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[00:01:24] <circ-user-mqaAl> hi
[00:01:50] <circ-user-mqaAl> how can I connect the the for linuxcnc
[00:02:04] <circ-user-mqaAl> thc
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[00:10:55] <circ-user-mqaAl> sorry
[00:11:00] <circ-user-mqaAl> anybody there?
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[02:31:15] <IchGucksLive> morning from Germany
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[02:33:09] <IchGucksLive> the user is offline how has called for help
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[06:16:32] <Deejay> re
[06:16:59] <Loetmichel> moin Deejay.
[06:17:06] <Loetmichel> hmmm, that reminds me...
[06:17:12] <Loetmichel> <Loetmichel> hmm, anyone here that is able and willing to make a printable model from that picture? -> http://www.cyrom.org (its an insert for those full alumium bit handle screwdrivers that store the bits in the handle itself.
[06:17:24] <Loetmichel> <Loetmichel> ... its for this screwdriver (i have just recived 4 of them) -> http://www.cyrom.org
[06:20:23] <jthornton> morning
[06:20:40] <XXCoder> yo
[06:24:35] <Deejay> hey
[06:31:57] <Tom_L> morning
[06:36:48] <Tom_L> Loetmichel, not enough information there
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[06:38:12] <Loetmichel> cylinder, 9.5mm outer diameter 86mm long, with room for 9 4mm wide heagonal 26mm long screwdriver bits...
[06:38:39] <Loetmichel> with a means of getting the bits out. enough information?
[06:38:51] <Loetmichel> hexagonal
[06:38:52] <Tom_L> you want a tube with a lid?
[06:39:00] <XXCoder> its a insert
[06:39:05] <Loetmichel> nope. i have a tube with a lid
[06:39:16] <Tom_L> you want something to fill the tube with :D
[06:39:25] <Loetmichel> i want an insert that can store the bits on the outside. to put INTO the tube :)
[06:39:36] <Loetmichel> so that the bits are organized and dont rattle around
[06:40:36] <Loetmichel> also its a PITA to put the bits into thre-packs prior to inserting them into the handle... if you dont they dont fit and you cant get the cap on.
[06:41:14] <Tom_L> so you just want a round with a honeycomb inside
[06:41:21] <Tom_L> sorta
[06:41:30] <Loetmichel> sorta ;)
[06:41:51] <Loetmichel> as i tried to draw here: http://www.cyrom.org
[06:42:25] <Tom_L> i'm looking at that
[06:42:43] <XXCoder> it seems simple enough to attept but not at 4 am soon lol
[06:43:15] <XXCoder> overconstrained
[06:43:29] <XXCoder> 9.5 mm tube diameter, radius of 4.52mm
[06:43:50] <XXCoder> oh nm
[06:43:58] <XXCoder> thought 4.52 was radius
[06:44:29] <Loetmichel> no, its the depth of the hexagon cutout
[06:44:35] <XXCoder> I know
[06:45:00] <Tom_L> i get what you want but not what the 'pockets' in the rectangle are
[06:45:40] <Loetmichel> half cut side view of it
[06:46:26] <Loetmichel> the three round thingies on top are the cut views at that point of the cylinder where they are sitting atop the side view
[06:46:46] <XXCoder> circle cutout so he can extract tools out of pockets
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[08:00:22] <Beachbumpete1> Good Morning LinuxCNC gurus ;)
[08:13:58] <jthornton> morning Pete
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[08:30:00] <Beachbumpete1> Hey Jt
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[08:48:59] <IchGucksLive> hi all
[08:49:05] <IchGucksLive> log
[08:49:05] <c-log> IchGucksLive: Today's Log http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[08:49:44] <IchGucksLive> Loetmichel, still need the model
[08:50:06] <IchGucksLive> Loetmichel, freecad acceptable
[08:50:18] <Loetmichel> nope, someone in #reprap "erbarmte sich meiner"
[08:50:33] <IchGucksLive> its quite easy
[08:51:05] <IchGucksLive> a block endcap duplicate rotate twice
[08:51:12] <IchGucksLive> endcap<
[08:51:18] <IchGucksLive> done
[08:51:44] <IchGucksLive> i canm ake you a freecad design and then you can change on behavior
[08:52:44] <IchGucksLive> i woudt do some clamp lines to hold them in
[08:53:29] <IchGucksLive> or just separad blocks so only 3 in hand
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[08:54:03] <IchGucksLive> ok up to you if you got it
[08:54:11] <IchGucksLive> diverdude, still online
[08:55:33] <IchGucksLive> some new member at a time where all are ofline
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[08:56:08] <IchGucksLive> Loetmichel, mercedes is in werkstatt what a miss
[08:56:19] <IchGucksLive> hi veek
[08:57:17] <Loetmichel> IchGucksLive: did the merc die on you?
