#hazzy | Logs for 2020-01-20

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[08:25:08] <hazzy-m> I like the second one Lcvette
[08:25:18] <hazzy-m> how did you make it matte?
[08:27:22] <hazzy-m> awesome!
[09:32:25] <Lcvette> hazzy: just selected a different material
[09:32:34] <Lcvette> used stainless satin
[09:32:42] <hazzy-m> Ah
[09:33:08] <Lcvette> and played with the rendering settings
[09:33:11] <Lcvette> fusion doesn't offer a ton of render settings like solidworks does though
[09:36:23] <Lcvette> hazzy: hazzy for the atc setup i figured it would be easy to have the m6 remap macros populated with the data from these boxes, i will add some set buttons to pull the appropriate g53 machine coordinates in to the VCPLineEdits to make setting up the atc for the machine easier for the end user
[09:36:37] <Lcvette> but the hal side of course will still be a challenge
[09:37:14] <Lcvette> need to brainstorm on a way to make that a little easier as well maybe
[09:37:46] <hazzy-m> Shouldn't be that hard, I think the4e are some good examples
[09:38:28] <Lcvette> yeah i figured nailing it down and showing some good examples in a atc help window might make it easier
[09:38:34] <Lcvette> does your brothers router have an atc spindle?
[09:43:29] <hazzy-m> no, not yet but he really needs one since he runs production
[09:44:03] <hazzy-m> he has a very efficient tool change procedure though with automatic tool length measurement etc.
[10:02:01] <Lcvette> with atc spindle and repeatable length tool holders he wouldn't need to measure during a tool change! and he could use a touch probe for offset finding!
[10:02:15] <Lcvette> would increase his productivity tremendously
[10:02:56] * Lcvette uploaded an image: linear_atc_data_entry.png (86KB) < https://matrix.org >
[10:05:22] <hazzy-m> He already uses a probe for finding the work peice. A tool change takes about 30s do not bad at all, but he wouldn't have to be around for the tool change with an ATC
[10:07:16] <Lcvette> exactly
[10:07:50] <Lcvette> and once he probed all tools would be properly set for tlo's
[10:36:31] * Lcvette uploaded an image: Screenshot_2020-01-20_10-36-12.png (270KB) < https://matrix.org >
[10:38:04] <hazzy-m> What does three set do?
[10:38:48] <Lcvette> im going to have it pull in the appropriate axis G53 current coordinates using rules
[10:39:30] <Lcvette> so you would jog the machine into the appropriate position then hit the set button and it will populate the VCPSettingsLineEdit
[10:39:50] <Lcvette> to be saved for getting sucked into the M6 remap macros
[10:41:56] <Lcvette> this way of you put tools in you could essentially probe the tool holder taper for center and use those coordinate
[10:42:24] <Lcvette> hazzy: ^^^
[10:42:36] <Lcvette> still working it all out in myhead though so im sure it will need tweaks
[10:42:39] <Lcvette> lol
[10:42:42] <Lcvette> always does
[10:57:56] <Lcvette> yeah seems the two distance boxes would just be fill in lineedits
[10:58:30] <Lcvette> i removed 2 of them and left the set button on the P1 Position x and y boxes
[10:59:01] <Not-c468> [02probe_basic] 07Lcvette pushed 031 commit to 03Linear_ATC_Branch [+1/-1/±3] 13https://git.io/JvI2F
[10:59:02] <Not-c468> [02probe_basic] 07Lcvette 035939757 - linear atc setup page work
[11:01:55] * Lcvette uploaded an image: Screenshot_2020-01-20_11-01-29.png (269KB) < https://matrix.org >
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[12:14:02] <Lcvette> can you use a NPN-NO proximity switch with mesa 7i76e?
