#linuxcnc | Logs for 2018-07-29
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[00:07:12] <Wolf_> looks like I’m going to be learning how to scrape in machines… broke down and ordered the conelly book
[00:07:15] <hazzy-lab> Wolf_: May I ask what book? connelly machine tool reconditioning book
[00:07:21] <Wolf_> yup
[00:07:28] <hazzy-lab> I guessed it, lol
[00:07:35] <hazzy-lab> Only book worth that much
[00:07:51] <Wolf_> thats used “good” condition =/
[00:07:55] <XXCoder> andypugh: btw top right vertical segement of third digit (10s seconds digit) dont work
[00:08:06] <roycroft> teh scraping book
[00:08:41] <hazzy-lab> the bible
[00:09:29] <roycroft> i am happy today
[00:09:41] <roycroft> i've been out of szechuan peppers for many many months
[00:09:48] <roycroft> because my local supplier were out
[00:09:55] <roycroft> they just came back in stock
[00:10:12] <roycroft> and i had a wonderful dinner that was spiced nicely
[00:10:22] <Wolf_> figured I should get that before going nuts and buying tools and whatnot to try to recondition the surface grinder ways
[00:10:24] <XXCoder> mcmansions. gonna love em. lol https://boingboing.net
[00:11:05] <XXCoder> oh it sold montg ago. LOL
[00:11:14] <Wolf_> and I guess the X2 is getting scraped lol
[00:11:17] <hazzy-lab> angle grinder would make quick work of that
[00:11:37] <Wolf_> lol
[00:11:48] <XXCoder> yeah slight issue of structural. nah you'll be fine
[00:12:24] <Wolf_> porta-bandsaw
[00:13:52] <hazzy-lab> haha
[00:16:09] <XXCoder> apparently time bandits will be a tv show.
[00:22:17] <Wolf_> anyone looking for a surface plate? https://www.ebay.com
[00:23:08] <XXCoder> lol
[00:23:14] <hazzy-lab> Wolf_: I think OxTools is making repros of those
[00:23:26] <Wolf_> really? lol
[00:23:27] <XXCoder> wonder what its rated at :P
[00:23:29] <hazzy-lab> Or is that Robin R?
[00:24:51] <roycroft> surface plate?
[00:24:58] <roycroft> do you mean a "precision machine"?
[00:25:04] <roycroft> https://eugene.craigslist.org
[00:26:08] <roycroft> i was thinking of ringing him up and offering $400 for the thign
[00:27:10] <XXCoder> I want to make one of surface into kitchen island. very definitely retired and out of spec one though. no cracks/massive chips though lol
[00:29:26] <roycroft> that would be a great kitchen island
[00:29:32] <roycroft> for $400
[00:29:51] <XXCoder> yeah. still using surface stand so its tuneable to be very flat so nothing rolls
[00:30:07] <XXCoder> retired one for $400? ehh doubt it
[00:31:13] <roycroft> that one may be toolroom grade
[00:31:16] <roycroft> i don't know
[00:31:26] <roycroft> but no craigslist surface plate is worth $3700
[00:31:30] <roycroft> no matter how big and nice
[00:31:32] <XXCoder> indeed
[00:31:42] <XXCoder> how do we know its still rated on whatever sticker it has
[00:31:53] <Wolf_> only if it has a in date sticker on it
[00:31:57] <roycroft> especially when you call it a "precision machine", and not a surface plate
[00:32:10] <XXCoder> Wolf_: is it real sticker?