[09:01:33] <IchGucksLive> Loetmichel, TÜV https://paste.pics
[09:01:42] <IchGucksLive> Loetmichel, siomple part
[09:02:13] <gregcnc> how people are made? https://www.instagram.com
[09:02:37] <IchGucksLive> gregcnc, makehumen gots it fast and dirty
[09:03:05] <IchGucksLive> Loetmichel, we need to drink alot of beer after yeasterday
[09:03:23] <IchGucksLive> gloops, or sent the beer to cool the fire
[09:03:57] <IchGucksLive> Loetmichel, 285KM from Tüv to Tüv
[09:04:12] <IchGucksLive> last time it has been more then 500
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[09:04:28] <IchGucksLive> hi ferdna
[09:04:35] <Loetmichel> IchGucksLive: already printing it
[09:04:46] <IchGucksLive> nice and fast
[09:04:51] <IchGucksLive> you need 4
[09:05:02] <ferdna> IchGucksLive, whats up?
[09:05:19] <IchGucksLive> sunny and hot
[09:05:28] <_methods> https://www.open-electronics.org
[09:05:34] <_methods> that thing looks like fun
[09:05:57] <IchGucksLive> _methods, AVR_NET_IO
[09:06:39] <IchGucksLive> _methods, https://www.pollin.de
[09:08:08] <diverdude> IchGucksLive: yes i am here :)
[09:08:30] <diverdude> IchGucksLive: how are you?
[09:08:48] <IchGucksLive> _methods, https://www.pollin.de
[09:09:02] <IchGucksLive> diverdude, a 16 Microstep is CRAP
[09:09:13] <IchGucksLive> diverdude, as you got SCALE 400
[09:09:24] <IchGucksLive> diverdude, do you need that high precision
[09:09:47] <gregcnc> he's positioning a camera
[09:09:53] <IchGucksLive> diverdude, if you go 0,01 it shoudt retch your need eith Microstep 4
[09:10:07] <diverdude> IchGucksLive: i do need quite high precision, especially on the Z axis
[09:10:09] <IchGucksLive> gregcnc, then 0,01 shoudt be ok
[09:10:39] <IchGucksLive> diverdude, you will gain torqu and speed if you reduce
[09:10:52] <diverdude> IchGucksLive: the depth of field where the camera has focs is +/- 50 micrometer
[09:11:11] <IchGucksLive> go one down so you are 200 = 0,005
[09:11:23] <IchGucksLive> per step
[09:11:38] <diverdude> IchGucksLive: right - so I should set SCALE to 100?
[09:11:55] <IchGucksLive> SCALE and microstep builds a EQUAL
[09:12:02] <diverdude> ok
[09:12:12] <IchGucksLive> you need to change both to get a system
[09:12:23] <IchGucksLive> so microstep 8
[09:12:44] <IchGucksLive> =1600 Steps/rev
[09:12:54] <IchGucksLive> gives you scale 200
[09:13:01] <IchGucksLive> in a 8mm Pitch
[09:13:19] <gregcnc> with no external loads, does it matter?
[09:13:25] <IchGucksLive> diverdude, as gloops explaind
[09:13:33] <diverdude> aha i see... so 1600 and 8
[09:13:54] <IchGucksLive> gregcnc, letsa ask him on the speed he wants to use
[09:14:20] <IchGucksLive> diverdude, what is your guess on spee and torque
[09:14:28] <IchGucksLive> speed
[09:14:39] <IchGucksLive> 5m/min
[09:15:01] <IchGucksLive> so Vel 80 and 400ACC
[09:15:19] <diverdude> allright
[09:15:46] <IchGucksLive> diverdude, did you understand the calculation and settins joining the numbers
[09:16:07] <IchGucksLive> diverdude, im german and very old so hard to explain
[09:16:15] <diverdude> i think so, but i might need to sit down and think it over a bit to clarify it to myself
[09:16:36] <IchGucksLive> do so
[09:17:13] <diverdude> IchGucksLive: i appreciate your effort. Thank you very much, and I believe I will understand your explanation when i have thought it through. I will get back to you if not
[09:17:37] <IchGucksLive> ROFL
[09:17:44] <IchGucksLive> im off till later
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[09:17:53] <diverdude> Ok, thank you very much :)
[09:19:11] <gloops> i suppose with filming, frames per second limits govern the speed you can zoom - move the camera
[09:19:46] <gregcnc> basically you have a maximum pulse frequency. as you increase resolution with microsteps, you reduce maximum speed
[09:20:12] <gloops> and acceleration, obviously machinists want maximum accleration to speed the cutting job up
[09:20:39] <gloops> but for a camera, you might prioritise smoothness
[09:21:04] <gloops> jerky movements dont look good in video
[09:21:11] <gregcnc> assuming video
[09:25:46] <veek> could someone recommend a book on fasteners.. i found this: Deere & Company - Fasteners: A Basic Guide to the Purpose and Special Uses of Each of the Many Kinds of Fasteners, Including how it is Designated and Measured, but it's out of print (They have a lot of interesting looking books) Hydraulics Power_trains
[09:26:15] <gregcnc> gloops explain how acceleration come into play?
