#linuxcnc | Logs for 2018-07-30
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[00:47:13] <Lcvette[m]> yes i have one
[00:47:16] <Lcvette[m]> the industrial model
[00:47:21] <Lcvette[m]> its very robust
[00:48:46] <Lcvette[m]> Hazzy and I have been tinkering on some probing routines and screen gui ideas and were discussing how many folks liked the PP interface but how it would be nice to have a version more generic for the average linuxcnc user.
[00:49:13] <Lcvette[m]> so we started working on seeing what that might look like in a simplified version
[00:49:39] <Lcvette[m]> and after a couple days of layout and tinkering this is what we came up with a sa rough draft
[00:50:02] * Lcvette[m] uploaded an image: image.png (142KB) < https://matrix.org >
[00:50:53] <Lcvette[m]> just wanted to get some feedback from the crowd.. we know its not as graphically fancy
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[00:59:25] <MrHindsight> Lcvette[m]: the ~$30 version or ~$45
[00:59:55] <Lcvette[m]> Hazzy, Turboss and I have been tinkering on some probing routines and screen gui ideas and were discussing how many folks liked the PP interface but how it would be nice to have a version more generic for the average linuxcnc user.
[01:00:29] <Lcvette[m]> the metal one
[01:00:38] <Lcvette[m]> bought it 3 years ago
[01:01:44] <MrHindsight> https://www.harborfreight.com
[01:02:00] <MrHindsight> only $38
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[01:03:58] <Lcvette[m]> yes thats the one
[01:04:25] <Lcvette[m]> i use it alpmost daily
[01:05:46] <jesseg> hazzy-m, ok cool thanks! I'd actually found them via google too! They and https://www.shophardinge.com 12190103
[01:06:04] <XXCoder> invalid part
[01:06:22] <jesseg> both appear to have the gear I need.. except my mill is a Taiwanese clone so I don't know if the dimensions are exact. Picture looks same.
[01:06:26] <XXCoder> ah hexchat dont like spaces in url
[01:06:30] <jesseg> oh sorry that space needed escaping:
[01:06:36] <jesseg> https://www.shophardinge.com
[01:06:49] <jesseg> is shophardinge.com any good?
[01:08:09] <XXCoder> unno
[01:08:12] <XXCoder> *dunno
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[01:09:50] <hazzy-m> hardinge is the company that bought out Bridgeport, from what I have seen the hardinge machines are better than the BPs ever were. Most of the new parts come from them too, and are very good quality
[01:10:42] <jesseg> interesting
[01:15:25] <roycroft> hardinge lathes can be very high quality and are highly sought out
[01:16:01] <jesseg> so I guess if shophardinge.com has the part I need it's probably a good part then :P
[01:16:19] <roycroft> there's a good chance it's a decent part
[01:24:21] <hazzy-m> jesseg: Yes, if you buy a genuine BP replacement part it will either be made by hardinge or be NOS. There are good replacement parts made by others though, and sometime the cost of the hardinge part is not worth it.
[01:24:51] <hazzy-m> MSC is a hardinge dealer, and has a good selection of PB part at decent prices, surprisingly!
[01:25:30] <jesseg> hazzy-m, good point. However, in this case, my own mill manufacturer (Atrump) actually sells parts but for slightly more than they are listed on shophardinge.com
[01:26:01] <jesseg> Unfortunately, the atrump parts website listed the gear I needed a week ago and now it doesn't LOL I need to call them Monday.
[01:26:56] <jesseg> MSCDIRECT.COM ?
[01:28:13] <jesseg> hmm, I wonder of MSC has parts.. They do sell BP mills but not sure if they have parts..
[01:28:55] <jesseg> but anyway $50 isn't a bad price for a gear I guess. I mean if I were to take the time to make one myself it'd take a good day of setup and work
[01:29:51] <XXCoder> tiny kitchen knife. lol https://www.youtube.com
[01:30:02] <hazzy-m> They do have BP parts in stock, but lost I checked (a year or so ago) they did not have them in the catalog
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[01:34:34] <jesseg> XXCoder, this is bizarre. Why am I watching it?