[12:23:11] <burklefoo> You can but it needs a pullup resistor
[12:23:48] <burklefoo> PNP PROX = no additional hardware
[12:24:22] <Lcvette> yeah, what i was affraid of, i always use PNP-NC on my machines
[12:24:25] <Lcvette> im going to spec that for my buddy and have him replace them to save the headache of dealing with resistors and allow direct wiring
[12:24:28] <Lcvette> thanks burklefoo!
[12:27:48] <hazzy-m> Lcvette: are you also going to have an entry for numbers of stations?
[12:29:54] <Lcvette> i need to discuss that with turboss, we briefly touched on it the other day and in qml i know it is explained how to use a linear pattern which could maybe be used and then the user can specify in a box how many pockets the rack will have and the qml can take that and data and create the graphical representation to output.
[12:30:33] <Lcvette> but the qml stuff is more turboss's area of expertise for the dynamics of how that could work
[12:30:36] <Lcvette> but it would be awesome
[12:31:35] <Lcvette> i can also add some data entry boxes to determine if the rack is on the x+, x-, y+, y- edge opf the machine so the movements and other data entry boxes for xy Pocket 1 location all jive with one another
[12:31:52] <Lcvette> will be a challengine macro write for sure but i think i can manage it
[13:22:31] <Lcvette> * will be a challenging macro write for sure but i think i can manage it
[13:37:34] <Lcvette> any of you guys interested in doing a group buy on the radio wired Pendants? need 10 to get the group buy price of $125/ea
[13:37:55] <Lcvette> have 2 interested currently
[13:38:08] <Lcvette> * have 3 interested currently
[13:40:03] * Lcvette uploaded an image: image.png (134KB) < https://matrix.org >
[13:40:13] <Lcvette> wires in to mesa
[13:45:21] <Lcvette> * have 4 interested currently
[13:46:29] <Lcvette> have 5 now
[13:46:34] <Lcvette> need 5 more
[13:46:42] <Lcvette> Hazzy you and yourbrother need one!
[13:46:49] <Lcvette> * Hazzy you and your brother need one!
[13:49:16] <hazzy-m> Ha! What's the latency on them?
[13:49:53] <Lcvette> not regognizable on my big machine
[13:49:53] * hazzy-m uploaded an image: ima_e55f1ca.jpeg (223KB) < https://matrix.org >
[13:50:08] <Lcvette> and i was wary after using a crappy wireless usb type
[13:50:42] <Lcvette> very nice feeling unit, has some weight to it and a great formed rubber cover for drop protection
[13:50:54] <Lcvette> magnetic back for sticking on the machine or enclosure
[13:51:06] <Lcvette> and super easy to wire in to mesa
[13:51:42] <Lcvette> 24v power to it and it steps the step pulse down to 5v internally on the receiver
[13:52:06] <Lcvette> the field switches for increment and axis are left 24v for connecting to mesa field inputs
[13:52:23] <Lcvette> and it already has a sorted out halfile!
[13:52:24] <Lcvette> :D
[13:54:01] <Lcvette> has a 60m range
[14:02:14] <Lcvette> have 6 now, need 4 more
[14:02:17] <Lcvette> \o/
[14:04:41] <Lcvette> turboss, can we make another one of those spaceship laser shooting timelines of the project?
[14:04:56] <Lcvette> and will it have the probe basic split in it?
[14:05:00] <Lcvette> and keep track of probe basic?
[14:05:22] <TurBoss> a branch?
[14:05:25] <TurBoss> :P
[14:05:58] <Lcvette> https://www.youtube.com
[14:06:03] <Lcvette> this thingy
[14:12:56] <Lcvette> have 7 in for the pendant need 3 more
[14:13:05] <TurBoss> yes with gource
[14:45:01] <Lcvette> have 9, need one more
[15:08:22] <Lcvette> come on hazzy jump on the group buy, you are daddy warbucks with the big job now
[15:19:20] <Lcvette> turboss are you on dev?
[15:20:10] <TurBoss> nope
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[17:48:45] <Lcvette> turboss are you at dev now?