[09:27:02] <gloops> gregcnc jerkiness
[09:27:23] <gregcnc> jerk or acceleration?
[09:27:37] <gloops> my video camera has a variable speed zoom - if you zoom at max speed the vid doesnt look good
[09:27:49] <gloops> you want a soft start id say
[09:28:26] <gloops> fast acceleration from standing = jerk
[09:28:36] <gregcnc> oh in regard to video
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[09:34:30] <gloops> veek your studies seem to be quite extensive
[09:36:20] <veek> bah mostly google search :( i know very little :(
[09:38:40] <veek> Machinery Handbook would be too advanced for me..
[09:41:24] <gloops> have you made a cnc machine veek?
[09:41:56] <veek> nope - but i definitely would like to :)
[09:42:08] <veek> i'm just trying to make a bench grinder for now
[09:43:15] <gloops> a grinder with grinding wheels? or like a belt sander
[09:43:25] <veek> grinding wheel :)
[09:44:11] <gloops> for grinding something specific or just general use?
[09:44:46] <gloops> -im in a facebook group for making belt and disk grinders/sanders - mainly people making knives
[09:45:12] <veek> general use - i can buy the motor but I still have to figure out a nice way to attach the wheel/pulley - i found a popular mechanics mag that shows how
[09:45:30] <veek> but i thought i'd read up on fastners and gears before i tried
[09:45:53] <gloops> you could use pillow blocks for bearings i guess
[09:46:07] <veek> ah see.. i need to google pillow blocks
[09:46:25] <gloops> but youre going to need a threaded shaft, maybe with a keyway
[09:46:25] <veek> ah yep i've seen that
[09:47:26] <veek> yep - i've been looking up tap and die sets
[09:47:52] <veek> but i don't know what standard shaft's are available (bar stock)
[09:48:22] <veek> also i need to figure out how to actually cut a keyway with a drill
[09:48:48] <gloops> might be easier to do away with the pulleys and just mount a grinding wheel straight to the motor shaft
[09:49:54] <gloops> keyway is pretty tricky without a mill or at least something with a cutter and a moving table
[09:49:54] <veek> ah yep - i think i can manage that.. 1xwashers (no idea about standard sizes) and thread the shaft and put nuts at both ends
[09:50:00] <veek> 2x
[09:50:28] <veek> wiki had a nice article on grinding wheels and their nomenclature so ..
[09:51:48] <rmu> hmm
[09:52:50] <rmu> seems some FAQ on steppers, microstepping and how it relates to linuxcnc thread and latency is needed. probably it exists somewhere, but nobody reads it. lots of misconceptions around.
[09:53:56] <gregcnc> not this? http://linuxcnc.org
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[09:54:53] <rmu> gregcnc: i mean the thing that microstepping is increasing accuracy and decreasing torque
[09:55:05] <gregcnc> plus this? http://wiki.linuxcnc.org
[09:55:05] <rmu> gregcnc: and limiting max speed/acceleration
[09:55:49] <gregcnc> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org
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[10:00:43] <rmu> also this here https://www.geckodrive.com
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[10:51:31] <gloops> Ricky Pelton
[10:51:31] <gloops> to
[10:51:31] <gloops> DIY CNC machines
[10:51:31] <gloops> 1 hr ·
[10:51:31] <gloops> I need a strong CNC Programmer for a company in the tri-cities. Does anyone know how I can find someone like that? It is a full time job paying 32 per hour. I can provide a job description.
[10:51:33] <gloops> Thanks!
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[10:52:35] <gregcnc> what's that about?
[10:52:55] <gloops> someone looking for a cnc programmer
[10:53:03] <gregcnc> in india?
[10:53:14] <gregcnc> antarctica?
[10:53:18] <gloops> tri-cities
[10:53:27] <gloops> wherever that is lol, i dunno
[10:54:02] <gloops> hes from Tennesee
[10:55:37] <gloops> $32 an hour, is that the going rate?
