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[01:25:31] <IchGucksLive> Morning from a Sunny Day in Germany
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[01:26:44] <hazzy-lab> Morning Ichs
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[01:29:03] <IchGucksLive> morning deanforbes_
[01:30:14] <IchGucksLive> hazzy-lab, its getting wearer and wearer on my YT channel as people noe on §d Printer are not familiar with zero systems of Corrdinates Mashine Part Tool
[01:30:24] <hazzy-lab> deanforbes_: I got my STMBL kits today, the cases are great, thank you!
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[01:31:52] <IchGucksLive> im off 2 garden
[01:31:56] <hazzy-lab> IchGucksLive: 3D printing is making people think they know how to run a CNC machine, when they actualy have no idea!
[01:32:01] <hazzy-lab> cu
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[01:32:12] <IchGucksLive> agree
[01:32:27] <IchGucksLive> Haircutter shoudent be a craftsmen
[01:32:39] <hazzy-lab> LOL, true
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[01:41:35] <skunkworks> i didnt understand how easy 3d printing was... suprised the heck out of me.
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[05:55:29] <XXCoder> wow new robrenz video. thats rare
[05:56:27] <Wolf__> lol I figure the 1 on my subscription list was a youtube error
[05:57:06] <XXCoder> youre robenz?
[05:57:29] <Wolf__> its mostly his channel’s fault that I am bidding on a surface grinder
[05:57:49] <XXCoder> ahh lol
[05:58:05] <XXCoder> grinder seems amazing but I dont need it much. sometimes I wish work had em though
[05:58:31] <XXCoder> I';d had a side project of making my own few items just for fun and learning
[05:58:42] <XXCoder> one question though
[05:58:56] <XXCoder> how the heck do you guys flatten grind wheel so its nice and flat to surface?
[05:59:11] <Wolf__> dress the wheel
[05:59:46] <Wolf__> also done when setting cutting angle on the wheels
[06:00:01] <XXCoder> "dress" the wheel?
[06:00:06] <Wolf__> go check out some of surbuban tools vids
[06:00:09] <XXCoder> man lots to earn lol
[06:00:23] <Wolf__> yeah tons
[06:00:51] <XXCoder> I suspect i will always be stuck between machinist and operator
[06:01:04] <Wolf__> i’m somewhat pissed that i just found out yesterday that there is a king scraping class at ny-cnc on the 2nd-6th next month
[06:01:37] <Wolf__> too late for me to try to go to it
[06:01:52] <XXCoder> king acraping sounds like something kings shouldnt go to lol
[06:02:05] <Wolf__> richard king
[06:03:35] <XXCoder> ok lol
[06:03:49] <XXCoder> man he got lots of calipers
[06:03:58] <XXCoder> hes destroying another 2 for that project
[06:04:10] <Wolf__> who? oh that tells me who lol
[06:04:19] <XXCoder> I still remember his modified caliper project. was interesting'
[06:04:35] <XXCoder> and his stoning all kinds of sensive tooling that was kinda scary
[06:04:53] <Wolf__> I found his channel when I got my LCR meter, kelvin clip probs, damn insane
[06:06:59] <Wolf__> 7 hrs left to go on the auction I’m bidding on
[06:07:10] <XXCoder> cool hope you win :)
[06:07:44] <XXCoder> hes holding a screw. wondering if he will grind it.
[06:07:57] <gloops> oh for that beautiful mirror finish heh
[06:08:11] <XXCoder> looks like no, hes holding new one with ehx tool
[06:08:22] <gloops> and you thought you had mating surfaces that met - until you grind them
[06:08:53] <XXCoder> work has 123 block that looks worn, till you see that you can lift one 123 with another, without touching bottom one
[06:09:03] <XXCoder> thats pretty strong vacuum hold by very flat surfaces.
[06:09:36] <gloops> yeah that sounds pretty much flat
[06:10:44] <Wolf__> more likely wring together
[06:11:11] <XXCoder> my boss almost shattered a 90 degree plate by showing how it slides across freshly re-ground rock
[06:11:25] <XXCoder> he slid it to another hand and missed it.
[06:11:33] <XXCoder> he grabbed it as it was going over
[06:11:35] <Wolf__> lol
[06:11:48] <XXCoder> it was brand new 90 degree also
[06:11:51] <XXCoder> big one
[06:11:53] <jthornton> morning
[06:11:57] <XXCoder> hey
[06:12:49] <Wolf__> xotools vid on surface plate refinishing the tech doing the work mentioned the same thing happening with someone sliding a height gauge or something off a fresh lapped plate
[06:13:10] <XXCoder> crazy
[06:13:41] <XXCoder> the tiny rock I use at robos area is very chipped and bad shape, till they reground it. its now very chipped but nothing in postive range
[06:13:57] <XXCoder> it was from utah division that closed down
[06:14:06] <XXCoder> man its no wonder, everything from there was in bad shape
[06:14:16] <Wolf__> I need to check my plate still =/
[06:14:40] <XXCoder> is certification a reqirement for your shop?
