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[01:01:20] <jesseg> Howdy
[01:01:38] <hazzy-lab> hello!
[01:01:59] <hazzy-lab> did you find a source for the bearing?
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[01:05:28] <jesseg> hazzy-dev, oh yeah -- I called Atrump - turns out manual has a misprint. 3010ZZ is wrong number - supposed to be 6010ZZ -- which they normally stock (out of stock today) but it's also available on mscdirect and lots of other places.
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[01:06:52] <hazzy-lab> jesseg: That is great! Is 6010ZZ a double row?
[01:07:13] <jesseg> Nope, just regular
[01:07:38] <jesseg> and it's one of two ball bearings which support that particular rotating part
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[01:09:27] <hazzy-lab> excellent, there are a couple of double rows in the BP that are rare as hens teeth, for a bit I thought you might need one of those, glad its standard bearing
[01:09:51] <jesseg> yeah me too :D
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[01:15:21] <jesseg> so my mill has a little oiler cup that would basically run oil down the quill sliding area as well as down the spindle bearings....
[01:15:43] <`Wolf> normal and messy
[01:15:48] <jesseg> I figured I'd want to use way oil on the quill sliding surfaces and spindle oil naturally down the spindle bearings...
[01:16:00] <jesseg> but it seems they both drink from the same spout?! How do I use two different oils?
[01:16:50] <`Wolf> you don’t lol
[01:17:35] <hazzy-lab> yeah, the same oil for both, lol
[01:17:52] <jesseg> I gotta admit, back in my naughty days, when I was umm using bar oil, it did provide a lovely viscous action on the quill. I could let go of the drill press handle and the quill would go up nice and smooth and not bang.
[01:17:53] <hazzy-lab> spindle oil is fine for the quill
[01:18:00] <jesseg> oh OK
[01:18:33] <hazzy-lab> haha, fluid damed quill
[01:18:36] <hazzy-lab> damped*
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[01:20:49] <jesseg> yeah it's real nice. You just let go and it perfectly goes up and stops without going too fast or damaging anything
[01:21:02] <sealive> morning
[01:21:36] <sealive> getting desert temps here again after a cool breeze
[01:22:02] <sealive> and a very hot weekend
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[01:33:20] <sealive> off 2 garden
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[01:33:44] <hazzy-lab> sealive must be Ichs, lol
[01:34:18] <hazzy-lab> who else would say off 2 beer garden? xD
[01:34:19] <`Wolf> must be lol
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[02:50:00] <jesseg> hey if anyone could help me, I'm trying to diagnose a strange issue with my spindle motor: http://videoflier.com
[02:50:05] <jesseg> I videoed it because it's so strange
[02:51:09] <hazzy-lab> jesseg: classic worn bearing bore
[02:51:51] <hazzy-lab> looks like the bearing bore was play in it, so the bearing it moving side to side
[02:52:03] <hazzy-lab> it does not have end play because of the spring washer
[02:52:07] <jesseg> hazzy-lab, lol tell me more... so the inside bore of the motor bearing? or the hole it goes into in the motor end plates?
[02:52:33] <jesseg> oh the whole bearing is sliding back and forth? that's what it feels and sounds like but I couldn't imagine how that would come to be....!
[02:52:48] <hazzy-lab> yes, that is very common
[02:52:58] <hazzy-lab> easy to fix too
[02:53:23] <jesseg> ok fascinating.... so what do I do, bed it in JB weld lol
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[02:53:38] <jesseg> or can I just ignore it? The motor runs smooth and quiet
[02:53:51] <hazzy-lab> you can get little corrugated shim-stock specifically for taking up the play
[02:54:09] <jesseg> ahh gotcha
[02:54:11] <hazzy-lab> but you could also just glue the bearing in the lock tight ...
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[02:54:19] <hazzy-lab> with*
[02:55:13] <jesseg> and if I do nothing, will it wear excessively faster than if I do something?
[02:55:27] <hazzy-lab> you could leave it, but what happens it the drag from the grease slowly spins the bearing in the bore and it gets worse and worse if you don't stop the bearing from spinning somehow
[02:55:33] <hazzy-lab> right!
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[02:56:05] <jesseg> fascinating. WIth the constant side force of the pulley I would not have imagined the outer race constantly dragging around
[02:56:40] <jesseg> Is there any chance this made in china motor was just made lose? LOL...