[10:55:38] <jdh> johnson city, bristol, some 3rd one
[10:56:16] <jdh> lower appalachia kind of
[10:56:38] <hazzy-lab> Shouldn't it be Elevennesee, with inflation and all?
[10:56:56] <gregcnc> probably reasonable for the area, programmer is vague
[10:57:00] <jdh> what is a strong cnc programmer? can lift heavy vise?
[10:57:15] <jdh> use CAM, or vim?
[10:57:53] <jdh> $32/hr should support the
[10:58:09] <jdh> $32/hr should support the soon to be acquired meth habit
[11:02:05] <unterhausen> the last programmer probably had an opiate overdose
[11:06:25] <gloops> its only a bit of coding
[11:07:05] <gloops> about $1500 a week give or take
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[11:29:31] <CaptHindsight> https://www.monster.com
[11:30:47] <CaptHindsight> supposed requirements vary widely
[11:31:59] <CaptHindsight> the main side effect after reading a few is nausea
[11:35:41] <CaptHindsight> interesting, most listing for programmer require 2+ years experience, operators however only 1+
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[11:46:16] <gregcnc> gloops only a bit of coding?
[11:49:03] <CaptHindsight> 0 or 1
[11:56:01] <gloops> seriously too hot to do anything here
[11:56:12] <gregcnc> even a bit of coding
[11:56:22] <gloops> my project has suffered one set back after another due to adverse weather
[11:57:26] <gloops> gregcnc well you know cnc, im sure you can do the programming for a stupid machine probably making childishly simple parts
[11:58:33] <gregcnc> how many hours in a work week over there to get 1500 a week at 32/hr?
[12:00:03] <gloops> 8 hours a day thats 250
[12:00:15] <gloops> 5 days 1250 + overtime
[12:00:23] <gloops> and expenses or whatever
[12:00:31] <gregcnc> expense?
[12:00:44] <gloops> im sure youd think of something
[12:01:36] <gloops> operator round the corner from me is always at work - 12 hour nights etc, time and half after 8 hours
[12:02:15] <gregcnc> sounds great
[12:02:28] <gloops> he is much fun to talk to though
[12:02:30] <gloops> isnt
[12:03:19] <gloops> i see the UK landed the aussie warship contract - $36 billion
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[12:08:08] <gloops> biggest peacetime austrlian military contract ever - our old friends!
[12:14:56] <CaptHindsight> how many sailboats do you get for $36B?
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[12:19:59] <IchGucksLive> hi all
[12:25:33] <rmu> CaptHindsight: LASERs are <10k€ new, so i guess at least a couple million ;)
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[12:25:55] <fragalot> 'sup
[12:26:45] <CaptHindsight> anyone been hit by the rise in steel prices lately?
[12:31:19] <jthornton> yea
[12:31:42] <jthornton> everyone that buys steel pays higher prices
[12:32:02] * jthornton need to check the scrap prices might be time to clean up
[12:36:34] <CaptHindsight> jthornton: how much is the price up near you?
[12:36:51] <CaptHindsight> ~30%?
[12:37:09] <JT-Shop> something like that
[12:37:12] <fragalot> wow
[12:37:28] <fragalot> that's going to do wonders for the economy :D
[12:39:27] <CaptHindsight> all of Putin's dreams are coming true
[12:40:34] <CaptHindsight> fragalot: oh we have all sorts of great things planned
[12:40:55] <IchGucksLive> rmu, let them be made by companys parts are cheep and they can be refunded if a miss
[12:41:58] <CaptHindsight> recession, destabilize NATO, overturn Roe vs Wade, fun times ahead
[12:42:22] <IchGucksLive> we will see a hard brexit on the EU
[12:42:41] <IchGucksLive> maybe the start will be monday
[12:43:14] <Loetmichel> *hrhr* just filled my BMW E36 318i convertible with 66 liters E10 at the gas station... it has a 62 liters tank... that was literally "running on fumes"... ;) I should REALLY replace all those missing indicator lamps in the dashboard., (previous owner seems to have thought" if i dont see the indicator there is nothing wrong" :-( )
[12:43:18] <fragalot> a hard brexit isn't really possible just yet is it?
[12:43:37] <fragalot> because of the deal may made to extend things
[12:44:08] <gregcnc> loetmichel it doesn't have the computer?