[06:14:48] <Wolf__> not yet lol
[06:15:18] <Wolf__> I’m thinking about getting a auto collimator to check it out myself
[06:15:28] <XXCoder> can make one of those?
[06:15:44] <Wolf__> ebay
[06:16:41] <XXCoder> lol. he needed to engrave glass. he has a sharp blade. guess what he does with it
[06:21:43] <gloops> someone posted pics of some sandstone he#d vcarved with router and diamond V bit, looked very well, id have a go but the problem probably wouldbt be carving the stone, but cutting it to size and so on, big difference to wood
[06:22:24] <gloops> would take ages for the router to cut a profile out
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[06:28:12] <Tom_itx> morning
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[06:28:27] <XXCoder> hey
[06:28:36] <Wolf__> morning
[06:29:31] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[06:29:33] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[06:30:21] <Tom_L> still needs a couple holes
[06:30:31] <jthornton> what are you making?
[06:30:52] <Tom_L> roller skate bottom for my kids
[06:31:01] <jthornton> cool
[06:31:38] <Tom_L> getting the cob webs outta my cad cam too
[06:35:13] <Tom_L> 77F Hi 101
[06:37:36] <jthornton> 72°F high 90°F for a change
[06:38:54] <jthornton> yikes A blazing heat wave will consume much of the southern Plains and lower Mississippi River Valley through early next week, especially in Texas. Expect record highs temperatures and very dangerous heat indices, both surging well over 100 degrees.
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[07:01:22] <gloops> sick of this stupid weather
[07:01:37] <gloops> feeding animals hay in middle of summer!
[07:01:39] <XXCoder> better stupid weather than forest fires
[07:02:00] <XXCoder> here little bit of a problem with forest fires. not like insane one last year but...
[07:02:26] <XXCoder> sweden I think or swiss having a HUGE forest fire problem now. so bad they are calling out for help. 11 big forest fires
[07:04:29] <XXCoder> man last year I was sick constantly for almost a month due to ash :(
[07:04:55] <XXCoder> I really really hope it dont repeat
[07:05:02] <XXCoder> well night
[07:06:08] <SpeedEvil> XXCoder: proper protective equipment ++
[07:10:36] <gloops> BREAKING Mystery over massive plume of smoke emerging from underneath New York street
[07:11:10] <SpeedEvil> Krang?
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[07:34:22] <gloops> says massive explosion
[07:34:43] <gloops> possibly underground steam pipe
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[08:24:40] <Beachbumpete1> Morning LinuxCNC :)
[08:27:47] <jdh> good afternoon
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[08:29:36] <Beachbumpete1> heh are you out of the country or something?
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[08:42:38] <diverdude> hi, i have installed linuxmint19. Somebody in here said yesterday that its possible to install a prempt kernel for previous version of mint and i wanted to try on 19. Anybody know where to find this bespoke kernel?
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[08:54:58] <IchGucksLive> hi all
[08:55:04] <IchGucksLive> prity hot here today
[08:55:49] <IchGucksLive> diverdude, still here
[08:56:03] <diverdude> IchGucksLive: yes :)
[08:56:21] <IchGucksLive> there is a RT and PReampt on 18.1
[08:56:31] <IchGucksLive> there is a complete workflow
[08:56:52] <diverdude> IchGucksLive: ok - dont you think it works on 19 also?
[08:56:52] <IchGucksLive> 18.3
[08:57:07] <IchGucksLive> let me see
[09:01:33] <IchGucksLive> diverdude, i cand find one
[09:02:20] <diverdude> IchGucksLive: :( Thats too bad. maybe its not supported then
[09:06:03] <IchGucksLive> there is a 4.9 kernal and this shoudt work under mint19
[09:09:53] <IchGucksLive> till later tour de france le alp dyejes
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[09:30:33] <Loetmichel_> *tinker* *solder* *flooding the workshop* (note to self: new pump has 1.5 bar water pressure... WAY to much for just plugged together hoses... hose clamps are a must!) Now the CNC mill spindle is cool again... and will not grow clogged again so soon, now that the cooling system is closed with no open surfaces for swarf and bacteria to fly in... MAAAN what a mess... *mopping up the workshop*
[09:30:33] <Loetmichel_> :-)
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[09:54:16] <Beachbumpete1> Well guys I finally ordered my first 3d Printer last night. Excited about the possibilities of all the yoda and groot heads I will be making LOL
[09:54:55] <Wolf__> lol
[09:55:40] <Beachbumpete1> I did see a rather wicked design for a clone of the DJI Inspire online yesterday. all 3D printed and carbon tubing... pretty sweet.
