#linuxcnc | Logs for 2018-07-20
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[00:28:15] <Lcvette> Hello
[00:28:41] <Lcvette> Still busted?
[00:30:04] <Lcvette> Anyone getting this?
[00:30:13] <Lcvette> log
[00:30:13] <c-log> Lcvette: Today's Log http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
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[00:32:53] <Lcvette> Somebody broke the internet
[00:35:13] <hazzy-lab> wasn't me, I promise
[00:36:19] <Lcvette> Hey...I see you
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[02:54:19] <Deejay> moin
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[06:23:24] <jthornton> morning
[06:23:34] <XXCoder> yo
[06:25:20] <Tom_L> morning
[06:27:43] <TurBoss[m]> hello
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[06:30:32] <Tom_L> 78°F Hi 100
[06:30:48] <XXCoder> its nice and cloudy here... for now
[06:30:55] <XXCoder> monday will be hot hell
[06:31:11] <Tom_L> walked out last night and my glasses fogged over it's so humid
[06:33:25] <jthornton> I have a ground hog problem... buggers are eating my plants
[06:35:01] <jthornton> gedit 3 is horrible
[06:36:38] <jthornton> linux mint if you create a home/user/bin directory it automagicly adds it to the path
[06:36:47] <jthornton> debian does not play nice
[06:38:14] <jthornton> hmm it is in .profile but it didn't work
[06:38:49] <XXCoder> gedit was awesome
[06:38:51] <XXCoder> now..
[06:40:21] <jthornton> If bash is your login shell, then it will try ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login and ~/.profile in this order. It will however stop at the first one it finds.
[06:40:24] <jthornton> wonderful
[06:47:07] <jthornton> damn 97°F for a high today
[06:50:17] <XXCoder> dang
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[07:02:48] <jthornton> For the moment, you have to ./configure with --prefix=same prefix as you configured pluma with.
[07:02:58] <jthornton> I wonder what gibberish that means
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[07:31:11] <jthornton> hmm qt designer is not available in debian 9
[07:40:30] <jthornton> well I finally found it hidden deep
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[08:34:46] <mase> hi
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[09:29:05] <jthornton> log
[09:29:05] <c-log> jthornton: Today's Log http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[09:35:22] <hazzy-lab> jthornton: It is a shame, all the Gtk2 apps were pretty good, in general the Gtk3 ones are terrible
[09:35:27] <hazzy-lab> did not know it would be possible to mess up gedit so badly
[09:35:47] <jthornton> yea gedit sucks now
[09:35:55] <jthornton> thanks for the uipdate
[09:35:55] <hazzy-lab> I created a launcher for QtDesinger ...
[09:36:10] <hazzy-lab> Sure!
[09:36:18] <jthornton> I finally found it and added mozo so I could edit the menus
[09:36:35] <jthornton> shower time... been playing too long this morning
[09:36:52] <hazzy-lab> alright, breakfast time here
[09:36:54] <hazzy-lab> cu
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[10:41:12] <JT-Shop> pcw_home: what is a Qcount and Transformer in a 7i96?
[10:44:15] <pcw_home> Qcount is a quadrature encoder interface transformer is the old mesaflash name for the 7I96 SSR
[10:46:15] <JT-Shop> 3.3.0-pre is old?
[10:46:46] <pcw_home> latest is like: 8 11 IOPort SSR 0 Out-00 (Out)
[10:48:06] <pcw_home> this was done in the last couple of months
[10:48:52] <JT-Shop> ok thanks
[10:49:30] <pcw_home> hal pins are like: hm2_7i96.0.ssr.00.out-00
[10:50:53] <JT-Shop> thanks
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[11:07:47] <Lcvette[m]1> hello
[11:09:06] <hazzy-lab> hello!
[11:09:14] <hazzy-lab> long time no see
[11:09:16] <Lcvette[m]1> i see you
[11:09:26] <Lcvette[m]1> sweet so its back up and working!