[12:44:12] <JT-Shop> the guy that owns the nail factory that I built the last machine for said "I wonder what the other nail company will do when the tariff hits" I told him the same thing you will do pay a lot more for your steel
[12:44:42] <JT-Shop> the huge factory had 500 employees before the tariff now they have 400
[12:44:44] <gregcnc> i just read a story about a nail factory
[12:44:50] <Loetmichel> gregcnc: built in 1999. nope, it has no computer (display)... it has ECU of course
[12:44:58] <IchGucksLive> Loetmichel, got throu TÜV but the right front washer failed ;-)
[12:45:14] <gregcnc> my 97 e36 has the computer
[12:45:18] <IchGucksLive> the crack in the bumper is not on the list
[12:45:21] <JT-Shop> the big one gets all it's steel from Mexico because they are owned by a Mexican company
[12:45:32] <gregcnc> continental nail I just read the story about them
[12:45:53] <JT-Shop> actually they are Mid Content Steel and Wire now
[12:47:32] <CaptHindsight> a couple or years ago I was working on machines for re-shored fastener makers (W. Buffet owned and returned from China) now its pointless
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[12:51:01] <gregcnc> Tormach servo machines https://www.tormach.com
[12:53:53] <gregcnc> saunders made a post on instagram and comments erupted into "buy a used vmc" pretty quick
[12:54:29] <IchGucksLive> vmc all over
[12:54:50] <IchGucksLive> the factorys going to buy new ones and get the older out
[12:55:06] <IchGucksLive> maschine searcher is full of
[12:55:12] <CaptHindsight> IchGucksLive: where is this?
[12:55:22] <gregcnc> sure, but they still sell quite a few of these machines
[12:55:41] <IchGucksLive> CaptHindsight, https://www.maschinensucher.de
[12:55:42] <lcvette_> not everyone has room for a vmc
[12:55:51] <lcvette_> or power
[12:55:52] <Loetmichel> IchGucksLive: nice... have to get a new suspension for the E36 'til october. TÜV is due then and the coilovers that are now in it are not registered in the paperwork and are not able to because waaay to low.
[12:56:09] <Loetmichel> (and find why that ABS has logged 17 errors)
[12:56:12] <gregcnc> like most hings people are afraid to buy used with unknown issues
[12:56:34] <IchGucksLive> Loetmichel, it is one of my fwllow students that does the test
[12:57:28] <IchGucksLive> CaptHindsight, type haas vf3
[12:57:34] <IchGucksLive> 252 in stock
[12:57:41] <Loetmichel> gregcnc: most mechanical problems can be seen or felt when inspecting the machine prior to buying it... and electronics problems are solvable, if all fails with a PC, a few mesa cards and linuxCNC :-)
[12:57:41] <gregcnc> single phase, 20A outlet for power is a big selling point
[12:58:04] <lcvette_> if anyone is familiar with https://www.youtube.com
[12:58:14] <gregcnc> not if you want to be making parts
[12:58:44] <lcvette_> he does a great jopb of sharing experience of buying and owning a used vmc and what comes along with it
[12:59:03] <CaptHindsight> gregcnc: Tormach has to since 3-phase is rare for residential or even light commercial
[12:59:17] <gregcnc> right
[12:59:28] <CaptHindsight> not too big a deal since there are VFD's
[12:59:47] <CaptHindsight> but they have it all turn-key
[12:59:51] <lcvette_> and smaller servo drives often run on single phase 220v
[12:59:59] <IchGucksLive> BRIDGEPORT VMC 500 XP at 1300Euros
[13:00:00] <JT-Shop> Loetmichel: that doesn't always work, I have one that I can't convert because it has a "high performace" spindle and I can't put a VFD on it
[13:00:02] <lcvette_> generally up to 750w
[13:00:21] <IchGucksLive> CHEVALIER 2040 VMC-L 1850Euros
[13:01:10] <Loetmichel> JT-Shop: really? isnt that just a matter of finding a VFD thats compatible or flexible enough to fit the spindle?
[13:01:22] <IchGucksLive> lcvette_, if you got a real mashine you can make real parts
[13:01:39] <lcvette_> my fear as a small home shop of buying used (or at least used boxed ways) was getting a worn machine and having the expense and logistics of the repair
[13:01:49] <IchGucksLive> lcvette_, i build the large CNC on a 2.200W base
[13:01:57] <IchGucksLive> all included
[13:02:04] <IchGucksLive> so vfd max 1500
[13:02:23] <lcvette_> define real parts
[13:02:28] <JT-Shop> no, it's a special motor
[13:02:34] <gregcnc> Servo?
[13:02:36] <IchGucksLive> lcvette_, duran ALU
[13:02:50] <lcvette_> the guys with a garage shop likely isn't vying for nasa contracts
[13:02:50] <Loetmichel> JT-Shop: special in which way?
[13:03:08] <IchGucksLive> ok folks im off
[13:03:16] <Loetmichel> i am really interested which motor cant be run by a good flexible VFD
[13:03:42] <fragalot> Loetmichel: wax motor.
[13:03:59] <Loetmichel> anything 3 phase or 2 phase should work, regardless of squirrel cage or synchronus.