[01:35:06] <XXCoder> because youre watching it
[01:35:29] <jesseg> and what's the stuffed dog got to do with anything ?
[01:35:35] <XXCoder> he makes a lot of strange knives
[01:35:38] <XXCoder> yeah no idea either
[01:35:44] <XXCoder> he jokes around a lot
[01:36:23] <XXCoder> surpising professional looking tiny knife
[01:36:35] <XXCoder> but then hes damn good on kitchen knives
[01:37:30] <XXCoder> cuts like one also apparent;y
[01:37:51] <jesseg> I'm surpised he didn't use heat and hammering again later to thin out the blade once he had the side profile cut
[01:38:16] <XXCoder> who knows? he can make pasta knife that can really cut
[01:38:32] <XXCoder> and not weak knife either. its only weakness is water, he had to wipe it each cut
[01:40:47] <jesseg> lol I never thought of using a drill bit for a rivet
[01:43:14] <jesseg> he definitely did a nice job on it though
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[01:46:32] <XXCoder> yeah
[01:46:39] <XXCoder> see how he cuts paper dang
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[02:21:20] <IchGucksLive> morning from sunny Germany
[02:21:41] <IchGucksLive> XXCoder, how are the firers developing
[02:22:07] <XXCoder> east end but smoke starting to creep west to here
[02:22:22] <XXCoder> thankfully rain on thursday. monday is only very hot day this week
[02:22:57] <IchGucksLive> XXCoder, i got a real good papercutter dragknive
[02:23:11] <XXCoder> nice
[02:23:13] <IchGucksLive> up to 1mm paper
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[02:24:54] <IchGucksLive> XXCoder, let me upload a vid
[02:26:59] <IchGucksLive> XXCoder, https://youtu.be
[02:27:23] <IchGucksLive> its 450g/m²
[02:27:55] <XXCoder> interesting
[02:28:18] <IchGucksLive> i do all masking on 270g/m²
[02:28:24] <IchGucksLive> for painting
[02:28:30] <IchGucksLive> cake decoration
[02:28:53] <XXCoder> food grade paint I guess
[02:31:18] <IchGucksLive> airbrush
[02:31:32] <XXCoder> interesting https://www.youtube.com
[02:31:49] <XXCoder> making la,inar flow noozle
[02:31:57] <XXCoder> laminar
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[02:39:38] <IchGucksLive> im off 2 garden Bye
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[02:58:23] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[02:58:55] <jesseg> Guten morgen
[03:00:40] <Loetmichel> maan. not quite an hour in the company and already a part milled, second one in progress, talked to 2 external designers via phone AND glueing some copper foil onto a video projecter chassis... and thats not counting the 4 interruptions by the boss:"THAT had to be shipped last week, hurry up!"... if i had 8 arms i still would have not enough ;)
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[03:02:49] <norias> ain't that the truth
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[03:29:19] <Deejay> moin
[03:29:48] <norias> hi
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[05:52:43] <jthornton> morning
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[06:29:34] <IchGucksLive> hi all
[06:29:42] <XXCoder> welcome back
[06:29:42] <IchGucksLive> heat is overwalming all here
[06:30:00] <Deejay> need rain
[06:30:03] <XXCoder> my room is getting cool. awesome. 74f. rest of top floor is at 81f
[06:30:06] <IchGucksLive> XXCoder, never sleep this days at fire behind the house
[06:30:24] <IchGucksLive> Deejay, How not
[06:30:31] <IchGucksLive> who
[06:33:08] <IchGucksLive> off for dinnner
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[07:16:35] <veek> help aid assist, (anyone awake), i'm looking for a book on metals/metallurgy - practical guide to buying - something similar to the Time Life books on woodworking/preserving
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[07:45:05] <TurBoss> veek in spain we have "Casillas"
[07:45:48] <TurBoss> https://www.amazon.es
[07:46:02] <TurBoss> i hope someone knows some similar book
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[07:58:09] <veek> TurBoss, thanks - took a look - it seems to be a handbook which would NOT fit my needs - i'm a newbie so I wouldn't understand any of it.. the Time Life books on woodworking are a gentle intro to wood .. starts with basics 'cambium' 'phloem' 'xylem' and shows you how to buy wood with pictures and stuff http://pix.toile-libre.org
[07:59:21] <TurBoss> oh sorry I missunderstood :)
[07:59:39] <veek> the metal equivalent would be something about grain and alloys and tempering and hardening and how to buy metals (what length, number ssytem) eg:http://www.isibang.ac.in/~library/onlinerz/resources/Enghandbook.pdf
[08:02:11] <veek> Casillas is like.. the 'Blackbook for xxx' (or like Clark's tables/schaums series)
[08:03:53] <Beachbumpete1> Morning LinuxCNC ;)
[08:48:10] <rmu> veek: that probably depends where you are located, in europe you buy metals in formats like 2×1, 2,5×1,25 or 3×1,5 meters, thickness specified in mm.