[02:56:49] <jesseg> well I guess the machine does have some hours on it
[02:57:07] <hazzy-lab> yes, could be the fit was always loose and it just got worse over time as the bearing spun
[02:57:26] <hazzy-lab> ot it was always like that ... lol
[02:58:03] <jesseg> How do I get the motor apart? I tried taking the rear fan off and the front face plate bolts, but couldn't get the front face plate to come free
[02:59:44] <hazzy-lab> most motors have little indents for a screwdriver in the bell (end cap) right next to were the bell meats the can
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[03:00:16] <hazzy-lab> but a flat blade in there and tap lightly, and repeat all around until it works free
[03:00:32] <hazzy-lab> it sould come off pretty easy
[03:01:06] <hazzy-lab> you could also tap on the mounting ears (which I assume it has) with a block of wood
[03:01:23] <hazzy-lab> you cant damage much, just go slow and steady
[03:02:26] <hazzy-lab> jesseg: after 3am here, I need to sleep ...
[03:02:29] <hazzy-lab> gn8
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[03:03:29] <jesseg> Nighters, thanks a million hazzy-dev
[03:10:05] <Deejay> moin
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[06:10:40] <jthornton> morning
[06:13:11] <XXCoder> yo'
[06:13:46] <jthornton> down to 14:00:13 hours of daylight... days are getting shorter
[06:14:09] <XXCoder> yep
[06:14:26] <XXCoder> shop was actually livable today
[06:14:44] <XXCoder> though im going though bad issues with air pressure changes its great
[06:14:48] <jthornton> weather has been nice for this time of year
[06:15:02] <XXCoder> 2nd record hottest july ever
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[08:40:49] <sealive> hi all
[08:40:54] <sealive> super hot in germany
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[08:48:05] <sealive> stilll full bot alert here
[08:48:42] <sealive> im off tilll ater
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[09:02:57] <JT-Shop> pcw_home: can the 7i76E put out 3.3v step and direction?
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[10:48:12] <roycroft> do any of you who use solidworks know if any useful information is lost when exporting a .sldprt file to .step?
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[10:53:00] <gregcnc> I suppose it depends on what you intend to do with the .step
[10:53:38] <roycroft> i want to open it with fusion 360 to use the cam features
[10:53:57] <roycroft> i've been looking at fusion 360 but its cloud-based stuff makes it unsuitable for me for design work
[10:54:00] <robotustra> and it depends on the meaning of "useful information"
[10:54:06] <roycroft> so i want to continue to use solidworks for design
[10:54:11] <roycroft> and fusion 360 to generate gcode
[10:54:50] <gregcnc> when i tried that i thought I imported sldprt
[10:54:56] <roycroft> i could not do so
[10:55:09] <roycroft> but that might be part of the cloud stuff
[10:55:13] <roycroft> i did the import in offline mode
[10:55:21] <roycroft> and it did not allow an import of a .sldprt file
[10:55:27] <roycroft> but it would import .step
[10:55:28] <Wolf_> it is part of the cloud stuff
[10:55:36] <roycroft> that might be acceptable
[10:55:49] <roycroft> i can go online when i need to generate gcode
[10:55:54] <roycroft> i do a lot of work offline though
[10:56:03] <roycroft> an fusion 360 is not very functional in offline mode
[10:56:19] <roycroft> i'll try it online and see if i can import a .sldprt file
[10:56:32] <gregcnc> if you import sldprt you get sketches etc, I think you get just solids with step
[10:57:17] <roycroft> i'm just looking for a free/cheap way to generate gcode from a cad file
[10:57:34] <roycroft> my version of solidworks is too old to use the now-bundled cam plugin
[10:57:41] <gregcnc> right
[10:58:16] <roycroft> i was willing to give fusion 360 a go for design work, even though i despise anything cloud-based
[10:58:30] <roycroft> i was going to bite my tongue and accept that it might be the thing i need to do
[10:58:37] <roycroft> then i found out that it's mostly useless in offline mode
[10:58:53] <roycroft> like all the part libraries are cloud-only
[10:59:26] <roycroft> so now i'm back to solidworks, which functions perfectly well without being tethered to the internet
[11:00:03] <roycroft> too bad, actually, because although i like solidworks, i hate that it is so dependent on using a mouse
[11:00:07] <jdh> whatis SW price vs 360?