[13:04:19] <Loetmichel> 5 phase could be tricky but there are VFDs that can do that, too
[13:04:34] <Loetmichel> fragalot: works without a problem on a VFD ;)
[13:04:51] <IchGucksLive> Gn8
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[13:04:57] <lcvette_> night ichs
[13:04:58] <Loetmichel> if you mean those central heating valve "motors" (linear actuators) ;)
[13:05:01] <fragalot> :P
[13:05:36] <CaptHindsight> 3.5 split phase hamster wheel with floating bearings
[13:06:27] <JT-Shop> Loetmichel: I can't remember exactly something to do with the magnets, it's been a few years ago when I was trying to convert it
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[13:08:47] <fragalot> gloops: good debate going on here for the past few days
[13:09:01] <gloops> what about fragalot?
[13:09:07] <fragalot> .be vs .uk
[13:09:18] <fragalot> where the tactically superior move would be to lose :P
[13:09:19] <gloops> any conclusions?
[13:09:39] <gloops> yes we seem to think the Belgian boss will play to lose
[13:10:15] <gloops> but then there is the psychological lift from winning and so on, difficult to say
[13:11:14] <gloops> also Belgium and UK have another match going on..
[13:12:23] <JT-Shop> Loetmichel: not finding my notes on the spindle motor
[13:12:55] <Loetmichel> JT-Shop: hmm. would have liked to know why that wouldnt work.
[13:13:35] <Loetmichel> i had fun at times converting old machines that hat 5 phase "berger lahr" steppers... drivers were a bit hard to come buy... but nothing with spindle motors so far.
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[13:16:33] <JT-Shop-2> I was talking to robh back then and some drive people
[13:17:55] <gregcnc> should have worked with sensorless vector drive
[13:18:11] <gloops> road gritters are out in the UK
[13:18:11] <Loetmichel> JT-Shop: VFDS came a ling way since then though
[13:18:25] <gloops> not for ice obviously - because the roads are melting
[13:18:28] <Loetmichel> Vector mathematics and stuff is pretty good these days
[13:20:33] <fragalot> gloops: good traction though on the asphalt when your tires melt onto it
[13:20:58] <gloops> yeah, the molten tar might run into the potholes as well
[13:21:00] <miss0r> goodevening
[13:21:06] <fragalot> haha
[13:21:13] <fragalot> gloops: is darren still out with his level?
[13:21:19] <fragalot> evening miss0r
[13:21:49] <gloops> dont know which darren you mean fragalot
[13:22:20] <fragalot> gloops: https://imgur.com
[13:22:37] <miss0r> fragalot: if you haven't already seen the episode of SUPREME SKILLS!!!!! about screwing vs. brazing: https://www.youtube.com
[13:23:03] <gloops> oh yeah i saw that fragalot
[13:23:13] <fragalot> miss0r: I did :P addictive channel that.
[13:23:16] <gloops> the roads here are an absolute disgrace
[13:23:17] <fragalot> miss0r: did you see the EDM vs lathe?
[13:23:27] <miss0r> yeah, that is the one that got me started
[13:23:31] <fragalot> gloops: I was surprised just how bad they were in scotland when I went there
[13:23:36] <fragalot> I thought wallonia was bad
[13:23:49] <fragalot> miss0r: I got hooked by the spinning top one
[13:24:13] <miss0r> fragalot: The topics they take up are quite interresting. but I must admit to do alot of eye rolling with the pumped up japanese translated to english. OMG! THEY REDUCED THE FRICTION USING OIL! SUPREME SKILLS !
[13:24:19] <fragalot> lol
[13:24:33] <fragalot> amazing.
[13:24:48] <miss0r> hehe yeah
[13:25:19] <miss0r> I like the spinning vs. turning as well
[13:25:31] <miss0r> It should come as no surprise that the turning was the most acurate lol
[13:25:42] <fragalot> :-)
[13:27:16] <miss0r> I have not seen the spinning top one. Watching it now.. *sigh* :D
[13:27:28] <fragalot> hehe
[13:27:33] <fragalot> there are 2 episodes of that
[13:29:08] <Loetmichel> gloops: did your "walkie talkie" in london melt a few cars and streets again?
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[13:30:13] <gloops> its the heat Loetmichel, its well over 30C
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[13:31:08] <Loetmichel> i know. but with that heat and clear skies its time for the next round of molten cars in the street in front of said building
[13:31:34] <lcvette_> pcw_mesa: i see now why you directed me to the hal to check scaling.. mine shows the scaling i think linking back to the ini: setp hm2_7i92.0.stepgen.00.position-scale [AXIS_0]STEP_SCALE
[13:31:49] <lcvette_> starting to catch on
[13:31:56] <Loetmichel> who would have thought that a reflective glass fassade that is concave can wreak havoc on the neighborhood?
