> yeah, but on the bright side, my ssd was partitioned like 3 times with recovery stuff so now i have the full size back
[16:09:53] <Lcvette> and it was 95% fuull before
[16:10:24] <Lcvette> now i can go through and organize less critical items over to the 1tb spinny drive
[17:10:12] <jthornton> hazzy-m: http://gnipsel.com
[17:12:24] <hazzy-m> jthornton: Looks great!!!!
[17:13:15] <TurBoss> nice!
[17:13:47] <TurBoss> > [hazzy](https://matrix.to/#/@kcjengr:matrix.org): how can I reas the notifications?
[17:13:48] <TurBoss> ????
[17:13:59] <TurBoss> the notification ch
[17:14:03] <TurBoss> :P
[17:14:27] <hazzy-m> I don't think there is a notification chan yet
[17:14:37] <TurBoss> ah have you seen the jog_button fix?
[17:15:11] <hazzy-m> yes, it should have worked before homing before though ..
[17:15:24] <TurBoss> is cok?
[17:15:27] <TurBoss> ok?
[17:15:50] <hazzy-m> what you changes only works for cartesian machines, j1 > x etc.
[17:16:21] <hazzy-m> it should disable axis joging when not in cartesian mode (when not hommed)
[17:16:56] <hazzy-m> I need to work on the jogging actions, what you did is fine for now
[17:16:59] <hazzy-m> thank you!
[17:17:13] <TurBoss> ok for now!
[17:17:14] <TurBoss> ty
[17:21:15] <TurBoss> I was trying to optimize the code for the lathe thing i did with qml
[17:32:18] <TurBoss> I'm gona fork qtpyvcp
[17:32:33] <TurBoss> use the widget system
[17:32:40] <TurBoss> too write another app
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[17:56:07] <jthornton> hazzy-m: if you get some spare time could you look at this and tell me what I messed up in this hello world lol https://github.com
[17:56:29] <jthornton> I can't get it to run after installing it with pip install -e .
[18:01:57] <hazzy-m> hello/init.py is empty
[18:02:17] <jthornton> hmm
[18:02:20] <hazzy-m> TurBoss: Sweet!!
[18:02:59] <hazzy-m> TurBoss: I've though about making a more generic version, and then having plugins for LCNC
[18:04:09] <TurBoss> nice
[18:04:09] <jthornton> what needs to go in the init.py?
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[18:05:49] <hazzy-m> not much, but you need the specify VCP_CONFIG_FILE and add the main method for the entry point
[18:06:01] <hazzy-m> look in the vcp-templace init.py
[18:06:12] <hazzy-m> you should be able to just copy it over
[18:07:45] <jthornton> ah this is just a simple pyqt window that says hello
[18:08:09] <jthornton> just trying to sort out the code for a simple example
[18:08:37] <hazzy-m> oh
[18:08:53] * hazzy-m turns red
[18:08:55] <hazzy-m> LOL
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[18:10:18] <hazzy-m> 'gui_scripts': ['hello=hello:hello',], will try to use the hello method from the hello package, rather than from the hello module
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[18:10:44] <hazzy-m> you may need to use hello=hello.hello:hello
[18:10:51] <jthornton> ah ok
[18:11:23] <hazzy-m> ah, but you also need do define an entry point method
[18:11:44] <Roguish_VM> hazzy-m: hey, i've built a vm and installed everything I can, following JT's routine, and going thru your instructions. I think everyghing is good, but when I get to 'pip install --editable' i get 'needs and argument'
[18:11:59] <Roguish_VM> little help?
[18:12:03] <jthornton> Roguish_VM: .
[18:12:08] <jthornton> your missing the dot
[18:12:08] <hazzy-m> Roguish_VM: you need to pass the path the the python package to install
[18:12:20] <Roguish_VM> huh?
[18:12:29] <jthornton> pip install -e .
[18:12:30] <hazzy-m> if the PWD us the package then just use .
[18:13:15] <Roguish_VM> wtf? there's a period at the end? doh.
[18:13:39] <Roguish_VM> that did something.
[18:13:51] <hazzy-m> hurray!
[18:14:09] <hazzy-m> . basicaly means "here"
[18:14:38] <Roguish_VM> basically means end of sentence..................... . . . . . .
[18:14:44] <Roguish_VM> thx
[18:14:48] <jthornton> what I have now https://github.com gives me TypeError: super() takes at least 1 argument (0 given)
[18:14:51] <hazzy-m> lol
[18:15:18] <jthornton> Roguish_VM: I thought it was a typo when I first saw it lol
[18:20:09] <hazzy-m> jthornton: super(hello, self).__init__(parent=None)
[18:20:30] <hazzy-m> if your using py2.7
[18:20:51] <Roguish_VM> ok, brender comes up....
[18:21:27] <hazzy-m> Hurray!
[18:21:53] <jthornton> I'm using python3 and pyqt5
[18:22:19] <Roguish_VM> how again to get jauria ? and what is QControl?
[18:23:04] <Roguish_VM> ya come back from a fun filled holiday and ya gotta work....!!!!!