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[08:49:00] <rmu> veek: with the alternative "custom units", thickness is specified in "gauge" and standard-dimensions are whatever, don't know ;)
[08:49:28] <rmu> veek: so at least you should specify in which kind of unit-system you are located
[08:51:38] <veek> rmu, metric
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[08:58:24] <rmu> veek: i don't have a book for you, but you could start with the materials science and metallurgy pages of wikipedia
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[09:31:30] <JT-Shop> morning Pete
[09:35:30] <Beachbumpete1> Hey JT
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[10:35:02] <miss0r> I wish I had something like mcmaster in denmark. I need a slap of mild steel that is roughly 20x150x200, and it seems I need to burchase 6.1meters worth of 20x150 to get that small peice.
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[10:55:16] <jdh> no local places you can buy drops or odd sizes?
[10:56:07] <miss0r|office> Well, I'm sure I could go dig up somewhere. But you'll just never know what they have laying around until you start digging in the scrap pile. With mcmaster, you can just pick it from a list online, I like that
[10:56:12] <gregcnc> Ebay?
[10:57:00] <miss0r|office> gregcnc: I guess. Have you had any experience buying steel from there? Do you know what you get?
[10:57:29] <gregcnc> I buy materials on Ebay, but not if I need to be sure about the grade
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[10:58:34] <miss0r|office> hmm.. Yeah, that is what I was worried about
[10:58:42] <gregcnc> though there are some real distributors on there that would be fine
[10:59:41] <gregcnc> nobody bothers to sell cut lengths of material over there?
[11:00:12] <miss0r|office> I've found a few, but the material they sell is more along the lines of hobby. So, basically theres nothing in the size I need
[11:02:54] <miss0r|office> I'm sure I can find some material I need at one of my clients. But it would just be nice if mcmaster had a european counterpart
[11:03:58] <gregcnc> openone?
[11:09:19] <miss0r|office> Doesn't seem like anything?
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[11:16:00] <IchGucksLive> hi folks realy hot in germany
[11:24:11] <robotustra> global warming is coming
[11:24:36] <robotustra> pretty soon you
[11:24:49] <robotustra> 'll grow bananas in Germany
[11:25:34] <gregcnc> they arelady grow bananas in iceland
[11:26:32] <IchGucksLive> gregcnc, as they got unlimited power ofcause
[11:31:30] <robotustra> do you mean volcanos?
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[11:37:13] <IchGucksLive> thermal
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[11:42:07] <roycroft> when i left my house today the sun was yellow-orange
[11:42:19] <roycroft> when i got to the office (50km south of my house) it was orange-red
[11:42:33] <roycroft> smoke from the fire down by the california border
[11:42:50] <roycroft> it used to be that there was a big fire in southwestern oregon every decade or two
[11:42:53] <roycroft> now it's every year
[11:43:07] <roycroft> last year the smoke stuck around for over a month
[11:43:45] <roycroft> keep in mind that the fires are 300km south of here
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[11:43:54] <roycroft> we're not close by any means
[11:44:45] <roycroft> the good news is that it's only going to get up to 31 today
[11:44:55] <roycroft> the bad news is that the reason is in part due to the smoke
[11:47:01] <IchGucksLive> .weather Zweibrücken
[11:48:05] <robotustra> nicht versteen
[11:50:42] <IchGucksLive> off till later
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[11:55:21] <robotustra> where I can read how the LCNC GUI is connected to the HAL and how it sends the commands?