[09:55:45] <Beachbumpete1> https://www.youtube.com
[09:57:32] <Wolf__> kinda neat
[09:59:00] <Beachbumpete1> yeah man it is an interesting tilt arm design... uses a servo on the center section
[09:59:11] <Wolf__> some day I’ll bother to finish my big drone and fly it
[09:59:24] <Beachbumpete1> what kind of drone is it?
[10:00:05] <Wolf__> https://i.imgur.com I forget the name of the frame, its a 870mm octo
[10:03:00] <Beachbumpete1> Damn that is a nice one..
[10:03:09] <Beachbumpete1> impressive
[10:03:14] <Beachbumpete1> how much you got in that one?
[10:03:28] <Wolf__> just under $2k
[10:03:49] <Beachbumpete1> woah
[10:04:01] <Beachbumpete1> its gonna be amazing tho
[10:04:17] <Loetmichel> Wolf__: impressive... i went from carbon tubes back to aluminium tubes... MUCH cheaper to replace after a crash ;)
[10:04:19] <Wolf__> actually kinda scary lol
[10:04:20] <Beachbumpete1> most of the guys who are printing these inspire models say around $5-700
[10:04:56] <Wolf__> 12” carbon fiber props, frame is 1m wide
[10:05:41] <Wolf__> Loetmichel: plan is not to crash it lol part of the reason I’m in no rush to finish it lol
[10:06:28] <Wolf__> if I need to video stuff tho something like my mavic is hard to beat
[10:07:08] <Loetmichel> Wolf__: my biggest one: http://www.cyrom.org
[10:07:13] <Loetmichel> ... no kit though.
[10:07:46] <Wolf__> we talked about that a week or 3-4 ago lol
[10:08:01] <Loetmichel> yes
[10:08:04] <Loetmichel> possibly
[10:08:14] <Loetmichel> its nearly the same size though
[10:08:24] <Wolf__> https://i.imgur.com
[10:08:32] <Wolf__> 420mm motor circle
[10:12:27] <Wolf__> I have a few others, (turn sound down first) https://youtu.be
[10:20:05] <Beachbumpete1> Nice builds guys sweet
[10:22:21] <Wolf__> working on my remote mower project has me pulling all my RC stuff back out so I might need to start crashing drones again
[10:22:41] <Beachbumpete1> a man after my own heart..
[10:22:50] <Beachbumpete1> I NEED an RC mower man BADLY
[10:23:32] <Beachbumpete1> I usually mowed myself but recently started paying for a guy to do it.. sucks either way. Having a cool all terrain RC mower would be the cats azz
[10:23:58] <Wolf__> quick and dirty RC mower, commercial hydro drive + 1/4 or 1/5 scale servos
[10:24:14] <Beachbumpete1> it would need to be 4x4 to work on the slopes in the front yard retention ditch
[10:24:37] <Wolf__> track drive or multi wheel then
[10:24:46] <Beachbumpete1> tracks sound PERFECT
[10:25:17] <Beachbumpete1> got a link to the commercial hydro drive you are talking about. I have seen folks use old battery wheelchair bases before
[10:25:37] <Wolf__> https://i.imgur.com
[10:26:22] <Wolf__> the old RC mower https://i.imgur.com
[10:27:37] <Wolf__> I’ll be doing tracks w/ wheelchair motors and 13hp cutting deck, 22” or round about
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[10:30:16] <Wolf__> or I might just bolt the track system up to a 48” brush hog that was a atv tow behind model
[10:32:19] <Beachbumpete1> WOAH that would be some kinda machine...
[10:32:50] <Beachbumpete1> I just would use the motor from my husky mower and remove everything but the deck frame., its a simple self propelled model...
[10:34:02] <Wolf__> other idea is scratch built 36” flail mower
[10:36:22] <Wolf__> maybe wider, depending on what lathe I can borrow time on lol
[10:36:54] <Beachbumpete1> LOL I gotta think some about this idea...
[10:37:16] <Wolf__> push mower?