[17:48:57] <Lcvette> :D
[17:49:32] <TurBoss> its cold there
[17:49:41] <TurBoss> lol
[17:49:54] <Lcvette> very cool yes
[17:50:18] <Lcvette> 41deg F
[17:50:28] <Lcvette> low tonight is 25deg F
[17:50:34] <TurBoss> 😲
[17:51:03] <Lcvette> :o
[17:51:48] <Lcvette> let me know if you want to work on messages
[17:51:52] <Lcvette> im here
[17:57:28] <TurBoss> ok
[18:09:41] <TurBoss> Lcvette: o/ç
[18:09:50] <Lcvette> \o/
[18:09:52] <Lcvette> :D
[18:09:54] <Lcvette> hurray!
[18:13:47] <Lcvette> is M13 ok?
[18:13:55] <Lcvette> whats the bnext macros?
[18:14:00] <Lcvette> turboss ^^^
[18:14:21] <TurBoss> i think macros are good
[18:19:25] * Lcvette uploaded an image: Screenshot_2020-01-20_18-19-00.png (72KB) < https://matrix.org >
[18:21:43] <TurBoss> is how i notice thata tool has stored on the pocket
[18:22:10] <TurBoss> and so others
[18:23:56] <Lcvette> oh ok
[18:24:21] <Lcvette> in qml file?
[18:25:41] <TurBoss> is from the python part
[18:25:52] <Lcvette> file name
[18:25:56] <Lcvette> ?
[18:26:18] <TurBoss> qtpyvcp/widgets/display_widgets/atc_widget/atc.py
[18:27:51] <Lcvette> ok im there
[18:31:10] <TurBoss> afk 10 min
[18:31:41] <Lcvette> ok
[18:31:52] <Lcvette> ok
[18:42:05] <TurBoss> o/
[18:42:22] <Lcvette> o/
[18:48:51] <jthornton> long day here...
[18:49:20] <TurBoss> hey
[18:49:51] <jthornton> just finished putting everything back almost from my trip to Cuba Mo
[18:50:16] <TurBoss> good
[18:50:43] <jthornton> yea a good paying day for sure
[18:50:58] <jthornton> came home with a check in my pocket...
[18:51:21] <TurBoss> good good
[18:51:34] <TurBoss> is twice good
[18:51:34] <TurBoss> lol
[18:52:19] <TurBoss> Lcvette: I can't figure where the breakage is
[18:52:20] <jthornton> yea I like doing work for them, it's a no wait payday
[18:56:15] <Lcvette> No?
[18:56:22] <Lcvette> Could it be in qml?
[19:02:32] <hazzy-m> Lcvette: thats warm! It was 22f in the georgia mountains
[19:02:39] <hazzy-m> even got a little snow
[19:03:11] <Lcvette> Brrrr
[19:03:28] <Lcvette> 25 for Wilmington is getting down there
[19:03:38] <hazzy-m> yeah, for sure!
[19:03:58] <hazzy-m> your quite near the coast
[19:04:16] <Lcvette> On the coast
[19:04:16] <hazzy-m> still need another for the pendant buy?
[19:04:30] <Lcvette> Yeah need one more
[19:04:45] <hazzy-m> 9+1 = 10
[19:04:57] <Lcvette> Yuo
[19:04:59] <Lcvette> :D
[19:05:50] <Lcvette> Hazzy turboss is struggling with ATC thing, can you see if your eyes see something his mine did not
[19:06:26] <hazzy-m> yes, after eating
[19:06:36] <TurBoss> hurray!
[19:06:46] <Lcvette> Hurray!
[19:06:54] <TurBoss> also sim is broken too
[19:07:07] <TurBoss> m6 load from carousel is wrong
[19:12:45] <TurBoss> https://www.youtube.com
[19:15:01] <Lcvette> Can we trade back to when it was working?
[19:16:14] <TurBoss> using hal?