[00:32:37] <Wolf_> IF
[00:32:50] <roycroft> if a sticker is the difference between $400 and $3700 even i would be tempted to make a sticker
[00:32:56] <roycroft> and i'm a very honest person
[00:33:05] <XXCoder> yeah
[00:33:20] <Wolf_> sticker means you can call the company that certified it
[00:33:37] <XXCoder> it may be copy of real one at company
[00:34:00] <roycroft> i can register a domain for $15 and buy a voip number for $1.50 :)
[00:34:24] <XXCoder> pretty easy enough to prove company exists to goverment
[00:34:32] <XXCoder> if it dont then its fake
[00:34:41] <roycroft> i can set up an LLC for $100
[00:34:45] <roycroft> if it came to that
[00:35:11] <XXCoder> yeah though I'd be suspectious of surface sold from company thats few days old
[00:36:01] <roycroft> and we're rapidly approaching a point of diminishing returns on the effort required to perpetrate the scam
[00:36:18] <XXCoder> indeed
[00:36:20] <Wolf_> if I was shelling out almost $4k for a plate, I would call the company that certified it and find out how much they would charge to come check it before I paid
[00:36:31] <roycroft> $3300 is a fair amount of money, but not enough to go to the trouble of setting up a phony business
[00:36:40] <Wolf_> kinda hard to fake it then
[00:36:44] <XXCoder> or if youre working for company that has surface inspectors, just bring one of coworker
[00:37:23] <roycroft> probably it would be better to just insist the seller have it inspected before you pay
[00:37:36] <Wolf_> or that
[00:37:43] <XXCoder> how much is inspection anyway
[00:37:44] <roycroft> it should only cost $250 or so to have it inspected
[00:38:03] <Wolf_> I kinda want to learn more about using a autocollimator
[00:38:43] <roycroft> more if it has to be flattened, of course
[00:44:27] <Wolf_> which of course I have a case of project snowballing starting up
[00:49:52] <Wolf_> like I need to fix a kingpin on one of my forklifts and move it to my other shop…
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[03:07:25] <Deejay> moin
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[03:36:10] <holzjunkie> guten morgen
[03:37:01] <Deejay> morning
[03:40:34] <holzjunkie> deejay where you from?
[03:40:45] <Deejay> NRW
[03:41:09] <Deejay> da wo es nie regnet :/
[03:42:27] <holzjunkie> ah also auch typsch deutsch immer meckern übers wetter ;-)
[03:42:36] <Deejay> normal ;) ich bin bauer, ich darf das ;)
[03:43:03] <holzjunkie> ein Agratechnischer Großflächben designer
[03:43:41] <holzjunkie> weißt du wie ich einer Funktion einen pin zuordnen kann ?
[03:44:17] <Deejay> nee, leider nicht. irgendwie mit irgenwelchen ini-files rumfummeln ;)
[03:44:31] <Deejay> hab mir meins damals nur auf 'standard' eingerichtet und seitdem läufts ;)
[03:44:45] <holzjunkie> ach schade
[03:44:57] <holzjunkie> ich dachte das könnte selbst ich als dau schaffen
[03:45:12] <Deejay> schon versucht? ;)
[03:46:30] <holzjunkie> mal sehen was ich heute schaffe will irgendwie meine Kühlung und meine Werkzeugspannung realisieren
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[04:05:55] <XXCoder> pretty cool https://www.youtube.com
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[04:28:19] <IchGucksLive> morning from Hot dry germanya
[04:28:43] <IchGucksLive> holzjunkie, noch da
[04:28:52] <XXCoder> hey from hot as hell tacoma
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[04:33:56] <IchGucksLive> hi Sairon
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[04:45:55] <IchGucksLive> off 2 garden
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[05:11:18] <CaptHindsight> on 2 beer garden
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[06:02:18] <miss0r> o/
[06:14:54] <jthornton> morning
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[06:56:09] <Tom_itx> morning
[06:56:31] <miss0r> mornin'
[06:56:52] * miss0r is cleaning the mill after ALOT of alu work.
[06:57:09] <miss0r> 11mm doc makes some nice chips for just shoveling away
[07:00:09] <fragalot> Hey
[07:00:30] <miss0r> \o/
[07:00:34] <miss0r> welcome back
[07:01:06] <fragalot> ty
[07:01:19] <miss0r> Sadly I have to run in 10 mins :]
[07:01:33] <fragalot> quite a shock to go from 10°C to 38°C, lol
[07:01:45] <miss0r> yeah lol
[07:01:50] <miss0r> Welcome to my world !
[07:02:04] <fragalot> :D
[07:02:06] <miss0r> The past few days I've been arc welding aluminium 6 hours a day.