[10:38:03] <Beachbumpete1> yeah mine is just a self propelled push mower. its a husky with rear drive and the larger wheels but none of that matters just using the deck and motor/blades make the rest
[10:39:20] <Beachbumpete1> I was thinking that a dual motor wheelchair setup with the wheels out front and castors out back might be easier to control direction with. especially if it is longer
[10:39:29] <Wolf__> yup, right angle gear motors, 60A motor controller from robotshop.com, chain or belt drive to wheels, get some semi meaty things from surplus center
[10:40:40] <Wolf__> if mine does well enough in my yard I was planning on checking with county and state roads for hill mowing contract work lol
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[10:43:34] <Wolf__> 2.5 hrs left on auction, seems like people are finally starting to bid
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[10:51:07] <Wolf__> wow and the VF3 Haas is still sitting at $7500 and no bids w/ 2hs left
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[11:11:29] <Beachbumpete1> nice... I have a retrofit Cincinatti Arrow 500 at home
[11:12:38] <Wolf__> funny thing is the Okamoto 1632 surface grinder is all the way up to $6k
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[11:13:26] <Wolf__> https://www.bidspotter.com looks a bit big for a garage machine
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[11:16:04] <Beachbumpete1> Looks pretty clean
[11:16:39] <CaptHindsight> if your garage has a 400A service or 480V
[11:16:59] <Wolf__> most of the machines look clean in this auction
[11:17:06] <Beachbumpete1> My VMC runs on 230v single phase under 60 amps
[11:18:42] <CaptHindsight> Florida is magic
[11:20:30] <Wolf__> 4 edm machines, no bids… but I know nothing about edm stuff
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[11:27:48] <gregcnc> capt I looked at a house this week with 400A service, too bad it's pretty rough
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[11:47:27] <Beachbumpete1> Florida is indeed magic ;)
[12:13:12] <gloops> oh sht, this heatwave is forecast to last another 6 weeks, back up to mid 30s at the weekend
[12:19:36] <Loetmichel> gloops: so?
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[12:37:46] <gloops> Loetmichel its terrible weather i hate it
[12:38:34] <Loetmichel> bah, those few weeks of the year where its nice and cozy ... and you want to have your drizzle back?
[12:38:55] <gloops> definitely, need rain desperately
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[12:43:36] <mozmck> 30's? It hit right about 43C here yesterday, may be a little higher today.
[12:45:40] <gloops> mozmck i wouldnt live there
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[12:47:56] <Wolf__> heh, auction priced dropped on that VM3, dont think I have seen that before
[12:49:18] <Beachbumpete1> you mean you have not bought it yet? ;)
[12:49:43] <Wolf__> I dont (yes I do) want that thing
[12:49:51] <Wolf__> no place to put it
[12:50:19] <Beachbumpete1> you KNOW you want it..
[12:50:31] <Wolf__> not in the budget
[12:50:44] <Beachbumpete1> Nothing ever is for me LOL
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[12:50:54] <Wolf__> stuff i’m bidding on isnt either lmao
[12:51:40] <Wolf__> my hope is to flip a couple things if I win the other stuff I have bids on
[12:51:43] <Beachbumpete1> I am anxious to get that 3D printer I ordered tho that should make for a few giggles....
[12:53:09] <Wolf__> 9min left its at 5500 lol
[12:53:31] <Wolf__> 1632 surface grinder is at 12k … damn
[12:53:33] <Beachbumpete1> hell you can make that back on the first job with it ;)
[12:54:15] <andypugh> There is a broken laser cutter on eBay for £250. I wonder if it is worth it?
[12:54:36] <Beachbumpete1> andypugh you can fix it man you know you want it hehehe
[12:55:10] <Beachbumpete1> I watched a couple videos last night where people were adapting lasers to the 3d Printer fram I just purchased. Pretty cool stuff...
[12:55:19] <andypugh> Well, a non-broken one is only £360
[12:55:51] <Wolf__> diode laser is meh imo
[12:55:55] <andypugh> The idea of a laser in a printer with no extract and no interlocks and no filters terrifies me
[12:56:20] <Beachbumpete1> true
[12:56:29] <Beachbumpete1> it seemed to work pretty well actually
[12:56:49] <Beachbumpete1> he was cutting thinner plywood with it and engraving all sorts of stuff..
[12:56:58] <Wolf__> 1/16” ?
[12:58:18] <Beachbumpete1> https://www.youtube.com
[12:58:50] <Wolf__> 7min left on my first bid lot
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[12:59:01] <IchGucksLive> hi
[12:59:10] <gregcnc> see that vf3 is at 10k
[12:59:28] <Loetmichel> andypugh: ah, another weakling
[12:59:53] <andypugh> Loetmichel: Whilst not disagreeing, why do you say so?
