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[05:48:38] <jthornton-> morning
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[09:22:18] <hazzy-m> Morning
[09:23:09] <JT-Shop2> morning
[09:30:48] <JT-Shop2> I may be asking for trouble dunno but I just sharpened my kindling hatchet on the Tormek
[09:46:23] <hazzy-m> Nice! Now your kindling will be little curly shavings :D
[09:50:07] <hazzy-m> You know of Highland Woodworking (aka Highland Hardware)?
[09:51:26] <hazzy-m> They used to be one of the main dealers of Gränsfors Bruk axes, and every one was sharp enough to shave with
[09:51:40] <hazzy-m> they had to stop sharpening them because so many people would cut themselves as they did not expect axes to be sharp, lol
[09:57:29] <jthornton> not heard of them, but actually the hatchet is safer now as it doesn't bounce off the wood
[10:15:58] * JT-Shop2 needs to stop putzing around and finish this last bypass pipe of this run
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[11:31:19] <Not-e6c6> [02qtpyvcp] 07KurtJacobson pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±2] 13https://git.io/fh4Uj
[11:31:20] <Not-e6c6> [02qtpyvcp] 07KurtJacobson 0356db10f - ENH: Error Dialog - add Quit App and Ignore buttons
[11:32:18] <Not-e6c6> [02qtpyvcp] 07KurtJacobson created branch 03master 13https://git.io/fh4TT
[11:33:53] <Not-e6c6> [02qtpyvcp] 07KurtJacobson pushed 031 commit to 03gh-pages [+275/-0/±0] 13https://git.io/fh4TG
[11:33:54] <Not-e6c6> [02qtpyvcp] 07traviscibot 03e2b8591 - Deploy kcjengr/qtpyvcp to github.com/kcjengr/qtpyvcp.git:gh-pages
[11:47:45] <TurBoss> morning
[11:47:58] * TurBoss uploaded an image: 20190117_173222.jpg (317KB) < https://matrix.org >
[11:48:19] <jthornton> morning
[11:50:47] <hazzy-m> Hey
[11:50:59] <hazzy-m> A G4000! Nice!
[11:51:11] <hazzy-m> Is it new?
[11:51:16] <hazzy-m> to you
[11:52:07] <hazzy-m> oh, it's not a 4000, it does not have a quick change threading box
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[12:55:17] * hazzy-m uploaded an image: image.png (40KB) < https://matrix.org >
[12:55:44] <Not-e6c6> [02qtpyvcp] 07KurtJacobson pushed 031 commit to 03master [+0/-0/±3] 13https://git.io/fh43A
[12:55:46] <Not-e6c6> [02qtpyvcp] 07KurtJacobson 03da32402 - ENH: Error Dialog - add Quit App and Ignore buttons
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[12:57:20] <Not-e6c6> [02qtpyvcp] 07traviscibot 030e652ab - Deploy kcjengr/qtpyvcp to github.com/kcjengr/qtpyvcp.git:gh-pages
[13:04:30] <JT-Shop2> yippie last bypass pipe is ready to weld up
[13:04:39] * JT-Shop2 calls it quits for the day :)
[13:25:03] <TurBoss> hazzy: is for my father
[13:25:07] <TurBoss> a gift from a friend
[13:25:52] <TurBoss> he doesn't want nc
[13:25:53] <hazzy-m> he has good friends
[13:25:54] <TurBoss> :((
[13:26:01] <TurBoss> yes
[13:26:26] <TurBoss> I have to leav
[13:26:27] <TurBoss> e
[13:26:29] <TurBoss> latter!
[13:26:37] <hazzy-m> cu
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[14:46:16] <Lcvette> wow, nice lathe!
[14:46:30] <Lcvette> he needs cnc!
[14:46:35] <Lcvette> wowowow
[14:46:37] <Lcvette> :D
[14:51:06] <Lcvette> oh he doesn't want it to be cnc?
[14:52:21] <Lcvette> you could always set it up with mpg wheels for the x and z axis and convert it to ballscrews with double nuts and good fixed bearings and make it really accurate so he had awesome precision!
[14:52:29] <Lcvette> and built in DRO through linuxcnc!