[07:02:47] <miss0r> well.. not 38, but one day it was 33c on one side and alot hotter on the arc side :]
[07:03:26] <fragalot> hehe
[07:03:31] <fragalot> what'cha making
[07:04:32] <miss0r> a transport cage proto-type for some stage lighting equipment
[07:05:41] <miss0r> (Yes, it happened - I have photos) Uploading it now
[07:05:48] <miss0r> https://imgur.com
[07:07:24] <miss0r> I managed to get the old mill to do something like trapezoidal milling - I'm unsure if that is the word: but moving forward in arcs in full DOC, only taking 1mm at a time
[07:08:04] <miss0r> Are you about ready to get back to building that cnc of yours? :D
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[07:14:41] <miss0r> I'll catch'ya another time. see you around
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[08:20:04] <holzjunkie> how is the easyest way to ad a button for tool clamp
[08:27:19] <JT-Shop> physical button or on screen button?
[08:27:42] <holzjunkie> on screen
[08:28:02] <JT-Shop> pyvcp
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[08:34:09] <jthornton> holzjunkie, you need a toggle on/off button?
[08:34:35] <jthornton> https://forum.linuxcnc.org
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[10:59:17] <IchGucksLive> hi all
[11:02:02] <IchGucksLive> holzjunkie, noch da
[11:02:24] <holzjunkie> IchGucksLive: jupp schwer am werkeln
[11:02:41] <IchGucksLive> was wilste denn da wieder verfummeln
[11:02:49] <IchGucksLive> wasser an aus oder wie
[11:02:58] <IchGucksLive> mit oder ohne doppelt button
[11:03:03] <IchGucksLive> M8 und ....
[11:04:23] <holzjunkie> IchGucksLive: ne wasser hab ich schon
[11:04:23] <holzjunkie> markus macht grad den wz wechsel fertig
[11:04:28] <IchGucksLive> holzjunkie, soweit es geht alles in die Postgui rein
[11:04:35] <IchGucksLive> ok
[11:05:58] <holzjunkie> IchGucksLive: ich habs aufgegeben markus ist da jetzt dran!
[11:06:29] <IchGucksLive> bei der hitze
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[11:25:40] <IchGucksLive> im off BYE
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[11:47:28] <Tecan> would you cnc a xylophone ?
[11:47:47] <Tecan> https://www.youtube.com this guy has large one
[11:49:08] <hazzy-m> Tecan: That would be pretty neat
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[11:51:37] <Tecan> its probably material specific for sizes though
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[12:19:44] <jesseg> Good Morning/Evening
[12:20:16] <jesseg> What do you guys think are the chances of me being able to use bridgeport parts on a 1996 era Taiwanese BP clone?
[12:20:46] <Wolf_> depends on the part
[12:23:02] <jesseg> https://www.machinerypartsdepot.com
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[12:24:54] <Wolf_> not likely
[12:25:07] <Wolf_> unless its a 1:1 clone
[12:25:10] <jesseg> looks about right but yeah who knows :P
[12:25:20] <jesseg> what's the purpose of the overdrive clutch?
[12:25:36] <jesseg> is it designed to actually prevent stuff from breaking ?
[12:26:16] <Wolf_> no idea, I dont have a BP lol
[12:26:26] <jesseg> lol roger
[12:33:30] <jesseg> ahh found a patent... yes the overload clutch is to prevent the machine from breaking itself during a downward power feed.
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[13:17:10] <IchGucksLive> Hi
[13:17:26] <Abrafax> Hallo IchGucksLive gibt's einen Grund warum fast alle Videos zum Thema Freecad von deinem YouTube Kanal verschwunden sind?
[13:18:05] <IchGucksLive> die version 0.17 funktioniert anders
[13:18:25] <IchGucksLive> und mit 0.18 wirds noch mal schlimmer
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[13:25:02] <IchGucksLive> Abrafax, auch ist die americaniche systemgrundlage nicht so mein ding
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[13:40:45] <IchGucksLive> Abrafax, Fast alle hab ich da welhe vergessen ?
[13:41:59] <IchGucksLive> ah den plasma das bleibt aber
[13:42:15] <IchGucksLive> ist nur step file öffnen
[13:43:52] <IchGucksLive> Gn8
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[15:42:20] <CaptHindsight> LCNC is not doing enough for vendor lock-in :)
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[15:43:22] <CaptHindsight> I had a discussion with some owners of SLA that complained about the lack of flexibility to use 3rd party materials
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[15:44:34] <CaptHindsight> they actually prefer a set it and forget it interface
[15:48:01] <robotustra> https://imgur.com
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[15:56:12] <CaptHindsight> stepper or servo motor with attached driver?