[13:00:36] * Loetmichel s friend built an 80W CO2 laser cutter with 1*1m travel on the table.... with no covers or interlocks whatsoever... and no laser glasses in reach...
[13:00:56] <Loetmichel> i always felt slightly irritatet when it ran and i was in the room ;)
[13:01:11] <gregcnc> did he lock you in?
[13:01:18] <Wolf__> co2 is oddly more eye safe then diode laser
[13:01:33] <andypugh> Maybe I spent too long in optics labs being lectured to as a youth.
[13:02:04] <Loetmichel> gregcnc: nope, just not irritated enough to leave.. irritated enough to put a concrete pillar in the middle of the room between me and the laser head most of the time though ;)
[13:03:15] <Loetmichel> Wolf__: because of wavelenth or because of short focus lenght?
[13:03:23] <Wolf__> wavelength
[13:03:32] <Loetmichel> interesting
[13:03:37] <Loetmichel> didnt know that
[13:03:46] <Wolf__> co2 = cornea transplant, diode = burnt rents
[13:04:00] <Wolf__> rentia
[13:04:13] <Loetmichel> 80W is still plenty to be the last thing you've ever seen. even when the primary beam gets somehow reflected into your eye.
[13:04:16] <Beachbumpete1> LOL
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[13:05:01] <Loetmichel> it may be about 10mm diameter then... still way more power per square mm than good for you ;)
[13:05:18] <andypugh> At college we discussed “phase conjugate mittors”. Those can have reflectivity > 1 and will then form a laser cavity with anything shiny. Including your eyeball…
[13:05:36] <andypugh> (Phase conjugate mirrors)
[13:06:53] <Wolf__> well, I now own a Reid surface grinder lol
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[13:07:13] <Beachbumpete1> woah congrats man did you have to pay the 12k?
[13:07:20] <Wolf__> 450
[13:07:29] <Beachbumpete1> sweet
[13:07:31] <gregcnc> lol not the same grinder
[13:08:21] <rmu> andypugh: how is that possible, that can't be a simple mirror
[13:08:34] <Wolf__> yeah not that big ass grinder
[13:09:15] <andypugh> rmu: No https://en.wikipedia.org
[13:11:35] <rmu> you have to feed in some energy somehow
[13:12:03] <andypugh> Yes, you need to optically pump it, typically.
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[13:12:39] <rmu> i heard something about "disc lasers", i suspect they work similar to this
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[13:15:56] <gloops> $450 dollars doesnt sound bad for a surface grinder
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[13:40:37] <Wolf__> I got in a bid fight over magnetic sine plates… I lost
[13:50:20] <gloops> https://www.ebay.co.uk
[13:51:07] <gloops> looks slightly battered though
[13:51:08] <Wolf__> yeah but less beat to death
[13:51:43] <gloops> plenty on ebay anyway
[13:52:24] <Wolf__> 2 were suburban tools
[13:52:30] <Wolf__> $$$
[13:52:43] <Wolf__> lot of 3 went for $900
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[13:53:23] <Wolf__> mostly my fault whom ever didn’t get them all for $300 lol
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[13:58:26] <Wolf__> ok, thats over with, now own Reid 618HL surface grinder, a wall of grinding wheels, 3x radius dressers, 4 sets of magnetic parallels, 4 toolmakers vises, a band file and one really ugly cabinet full of misc broaches and center drills lol
[14:03:56] <Wolf__> https://portal-images.azureedge.net $25 =D
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[14:04:54] <gloops> looks like youre now officially in the surface grinding business
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[14:05:16] <Wolf__> least I have wheels to burn while trying to learn it lol
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[14:06:49] <Wolf__> missed a couple things, got beat out on a few others but total was only $960
[14:07:09] <Wolf__> + tax and auction house fee
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[14:11:38] <gloops> id be happy enough with the grinder and wheels etc, nice toy to play with there
[14:12:53] <Wolf__> the wheels and the wheel dresser lot I think was the real steal
[14:19:46] <Wolf__> so, cnc a surface grinder?
[14:20:24] <gloops> yeah
[14:21:35] <gloops> but wouldnt removed the handles or anything
[14:21:47] <gloops> can still use it as manual with motors power off
[14:21:58] <Wolf__> yeah, thats what I was thinking
[14:22:19] <Wolf__> or full disconnect of the motors some way
[14:28:03] <Wolf__> getting ahead of myself tho
[14:28:13] <Wolf__> step 1 get stuff home
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[14:48:14] <gloops> lol, yeah, some weight in that id guess
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[14:54:30] <Wolf__> yup, I’ll be mounting the box body on a skid for my truck this weekend
[15:41:46] <CaptHindsight> can LCNC use more Blockchain, Agile or SCRUM?