[11:55:46] <jthornton> you have to read the code
[11:56:42] <robotustra> is it in gremline?
[11:56:43] <jthornton> that also might depend on the GUI some use different languages
[11:57:09] <robotustra> for example axis
[11:57:18] <jthornton> gremlin is the plot display
[11:57:25] <robotustra> ah
[11:57:49] <robotustra> but what part of code connects buttons and real hardware?
[11:59:30] <jthornton> Axis is a mix of languages and is impossible for me to understand what does what, I program in python
[12:00:32] <robotustra> ok, what code do you recommend to look at to find connection layer?
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[12:01:10] <hazzy-m> robotustra This is a good start: http://linuxcnc.org
[12:01:54] <robotustra> thanks
[12:02:00] <jthornton> yea that's a better place to look
[12:02:09] <hazzy-m> Almost all of the GUIs use the python interface to commant and recieve status updates from LCNC
[12:02:23] <robotustra> good
[12:02:34] <robotustra> it's what I was looking for
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[12:04:28] <hazzy-m> after that probably look at jthornton's GUI examples, those are what I learned python from :)
[12:04:39] <jthornton> :)
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[12:05:36] <robotustra> ok
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[12:30:44] <jthornton> hazzy-dev: I'm starting from scratch again with some better ideas for the code :)
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[12:36:30] <hazzy-m> jthornton I guess that is good, now at least you are somewhat familiar with Qt, so you won't just be concentrating on getting it to work
[12:36:58] <jthornton> yea, just sorting out what does what is a pain lol
[12:37:13] * jthornton noticed that his lunch minute is up so back to work
[12:43:54] <jthornton> I've cleaned up my code to populate the combo boxes http://gnipsel.com
[12:44:20] <jthornton> doesn't do anything except populate them at the moment... more in the morning :)
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[12:56:54] <IchGucksLive> hi
[13:00:27] <IchGucksLive> seams Yt channel is only increesing if you post one file per day
[13:05:11] <robotustra> is there any example how to use linuxcnc module from c/c++ code?
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[13:19:31] <hazzy-m> robotustra maybe look at the keysticckk GUI, I think it is written in C or C++
[13:19:48] <hazzy-m> You can send NML commants directaly from C++
[13:22:17] <hazzy-m> https://github.com
[13:26:07] <IchGucksLive> im off Gn8
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[13:36:45] <robotustra> actually as soon as I understand it's just a message based bidirectional communication?
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[13:37:36] <hazzy-m> yes, that is corrrect
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[13:37:53] <hazzy-m> it is very sinpler in concept
[13:39:28] <robotustra> if I want to do something I sould 1) prepare string command 2) send it to motion controller and 3) poll status?
[13:45:38] <miss0r> fragalot: You around?
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[13:53:11] <roycroft> when i write some gcode to mill a circle at the top of a part, and i run the code, it always homes before it starts running the job
[13:53:36] <roycroft> the problem with that is that i touch off to the fixture, which is at the bottom of the part, so homing would crash it
[13:53:45] <phipli> JT-Shop, JT-Shop
[13:53:50] <roycroft> is that that something i fix with a coordinate offset?
[13:54:26] <phipli> jthornton
[13:54:28] <roycroft> like if the finished part is 22mm high, and it's slightly overize, i set z to 28mm above the touchoff point and go from there?
[13:54:35] <roycroft> oversize
[13:56:55] <fragalot> miss0r: hey
[13:57:06] <miss0r> it speaks! :]
[13:57:11] <fragalot> sometimes :-)
[13:57:22] <miss0r> How was your trip?
[13:57:43] <fragalot> great!