[14:53:20] <Lcvette> then use PBLathe and make him some sweet custom conversational interfaceing that is really easy to understand so he has no issues using it
[14:53:25] <Lcvette> I bet he would love it!
[14:53:52] <Lcvette> kind of a hybrid cnc/manual lathe
[14:55:45] <Lcvette> i think thats what im going to end up doing with my 3in1
[14:56:05] <Lcvette> use it more or less as a tool room type lathe for on the go quick jobs
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[22:21:12] <Lcvette> no body talk all at once
[22:46:58] <hazzy-m> yeah, been real quiet today
[22:47:07] * hazzy-m is working on the tooltable
[22:47:15] <hazzy-m> making it fawncy
[22:47:38] <Lcvette> nice!
[22:49:22] <Lcvette> what kinds of fawncy
[22:49:44] <Lcvette> lcvette is learning fusion360
[22:50:03] <Lcvette> trying to get things setup for his machine cause he's in dire straights to make parts right now
[22:51:02] * hazzy-m posted a file: tool.tbl (2KB) < https://matrix.org >
[22:51:41] <hazzy-m> what metadata should be in the tooltable?
[22:52:00] <hazzy-m> like trays project name type stuff?
[22:52:19] <Lcvette> :O
[22:52:42] <Lcvette> like aluminum and steel or?
[22:53:08] <hazzy-m> no, I mean metadata on the whole tool table
[22:53:17] <Lcvette> meta or metal
[22:53:25] <Lcvette> if meta whats meta?
[22:53:31] <hazzy-m> like what tool changes tray, machine, project No.
[22:54:09] <Lcvette> tool changes tray?
[22:54:28] <hazzy-m> metadata => data about data, descriptions about the tooltable
[22:54:38] <Lcvette> i don't know your trane of thought right now
[22:54:40] <Lcvette> go deeper
[22:54:48] <hazzy-m> neither do I
[22:54:49] <hazzy-m> LOL
[22:55:02] <Lcvette> start more basic and build
[22:55:16] <Lcvette> talking columns?
[22:55:19] <Lcvette> or?
[22:55:41] <hazzy-m> I was trying to think of what type of info might be useful to have in the tooltable besides the the data about the tooles themselves
[22:55:44] <Lcvette> help me visualize what your asking for so i can better serve
[22:56:11] <Lcvette> in the controller?
[22:56:19] <Lcvette> hmmm
[22:56:28] <hazzy-m> I wish, but I mean just in the file
[22:56:54] <Lcvette> you mean like similar to the file i sent you?
[22:57:07] <Lcvette> with all the other info about the tool?
[22:57:18] <Lcvette> vendor, web link, etc
[22:57:24] <hazzy-m> for example if you do a lot of production runs then you have tool trays will tools all set up, and a tool table that goes with them. when you start the run you load that tooltable and load the tools and your all set to go
[22:58:30] <Lcvette> trying to visualize how that might work
[22:58:38] <Lcvette> i see the concept
[22:58:45] <TurBoss> hazzy: you working on the tool table?
[22:58:50] <TurBoss> is much bad?
[22:58:59] <Lcvette> kind of like a work offset but instead a tool tray call up
[22:59:19] <Lcvette> with predefined toold for a specific job
[22:59:22] <hazzy-m> I am only working on the tooltable plugin
[22:59:30] <hazzy-m> adding the save to file functionality
[22:59:43] <TurBoss> ok I'll take the widget
[23:00:21] <hazzy-m> Lcvette: exactly, so machines even have interchangable tool racks, so you can leave them set up
[23:00:25] <hazzy-m> so = some
[23:00:41] <hazzy-m> TurBoss: Thanks!
[23:06:19] <Not-e6c6> [02qtpyvcp] 07TurBoss pushed 031 commit to 03ToolTableLoadFIX3000 [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fhBUL
[23:06:20] <Not-e6c6> [02qtpyvcp] 07TurBoss 03ce1482d - fix tool table loading
[23:06:53] <TurBoss> load fixed
[23:09:22] <Lcvette> hmmm.. i don't know how you would go about making that
[23:09:37] <TurBoss> stil broken
[23:09:38] <TurBoss> :D
[23:10:08] <Lcvette> but it would be good for those with the gantry type atc setups if they had replaceable trays i suppose
[23:11:11] <Lcvette> just trying to think though wouldn't calling up a program already have all the tools needed in the program?