[11:00:18] <roycroft> and fusion 360 looks like it has a decent command interface
[11:00:19] <gregcnc> lol
[11:00:29] <roycroft> fusion 360 is $25/month for the commercial version
[11:00:33] <roycroft> free for students/makers
[11:00:45] <roycroft> solidworks cost us about $5.5k when we bought it in 2011
[11:01:19] <roycroft> i don't know what current pricing is - they don't publish their prices
[11:01:25] <roycroft> but i should imagine it's about the same now
[11:01:31] <gregcnc> it hasn't really changed
[11:01:56] <Wolf_> its about the same price
[11:02:10] <Wolf_> for the mostly base version
[11:02:33] <robotustra> instead of collaboration and support of the development free CAM product you still pay for licences
[11:02:47] <roycroft> i'm not interested in that discussion
[11:02:59] <roycroft> i'm just looking for a solution
[11:03:15] <roycroft> i don't object at all to others having that discussion
[11:03:22] <roycroft> i just don't want to participate
[11:03:52] <robotustra> solution is export part to STL and generate pathes with pycam for instance
[11:04:11] <roycroft> i can give that a go
[11:04:19] <roycroft> i have pycam
[11:04:33] <roycroft> and frankly, if i can avoid fusion 360 completely i'd be happier
[11:04:50] <robotustra> I also looking for working tool chain to generate g-codes
[11:05:32] <roycroft> we got a good deal on solidworks when we bought it
[11:05:38] <robotustra> I'm still doing 2d and 2.5d milling,
[11:05:59] <robotustra> I use t-flex + ArtCam
[11:06:03] <roycroft> i don't remember all the details, but we got it through through a government agency for whom we were doing work
[11:06:17] <roycroft> and got solidworks premium for the cost of the base license
[11:07:02] <roycroft> i'm just getting ready to start cnc milling, and initially it will be 2d and perhaps a little 2.5d
[11:07:12] <roycroft> i'm not really looking at doing anything 3d for a while
[11:07:41] <roycroft> that said, i now have access to some 3d printers, and have some parts that i'd like to make, but i don't think those printers are suitable for the parts
[11:08:05] <Wolf_> got any vets working there? soildworks does have a $100 license
[11:08:21] <robotustra> I was thinking to use this one, but it looks suspisious https://www.youtube.com
[11:08:26] <roycroft> i'm an internet veteran
[11:08:30] <roycroft> but i don't think that counts
[11:08:35] <robotustra> roycroft, https://www.youtube.com
[11:08:35] <Wolf_> lol
[11:08:49] <roycroft> hey
[11:08:59] <roycroft> i have some real battle scars from running an isp in the '90s
[11:09:29] <roycroft> freecad is a nice idea, but it has a bit of maturing to do yet
[11:09:51] <roycroft> it's a project that i could see myself using and supporting at some point
[11:10:25] * roycroft did not mean to insult actual vets there, and was just making a feeble attempt at humor
[11:10:52] <robotustra> I'm so upset with the free tools that I'm about to write my own 2d-2.5d path generator
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[11:11:06] <robotustra> without any gui even
[11:11:41] <roycroft> i don't care about guis, for the most part
[11:11:57] <roycroft> if you saw my workstation you would see that immediately
[11:11:58] <gregcnc> machining in the 80's?
[11:12:10] <roycroft> i'm on an imac right now, and i have three displays connected to it
[11:12:14] <roycroft> two of them are full of xterms
[11:12:38] <roycroft> and the third is the one that acutally does gui stuff - it has nagios open in a browser
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[11:12:51] <roycroft> guis are useful for some things
[11:13:06] <roycroft> but a lot of stuff is just more cumbersome to use in a gui environment
[11:13:24] <robotustra> I use console or text editor 95% of all my working time
[11:13:36] <roycroft> the bottm line is: i'm not married to gui or to not-gui environments
[11:13:46] <roycroft> i use what works best for me for the task at hand
[11:14:09] <robotustra> that's why I would like to make a console tool to generate g-codes
[11:14:35] <gregcnc> for simple work I'm sure it's OK.
[11:15:28] <robotustra> like: > stl2gcode model.stl -o path.nc --tool=tool.ini
[11:15:30] <gregcnc> if that's all you need i suppose it's hard to justify upgrading SW for integrated CAM
[11:15:40] <roycroft> that is all i need
[11:15:57] <roycroft> solidworks 2012 is more than sufficient for the stuff i'm doing and am likely to do in the future
[11:16:44] <roycroft> the only other reason i would need to upgrade would be if the version i have no longer runs on recent windows releases, and the virtualization software i use no longer supports the version of windows (windows 7) that i'm currently using
[11:16:45] <gregcnc> single pass cuts to make the parts?