[11:09:33] <hazzy-lab> hurray!
[11:09:44] <Lcvette[m]1> hurray is right!
[11:09:46] <Lcvette[m]1> ok now back to work
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[11:09:56] <Lcvette[m]1> see you after 2pm!
[11:10:12] <hazzy-lab> see you!
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[11:35:28] <methods_> https://www.youtube.com
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[12:05:21] <CaptHindsight> methods_: we all know how that turns out https://www.youtube.com
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[12:07:50] <gregcnc> how have i not seen that?
[12:11:51] <gregcnc> https://imgur.com
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[12:17:40] <gregcnc> https://www.dxv.com
[12:18:06] <JT-Shop> is mesaflash part of linuxcnc-uspace-dev_2.8.0~pre1 ?
[12:18:47] <Beachbumpete1> those look sweet man
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[12:23:45] <IchGucksLive> hi all
[12:24:28] <IchGucksLive> i killed a PWM DC converter 15000 has been ok calling 18000 blow up
[12:24:34] <IchGucksLive> real smoke
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[12:26:15] <gregcnc> spindle drive?
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[12:30:13] <IchGucksLive> yes
[12:30:30] <IchGucksLive> 4Eur
[12:30:37] <IchGucksLive> so noo factor bur Why
[12:31:10] <gregcnc> piece of shit syndrome?
[12:31:23] <IchGucksLive> ofcause
[12:31:38] <IchGucksLive> and replacement by 8weeks delivery
[12:31:58] <gregcnc> always buy a spare and a spare spare
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[12:33:04] <IchGucksLive> i got 15 but need 20
[12:33:29] <IchGucksLive> the newer ones are more crap then the older
[12:33:30] <gregcnc> in that case spare^10
[12:34:09] <gregcnc> but they are almost free so if you buy enough maybe they will just give them away
[12:35:36] <IchGucksLive> i emtied 100m roll of cable
[12:35:54] <IchGucksLive> 20meter of wire chain
[12:36:13] <IchGucksLive> i need a direct flight schenzen germany
[12:36:29] <IchGucksLive> better to order in Taiwan
[12:36:35] <IchGucksLive> 12 Days
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[12:45:33] <jthornton> pcw_home, Mesaflash version 3.3.0~pre (built on Jun 28 2017 03:52:31 is the only one I can find
[12:52:07] <pcw_home> pretty sure I built from source: https://github.com
[12:53:46] <pcw_home> mesaflash needs --version
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[13:00:22] <IchGucksLive> thunderstorms around here
[13:00:47] <IchGucksLive> and many to come tonight
[13:00:58] <IchGucksLive> 35 deg in forcast next week
[13:01:11] <IchGucksLive> so lots of cnc stuff in basement
[13:01:27] <IchGucksLive> im off Gn8
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[13:10:50] <JT-Shop> looks like the latest commit was 2-27-18
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[14:33:03] <Tecan> https://github.com
[14:33:11] <Tecan> rsa encrypted gcode
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[14:57:06] <cradek> Tecan: horrifying
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[15:38:34] <hazzy-lab> Tecan: That kinda nonsense is why I stopped using repetier
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[17:02:21] <Deejay> re
[17:05:12] <Tecan> i think it would be awesome to licence a parts for a set ammount of prints or till the signing expires
[17:05:31] <Tecan> i think rsa keys expire too
[17:06:35] <cradek> Tecan: horrifying
[17:09:10] <Tecan> because you cant see what your printing and they might export the limits too large ?
[17:09:58] <hazzy-lab> Deejay: wb
[17:10:24] <cradek> because it's immoral to write software that abuses users
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[17:30:30] <Deejay> gn8
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[17:45:12] <ve7it> cradek, missed the jist of the repetier comments... whats up? I just started using repetierHost
[17:54:56] <hazzy-lab> ve7it: https://github.com
[17:59:39] <ve7it> hazzy-lab, thanks
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[19:17:23] <ecstasy> What motion controller do you all advise?