[19:16:23] <TurBoss> yes
[19:16:27] <TurBoss> I can do a thing
[19:18:37] <Not-c468> [02qtpyvcp] 07TurBoss pushed 031 commit to 03eval_atc_messages [+0/-0/±2] 13https://git.io/JvIDZ
[19:18:38] <Not-c468> [02qtpyvcp] 07TurBoss 03e9ae72f - rename rev fwd to cw and ccw
[19:19:19] <Not-c468> [02probe_basic] 07TurBoss pushed 031 commit to 03eval_atc_messages [+0/-0/±2] 13https://git.io/JvIDn
[19:19:21] <Not-c468> [02probe_basic] 07TurBoss 03cbb63bf - rename rev fwd to cw ccw
[19:20:11] <TurBoss> https://github.com
[19:20:32] <TurBoss> Lcvette: ^ ^ just scroll down there is the diff
[19:22:17] <Lcvette> ok gimme 15, diner time here too
[19:22:21] <Lcvette> im same time zone as hazzy
[19:22:22] <TurBoss> cool
[19:22:23] <Lcvette> :o
[19:22:24] <TurBoss> profit
[19:22:25] <Lcvette> lol
[19:28:45] <Lcvette> Same manufacturer as yours?
[19:29:39] * hazzy-m uploaded an image: ima_8b4d379.jpeg (82KB) < https://matrix.org >
[19:29:40] <hazzy-m> :D
[19:51:28] <hazzy-m> hmm, diff looks ok
[19:52:57] * hazzy-m boots into linux
[19:53:24] <TurBoss> i need a some signals to read all other states
[20:10:34] * hazzy-m got tired of booting back and forth between windows and linux on his laptop
[20:10:50] <hazzy-m> the main pain is changing the SSD out each time :)
[20:11:27] <hazzy-m> so i decided to run Linux on my desktop and teamviewer in to it from my laptop lol
[20:11:37] <hazzy-m> works like a charm
[20:12:05] <hazzy-m> very little lag
[20:16:09] <Lcvette> \o/
[20:16:14] <Lcvette> lcvette is back!
[20:16:25] <Lcvette> nice hazzy so your at dev?
[20:16:28] <Lcvette> \:D
[20:16:34] <Lcvette> * :D
[20:16:38] <hazzy-m> yes
[20:16:44] <Lcvette> turboss r u here 2?
[20:16:48] <hazzy-m> at dev from a work computer :)
[20:16:56] <Lcvette> from a work computer
[20:16:58] <Lcvette> :O
[20:19:20] <Lcvette> so turboss needs some signals
[20:19:41] <Lcvette> and he isn't having success getting them to work
[20:20:59] <Lcvette> he is on the eval_atc_messages branch
[20:21:10] <Lcvette> in probe basic and in qtpyvcp
[20:21:41] <Lcvette> turboss hazzy did you go away?
[20:21:48] <Lcvette> or are you plugged in the zone
[20:21:59] <Lcvette> coding like suckerberg
[20:22:04] <Lcvette> * coding like zuckerberg
[20:22:07] <TurBoss> yo
[20:22:08] <TurBoss> back
[20:22:26] <Lcvette> \o/ \o/ \o/
[20:22:30] <hazzy-m> so what is broken specifically?
[20:22:49] <Lcvette> i'll let turboss explain
[20:23:27] <TurBoss> i need some hooks/signals to determine when the tool leaves pocket and reverse
[20:24:13] <hazzy-m> how was it done before?
[20:24:19] <hazzy-m> HAL signals?
[20:24:28] <TurBoss> hal pins
[20:24:40] <TurBoss> but there are 2 parts
[20:25:06] <TurBoss> when the atc homes and sends the stored tools in each pocket
[20:25:13] <roguish[m]> hey, try this. it's way cool and work great...... https://mobaxterm.mobatek.net
[20:25:28] <TurBoss> 👍️
[20:25:40] <roguish[m]> hazzy: https://mobaxterm.mobatek.net
[20:26:12] <roguish[m]> at least check it out....