[13:31:57] <Loetmichel> :-)
[13:32:08] <gloops> they do tar with varying melting points, no doubt the UK used the cheapest crap available
[13:32:16] <lcvette_> i was trying to find info on your suiggestion yesterday of using the encoderfeedback like a linear scale
[13:32:34] <fragalot> Loetmichel: I don't think gloops knows what you're talking about
[13:33:54] <Loetmichel> fragalot: the building in londond that has the nickname "walkie talkie"... and is known for doing that to cars in the street
[13:34:07] <fragalot> Loetmichel: I know. :-)
[13:34:24] <CaptHindsight> feature not bug https://www.youtube.com
[13:34:30] <Loetmichel> if gloops lives in GB he will have heard/read the shitstorm that ensued a few years ago as the first cars melted
[13:36:40] <JT-Shop> Loetmichel: perhaps so but the VMC is not generating enough income to pay for a phone call... so long as it runs I'll just have to use floppies
[13:36:53] <SpeedEvil> If setting cars on fire is wrong, I don't want to be right.
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[13:41:10] <gloops> no i didnt lol, london is a foreign place to me
[13:43:23] <gloops> 8 changes to the England side
[13:44:09] <gloops> Belgium playing #2 goalie...aye aye
[13:44:44] <CaptHindsight> Loetmichel: assuming one reads, watches or hears the popular news
[13:45:06] <Loetmichel> CaptHindsight: indeed
[13:46:20] <CaptHindsight> https://www.nationalenquirer.com 30-40 years ago we used to read these like the Onion...
[13:46:49] <CaptHindsight> now I can't tell the difference from Fox
[13:48:48] <fragalot> the onion and southpark actually struggle right now
[13:48:54] <fragalot> because reality is worse than what they can come up with
[13:49:34] <CaptHindsight> Southpark still mashes it up pretty well to get the point across
[13:51:14] <CaptHindsight> the Southpark creators don't have to create, just blend
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[14:09:55] <gloops> Belgium looking dangerous!
[14:10:18] <fragalot_> rawr.
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[14:12:33] <Frank_10> hi
[14:12:40] <Frank_10> Iong time
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[14:29:16] <Deejay> re
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[15:07:37] <gloops> England have convincingly allowed belgium to score haha
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[15:32:54] <Tom_L> is that what you're goin with...
[15:35:13] <gloops> its actually better to lose this game
[15:35:54] <XXCoder> CaptHindsight: Onion works really hard to beat reality. :(
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[15:44:49] <fragalot> gloops: did we lose yet?
[15:44:55] <gloops> the next stage is knockout - lose youre out, this is played out in 2 groups until only 2 remain - they meet in the final
[15:45:09] <gloops> fragalot no youre winning lol
[15:45:17] <fragalot> really?
[15:45:21] <fragalot> I thought they agreed not to
[15:45:21] <gloops> yep
[15:45:24] <fragalot> weird
[15:45:37] <gloops> so you go into the hard group now haha
[15:45:47] <fragalot> I guess
[15:48:02] <gloops> belgium will probably do well i think
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[15:51:10] <gloops> england will play colombia - then sweden or switzerland if they win
[15:51:23] <gloops> Belgium will be meeting brazil at some point
[15:52:38] <Tom_L> takin the easy way out...
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[15:53:09] <gloops> england was resting its best side tonight, avoid injuries etc
[15:53:15] <fragalot> I think we now know why those players are on the B-team
[15:53:21] <fragalot> they can't even lose right
[15:53:32] <fragalot> :P
[15:53:46] <fragalot> not only tonight
[15:53:53] <fragalot> winner has to do a lot of travelling & play again earlier
[15:55:28] <fragalot> https://www.youtube.com <= that kinda reminds me of that underwater pipeline being cut into sucking up that crab
[15:56:26] <gloops> they had one of those when they did the gas pipes on the street
[15:56:49] <fragalot> must be quite a lot of suction power
[15:57:01] <fragalot> I wonder if it still works on the solid clay we've got here
[15:57:47] <gloops> i the lorry had a breaker on it as well
[15:57:55] <gloops> i think
[15:58:49] <Tom_L> wouldn't wanna get your arm caught in that
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[16:27:37] <JT-Shop> that would not touch the dirt here lol
[16:28:55] <XXCoder> fragalot: surpising many living things in sea uses pressure and suction as weapon
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[16:34:55] <CaptHindsight> it only sucks at 1 atmosphere, I wonder if you could make one for -2 or -3 ATM
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[16:38:08] <CaptHindsight> this just needs to add resin and use CF vs wool https://www.youtube.com
[16:41:20] <fragalot> hehe
[16:41:37] <fragalot> I remember running one of those machines in school
[16:41:47] <fragalot> mesmerising to do as an 11yo
[16:44:31] <XXCoder> 2 color run is slow lol
[16:44:56] <XXCoder> still faster than hand I guess
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[16:48:16] <XXCoder> nice ocpti-kitty
[16:52:38] <CaptHindsight> vs crochet machine in German https://www.youtube.com
[16:54:23] <CaptHindsight> crocheted CF auto panels
[16:55:23] <gregcnc> https://www.instagram.com
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[17:11:16] <JT-Shop> all right the varmint camera is fixed... plastic hinge pins really!