[13:58:01] <fragalot> very interesting country once you manage to escape the gazillion of tourists :P
[13:58:16] <miss0r> yeah... :) I went there quite out'a season
[13:58:30] <miss0r> Did you get to taste some of the local 'cuisine' ? :)
[13:59:05] <fragalot> apparently if I tried the puffin my mother in law would have disowned my wife
[13:59:09] <fragalot> so no :P
[13:59:30] <miss0r> puffin ? :S
[13:59:38] <miss0r> didn't you go to iceland?
[14:00:04] <fragalot> yes
[14:00:09] <miss0r> apparently a bird, ah
[14:00:14] <fragalot> indeed
[14:00:17] <miss0r> What about fermented shark?
[14:00:29] <fragalot> Hell no. :D
[14:00:49] <fragalot> a dish that is known for being absolutely disgusting isn't all that high on my "I want to try this" list
[14:00:50] <miss0r> what?! sissi !
[14:01:31] <fragalot> :D
[14:01:48] <fragalot> have you?
[14:01:49] <miss0r> I tried that with my fater inlaw. We had to vent the apartment for two hours before the girls got back.. They chould still smell it :)
[14:02:19] <miss0r> (they were out to ride those icelandic pnoys, with a weight limit of 90kgs on their back, so we had to find something else to do)
[14:02:20] <Tom_L> roycroft, for that very reason i set my tools above the part
[14:03:08] <fragalot> bahaha :D
[14:03:09] <Tom_L> nice storm rollin thru here
[14:03:44] <fragalot> as long as you didn't have to smell it twice
[14:03:58] <miss0r> nah.. he washed it down with the icelandic snaps
[14:04:11] <miss0r> let me descripe the taste and texture to you:
[14:04:49] <miss0r> they looked like those small salad cheese cubes. They tasted like the most rancid cheese you could ever imagine, but the texture was that of tough beef
[14:05:10] <fragalot> sounds like I missed out
[14:05:11] <fragalot> lol
[14:05:22] <miss0r> yeah well. Atleast I can say that i've tried it ;)
[14:05:26] * fragalot afk, might be back in ~1hr
[14:05:26] <Tom_L> what's with alaskans that bury food and dig it up and eat it months later?
[14:05:52] <miss0r> fragalot: I will most likely be gone by then. Get back to me on your mill project soon
[14:08:01] <miss0r> Tom_L: Same with the icelanders.
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[14:08:50] <miss0r> It was due to them having a serious lack of food. (most local cuisine was born this way or due to other limitations). It was a way to make stuff eaddible
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[14:29:59] <JT-Shop> Tom_L: it's a way to preserve the food
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[15:00:24] <roycroft> tom_l: i want to do that, but i'm not sure how to do it
[15:00:30] <roycroft> that's what i'm getting at
[15:00:42] <roycroft> do i touch down, then jog up 200mm or whatever, and set that as my zero?
[15:00:49] <roycroft> touch off, rather
[15:01:57] * roycroft is obviously new to doing this, and still hasn't found a good primer on writing gcode, although jt-shop's docs have been more helpful than the others
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[15:04:21] <gregcnc> roycroft is the code telling the machine to home?
[15:04:46] <roycroft> no, i'm not telling it to home
[15:05:57] <fragalot_> miss0r: mill is still waiting for gibs. can't get hold of machinist friend due to him being on holiday this week.. so.. meh.
[15:06:12] <roycroft> G17 G21 G40 G49 G80 G90 G92.1 G94 G54
[15:06:14] <gregcnc> why would it do something that is not in the code?
[15:06:16] <roycroft> that's what i used for a preamble
[15:06:30] <roycroft> i go to linuxcnc
[15:06:31] <roycroft> home
[15:06:36] <roycroft> then jog z up above the part
[15:06:40] <roycroft> then i run the code
[15:07:15] <roycroft> and it always rapids down to the bottom first, then comes back up to the start of the first milling operation
[15:07:58] <gregcnc> there must be a Z move telling it to do so
[15:08:15] <gregcnc> hand code or?