[20:26:37] <hazzy-m> looks neat!
[20:27:47] <TurBoss> hazzy: does your pc have usb 3?
[20:28:04] <TurBoss> attach usb3 hdd enclosoure and boot from there
[20:28:06] <hazzy-m> yes
[20:28:21] <hazzy-m> that's a good idea
[20:28:50] <TurBoss> my dev is like that just plug on the laptop or the pc
[20:28:59] <TurBoss> ok
[20:29:31] <TurBoss> https://github.com
[20:30:15] <TurBoss> https://github.com
[20:30:53] <TurBoss> thats the signals i read
[20:31:05] <TurBoss> need that but from pythun
[20:31:34] <hazzy-m> Ah I see
[20:32:15] <hazzy-m> and the pocket-n pin was set from the ngc sub?
[20:32:24] <hazzy-m> no, I guess HAL
[20:32:31] <TurBoss> yes that keep track of the pockets
[20:32:37] <TurBoss> yes
[20:32:57] <TurBoss> sub -> hal -> python -> qml
[20:33:35] <hazzy-m> so now we need to go from sub to python, without any hal...
[20:33:56] <hazzy-m> since we can't send debut messages from hal
[20:34:09] <TurBoss> its all in sub
[20:34:13] <TurBoss> hall not nedded
[20:34:20] <TurBoss> was just a pipe
[20:34:26] <TurBoss> no logic there
[20:34:39] <hazzy-m> ok, sweet!
[20:34:47] <hazzy-m> so this will make it much impler
[20:34:49] <hazzy-m> simpler
[20:35:05] <hazzy-m> what is the name of the sub?
[20:35:54] <TurBoss> m10 11 12 13
[20:37:57] <hazzy-m> ah, I see the new while loop in the m13 sub
[20:38:17] <Lcvette> \o/
[20:38:19] <Lcvette> sub routines are simple
[20:38:22] <hazzy-m> so that replaces the store tool method
[20:38:23] <Lcvette> hurray!
[20:38:34] <TurBoss> :/
[20:38:41] <TurBoss> not sure
[20:38:45] <TurBoss> logic is not my best
[20:39:11] <TurBoss> I allways en killing the princess and fucking the dragon
[20:39:21] <hazzy-m> ok, I think I understand what the goal is
[20:39:26] <TurBoss> cool!
[20:39:31] <hazzy-m> I'll see what I can do
[20:39:48] <Lcvette> turboss.... take it dragin
[20:39:52] <Lcvette> lol
[20:40:00] <TurBoss> mother of
[20:40:13] <Lcvette> turboss what is the new messages connected to in the subroutine?
[20:40:23] <Lcvette> the atc.py file?
[20:40:29] <Lcvette> or qml?
[20:40:31] <TurBoss> hmmm
[20:40:36] <TurBoss> py
[20:40:54] <TurBoss> sub -> eval -> py -
[20:40:59] <TurBoss> * sub -> eval -> py -> qml
[20:41:02] <Lcvette> ah
[20:41:07] <Lcvette> what is the eval?
[20:41:20] <TurBoss> the debug message eval
[20:41:28] <Lcvette> is that in a file?
[20:41:39] <TurBoss> in m10 to 13 subs
[20:41:47] <TurBoss> and atc.py
[20:42:04] <Lcvette> ok so eval is a function not code in a file somewhere
[20:42:17] <Lcvette> think im grasping it a little
[20:42:36] <TurBoss> the new messages system
[20:42:47] <TurBoss> (DEBUG, EVAL[etc...
[20:43:22] <TurBoss> hazzy: does the atc refrencte at all?
[20:43:25] <Lcvette> trying to see how it is all connected
[20:43:50] <Lcvette> i can test reference
[20:44:33] <Lcvette> seems to reference fine
[20:44:36] <TurBoss> hazzy, Lcvette : this are the pb diff
[20:44:37] <TurBoss> https://github.com
[20:44:49] <TurBoss> cool!