[19:18:06] <pcw_mesa> Bugatti?
[19:19:40] <ecstasy> cmon, I'm serious
[19:21:46] <gloops> for what?
[19:25:34] <XXCoder> I guess for jog pendant
[19:26:01] <XXCoder> or maybe he means something like MESA or tb6600s
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[19:29:55] <CaptHindsight> ecstasy: I use Linux CNC
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[19:30:24] <XXCoder> not surpising really what with channel name and all :)
[19:30:30] <CaptHindsight> mostly on x86 PC's
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[19:30:51] <CaptHindsight> well there's been some mach support here lately
[19:31:12] <CaptHindsight> and GRBL sure gets mentioned too much
[19:31:19] <ecstasy> what about UCCNC
[19:32:00] <ecstasy> the board that sends steps to the motors and gets the gcode from the pc
[19:32:06] <CaptHindsight> i have a jingle for that IC UI we all C for CNC
[19:32:19] <CaptHindsight> opps IC UC
[19:32:44] <CaptHindsight> https://cncdrive.com
[19:33:09] <CaptHindsight> ecstasy: never done used UCCNC meself
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[19:34:18] <CaptHindsight> Price: 55.00€ UCCNC license key
[19:35:16] <CaptHindsight> http://www.shop.cncdrive.com
[19:35:19] <hazzy-lab> LOL Capt, that jingle is hilarious xD
[19:35:50] <CaptHindsight> \o/
[19:36:35] <gloops> ecstacy use Linuxcnc
[19:37:05] <gloops> UCCNC IS linuxcnc
[19:38:07] <hazzy-lab> gloops: it is?
[19:38:08] <CaptHindsight> looks like they sell cheap gears, screws and bearings with little specifications
[19:38:49] <mase> Britian want accress to EU market
[19:39:11] <mase> I say these boy don t belong to the special club
[19:39:19] <mase> let them pay for that
[19:39:37] <mase> It s gonna be fantastic
[19:39:47] <mase> Build a wall around england
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[19:39:52] <CaptHindsight> http://www.shop.cncdrive.com Base price starts at 5750Euros.
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[19:40:39] <CaptHindsight> mase: well everybody just can't get along
[19:42:13] <CaptHindsight> http://www.shop.cncdrive.com
[19:42:33] <CaptHindsight> Hungarian, ah I once had a phrasebook from there :)
[19:42:40] <gloops> mase we arent paying anything
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[19:43:45] <gloops> the EU will be ground away between the twin wheels of debt and inflation
[19:44:51] <CaptHindsight> don't forget the wheels of progress
[19:46:09] <gloops> progress is relative
[19:46:46] <CaptHindsight> Blessing in disguise
[19:47:23] <gloops> we're not playing, we're not paying, we're not staying!
[19:48:09] <CaptHindsight> bit off more than they can chew
[19:49:02] <gloops> UK today announced record Industry sector sales
[19:49:43] <gloops> we also export more books than anyone else in the world, that was announced too
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[19:51:34] <hazzy-lab> gloops: maybe just jealous you all are getting out before the ship sinks ...
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[19:52:57] <gloops> hazzy-lab well they had the chance to save themselves but they wouldnt listen to us
[19:53:02] <gloops> anyway bedtime here
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[20:53:28] <XXCoder> new p[ro,otive tech
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[21:55:30] <skunkworks> sloooowly squaring up the cast...
[21:57:18] * skunkworks loves linuxcnc
[22:06:00] <Tom_L> got more pics?
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[22:26:47] <roycroft> well, that was interesting
[22:26:58] <roycroft> i finally took a trip to the local maker space during their "open hack" night
[22:27:14] <roycroft> it was mostly as i expected - a big pile of junk, mostly in disarray
[22:27:24] <roycroft> but they had a few machines that were halfway decent
[22:27:40] <roycroft> including an old, vintage '80s bridgeport mill with an original bridgeport cnc setup
[22:27:53] <Tom_L> boss5?