[15:08:16] <roycroft> the next line is:
[15:08:23] <roycroft> G0 Z-28; 6mm above top of part
[15:08:25] <roycroft> hand code
[15:08:35] <roycroft> so that brings it back up above the part
[15:08:42] <roycroft> back to where it was before i started running the code
[15:09:20] <roycroft> i'm thinking it has something to do with setting the coordinate system
[15:09:27] <roycroft> either g92 or g54
[15:12:22] <gregcnc> so Z-28 ends up other than where expected?
[15:12:34] <roycroft> no, that ends up exactly where i want it
[15:12:59] <roycroft> the problem is that if this were a real machine with a real part, the cutter would crash into the part while homing to the fixture before it goes back up the 28mm
[15:13:26] <gregcnc> define"homing to the fixture"
[15:13:39] <roycroft> i touch off on the part holder
[15:13:47] <roycroft> which means i'm touching off to the bottom of the part, not the top of the part
[15:13:48] <gregcnc> in the program?
[15:13:58] <roycroft> on the simulated machine
[15:14:24] <roycroft> i.e. when i home the z axis
[15:14:34] <gregcnc> you are not homing
[15:14:50] <gregcnc> what do you mean by homing
[15:14:56] <roycroft> well maybe i'm still confused by terms
[15:15:05] <roycroft> i jog to a position
[15:15:08] <roycroft> select the x axis
[15:15:16] <roycroft> press the "touch off" button
[15:15:19] <roycroft> same for y and z
[15:15:25] <roycroft> then when i press home it goes to that position
[15:15:37] <gregcnc> but this is not in the program
[15:16:14] <roycroft> right
[15:16:38] <roycroft> but when i run the program the first thing it does is go to that x,y,z position
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[15:16:44] <gregcnc> but you're saying the machine goes to this position when you execute the program?
[15:16:47] <roycroft> yes
[15:17:04] <roycroft> no matter where i put the tool before i execute the program it goes there first
[15:17:57] * roycroft is obviously still rather confused by all of this
[15:18:19] <gregcnc> anyone know if this is a sim thing? real machines don't do this
[15:18:34] <roycroft> it's probably a me thing :)
[15:18:55] <gregcnc> unless the code calls for a move, it simply should not happen
[15:19:28] <roycroft> well maybe my g92 or g54 is doing it
[15:19:32] <roycroft> that's what i'm trying to sort out
[15:19:32] <gregcnc> so if there is no G0 x0. y0. z0. it should not move there
[15:19:34] <gregcnc> no
[15:19:57] <roycroft> i showed you the complete preamble, and then the first actual move
[15:20:05] <roycroft> and it moves before that moe
[15:20:11] <roycroft> i should single-step it and see what happens
[15:20:39] <gregcnc> i'm not sure what's happening, but I doubt a real machine would make that move
[15:28:14] <roycroft> i'll sort it out eventually, i'm sure
[15:28:23] <roycroft> but right now it's time for lunch
[15:28:40] <gregcnc> I wouldn't chase it to far without confirming this is a sim issue
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[16:25:04] <Tom_L> roycroft, i set my model lower in my cad cam the amount i want to clear the material
[16:25:14] <Tom_L> generally it's 1"
[16:25:51] <Tom_L> on the larger machines i worked with we set it down 2-3" unless it was a big part then we went more and set the tools off gage blocks
[16:26:14] <Tom_L> i have a 1" gage block i use on mine to set the tools
[16:26:29] <Tom_L> most of what i do is thinner than 1"
[16:26:44] <Tom_L> so my z clear will always go to a safe spot
[16:26:54] <Tom_L> or 'home'
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[16:48:13] <roycroft> g92 is for setting offsets, for example, when one has fixtures to make multiple identical parts in one operation
[16:48:59] <roycroft> so i'm thinking i home, which puts z down at my fixture, jog up to clear the part, insert the part in the fixture, then at the beginning of the program do g92 x0 y0 z0
[16:49:33] <roycroft> i have another vm running right now and don't want to start up the linuxcnc vm at the same time, but i'll test that when i can
[16:49:52] <Tom_L> i typically don't use G92 but YMMV
[16:50:28] <Tom_L> but i have cad cam and the ability to move things where i want em
[16:50:51] <roycroft> so you would, in my example, physically touch off z on the fixture, jog up the 28mm to clear it, then push the "touch off" button
[16:51:04] <roycroft> and it would home to that point in the air, and not on the fixture
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[16:52:05] <roycroft> i'm trying to learn how to write gcode by hand to 1. help learn how the gcode interpreter works, and 2. to be able to tweak things if some software-generate gcode doesn't work out quite right
[16:52:21] <roycroft> plus, i don't have cam software yet that i want to use
[16:52:44] <roycroft> i've been avoiding fusion 360, but i did look at it a bit more, and i may end up giving it a go
[16:53:02] <roycroft> i like solidworks, but i really like typing commands in autocad and not clicking on stuff
[16:53:16] <roycroft> and fusion 360 seems to give be the best of both worlds
[16:53:25] <roycroft> parametric modeling with a command line
[16:53:45] <roycroft> if i end up using that i'll let it generate the gcode for me
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[16:56:12] * JT-Shop needs to pick one table/desk/flat spot a day and clean it off...