[20:45:18] <TurBoss> does the rotate fwd rev work?
[20:45:19] <TurBoss> the buttons
[20:46:12] <Lcvette> seems to work in the sim screen but not the gui
[20:46:48] <TurBoss> :/
[20:46:57] * Lcvette sent a long message: < https://matrix.org >
[20:47:29] <TurBoss> oops
[20:47:32] <Lcvette> has no attribute
[20:48:01] <Lcvette> helps?
[20:48:10] <TurBoss> yes!
[20:48:13] <Lcvette> \o/
[20:48:17] <Lcvette> lcvette is the bug finder
[20:48:38] <Not-c468> [02qtpyvcp] 07TurBoss pushed 031 commit to 03eval_atc_messages [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JvIyF
[20:48:40] <Not-c468> [02qtpyvcp] 07TurBoss 037ca0939 - fix rename
[20:48:58] <Lcvette> same error for M12
[20:49:39] <TurBoss> yes
[20:49:41] <TurBoss> is up
[20:49:42] <Lcvette> i just update
[20:55:55] <Lcvette> only qtpyvcp update no PB?
[20:55:55] <Lcvette> rotates!
[20:55:55] <Lcvette> \o/
[20:55:55] <Lcvette> rotates for load tool now but i think maybe wrong diorection
[20:55:55] <Lcvette> sek let me compare
[20:55:55] <Lcvette> sim spins correct direction gui spins opposite direction (wrong direction)
[20:55:55] <Lcvette> used to store the tools 1-12
[20:55:55] <Lcvette> now it stores tool 1 then moves to pocket 12 for next tool
[20:55:55] <Lcvette> buttons spin correct direction
[20:55:55] <Lcvette> think maybe in toolchange.ngc something is backwards?
[20:55:55] <Lcvette> opening toolchange.ngc will look
[20:55:56] <TurBoss> yes
[20:55:56] <TurBoss> great
[20:55:56] <TurBoss> but buttons
[20:55:56] <TurBoss> go in the correct one
[20:55:56] <TurBoss> cool!
[20:56:57] * Lcvette sent a long message: < https://matrix.org >
[20:57:08] <Lcvette> did you add these to toolchange.ngc?
[20:57:15] <Lcvette> or were they there already?
[20:57:25] <Lcvette> nm they were already there
[20:58:04] <Lcvette> i don't see anything in toolchange.ngc
[20:58:10] <TurBoss> :/
[21:04:43] <Lcvette> something si wrong with the calulations on tool storage
[21:04:55] <Lcvette> it tried to store a tool in a pocket that already had a tool in it
[21:05:01] <Lcvette> :o
[21:05:04] <TurBoss> :O
[21:05:15] <Lcvette> that would be a disaster in real life
[21:06:57] <TurBoss> also vismach moves erratic when loading unloading tools
[21:10:39] <Lcvette> im going to compare my working macros to whats in there now
[21:11:00] <TurBoss> ok
[21:11:00] <Lcvette> maybe something got accidentally deleted
[21:28:09] <Lcvette> i just meld compared all the macro files, its not there
[21:28:15] <Lcvette> turboss ^^^
[21:28:26] <TurBoss> :/(
[21:28:34] <Lcvette> the only diffeence would not make that happen
[21:28:44] <Lcvette> it must be in the qml calculations?
[21:29:06] <Lcvette> or a siugnal not making it where the old analog signals were
[21:29:09] <TurBoss> I'll test m10 11 12 from mdi
[21:29:24] <Lcvette> that seems fine
[21:29:35] <Lcvette> the issue is when the tool tries to store
[21:30:16] <Lcvette> i think the qml had some things that would make it mimic the actual atc not?
[21:30:31] <Lcvette> or wait we decided to have the machine move in the same and get signals no?
[21:30:40] <Lcvette> it needs the signals maybe?