[11:18:08] <robotustra> like: > stl2gcode model.stl -o path.nc --tool=tools.ini
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[11:21:25] <roycroft> i want to sort this out soon
[11:21:54] <roycroft> i'm at a point where i can hand-write simple gcode and get it doing what i need it to do, in simulation mode
[11:22:01] <roycroft> but that's too tedius for most real parts
[11:22:31] <roycroft> i'm on vacation the week of the 13th, and i plan on doing some real cnc milling right after i return
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[11:23:34] <roycroft> one reason offline cad work is important - i'll be camping in a place where there is no internet (no distratctions :) and plan on designing several parts while i'm there
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[11:25:20] <robotustra> camping drived design in nature inspiration
[11:25:33] <robotustra> driven*
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[11:29:53] <roycroft> i don't mind using technology when i'm camping
[11:30:10] <roycroft> i do prefer not using the internet, though
[11:30:22] <roycroft> i'll be on-call, as i always am, sadly
[11:30:30] <roycroft> and i will have to check emails twice/day
[11:30:40] <roycroft> but only an emergency mailbox
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[11:32:59] <robotustra> I don't read any email while I'm on camping
[11:34:18] <robotustra> I disable all internet communications if I want to rest
[11:34:27] <roycroft> were that i could
[11:34:38] <roycroft> but since i'm on-call i do have to check for emergencies
[11:34:54] <roycroft> fortunately my networks are robust enough now that i rarelyh have to respond to anything
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[12:10:02] <robotustra> anyway the problem of good and free cad/cam toolchain is still #1
[12:10:25] <selroc> hello
[12:14:30] <robotustra> hello
[12:15:14] <selroc> I have to try out Blender https://www.blender.org
[12:16:54] <robotustra> what for?
[12:17:34] <robotustra> blender is a hipster software written by hipsters for hipsters
[12:17:49] <robotustra> :)
[12:18:15] <robotustra> as soon as I see it :)
[12:19:38] <hazzy-lab> robotustra: lol, so true xD
[12:20:16] <robotustra> I don't know what logic should be to create such UI
[12:20:29] <robotustra> you'll spend a years of learinng it
[12:20:55] <selroc> I spent a few months to learn FreeCAD
[12:21:24] <jdh> and?
[12:21:39] <selroc> and it works well with PyCAM
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[12:23:19] <selroc> PyCAM takes STL input so it works well, I made several parts this way
[12:24:04] <robotustra> I spend about a week to start to draw in t-flex 15 years ago, still using it
[12:24:35] <robotustra> actually, less, may be 3-4 days
[12:25:06] <robotustra> FreeCAD is designed for aliens too.
[12:25:17] <selroc> the topic is anyway the problem of good and free cad/cam toolchain is still #1 so I talk open source
[12:25:41] <robotustra> I can't use it because the logic is too wierd with comparison to good one
[12:27:31] <robotustra> I'm for free, open tools, so I'm planning to contribute one day
[12:27:54] <robotustra> actually already started
[12:28:24] <selroc> then probably I am an alien
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[12:30:20] <robotustra> "I will write my own GUI with black Jack and ..."
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[12:35:03] <roycroft> as i said earlier, freecad needs some time to mature
[12:36:03] <robotustra> roycroft, can you make a chamfer in one-two clicks?
[12:48:40] <roycroft> sure
[12:50:21] <roycroft> i really wish i'd gotten a new mac pro instead of an imac
[12:50:35] <roycroft> the displays on this imac are beautiful
[12:50:50] <roycroft> but it's such a slow machine compared to my old (2008) mac pro
[12:51:02] <roycroft> it's taking about 3 minutes for a linuxcnc vm to load
[12:51:40] <roycroft> my macbook pro is even faster than this
[12:53:32] <robotustra> I istalled lcnc on Athlon 3GHz on ssd and it boots about 11 seconds from power up to login
[12:54:11] <robotustra> much faster than my zenbook
[12:54:21] <robotustra> about 10 times faster
[12:54:41] <robotustra> so I need to move on ssd's all what I have
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[12:54:49] <sealive> hi all
[12:55:36] <sealive> selroc, nice to get you sadisfied on FreeCAD
[12:56:27] <sealive> robotustra, more interest is the latency you got
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[12:56:48] <sealive> XXCoder, firer hedding your way
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[12:58:20] <roycroft> hmm, so i just made a part in solidworks, exported it as stl, and pycam rotated it so that the top is now the front
[12:58:28] <sealive> hazzy-dev, this nick is registerd
[12:58:40] <hazzy-lab> ah, I see
[12:58:46] <roycroft> i guess i'll have to figure out how to rotate it back
[12:58:56] <roycroft> pycam doesn't seem to have that capability though
[12:59:03] <sealive> roycroft, better to use for real mechanical parts STEP not stl
[12:59:18] <roycroft> someone here told me to use stl with pycam
[12:59:29] <roycroft> i can try step
[13:00:31] <roycroft> as i pause the linuxcnc vm and unpause the solidworks vm, then vice versa
[13:00:37] <roycroft> so maybe by lunch time :)
[13:01:15] <roycroft> i just need to figure out a workflow that gets me from solidworks to gcode
[13:01:18] <hazzy-lab> jesseg: You like corona light, right? https://i.imgur.com
[13:01:26] <roycroft> whatever it takes without spending $5k
[13:01:43] <robotustra> I told
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[13:03:20] <roycroft> actually, the unpausing/pausing of solidworks went pretty fast
[13:03:33] <roycroft> it's the linuxcnc vm that takes so bloody long
[13:04:48] <roycroft> which is odd, because the solidworks vm is 50GB and the linuxcnc vm is only 20GB
[13:05:46] <roycroft> and pycam does not understand my .step file
[13:07:58] <R2E4> Hi all...