[15:42:22] <methods_> it can control 6 buzzwords simultaneously
[15:42:25] <methods_> up to
[15:43:19] <CaptHindsight> only 6... well who would need more than 6 synchronized?
[15:43:57] <CaptHindsight> well as son as you say that somebody always finds a way to use 7
[15:44:54] <methods_> i'm sure you want to use an arduino for this right
[15:45:26] <CaptHindsight> hah, only losers would use a PC with all that overkill
[15:45:59] <methods_> whew i thought you might be one of those PC krazies
[15:47:08] <CaptHindsight> was just looking at business tech networking events and the most popular are software with the above buzzwords
[15:47:31] <methods_> you forgot the other 3 axes
[15:47:41] <methods_> VR, AR, and quantum
[15:47:55] <CaptHindsight> and AI
[15:48:09] <methods_> oh yup
[15:50:38] <CaptHindsight> http://projects.wsj.com if you need more
[15:50:51] <CaptHindsight> and used in a sentence
[15:53:35] <CaptHindsight> "Customer Experience Consulting"
[15:53:58] <CaptHindsight> it sounds like it's right from the Onion
[15:54:15] <XXCoder> poor onion. its having hard time beating reality
[16:00:38] <CaptHindsight> was thinking of ideas to prevent autonomous cars from becoming weapons
[16:01:10] <XXCoder> its impossible to predict what will happen with autonomous cars
[16:02:03] <CaptHindsight> well they will become near autonomous
[16:02:15] <methods_> i predict they will get in accidents
[16:02:22] <CaptHindsight> but require backdoors like your phone and PC
[16:02:33] <XXCoder> I just hope tjey smarten up and secure computer system in cars
[16:02:54] <CaptHindsight> they will be secure from you, the user
[16:03:04] <XXCoder> right now its as secure as warehouse with all doors open with signs "welcome! free gold bars handout day"
[16:04:19] <XXCoder> if I personally were ceo if car company, I would force them to make seperate system for enterainement system, which includes wireless connections, and control system for car, which doesnt.
[16:04:51] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: see you are thinking about this rationally, and that is not going to work
[16:05:20] <CaptHindsight> think like a 70 year old body with the development of a pre-teen
[16:10:16] <XXCoder> I just read that calfornia passed a law requiring companies to have online way to cancel stuff now
[16:10:31] <XXCoder> so no more easy to sub online but must call during business hours to cancel
[16:10:40] <CaptHindsight> likely just end up keeping ground based away from the important people
[16:11:30] <CaptHindsight> no cars within 1000ft of a important person area
[16:13:43] <Wolf__> so… moving a V ways surface grinder, just strap the thing down to a pallet tight and all will be ok?
[16:14:16] <Wolf__> ^ moving by truck ~5hrs of PA crappy roads
[16:14:32] <CaptHindsight> yeah
[16:15:01] <CaptHindsight> strap the moving parts and then strap to the pallet
[16:15:09] <Wolf__> I know you shouldn’t do that with the roller ball machines
[16:15:45] <XXCoder> Wolf__: congats!!
[16:16:02] <Wolf__> I think the worst part is going to be packing all the wheels lol
[16:17:46] <XXCoder> fun. any pics?
[16:18:16] <Wolf__> just the auction site ones
[16:19:49] <Wolf__> let me make up a imgur album
[16:19:55] <XXCoder> ok :)
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[16:27:09] <Wolf__> https://imgur.com only 7 lots
[16:27:28] <Wolf__> was too much of a bid fight over some of the other lots I was after
[16:28:41] <XXCoder> I see it come with bunch of magnet holders not bad
[16:28:56] <XXCoder> and really super dirty drawers lol
[16:29:13] <XXCoder> you probably can save gallons of fuel just by wiping dirt off lol
[16:29:41] <XXCoder> interesting
[16:30:25] <Wolf__> thats all separate auction lots, grinder, wheels, wheel dressers (good score), magnetic transfer parallels, and that very dirty cabinet lol
[16:31:11] <XXCoder> so you got 2 lots, grinder itself and wheels?
[16:31:17] <Wolf__> yup
[16:31:33] <Wolf__> grinder was $450, wheels went for $25 lol
[16:33:45] <Wolf__> cabinet was 100… plus what looks like 8 hrs of cleaning
[16:34:02] <XXCoder> lol
[16:34:39] <Wolf__> but I think that is a lista cabinet
[16:36:25] <CaptHindsight> https://imgur.com how do you get motion control jobs like this?
[16:37:16] <CaptHindsight> didn't SWPandos do film work?