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[16:56:41] <roycroft> that's easy
[16:56:44] <roycroft> clean one spot off
[16:56:52] <roycroft> the next day move stuff from the second spot to the first spot
[16:57:03] <roycroft> keep that up and soon you'll have "cleaned" every spot in the shop
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[17:03:18] <JT-Shop> well that was not the plan lol
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[17:13:37] <Tom_L> pull dumpster next to table... swoop table clean... move to next
[17:14:02] * Tom_L picks thru JT-Shop's dumpster for tools n such
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[17:14:54] <Deejay> gn8
[17:15:01] <roycroft> a smelting furnace might come in handy for the job as well
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[17:16:27] <JT-Shop> some have so much crap on them swooping could be dangerous
[17:16:31] <gregcnc> roycroft If you are seeing movement other than current position directly to commanded when G0Z-28 is executed, something is up, my real machine has never done this
[17:17:50] <Tom_L> nice storm headed your way unless it loses steam...
[17:17:56] <gregcnc> there are exceptions, but I don't see your case as one of these
[17:18:05] <Tom_L> moved in pretty quick here
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[17:28:28] <JT-Shop> I think it's going to die out, forecast down to 30%
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[17:45:33] <Roguish> hazzy-dev: it that GUI getting close to tryout? looks good.
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[17:47:28] <ziper> i'm back from the auction
[17:47:39] <ziper> i got an autofile and a bunch of crap
[17:47:49] <hazzy-m> Roguish No, still a long ways to go
[17:47:58] <Roguish> ok
[17:47:59] <hazzy-m> it could probably run a machine, but it would not be conveniant
[17:48:11] <ziper> someone got a great deal on a south bend lathe and a vertical mill
[17:48:23] <ziper> auctioneer did a pretty bad job
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[17:49:41] <SpeedEvil> ziper: Diddn't Jay-Z do a song about that?
[17:50:11] <ziper> i dont know enough jayz songs to get the joke
[17:50:32] <SpeedEvil> (death of autotune)
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[17:50:53] <SpeedEvil> I assume it's just a vertical file - as has been shown on clickspring - oscillating?
[17:52:09] <ziper> yeah
[17:53:04] <ziper> also a woodworking tool that I am not really sure what it is
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[17:54:13] <ziper> craftsman, about 2 ft long, 6 inches wide. has a flat top surface. kind of looks like a belt sander with only one roller
[17:56:39] <Rab> ziper, any pics?
[17:57:09] <ziper> tomorrow
[17:57:17] <Rab> ziper, you didn't go for the lathe? Have you found one already?
[17:57:26] <ziper> too much
[17:58:44] <ziper> oh, maybe a joiner?
[17:59:14] <gloops> jointer
[18:00:07] <gloops> be careful if you arent familiar with it, they like knuckles and fingers
[18:01:19] <ziper> can you scarf with one?