[13:09:13] <R2E4> anyone working on a pure python remap?
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[13:12:57] <roycroft> aah, i found how to flip things
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[13:19:15] <jesseg> hazzy-dev, yeah sweet! what is it?
[13:20:37] <sealive> im off for today did do a new Commit to FreeCad but i think it will not be accepted to get better g-code
[13:20:52] <sealive> someone will find a small hint to not merge it
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[15:46:11] <miss0r> goodevening
[15:48:11] <hazzy-lab> miss0r: hello
[15:48:25] <miss0r> hello hazzy. Are you up to anything interresting?
[15:49:14] <robotustra> a bot?
[15:49:37] <miss0r> what is?
[15:49:58] <hazzy-lab> yes, got a new VFD rated spindle motor for the RF45 mill, and got most of the parts to switch to a PDB and TTS tooling
[15:50:10] <miss0r> nice.
[15:50:21] <miss0r> I love it when all the parts are in, and you can just go at it, no more waiting
[15:50:26] <hazzy-lab> how is the EDM?
[15:50:50] <miss0r> which one? :)
[15:50:57] <hazzy-lab> the big one!
[15:51:09] <miss0r> well.. its... big :)
[15:51:14] <miss0r> Its running
[15:51:20] <hazzy-lab> great!
[15:51:28] <miss0r> (not at this very moment, as I have no work for it at the moment)
[15:52:00] <miss0r> not that is was a particularly complicated relay replacement, infact, it was trivial. But I was not aided by the 20mm wire length lol
[15:58:18] <Wolf_> wire stretcher helps
[16:03:57] <miss0r> wolf_: I would just LOVE to own one :D
[16:04:57] <Wolf_> I keep wondering if I should have gotten a EDM from the auction
[16:05:04] <Wolf_> then I remember I have no space lol
[16:05:32] <XXCoder> just ask doctor who on how to solve that lol
[16:07:07] <Wolf_> smaller on the outside would help
[16:08:54] <miss0r> hehe :] Everyone should own an EDM
[16:10:33] <robotustra> what is EDM?
[16:12:17] <Wolf_> electronic dance music
[16:12:52] <robotustra> are you kidding me?
[16:12:57] <Wolf_> or Electrical discharge machining
[16:13:04] <robotustra> oh
[16:13:08] <robotustra> I have to build one
[16:13:09] <Wolf_> spark eroding
[16:13:16] <robotustra> for kids
[16:13:56] <robotustra> is it really useful for something at home?
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[16:14:48] <Wolf_> hmm, I’m thinking due to power needed and machine size, not so much
[16:14:59] <miss0r> Wolf_: nonsense !
[16:15:16] <miss0r> You can engrave the kids names in silverware with a badboy! There you go: home use
[16:15:26] <Wolf_> lol
[16:16:33] <robotustra> on a silver I could engrave
[16:16:48] <robotustra> I with a usual mill
[16:17:06] <Wolf_> good for burning out broken taps
[16:17:17] <miss0r> Yeah, but unless you have a bad endmill, you will make no sparks!