[18:23:22] <hazzy-m> pip install git+https://github.com/TurBoss/JauriaCNC.git
[18:23:55] <hazzy-m> QContol is a GUI I started but havn't had time to work on
[18:25:53] <Roguish_VM> ok. jauria comes up. making progress.
[18:38:03] <Roguish_VM> Jauria runs 3dchips in sim (after adjusting the min and max limits.
[18:43:26] <Roguish_VM> hazzy-m: ok, maybe last question for the day. how the heck do I start and run the actually designer?
[18:43:51] <Roguish_VM> and i'm writing all this down !!!!
[18:44:58] <hazzy-m> editvcp
[18:45:07] <hazzy-m> editvcp brender
[18:45:13] <hazzy-m> etc.
[18:45:48] <hazzy-m> I might should change it to something like `qtpyvcp edit mini`...
[18:48:15] <Roguish_VM> thanks... that may be in your instructions, but I don't find it right now.
[18:49:19] <Roguish_VM> under in 'Getting started' and 'Making your first VCP' there is just 'coming soon'
[18:49:53] <Roguish_VM> but i got it written down now!!!!!!!!1
[18:50:02] <hazzy-m> that is not a lie
[18:50:03] <hazzy-m> LOL
[18:50:11] <hazzy-m> I need to work on that
[18:50:34] <Roguish_VM> yeah, and docs are not always (ever) fun.
[18:53:58] <Roguish_VM> the market is up today. like a yoyo. all that computerized trading. I think everyone should turn the gain down on their algorithms
[18:55:35] <hazzy-m> hehe, yeah if a servo PID was tuned like that you'd be in trouble!
[18:58:05] <Roguish_VM> hazzy-m and JT-Shop: https://pastebin.com
[18:59:31] <hazzy-m> Roguish_VM: Thanks!
[19:03:48] <Lcvette> whats crackin
[19:10:00] <Roguish> hey you machinist.
[19:10:26] <Lcvette> sup
[19:10:28] <Lcvette> lol
[19:10:36] <Roguish> I was forced to send like 45 drawings for simple parts out to china for machining. not happy.
[19:11:10] <Roguish> client thinks he's saving money. i think it's a loser.
[19:11:11] <Lcvette> geez
[19:11:11] <hazzy-m> Roguish: can you not do it in house?
[19:11:25] <Lcvette> thats alot of drawings
[19:11:28] <Roguish> lol. i'm too expensive.
[19:11:48] <Lcvette> whats he want one of each?
[19:11:52] <Lcvette> lol
[19:11:56] <Roguish> the local shop rate around here $80-90
[19:12:02] <Roguish> per hour.
[19:12:15] <hazzy-m> that is not bad ..
[19:12:28] <Lcvette> shop rate?
[19:12:40] <Roguish> that's for simple stuff. which most of this stuff is.
[19:13:04] <Roguish> the fricking shipping is gonna be a lot.
[19:13:10] <Lcvette> do you not break it out into machine time and setup time and cad/cam time?
[19:13:24] <Lcvette> shipping isn't much
[19:13:42] <Roguish> from China? it all adds up.
[19:13:51] <Lcvette> depending on the size of the order
[19:13:58] <Lcvette> weight and speed at which you need it
[19:13:58] <Roguish> most of the parts are 1 or 2 of each.
[19:14:19] <Lcvette> that will be expensive even from china
[19:14:33] <Roguish> oh yeah.
[19:14:33] <Lcvette> china prices get cheap with colume
[19:14:40] <Lcvette> volume
[19:14:54] <Roguish> well over $25k
[19:15:18] <Lcvette> what size parts?
[19:15:23] <Lcvette> material?
[19:15:26] <Roguish> couple shops here are fine. client is just cheap.
[19:15:41] <Roguish> mostly al
[19:16:15] <Lcvette> size?
[19:16:43] <Roguish> largest plate is 20ish x 30. 1/2 tk
[19:17:15] <Lcvette> shipping will have to be by ship
[19:17:24] <Lcvette> or it will cost a small fortune to airfreight that
[19:17:25] <Lcvette> lol
[19:17:27] <Roguish> nothing is super complicated. it's just a lot of parts for a custom machine. no volume at all.
[19:17:48] <Lcvette> ground?
[19:17:53] <Lcvette> or machine finish
[19:17:57] <Roguish> i've sent my list to 2 local shops.
[19:18:33] <Roguish> simple machine finish. clean, deburred. no anodize or other finishes.
[19:19:08] <Lcvette> i would not specifiy debur
[19:19:20] <Lcvette> i would strongly recommend a machined edge break
[19:19:26] <Lcvette> china deburring is atrocious
[19:19:43] <Roguish> yeah, I could do most of it. but i still gotta a lot of designing to do.
[19:19:46] <Lcvette> it won't add to the cost
[19:20:12] <Lcvette> if it does only a few centes poer part
[19:20:37] <Lcvette> is this for you or an actual client?