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[16:09:52] <robotustra> yes
[16:10:11] <robotustra> chinisium servo
[16:10:36] <robotustra> tested, looks like work ok
[16:12:15] <robotustra> iHSS57
[16:12:37] <robotustra> not my test: https://www.youtube.com
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[16:19:19] <andypugh> Oh, you can’t trus that test, they have used the wrong type of tape on the motor shafts :-)
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[16:28:33] <roycroft> i have a very basic question about cnc milling (i probably have a lot, but i'll try not to ask too many)
[16:28:43] <robotustra> I know, right tame color should be blue
[16:28:50] <roycroft> the owner of the bridgeport i'll be using told me to always touch off on the workpiece
[16:29:18] <roycroft> i have some random chunks of metal that i need to square and make to fairly precise size
[16:29:27] <roycroft> i'll be making a holder for the parts as i machine them
[16:29:57] <roycroft> my thought was to clamp the holder down on the mill bed, take a light pass on the two registration surfaces of the older, and touch off on those
[16:30:27] <roycroft> that way i would not have to square my parts, measure them, and then calculate what size to cut them down to
[16:30:32] <roycroft> does that make sense?
[16:31:08] <roycroft> so i'd essentially be touching off on the bottom of the piece and not the top for the z
[16:31:31] <roycroft> the owner of the mill told me that cnc "doesn't work that way"
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[16:32:41] <XXCoder> uhh you can set z to whatever you want, and set program to that
[16:32:49] <roycroft> that's what i thought
[16:33:05] <XXCoder> make sure your program and your part setup agrees though! or CRASH!!
[16:33:38] <roycroft> yes, of course
[16:33:58] <roycroft> and i plan on running my first programs without parts or tooling to make sure i didn't do anything really stupid
[16:34:00] <XXCoder> bottom is also more repeatable
[16:34:06] <andypugh> It’s all just numbers. The CNC machine has no opinion on what the numbers mean.
[16:34:08] <roycroft> yes, that's what i'm thinking
[16:34:18] <XXCoder> expecially if you have more than one part to run
[16:34:25] <andypugh> Use them any way that makes sense to you.
[16:34:33] <roycroft> and my approach would make tramming the holder a lot easier
[16:34:53] <roycroft> i'll add a bar that will sit in the t track of the mill bed to roughly locat it
[16:34:56] <roycroft> clamp it down
[16:34:59] <XXCoder> I personally prefer common reference point, but you can do whatever as long as reference point agrees on part z and tool lengths, and program z and part z agrees
[16:35:03] <roycroft> then take a light z pass and a light x pass
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[16:35:14] <roycroft> and it will be trammed without measuring
[16:35:46] <andypugh> And use that _max_velocity_ slider in the GUI so that the initial move on the first run is slow enough to hit e-stop in time.
[16:36:03] <XXCoder> yeah
[16:36:08] <roycroft> yes, i'll do it really slowly
[16:36:21] <roycroft> i remember the manual shows how to set the velocity
[16:36:27] <XXCoder> I like it when machine have rapid dial and run dial seperate
[16:36:41] <XXCoder> so I can set run to zero % and rapid to whatever I feel and change as its moving in
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[16:37:07] <XXCoder> when it stops (or I stop it because it looks like will hit) I can then set rapid to zero and slowly turn up run speed
[16:37:31] <XXCoder> (assuming it seems correct)
[16:37:46] <roycroft> this is an old bridgeport with a boss system running dx32
[16:39:00] <roycroft> the problem is the guy who owns it barely understands it himself, and is trying to insist that i use fusion 360 for all my part designs and gcode generation, because that's what he uses and he hasn't crashed the mill
[16:39:47] <roycroft> i'm planning on writing gcode by hand at first and doing test runs on linuxcnc in the axis simulator
[16:39:56] <roycroft> and the guy does not like that
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[16:50:55] <andypugh> Ah, so the machine does not actually run LinuxCNC?
[16:51:35] <CaptHindsight> he worried about his machine on loan to the makerspace...