[22:27:56] <Tom_L> boss9?
[22:28:00] <roycroft> it wasn't powered up
[22:28:05] <roycroft> and nobody knew how to use it
[22:28:14] <roycroft> but they told me i could have at it if i want
[22:28:35] <roycroft> there is allegedly some documentation on it
[22:28:36] <Tom_L> current loop interface
[22:28:52] <roycroft> it has a flood coolant system, but the machine is freestanding
[22:28:53] <Tom_L> i had books on it but sent them to archivist because i thought i'd never need em
[22:29:07] <roycroft> the coolant would spray all over the floor
[22:29:18] <Tom_L> turn it down
[22:29:37] <roycroft> i did not see any recovery lines
[22:29:50] <Tom_L> standard bridgeport drain hole?
[22:29:50] <roycroft> it's likely incomplete
[22:30:13] <roycroft> i saw no drain line connected to it
[22:31:00] <roycroft> but it's interesting enough, and i have some parts to make that are 24" long, much longer than my little mill/drill can handle in one go, that i might join the maker space and spend some time on that bridgeport
[22:31:41] <roycroft> the person who was showing it to me said "this is so old you have to boot into dos and then type a command at the dos prompt to run the cnc. do you know what dos is?"
[22:31:55] <roycroft> i said "look at me. i'm much older than dos"
[22:32:09] <Tom_L> i had the books on the bridgeport interface too
[22:32:24] <Tom_L> i forget what it was called now
[22:32:34] <roycroft> next time i go over there i'll look for the docs they have
[22:32:53] <roycroft> if i join the maker space i'll certainly volunteer to take the docs home and scan them
[22:33:01] <roycroft> so that the maker space can have an electronic version
[22:33:08] <Tom_L> when andy was here at the wichita fest years ago i sent them back with him to give to archivist
[22:33:29] <roycroft> it will be interesting to see what he has
[22:33:40] <Tom_L> my bud's was a boss5
[22:33:56] <roycroft> if the docs the maker space have are different, and i get to scan them, i'd be happy to send a copy to archivist
[22:34:09] <roycroft> i'll find out soon
[22:34:43] <roycroft> at first i was bummed that it was cnc, actually
[22:35:03] <roycroft> i don't really need cnc right now - the features i need to machine are pretty simple
[22:35:13] <roycroft> but i can use it dro mode and jog
[22:35:21] <roycroft> and actually cnc might be useful
[22:35:28] <roycroft> i'm making weird parts
[22:35:36] <roycroft> using american customary material
[22:35:50] <Tom_L> the arcs on that are in quadrants
[22:36:02] <roycroft> the features are 3/8" holes with chamfers and countersinks
[22:36:04] <Tom_L> we had a bit of fun figuring that out iirc
[22:36:05] <roycroft> but spaced at 32mm
[22:36:30] <roycroft> so if i could flip back and forth between american customary and metric that would make life easier
[22:36:46] <Tom_L> just convert one to the other
[22:37:01] <roycroft> that's what i'm doing now in cad
[22:37:08] <roycroft> but conversions are not always exact
[22:37:37] <roycroft> which means the easy way of doing it, by doing relative movements, would result in cumulative error
[22:38:03] <roycroft> but doing absolute movements are no problem for converted units
[22:38:22] <roycroft> if it's cnc that doesn't matter as much as doing it manually
[22:38:53] <roycroft> 32mm is 1.2598425196850394in
[22:39:29] <roycroft> over the course of 20 holes the rounding error would be significant
[22:39:51] <roycroft> anyway, i'll sort it all out once i get the docs and spent some time with the mill
[22:40:28] <roycroft> this might also inspire me to finally do the cnc conversion of my little mill-drill, since i would have a second mill to work on while making parts for the conversion
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