[23:11:42] <Lcvette> i guess this would simply expedite how quickly they setup the machine for the job?
[23:12:45] <Lcvette> for instance i would take the setup sheet and load each tool in the carousel individually anyhow, but they would just snap in the correct rack and key in Tool Rack 4
[23:13:11] <Lcvette> which would populate 10 pockets with 10 predifined tools
[23:13:17] <Lcvette> correct
[23:13:51] <hazzy-m> yes, that is how it works
[23:14:13] <hazzy-m> not sure how common they are, but I know they exist and it seems very handy
[23:14:53] <Lcvette> be good for lathe ops too for gang tools on a fixture plate
[23:15:07] <hazzy-m> yes indeed!
[23:15:33] <Lcvette> or mill turn
[23:15:42] <Lcvette> cool
[23:15:46] <Lcvette> :D
[23:16:32] <Lcvette> so there will be multiple tool tables?
[23:17:15] <Not-e6c6> [02qtpyvcp] 07TurBoss pushed 031 commit to 03ToolTableLoadFIX3000 [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/fhBIS
[23:17:16] <Not-e6c6> [02qtpyvcp] 07TurBoss 0375e2cd2 - make tool_table class wide
[23:21:09] <Lcvette> or just one tool table?
[23:22:48] <Lcvette> now that im thinking about how the atc works, all that you would be doing really is reassigning the pocket numbers correct?
[23:23:17] <Lcvette> so you would still be using the same whole tool table
[23:23:37] <Lcvette> but assigning pockets 1-10 say to the 10 tools for that job
[23:24:01] <Lcvette> is that how it works?
[23:24:03] <Lcvette> or?
[23:24:27] <Lcvette> somehow you need to have the var table update the pockets and tool numbers
[23:42:15] <hazzy-m> you don't need to worry about the var file
[23:42:56] <Lcvette> for an ATC you do
[23:43:18] <Lcvette> for your tool rack idea
[23:43:54] <Lcvette> it needs to be updated as to where the tools are stored
[23:44:06] <hazzy-m> LCNC loads everything from the tooltable, so it will know
[23:44:18] <Lcvette> thats generally done via loading the atc
[23:44:30] <hazzy-m> for a random tool changer I'm not sure what it does though
[23:44:33] <Lcvette> thats not true
[23:44:35] <hazzy-m> rewrite the tooltable?
[23:45:34] <Lcvette> i can load 49 tools into the tool table and none are assigned to the atc
[23:45:45] <Lcvette> not until i load them into the atc
[23:46:17] <hazzy-m> that is what the pocket number does
[23:46:36] <hazzy-m> you mean that all 49 tools and their locations are stroed in the var file?
[23:46:43] <Lcvette> no
[23:47:12] <Lcvette> there are a certain number of var entries dedicated for ATC functionality
[23:47:35] <Lcvette> those are written to when loading the rack or carousel
[23:48:22] <Lcvette> the pocket number in the tool table is arbitrary i think according to what i read
[23:48:54] <Lcvette> the var numbers represent pockets and the stored entries are actually tool numbers and not pocket numbers
[23:49:10] <Lcvette> its wonky
[23:49:43] <Lcvette> i remember as i read it it was completely backwards from how it would intuitively be
[23:55:41] <hazzy-m> interesting
[23:55:58] <hazzy-m> I need to reat up more on the how that al works, I know it is a mess
[23:56:15] <hazzy-m> realy hope rene finishes the tooltable ...
[23:56:27] <hazzy-m> his*
[23:56:28] <Lcvette> dude... you and me both
[23:56:46] <Lcvette> the 49 tool cap sucks
[23:57:29] <Lcvette> means if you have more than 49 tools you have to remove a toold from the table to put a different tool in to use it
[23:57:48] <Lcvette> should be able to have your full tool library in there
[23:58:02] <Lcvette> at least in preset tools loaded in holders
[23:58:27] <hazzy-m> yes
[23:58:33] <hazzy-m> that is not very manuy
[23:58:55] <Lcvette> MSM gives you 250
[23:59:06] <Lcvette> and i thought that was alot until i got close to it
[23:59:32] <Lcvette> i have like 189 tools for my little grizzly now i think