[16:52:12] <CaptHindsight> makes sense, he thinks using it his way makes it crash proof
[16:52:54] <CaptHindsight> why maker spaces may appear to be a nice thing, but the details tend to ruin all the fun
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[17:02:47] <Deejay> gn8
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[17:06:57] <CaptHindsight> the makerspace in Chicago has an open CNC meeting https://www.meetup.com
[17:07:14] <CaptHindsight> LCNC is treated like the plague
[17:10:40] <CaptHindsight> https://wiki.pumpingstationone.org they cannibalized it vs converted to LCNC
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[17:16:01] <robotustra> hm, it's interesting what is the controller this guy is using? https://www.youtube.com
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[17:17:50] <CaptHindsight> https://cncdrive.com mit das softwarez
[17:19:01] <CaptHindsight> https://cncdrive.com mit dis hardware
[17:22:28] <robotustra> ah,
[17:22:34] <robotustra> thanks
[17:22:35] <CaptHindsight> https://news.samsung.com
[17:24:16] <CaptHindsight> probably won't be available for phones since they don't break as easily
[17:24:52] <robotustra> not phones but microcomputers
[17:25:17] <robotustra> microcomputers with the options of phone
[17:25:30] <beachbumpete1> I really don't understand the bias against linuxCNC but it seems that way in those makerspaces for some odd reason
[17:26:06] <andypugh> London Hackspace has no objection to LinuxCNC, as far as i can see.
[17:26:11] <robotustra> as I told, linuxcnc - it's a religion
[17:27:05] <andypugh> That isn’t true. I have even been known to recommend Mach3 on the forum.
[17:27:41] <andypugh> (Adb not _always_ when I just want rid of someone and their problems)
[17:28:06] <robotustra> after more than 20 years of holy wars windows vs linux I'm really don't care wich system to use
[17:28:18] <CaptHindsight> I'd rather not use features then have to add them to other control software
[17:28:40] <robotustra> I use Mach3 on my cnc mill, but will use linuxcnc on the lathe
[17:28:50] <andypugh> A lot of folk don’t “get” that there is nothing “in it” for us if LinuxCNC has more users. Stupid users, for example, are a positive nuisance.
[17:28:53] <beachbumpete1> Cannot recommend Mach3 whatsoever...used it for awhile never goin back
[17:29:19] <robotustra> stupid users need a pretty UI
[17:29:26] <CaptHindsight> and if I still need to add features I'd rather add to LCNC than reinvent the wheel
[17:29:31] <robotustra> which lcnc does not have
[17:30:04] <CaptHindsight> beauty is in the eye of the beholder
[17:30:28] <andypugh> I reckon Mach3 on a stepper mill is fine, lots of people make good parts that way. Especially if you stop using Mach as the controller and put a Smoothstepper on.
[17:31:14] <robotustra> as for me Mach3 interface is not so pretty
[17:31:43] <andypugh> https://forum.linuxcnc.org
[17:32:15] <andypugh> (Though that it an Inkscape UI, no code underneath it at all)
[17:32:16] <robotustra> andypugh, it's not ready yet?
[17:32:32] <andypugh> It’s not even a program, it’s just graphics.
[17:32:46] <robotustra> I know
[17:32:50] <beachbumpete1> Woah that looks great
[17:32:53] <robotustra> it's a "plan"
[17:33:36] <andypugh> It’s not a bad way to start, we haven’t tried that before. Most GUI makers have been coders who add the controls as they think of them, and put them where they fit ;-)
[17:33:43] <CaptHindsight> https://ibin.co axisface
[17:34:18] <robotustra> for instance I would add isometric view for 3d vindow instead of perspective view
[17:34:35] <andypugh> I have to say rather lost interest when I told her that 10 significant figures was pointless, and she countered that a sensible number looked bad.
[17:36:19] <CaptHindsight> one of these days I'd like to get LCNC with Vulkan so the 3D previews can be rendered in high res and full color
[17:36:30] <robotustra> reasonable number of decimal digits is 4-5
[17:36:42] <robotustra> and it should be in config
[17:37:08] <robotustra> CaptHindsight, what is vulcan?
[17:37:53] <CaptHindsight> robotustra: GPU API https://www.youtube.com
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[17:45:58] <CaptHindsight> andypugh: form over function :)
[17:46:57] <CaptHindsight> maybe counting molecules is the way to go?