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[16:42:55] <skunkworks> I know he did camera w
[16:42:57] <skunkworks> work
[16:43:32] <XXCoder> CaptHindsight: did you ever look up how they did the LSD trip part of 2001? it was interesting
[16:43:46] <XXCoder> basically super long exposure slot and slowing moving inwards
[16:44:10] <XXCoder> I wonder if it can be done nowdays, I dont know if digitial cameras can do exposure that long
[16:44:23] <XXCoder> cnc can do rest
[16:45:27] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com
[16:46:39] <XXCoder> better one, orginial movie (first is edited) https://www.youtube.com
[16:46:55] <CaptHindsight> was the 60's and that was just about all the opening and closing credits to any scifi in the 70's
[16:47:00] <gloops> how long? you can keep the shutter open indefinitely, so long as the power doesnt fail
[16:47:13] <XXCoder> oh unure lemme find that article
[16:47:48] <XXCoder> https://nofilmschool.com
[16:50:21] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com
[16:52:18] <gloops> thats just tweening in flash?
[16:54:29] <XXCoder> 60 second exposure
[16:54:41] <XXCoder> moving inwards whole time, per single slot position
[16:55:08] <gloops> well, that would have like a zoom effect
[16:55:19] <gloops> you wouldnt get motion
[16:55:22] <gregcnc> basically the same idea as your cell phone doing panoramic
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[16:55:41] <Deejay> gn8
[16:56:20] <gloops> https://www.photographyblog.com
[16:56:29] <gloops> zooming with shutter open does that
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[16:59:34] <XXCoder> his own version of 2001 scene was funny
[17:01:58] <Wolf__> CaptHindsight: back to the optical alignment stuff, lower end price range (ebay used) have any suggestions? I’m leaning towards something like a Davidson D600 right now, but dont really know what I’m getting in to
[17:07:01] <grotius> Hi guy's i have a question about expanding macro codes in linuxcnc
[17:07:55] <gloops> evening grotius
[17:09:27] <grotius> I have made an array to M400 within this file src/emc/rs274ngc/interp_array.cc.... Dont search the file location. I just need a few tips
[17:10:37] <grotius> In linux when i use the M400, the terminal message is stil : uber 200 is not allowed.
[17:11:20] <grotius> So i must change more core files, must i only look in this section tommorow : src/emc/rs274ngc
[17:11:33] <andypugh> Why M400? I thought that only 0 to 99 were available.
[17:12:46] <grotius> It is this now : group 10 = {m100..m199} - user-defined
[17:13:05] <grotius> So i wanted to make M100 to M400
[17:13:21] <andypugh> OK
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[17:19:26] <grotius> My attention was also that there is a max. number of M codes allowed at one line. This code was written when pentium was founded. So i think also increase this number.
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[17:31:44] <CaptHindsight> Wolf__: all depends on what shape it is still in
[17:32:25] <Wolf__> hopefully working lol
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[17:39:59] <Wolf__> I know that part is somewhat of a gamble
[17:41:08] <gregcnc> C-130 doing a loop https://youtu.be
[17:43:48] <DaViruz> wow.
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[18:22:57] <grotius> have a good night.
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[18:27:42] <JT-Shop> hazzy-dev: if you get a chance to look at this I'd appreciate it http://gnipsel.com
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[18:29:57] <hazzy-lab> JT-Shop: Did you see the revised files I sent yesterday?
[18:31:53] <hazzy-lab> Yes you did :)
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[18:49:01] <hazzy-lab> gregcnc: I watched the construction and test flights of the 2500th Super Hercules, beautiful machines and they keep on getting better
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[18:49:43] <hazzy-lab> (I have watched the assembly and test flights of probably several 100)
[18:51:17] <hazzy-lab> JT-Shop: you around?
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[18:55:12] <hazzy-lab> Tecan: How is the printer build coming along?