[18:03:22] <hazzy-m> ziper Scarf joint on a jointer? Not intentinaly, yes :D
[18:04:50] <SpeedEvil> http://www.aei.mpg.de
[18:04:51] <SpeedEvil> neat
[18:05:29] <SpeedEvil> https://i.imgur.com micron level ranging at a couple of hundred kilometers.
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[18:11:57] <sync> SpeedEvil: yeah it is pretty neat what they do
[18:12:26] <SpeedEvil> GRACE is neat. Actually being able to see changes in aquifer level over time.
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[18:16:13] <hazzy-lab> https://ghostgunner.net
[18:17:16] <hazzy-lab> Interesting arrangement for a small mill
[18:23:20] <SpeedEvil> Indeed. Buy small mill, print gun, use it to get proper mill.
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[18:26:25] <hazzy-m> I can't tell how the Z works ...
[18:26:44] <jthornton> well that was a bittersweet moment to watch the strange dog touch the hot wire with it's nose and run off the property howling
[18:34:31] <Roguish> long live the chicks.....
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[18:55:40] <JT-Shop> I'm trying to make that happen... unlike the first group
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[20:11:16] <robotustra> the feelings I'm getting from UI in linuxcnc can be described by this episode: https://www.youtube.com
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[20:46:28] <roycroft> holy moly
[20:46:35] <roycroft> here's a statistic i'm not proud of at all
[20:46:49] <roycroft> oregon currently has the most large fires burning of any state - 15
[20:47:32] <roycroft> nothing like the carr fire though
[20:47:38] <roycroft> that is unreal
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[22:25:25] <roycroft> i just found a lynda.com course on g-code programming
[22:25:39] <roycroft> i think i'll watch that before i ask any more dumb questions here
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[23:22:19] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[23:22:35] <Tom_L> 3 positions run so far with no tool setting changes
[23:23:20] <Tom_L> last one is the bottom profile but ran out of time tonight
[23:24:37] <CaptHindsight> trained chickens https://imgur.com
[23:32:42] * Lcvette[m] uploaded an image: image.png (199KB) < https://matrix.org >
[23:32:47] <Lcvette[m]> thoughts?
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[23:41:32] <CaptHindsight> nice to see work being done on gui's
[23:42:18] <Lcvette[m]> thanks
[23:42:51] <Lcvette[m]> this is a group effort of myself Turboss and Hazzy
[23:44:03] <`Wolf> wish I knew enough to contribute but I’m clueless when it comes to coding
[23:45:05] <`Wolf> look like I got the oiling figured out on the X2 X axis ball nut https://i.imgur.com
[23:45:30] <`Wolf> guess now I need to design a metering manifold
[23:48:19] <hazzy-m> Wolf: Looks good!
[23:48:41] <`Wolf> hope so, that one stupid fitting was $9
[23:48:59] <hazzy-m> there is a name for drilled bolts like that, do you remember?
[23:49:22] <`Wolf> banjo fitting IIRC tho that might be a automotive term
[23:49:27] <hazzy-m> Oh, I thought you had made it :)
[23:49:44] <hazzy-m> ah, that sounds right
[23:50:08] <Lcvette[m]> nice!!! looks good!!
[23:51:40] <`Wolf> I could have made that but the size makes it somewhat a pain
[23:52:26] <hazzy-m> yeah, if you cost your time it's not worth it
[23:53:04] <`Wolf> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com
[23:53:23] <`Wolf> making that would be time consuming
[23:54:10] <`Wolf> rest are cheap M5- 4mm OD push connect fittings
[23:55:49] <`Wolf> which gives me a idea for the metering block using brass setscrews and drilling them to use as metering orifices
[23:56:49] <`Wolf> if I can figure out what the hole sizes will need to be for the flow amount…
[23:57:02] <`Wolf> I foresee a mess of way oil everywhere lol
[23:58:07] <Tom_L> Lcvette[m], is that the one hazzy started?
[23:58:43] <`Wolf> this GUI you guys are working on, is it for touch screen?
[23:59:13] <hazzy-m> yes and yes
[23:59:30] <`Wolf> nice, I’ll have to check it out then
[23:59:49] <`Wolf> I have a nice 15” touchscreen to use with my X2