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[17:49:29] <CaptHindsight> 0.000000001 inch is ~.0254nm, so about the diameter of a hydrogen atom
[17:49:38] <andypugh> The diameter of an aluminium atom is 0.000000184mm
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[17:51:08] <andypugh> The display would show that as 0.0000001840
[17:51:19] <CaptHindsight> if the digits were reduced it would still look fine
[17:51:21] <andypugh> ie, a whole place of decimals _more_
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[17:52:33] <CaptHindsight> in fact she has the area under the display split into 3 different size columns now
[17:53:55] <CaptHindsight> I could also argue that the buttons have too many different sizes
[17:54:02] <CaptHindsight> and shapes
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[18:03:12] <robotustra> the main stupidity of the useless decimal digits - is the long text edits which just occupy space on the screen
[18:10:00] <robotustra> eine kleine motoren https://www.youtube.com
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[18:24:44] <robotustra> what is Acc02 button on this pic: https://forum.linuxcnc.org
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[18:26:56] <XXCoder> so many lights settings
[18:27:03] <XXCoder> and/or colors
[18:29:30] <robotustra> this color map is accaptable IMHO
[18:30:54] <robotustra> but why the color setup should be inside controller?
[18:32:07] <robotustra> normally settings of the element's color is done by 1 combo box and 1 color selector
[18:32:41] <robotustra> combo box contains the list of items
[18:35:18] <robotustra> is this UI for 2.8 will be also for lathes?
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[18:37:52] <grotius> Acc02, but also Acc03,04,05,06 exist
[18:38:06] <robotustra> what is it for usually?
[18:38:30] <grotius> i think it is a output
[18:39:27] <robotustra> one more silly question, if you are using flood cooling, do you need a Mist button at the same time?
[18:40:13] <grotius> Yes, you are right.
[18:40:27] <robotustra> I'm thinking in terms of useless buttons while real operating
[18:40:57] <robotustra> it it would be possible to remove them or disable to avoid accidental pressing
[18:40:58] <grotius> I like you dude
[18:41:56] <grotius> i see the gremlin screen is still used without new improvments
[18:43:45] <grotius> This day's the Gremlin screen must react when line is clicked. Then you can add technology to the line for plasma and laser bevel operations
[18:45:35] <robotustra> what is Gremlin line?
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[19:02:10] <grotius> Gremlin is name for the screen where you see the g-code visual, if you click on a line in the gremlin screen, it can react to the g-code line if you have coded this.
[19:02:56] <robotustra> ok
[19:03:34] <grotius> after you triggered the line, you can modify your g-code text file with python code to add some interpolation
[19:04:49] <robotustra> so first pyton line is interpreted and it generates the g-code line to be executed?
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[19:15:28] <grotius> you have a 2d g-code file loaded. Then you click on the lines and add the 3d information
[19:22:44] <hazzy-lab> grotius: ChrisM and I have done a lot of work on making an updated Qt based gremlin, it loads files about 15 times faster then the Gtk gremlin and hopefully it will support touch gestures soon for touch screen use
[19:23:40] <hazzy-lab> That is an interesting idea you have, so you would like to be able to set Z height for a selected line?
[19:24:33] <hazzy-lab> In what scenario would that be useful?
[19:24:37] <grotius> No, it go's much further
[19:26:26] <grotius> If you have G01 X100 Y100, after clicking the line and add the technologie you have a output like : G01 X100 Y100 A45
[19:27:02] <grotius> I have seen this on software used by microstep
[19:27:10] <Tom_itx> still sounds like a tedious edit
[19:28:03] <hazzy-lab> That would be relatively easy to implement with the current gremlin, but what is the point? Shouldn't that be the CAMs job?
[19:28:21] <Tom_itx> yeah
[19:28:23] <grotius> Yes, normally, but cam is very expensive
[19:29:16] <Tom_itx> hazzy-dev mist/flood could be a toggle?
[19:29:36] <Tom_itx> no you probably don't need both
[19:31:07] <hazzy-lab> Tom_itx: Yeah, you could select a line and have it turn the flood on at that point, I guess that might be useful, but it is also a very easy code edit
[19:32:51] <hazzy-lab> grotius: I don't see how it helps, if you have a file in gremlin it had to be generated somehow, so why not just write/generate it correctly to begin with?
[19:33:35] <Tom_itx> maybe he wants a conversational control
[19:34:41] <grotius> Hmm, i working on dxf import in python. And wanted to make a cam program. But i need a few more month's experience. haha
[19:34:48] <hazzy-lab> Tom_itx: Yeah, I guess so, but that seems like a combersome way to do it :)
[19:35:16] <Tom_itx> off to the shop...