[19:20:59] <Roguish> we'll see how it goes. i'd rather it done here. it's control and communication for me. i like to talk to my machinists.
[19:21:03] <Roguish> for a client.
[19:22:03] <Lcvette> if you have a relationship with your contacts in China its fine
[19:22:09] <Lcvette> I do
[19:22:20] <Lcvette> i know what to expect
[19:22:26] <Roguish> yeah, i don't.
[19:22:29] <Lcvette> and what to ask for on certain parts
[19:23:06] <Lcvette> communication isn't bad if you find the right contact there but if you get a dud its a nightmare
[19:23:37] <Lcvette> i have one company who make wonderful parts and is by far 30% cheaper then the rest but is slow never hits a deadline and take a week to reply
[19:23:44] <Lcvette> drives me nuts
[19:24:01] <Lcvette> but the parts are always beautiful and dead nuts perfect
[19:24:23] <Lcvette> i only use them on long lead non rush items
[19:24:54] <Roguish> the client has a company in China he does business with that makes for molds. they've helped in the past making a few items sort of as a favor. but can't or won't handle this.
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[19:26:19] <Roguish> my contact is through another company I worked with that has an office in Guangdong. They have the shop contacts.
[19:26:33] <Roguish> anyway. sent off the zip file today.
[19:26:39] <Roguish> time will tell.
[19:27:18] <Lcvette> good luck
[19:27:31] <Lcvette> hopefully you find a good one
[19:27:56] <Lcvette> thats a big order of onsie twosie parts
[19:28:05] <Roguish> thanks. keeping the fingers crossed. still hoping to do it all here.
[19:28:06] <Lcvette> what kind of machine is it?
[19:29:00] <Lcvette> for that kind of money, seems like you could maybe design it with fewer parts maybe
[19:29:08] <Lcvette> do some casting
[19:29:24] <Roguish> a web rotorary cutter and scorer.
[19:29:57] <Lcvette> no clue
[19:29:59] <Lcvette> lol
[19:30:27] <Roguish> well, thanks for the info.
[19:30:48] <Roguish> the GUI is coming along....
[19:31:14] <Lcvette> yup no worries
[19:31:23] <Lcvette> yeah slowly but surely
[19:31:32] <Roguish> keep at it. functionality is primary
[19:31:38] <Lcvette> Hazzy, what are you working on now?
[20:17:36] <hazzy-m> Lcvette: getting back in gear after the holidaze and applying for jobs at LANL
[20:18:06] <hazzy-m> i'd really like to get out there where more family is
[20:25:21] <Lcvette> LANL?
[20:25:58] <hazzy-m> los alamos national lab
[20:26:30] <hazzy-m> where they make the things that go BOOM
[20:26:35] <hazzy-m> lol
[20:26:38] <Lcvette> ah
[20:27:43] <hazzy-m> grandparents, siblings, uncles and cousins are all there
[20:27:51] <Lcvette> gotcha
[20:28:25] <hazzy-m> i'll fire up my dev machine tomarrow and try to get back to work on qtpyvcp
[20:30:05] <Lcvette> sweet
[20:30:22] <Lcvette> whats left behind the scenes?
[20:31:16] <hazzy-m> pressing things are notifications and HAL integration
[20:31:39] <hazzy-m> most everything else it just cleaning up and improving things, most of the functionality is there
[20:32:17] <hazzy-m> I need to look at the list in the kraken
[20:32:36] <Lcvette> sounds like its close
[20:32:53] <hazzy-m> I think it is
[20:33:12] <hazzy-m> any thing really major you can think of?
[20:33:33] <Lcvette> well let me know when you are done with the back end stuff and i will go through the kraken list with you and find the rest of the gremlins in the UI
[20:33:47] <hazzy-m> sounds good
[20:34:02] <Lcvette> i dunno, my one is out dated now
[20:34:05] <Lcvette> lol
[20:34:29] <hazzy-m> I was out for a while, has jeff been in here?
[20:34:46] <Lcvette> i was mia too
[20:34:53] <Lcvette> dealing with some other things
[20:34:54] <hazzy-m> ok
[20:34:59] <hazzy-m> good
[20:41:14] <Lcvette> when you get a chance can you merge me
[20:41:24] <Lcvette> i need some sweet sweet updating
[20:41:28] <Lcvette> lol\
[20:41:43] <Lcvette> just pushed all my latest work
[20:50:22] <hazzy-m> on the VKB branch?
[20:51:11] <hazzy-m> I thought it would be on the pb-lathe branch
[20:52:46] <Lcvette> i dunno how to do that
[20:53:15] <hazzy-m> you started a pb_lathe branch
[20:53:17] <hazzy-m> lol
[20:53:25] <hazzy-m> ok, I'll get it sorted
[20:53:26] <Lcvette> yeah but it didn't stick
[20:53:59] <Lcvette> im still on the same line
[20:54:06] <Lcvette> but it has a different name for some reason
[20:57:38] <Not-e6c6> [02QtPyVCP] 07Kurt Jacobson created branch 03pb_lathe
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