[21:30:51] <TurBoss> the signals
[21:30:58] <TurBoss> but on atc.py
[21:32:28] <Lcvette> atc.qml
[21:32:28] <Lcvette> ?
[21:34:05] <Lcvette> maybe hazzy is finding something?
[21:53:53] <Lcvette> im looking but not finding anything that jumps out
[21:54:09] <Lcvette> do you want to just go back to analog hal pins?
[21:54:21] <Lcvette> while we sort this out
[21:54:26] <Lcvette> see if that can work again?
[22:00:21] <Lcvette> i can't find a checkout that the atc sim works anymore
[22:00:41] <Lcvette> turboss ^^^
[22:00:43] <TurBoss> ☹️
[22:01:17] <Lcvette> the tools do not appear in the carousel
[22:01:18] <Lcvette> not sure when it broke
[22:01:22] <Lcvette> are there files that would not be pulled in doing a checkout?
[22:02:15] <Lcvette> or a way top checkout differently that i may not be doing?
[22:02:24] <Lcvette> * or a way to checkout differently that i may not be doing?
[22:02:39] <Lcvette> i think going back and finding where it broke will be the key
[22:02:51] <Lcvette> otherwise there are too many changes to sort out the issue
[22:03:06] <Lcvette> and then we should be able to compare files and repair whatever is needed
[22:10:43] <Lcvette> when i checkout a commit does it pull all the files from that time of commit or just the changed file from that commit?
[22:11:01] <Lcvette> turboss ^^^
[22:25:57] <TurBoss> just the file with that commit
[22:26:05] <Lcvette> ah no wonder
[22:26:15] <Lcvette> so i need to find which commit file changed something
[22:36:30] <Lcvette> TurBoss: it looks like there is a branch that never got merged into master
[22:36:49] <TurBoss> yes
[22:37:21] * Lcvette uploaded an image: Screenshot_2020-01-20_22-36-51.png (26KB) < https://matrix.org >
[22:37:23] <Lcvette> could this be something?
[22:37:27] <TurBoss> no
[22:37:53] <TurBoss> that was the motion pins movement attempt
[22:39:01] <Lcvette> do you remember what makes the tools appear in the carousel?
[22:39:15] <Lcvette> is it qml?
[22:39:31] <TurBoss> python
[22:39:50] <Lcvette> is there a way to test making a tool appear simp,ly to make sure it is working?
[22:40:15] <Lcvette> or do you remember working in something that could have borken the functionality?
[22:40:19] <TurBoss> yes
[22:40:24] <TurBoss> ah
[22:40:24] <TurBoss> no
[22:41:21] <Lcvette> the install on my big machine still works
[22:41:29] <TurBoss> ok
[22:41:41] <Lcvette> i have not updated it because atc is now broken
[22:41:58] <Lcvette> is there a way maybe to pull the files from it?
[22:42:03] <TurBoss> in master nothing has changed
[22:42:04] <Lcvette> it was installed with the installer
[22:42:07] <TurBoss> it should work
[22:42:19] <Lcvette> it does not work in master
[22:42:35] <Lcvette> it has not worked since right after hazzy finished the messages thing
[22:42:53] <Lcvette> i noticed a while back
[22:43:01] <Lcvette> i think i mentioned it in here
[22:43:10] <Lcvette> im just trying to find the point at which it broke
[22:43:13] <TurBoss> sorry
[22:43:15] * TurBoss is tired
[22:43:18] <Lcvette> so we can backtrace the issue
[22:43:23] <Lcvette> its ok
[22:43:29] <TurBoss> n8
[22:43:34] <Lcvette> night
[22:43:35] <Lcvette> :D
[22:51:14] * Lcvette posted a file: atc_broken_in_master.mkv (6453KB) < https://matrix.org >
[22:51:25] <Lcvette> TurBoss: whe you awake, i made a video of the issue in master
[22:51:30] <Lcvette> ^^^
[22:51:32] <Lcvette> night