[18:56:22] <Tecan> im stuck on ramps 1.4
[18:56:39] <Tecan> i might not be giving the steppers enough amps as im using a wallwart
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[18:57:08] <Tecan> the holding torque lets the motors spin still so im not sure what to do
[19:00:40] <hazzy-lab> Yeah, sounds like power supply it not sufficient
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[19:05:13] <JT-Shop> hazzy-dev: yes
[19:06:45] <Tecan> i made a smoke show on one driver by putting it in backwards. was a different design thought the adjustment screw should be on the same side as the others
[19:07:35] <Tecan> the purple ones are opposite to the red ones off ebay
[19:07:50] <hazzy-lab> JT-Shop: Your problem is with the way you are using self
[19:08:19] <JT-Shop> I thought so, just could not figure out what should be used
[19:08:32] <hazzy-lab> self it no different than any other argument or variable, it is just convention to call it self
[19:10:31] <hazzy-lab> self it simply a reference to a class instance
[19:10:44] <hazzy-lab> shoot, gtg
[19:10:54] <hazzy-lab> I will finish explaining in a bit
[19:10:55] <JT-Shop> ok, I never fully understood self
[19:10:58] <JT-Shop> thanks
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[19:36:46] <hazzy-lab> OK, so self it a reference to a class instance
[19:38:04] <hazzy-lab> when you call an instance method (e.g. self.myMethod()) the class instance is passed as the first arg to the method
[19:41:06] <hazzy-lab> hence when you define an instance method in a class you say "def myMethod(self)", you could just as well say "def myMethod(class_instance)", but it is conventional to use self for the first arg
[19:43:36] <hazzy-lab> Now, where you are running into problems is when you call a module level method (i.e. methods defined in a module, instead of in a class).
[19:46:30] <hazzy-lab> python does not pass any args to a module method, so unless you pass the class instance specifically self will not be defined in the methods name space
[19:46:54] <jthornton> ah should I make dialog.py a class?
[19:47:02] <jthornton> I'm in and out
[19:48:01] <hazzy-lab> You could, but then self would refer to it's self, rather than the main window instance, which is what you need
[19:49:33] <hazzy-lab> I think the best thing to do would be to pass a reference to the main window to each of the methods in dialog.py (that is what I did with my changed yesterday)
[19:50:25] <hazzy-lab> You could also move all the dialog.py stuff inside the MainWindow class
[19:51:29] <hazzy-lab> I think what you are doing it best, but you have to keep in ming that you have to specifically pass a reference to the main window (which I called parent)
[19:51:43] <hazzy-lab> I will make the changes to make that work and send it back
[19:53:08] <hazzy-lab> Hopefully I did not muddy the waters more, I am an expert at doing that :D
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[20:05:54] <hazzy-lab> jthornton: files.kcjengr.com/dev/7i96_kcj_rev3.tar.gz
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[21:09:00] <CaptHindsight> https://3dfortify.com
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[21:15:25] <Lcvette> log
[21:15:25] <c-log> Lcvette: Today's Log http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[21:22:08] <Lcvette> Hello?
[21:23:47] <Tom_L> hello?
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[21:24:02] <Tom_L> goodbye
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[21:25:53] <Lcvette[m]> Hello
[21:26:15] <Tom_L> ?
[21:26:24] <Tom_L> you gonna leave too?
[21:30:20] <hazzy-lab> Lcvette: Hello?
[21:36:33] <Lcvette[m]> Lcvette (@lcvette:matrix.org): I can't see anyone
[21:37:00] <hazzy-lab> LOL
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[21:38:15] <hazzy-lab> he did leave xD
[21:38:24] <Tom_L> he's got one more left
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[21:39:21] <Tom_L> you playin musical chairs there?
[21:39:44] <hazzy-lab> there is a net split
[21:39:59] <Tom_L> mmm
[21:40:02] <hazzy-lab> he can't see or hear any thing that goes on in here
[21:40:09] <hazzy-lab> but he can talk, lol
[21:40:21] <Tom_L> then he's on the same server link as us
[21:40:27] <Tom_L> if he can talk
[21:40:40] <hazzy-lab> I am chatting with he on a different chan
[21:40:45] <hazzy-lab> him+
[21:40:49] <Tom_L> oh
[21:40:56] <Tom_L> well tell him to change servers
[21:41:18] <Tom_L> i usually let mine pick it's own
[21:41:23] <hazzy-lab> he is on matrix, don't know it that is possible
[21:42:42] <hazzy1[m]> testing
[21:42:57] <hazzy-lab> hazzy1[m]: can you hear me?
[21:43:15] <Tom_L> no but i can see what you type
[21:43:17] <hazzy-lab> LOL, it does not go thru
[21:43:32] <Lcvette[m]> I see ypu
[21:43:33] <hazzy-lab> strange
[21:43:55] <Lcvette[m]> But I have a spinning wheel up top still
[21:44:09] <hazzy-lab> Lcvette[m]: Do you see this? say 123 if so
[21:44:18] <Tom_L> 456
[21:44:29] <hazzy-lab> xD
[21:45:53] <hazzy-lab> Some how it only works in one direction, we can send messages to here, but don't receive ones from here
[21:46:53] <Tom_L> turn on full duplex :)
[21:47:08] <hazzy-lab> hehe
[21:48:06] <hazzy-lab> oh well, I'm off to eat cake
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