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[19:37:14] <hazzy-lab> grotius: It will certainly be possible to select a line in gremlin and have the gcode editor scroll to that line, that does make editing easier, as you have a visual clue as to what part of the code you are changing
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[19:37:41] <hazzy-lab> Hello KimK
[19:38:18] <hazzy-lab> Did you ever get the INI file syntax highlighting to work properly in gedit?
[19:41:58] <grotius> thank you hazzy and others. have a good day !
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[19:42:19] <Tom_L> how does run from line work? can you select a line upon start of a file and have it start there?
[19:42:56] <Tom_L> i had that pop up accidentally on me once
[19:45:22] <robotustra> is it the right place to clone the code? https://github.com
[19:45:53] <hazzy-lab> robotustra: yes
[19:45:57] <KimK> Hi hazzy-lab, that was a misfire on my part, I had the wrong highlight type selected, etc., and I wasn't sure what versions of everything I have, so I'll let it go for now. I'll look at it again eventually with a clean slate.
[19:47:06] <KimK> AFK
[19:47:31] <hazzy-lab> Tom_L: Not sure how to do that yet, probably very similar to axis, select the line in the preview (or in the file) and then hit run form here. It's a little too easy to do by accident in axis I think ...
[19:48:04] <hazzy-lab> KimK: excellent!
[19:54:41] <CaptHindsight> Conversational Programming is a new, radical, patent-pending programming paradigm to help you with programming.
[19:55:42] <hazzy-lab> New, radical? It's been around in basically the same form since the 80s
[19:56:11] <CaptHindsight> http://www.agentsheets.com
[19:58:33] <hazzy-lab> hahaha Capt, looks like NC machines were way ahead of the game
[19:58:49] <andypugh> 2010 and an older Mac interface (which I thought looked nicer)
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[20:34:37] <jesseg> anyone here know of a good place to order bridgeport mill head parts?
[20:34:41] <jesseg> like for older mills
[20:38:17] <Roguish> jesseg: try these guys. i used them about 10 years ago for Series II parts.
[20:38:45] <jesseg> Roguish, thanks! URL?
[20:38:55] <Roguish> http://hallidie.com
[20:38:58] <Roguish> sorry
[20:39:02] <jesseg> thanks!
[20:39:05] <Roguish> brain fade
[20:43:27] <robotustra> what library contains Tcl_Init?
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[21:08:52] <pcw_home> Not what I expect when people say ICE car: https://www.youtube.com
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[21:14:56] <robotustra> nICE car
[21:17:13] <robotustra> ok, it was in tcl-dev package
[21:18:17] <XXCoder> pcw_home: https://www.youtube.com
[21:18:53] <XXCoder> hes not villian because of things he did.. its his puns
[21:21:45] <roycroft> it's 35 degrees here at 6:30 at night
[21:21:48] <roycroft> i could use an ice car
[21:21:52] <roycroft> i'd just go sit in it
[21:21:57] <roycroft> igloo on wheels
[21:22:13] <XXCoder> 87f here
[21:22:16] <XXCoder> not outside
[21:22:21] <XXCoder> 91f outside I think
[21:23:04] <roycroft> will the russians ever discover fuel injection?
[21:24:17] <hazzy-m> jesseg: I generally get BP parts from H&W, they are not as cheap as some, but have good selection and their customer support is bar none
[21:24:44] <roycroft> 35 degrees is 95f
[21:25:49] <roycroft> that ice car must be pretty heavy
[21:26:55] <pcw_home> probably not good for bumpy roads...
[21:27:16] <XXCoder> depends on springs
[21:27:21] <XXCoder> it looks fine for light duty
[21:28:44] <XXCoder> its clearly bit top heavy
[21:28:46] <XXCoder> not surpised
[21:34:24] <roycroft> john oliver is back tonight!
[21:34:42] <roycroft> we need a crazy brit to help make sense of crazy america
[21:40:00] <Tecan> ts100 soldering iron is only 35 CDN on ebay and has opensource firmware with motion sensor
[21:41:22] <Tecan> https://www.ebay.ca
[21:44:34] <ziper> what is this? https://jaysugarman.com
[21:46:15] <XXCoder> ojhhh
[21:46:20] <XXCoder> gauge size
[21:46:32] <XXCoder> you use gauge blocks with those, setting gap for dial bore indictor
[21:46:47] <XXCoder> I use em all time at work with parts with sensive bore size
[21:47:06] <XXCoder> never saw a mini version (above long one) before.