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[17:22:36] <Deejay> gn8
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[17:22:50] <tjb1> So with NPN proximity sensors all sharing an input, can I place a diode on each line to prevent the trigger from one from lighting all the others?
[17:23:38] <tjb1> gregcnc: that yours?
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[17:46:39] <gregcnc> tjb1 no just something I thought capthindsight might find interesting
[17:59:57] <gloops> http://www.itv.com
[18:00:37] <gloops> 'man on the curtain' security device
[18:01:50] <gloops> i feel more redundant and useless every day
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[20:55:35] <skunkworks> so - almost burned up a 2 hp motor 3 phase motor
[20:56:50] <CaptHindsight> dropped a leg?
[20:57:01] <skunkworks> we have been having problems with the collet on the K&T releasing. We finally tried to work though the problem. The valve seemed like it was sticky so we rebuilt it and it didn't help. I ran some tool paths I wanted to get done and I started smelling hot varnish
[20:57:48] <skunkworks> the constant pressure pump that runs runs the collet clamp/unclamp (amoung other things) was taking a couple amps over
[20:58:29] <skunkworks> finally said it had to be the cylinder. took it apart. the seals were falling apart..
[20:58:47] <skunkworks> so the constant pressure pump was trying to make up for the huge leak by
[20:59:08] <skunkworks> (5 inch in diameter cylinder)
[20:59:37] <skunkworks> come to find out we had an extra - looks like they rebuilt it (this would be in the 80's)
[21:02:10] <skunkworks> needs some of the end cap orings replaced - but the cup piston seals look good
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[21:08:54] <skunkworks> I guess after 50 years - some seals should be replaced...
[21:10:03] <skunkworks> we had been fighting that issue for way too long. intially we just thought the collet was sticking
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[21:12:54] <tjb1> So on the G540 the inputs float high?
[21:14:38] <tjb1> Im using a Teensy to control inputs on the G540 and turns out I needed to add a transistor which I have on the negative line, should I put a pullup resistor on the 12v supply to pull the input high?
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[21:15:13] <Tom_L> not if they're 5v inputs
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[21:17:07] <tjb1> on the g540?
[21:17:26] <Tom_L> whatever inputs you're pulling high
[21:17:41] <tjb1> INPUTS: The G540 has four general purpose inputs called INPUT 1, INPUT 2, INPUT 3 and INPUT 4 on the MAIN
[21:17:41] <tjb1> TERMINAL BLOCK. They are at POSITION 1, POSITION 2, POSITION 3 and POSITION 4 respectively on the terminal
[21:17:41] <tjb1> block. These inputs may be used as limit switches or for any other purpose. SPST switches can be used with these
[21:17:41] <tjb1> inputs. One end of the switch goes to the input, the other end of the switch goes to ground (POSITION 12).
[21:17:57] <tjb1> They read 11.xx volts with nothing connected
[21:18:06] <tjb1> thats with 48v going to the g540
[21:18:25] <Tom_L> i'm not familiar with it
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[21:19:25] <Tom_L> https://www.geckodrive.com
[21:19:56] <tjb1> I think I nust need to pull it low...dont know why the teensy cant do it though
[21:20:07] <Tom_L> P8 sample wiring diagram
[21:21:04] <tjb1> yeah they need grounded
[21:36:52] <tjb1> I was able to get UCCNC to run on a Winbook tablet
[22:14:41] <tjb1> https://cdn.discordapp.com THC signals working!
[22:30:56] <tjb1> Anyone using SheetCAM in here?
[22:39:48] <Lcvette> log
[22:39:48] <c-log> Lcvette: Today's Log http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
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[23:07:39] <Roguish> you could check in with cmorely or cradek. I think they wrote gremlin. just to get their ideas.
[23:09:02] <hazzy-lab> Roguish: Yes, cmorely did most/all of the work to get gremlin working with Qt
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