[16:17:19] <robotustra> or WC
[16:17:28] <Wolf_> cutting hardened tool steel
[16:17:45] <robotustra> tungsten carbide
[16:17:57] <miss0r> AND you can make a square inside corner in a pocket
[16:18:05] <Wolf_> really I dont know much about it
[16:18:23] <robotustra> I can broach corners
[16:18:49] <miss0r> not in tungsten carbide, you cant :D
[16:18:56] <robotustra> I think it consumes a lot of current
[16:19:05] <miss0r> Its not too bad, actualy
[16:19:17] <miss0r> I think my one is 2500watt at full power
[16:19:22] <robotustra> I can sharpen WC with diamond stuff
[16:19:46] <robotustra> it's like all my appartment consumption at max
[16:20:09] <robotustra> actually it like a welder
[16:20:25] <robotustra> what is the area of erosion?
[16:20:37] <Wolf_> depends on the machine
[16:21:33] <miss0r> not realy
[16:21:49] <robotustra> I would like to make FFF metal printer
[16:21:51] <miss0r> you can 'in theory' slap as big of an electrode in there as you feel like.
[16:22:28] <Wolf_> or small https://youtu.be lol
[16:22:29] <robotustra> at room temperature
[16:22:41] <miss0r> :D
[16:23:25] <robotustra> no, they didn't succeed
[16:24:20] <Wolf_> yeah, the guy with the lathe beat the EDM in drilling out a pencil lead
[16:25:53] <robotustra> commit; push; go home';
[16:27:00] <CaptHindsight> https://imgur.com which taper is that?
[16:27:38] <CaptHindsight> https://i.imgur.com
[16:27:39] <Wolf_> mt5 maybe?
[16:28:21] <Wolf_> mp4 is a clip from abom78
[16:29:08] <XXCoder> weird, it has english captions but no words at all lol
[16:31:10] <XXCoder> Wolf_: insanr
[16:32:06] <CaptHindsight> https://youtu.be Abom79
[16:32:31] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: ^^ was a clip from here like Wolf_ mentioned
[16:33:35] <Wolf_> he might have meant that crazy game show from japan that I linked
[16:33:53] <XXCoder> a hole though the pencil lead
[16:33:58] <XXCoder> no wood
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[16:43:03] <XXCoder> Wolf_: yeah
[16:43:49] <CaptHindsight> that show could never be on US TV....
[16:44:13] <CaptHindsight> all the maker types would be upset
[16:44:19] <gregcnc> not reality enough?
[16:44:44] <CaptHindsight> the people with the skills and equipment wouldn't want to give up their tricks
[16:45:17] <CaptHindsight> the maker types would be upset that they can't even come close to working on anything similar
[16:45:23] <gregcnc> probably why the "challenges" are ridiculous
[16:45:49] <CaptHindsight> the US challenges would be really dumb
[16:46:01] <XXCoder> They're trying to cut air pollution standards. I guess they miss being able to taste air
[16:46:20] <CaptHindsight> anything for a buck
[16:47:00] <XXCoder> mere money? doubtful
[16:47:08] <XXCoder> they want to taste air again, thats it.
[16:47:09] <gregcnc> shopping for web host sucks
[16:47:48] <CaptHindsight> the whole format of the show would have to be dumbed down as well
[16:48:33] <Wolf_> so something like americas got talent?
[16:48:36] <gregcnc> nah, just release a guide to drinking games with the show and it will be fine
[16:50:26] <XXCoder> just carefully control context, for example in snake in planes, don't drink on "motherfucker"
[16:50:31] <XXCoder> or you will die
[16:50:52] <Wolf_> lol there is other eps of that show https://youtu.be turning vs metal spinning titanium
[16:51:25] <gregcnc> https://www.reddit.com
[16:52:15] <XXCoder> Wolf_: all curved, essentally no grippable part at end? dang custom hold is needed
[16:52:38] <Wolf_> one piece no seams
[16:53:34] <gregcnc> the drama in the translation is surreal
[16:53:54] <Wolf_> yeah, only thing I hate about NHK world
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[17:02:52] <Deejay> gn8
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[19:52:58] <skunkworks> kids are sucked into short circuit
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[21:49:45] <roycroft> no disassemble!
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[22:01:10] <robotustra> delorie is a guy who build ornithopters?
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[22:01:36] <djdelorie> er, no?
[22:01:47] <robotustra> ok
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[22:02:42] <robotustra> ah, it was delaurier
[22:02:51] <robotustra> https://www.youtube.com
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[22:03:14] <robotustra> delaurier
[22:03:20] <robotustra> https://www.youtube.com
[22:03:36] <robotustra> Designer: James DeLaurier
[22:04:33] <djdelorie> no relationship
[22:05:58] <robotustra> ok
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