[21:47:30] <XXCoder> did you win em in auction or something?
[21:48:12] <XXCoder> ziper: the bars on top left is ends of gauge block stack, flat inward
[21:48:34] <XXCoder> I guess right ones is same, just smaller for small version
[21:48:44] <ziper> and then what?
[21:48:57] <ziper> they look like solid pieces
[21:49:19] <XXCoder> you have gauge blocks?
[21:49:24] <ziper> theyll be at auction tomorrow, I plan on picking up anything cheap
[21:49:46] <XXCoder> suppose you need a 1.111" hole or gap
[21:50:12] <XXCoder> you make a 1.111" stack of gauge blocks, put ends on and use pone of those bars tighten en together
[21:50:29] <XXCoder> gap should be 1.111", you then use that to set your dial bore indictor
[21:51:23] <XXCoder> dil bore indctor tend to be few hundred bucks or thousand
[21:51:35] <XXCoder> so if you find a good deal one grab that too for usage with that
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[21:51:56] <XXCoder> *good ones, not cheap
[21:52:23] <XXCoder> https://www.cdiweb.com
[21:52:48] <XXCoder> bore indictors always come with minium to max sizes it can be used in
[21:53:08] <XXCoder> ne I linked is 1.4 to 2.5 in
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[21:56:14] <ziper> oh, you put your gage block between those top pieces, I see
[21:56:24] <XXCoder> block(s) yeah
[21:56:25] <ziper> what accuracy? .0001?
[21:56:45] <XXCoder> not too sure, depends on some factors. how clean your blocks are, how good those ends is, so on
[21:57:35] <ziper> I mean you can get .001 or .0005 doing the same with just a micrometer right?
[21:57:46] <XXCoder> block(s) and ends should "stick" to each other thats when you know its pretty drat close to what size it should be, before even tightening it into it
[21:58:15] <XXCoder> ones I always used were really good
[21:58:31] <XXCoder> good enough to check +0 - .0005" holes
[21:58:37] <ziper> but yeah its an auction i'm going to tomorrow
[21:59:15] <XXCoder> ya check ends see if gouges or bad straches
[21:59:23] <XXCoder> that would kill any or all accuracy it had
[21:59:35] <XXCoder> unless youre robert in youtube, whos grind god
[22:00:54] <ziper> what is this? looks like a grinder but whats with the things on top https://jaysugarman.com
[22:02:03] <XXCoder> wow no idea
[22:02:23] <ziper> i figure the mill will go for a lot but i might be able to pick up some other stuff cheap https://jaysugarman.com
[22:03:09] <XXCoder> good luck :)
[22:03:14] <XXCoder> make sure you know prices
[22:03:51] <robotustra> built linuxcnc from scratch
[22:04:09] <robotustra> a bunch of dependencies missing
[22:04:52] <robotustra> like python boost, open gl headers, tcl-dev, tk-dev
[22:05:39] <robotustra> glu headers also
[22:06:44] <robotustra> how to add these deps into config file?
[22:06:44] <XXCoder> fun
[22:07:37] <robotustra> I maen I did like 10 times "sudo apt-get install ..." before I succeed to configure linuxcnc
[22:09:07] <ziper> ive never been to an auction before
[22:09:23] <robotustra> and after I configured it and did "make" I also was missint yapp2
[22:10:13] <robotustra> now tests are running
[22:11:01] <XXCoder> once went to auction. didnt go well, no interpeters.
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[22:15:11] <robotustra> 209 tests run, 208 successful, 1 failed + 0 expected
[22:15:26] <robotustra> Failed: threads.0
[22:15:30] <robotustra> is it ok?
[22:16:02] <XXCoder> not too likely you have to look at log and see why threads.0 failed
[22:16:49] <robotustra> where is the log of tests?
[22:17:11] <XXCoder> not sure
[22:18:35] <robotustra> HAL_LIB: HAL will pretend that the exact base period requested is possible.
[22:19:03] <robotustra> This mode is not suitable for running real hardware.
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[22:25:29] <robotustra> wow, it even works
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[23:50:17] <MrHindsight> anyone have the HF heat gun?
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