#linuxcnc | Logs for 2018-08-04

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[00:00:15] <`Wolf> not easy to look at a assembly print to find the issue lol
[00:00:22] <jesseg> and the notched belt 121 for the back gear was lined up very nicely too
[00:00:26] <robotustra> is the coolant stench?
[00:00:48] <jesseg> lol yeah these exploded diagrams would be useless if I wasn't looking at the actual machine LOL.
[00:00:58] <jesseg> But they are more clearly drawn then most of the ones I've seen for real bridgeports
[00:01:08] <`Wolf> true…
[00:01:33] <`Wolf> my Jet has some crazy drawings in the manual, sectional views of all the parts
[00:01:41] <jesseg> lol cool
[00:02:16] <`Wolf> cap 42 12-7, how much room is in there for the bearing? room to add a spacer at the top?
[00:03:26] <jesseg> `Wolf, yeah cap 42 has plenty of room. The bearing goes fully into it. I thought about putting a spacer to keep the bearing down lower but that would mean the bearing was only half supported on the outer race. I may make a replacement cap 42 that is correctly spaced.
[00:03:38] <jesseg> probably someone put the wrong cap on, now that you mention it. LOL.
[00:03:57] <`Wolf> or its just a poor design
[00:04:19] <jesseg> I can't believe they actually had a 1/4" error and went into production...
[00:04:32] <jesseg> but I suppose it's possible LOL.
[00:04:50] <jesseg> more likely someone put the cap from a different machine on
[00:04:58] <`Wolf> not optimal, but it did work all this time right? lol
[00:05:20] <hazzy-lab> robotustra: I am a nuclear engineer by training, so have done a lot of cool stuff with that, but few pictures. I did find a pic of an alpha detector i made: https://i.imgur.com
[00:06:15] <jesseg> `Wolf, oh yeah it worked fine. Just bloody noisy now so I started tearing it apart to find out why, and all the bearings were just worn out.
[00:06:28] <jesseg> hazzy-lab, that's a super cool detector
[00:06:43] <hazzy-lab> jesseg: I guess you know where the noise was coming from!
[00:06:46] <hazzy-lab> ty
[00:07:08] <`Wolf> making me feel like my skill sets are lacking =P
[00:07:13] <`Wolf> nice looking work
[00:07:48] <hazzy-lab> the tungsten detectors are really cool, but can't show :(
[00:08:37] <jesseg> hazzy-dev, lol yeah most of the main bearings had a gravely rumble to them even turning them by hand. I'm like "OK this isn't normal."
[00:08:54] <jesseg> could feel little flat spots while turning by hand. That'll make some noise with speed
[00:09:11] <`Wolf> lol, thats not good
[00:09:35] <hazzy-lab> hahaha, that is not good at all
[00:09:51] <hazzy-lab> how old is the mill?
[00:10:00] <`Wolf> I’m still dumbfounded on how quiet these 1.5hp motors are…
[00:10:12] <jesseg> hazzy-dev, it's like a 1996 model
[00:10:16] <jesseg> so what, 22 years?
[00:10:55] <hazzy-lab> oh, not old at all, younger than me, which is saying a lot!
[00:11:14] <hazzy-lab> Mine is from 71, it was really clapped out
[00:11:32] <`Wolf> my Jet is 1985
[00:11:38] <jesseg> Paid $1800 for it in a trashed state couple years ago, which was too much *but* it was less then a mile from my shop and I live in area where there just aren't good options for industrial machinery so I snapped it up :P
[00:12:09] <jesseg> so being close was an immense value...
[00:12:19] <jesseg> but now I'm trying to fix it up lol
[00:12:25] <XXCoder> transpoprtion would cost a lot
[00:12:25] <`Wolf> but my Jet was also a single owner machine
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[00:12:48] <hazzy-lab> yeah, it pays to find one close, riggers are expensive ..
[00:13:03] <`Wolf> whats riggers?
[00:13:31] <`Wolf> https://i.imgur.com
[00:13:35] <jesseg> in my case, a friend had a tilting flatbed, and the seller had a forklift, and I had some 3" round pipe sections LOL.
[00:13:56] <`Wolf> I got to pull mine out of a basement, with steps…
[00:14:08] <jesseg> yikes
[00:14:28] <jesseg> makes my toes and fingers bleed just to think about it
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[00:14:53] <`Wolf> I did some creative rigging to get it out
[00:15:35] <jesseg> `Wolf, hazzy-lab - thanks very much for taking a look at my thing here, really appreciate it. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't overlooking something obvious :D When I start getting it all back together I'll keep an eye out for what might have been assembled wrong. I may be able to modify the top bearing plate so the alignment is correct.
[00:15:50] <jesseg> `Wolf, I'll bet you did some bloody creative rigging :P
[00:16:04] <hazzy-lab> I don't believe in riggers, LOL: https://i.imgur.com https://i.imgur.com
[00:16:05] <`Wolf> might be the best bet making a new top thinger
[00:16:33] <`Wolf> lol hazzy-lab
[00:16:49] <hazzy-lab> jesseg: absolutely, keep us posted on the progress
[00:16:58] <jesseg> `Wolf, yeah, the top cap thing is a simple round shape easily made on a lathe. May even be able to just turn the flange thinner to make it set deeper.
[00:17:10] <jesseg> hazzy-lab, oh I will, you'll all be tired of me by the end of it :D
[00:17:30] <`Wolf> wasn’t that creative, just used a chain fall to pull it out the door in to the stairwell then up to the forks, then it was just lift and set it on the trailer with the machine
[00:17:59] <jesseg> hazzy-dev, hahaha.. poor little pickup. but yeah.. whatever gets the mill home.
[00:18:30] <hazzy-lab> jesseg: it was a pretty long trip, lol
[00:18:46] <hazzy-lab> truck is rated to 1500, it had 2200lbs in it xD
[00:18:56] <`Wolf> so glad I have my truck for stuff like that https://i.imgur.com :P
[00:18:59] <jesseg> I guess I was blessed with easy delivery. Sellers of both the lathe and the mill had forklifts and they just set it on my friend's tilting car hauler trailer, so upon arival, we just tilted and rolled it on pipes
[00:19:14] <robotustra> hazzy-lab, what are strings in the device? is it for magnetic field creation?
[00:19:26] <hazzy-lab> `Wolf: that is cheating at life, haha
[00:19:49] <`Wolf> next I need to build a flatbed so I can bring my spare forklift here to the other shop location
[00:20:17] <`Wolf> only 6k lbs so I can put the forklift on the back of the truck lol
[00:20:26] <hazzy-lab> robotustra: yes, those are .00175" tungsten wires that are at -10kV, the plate it at 0v, so very high eletric field
[00:21:10] <robotustra> is it a camera for radioactive gases?
[00:21:10] <hazzy-lab> `Wolf: that would be sweet!
[00:22:21] <`Wolf> https://i.imgur.com https://i.imgur.com
[00:22:29] <robotustra> ah, it's a vacuum chamber
[00:22:34] <`Wolf> pretty common for me to move heavy stuffs
[00:24:52] <hazzy-lab> robotustra: more or less. when an alpha particle (a helium-4 nucleus) enters the electric field it causes the wires to spark to the ground plate, and the spark can be detected by a pulse counter. The number of sparks per minute is used for determining the radioactivity of a substance
[00:25:08] <hazzy-lab> robotustra: it is filled with nitrogen
[00:25:39] <hazzy-lab> `Wolf: man, i like that bed!!
[00:25:49] <robotustra> hazzy-lab, ok, no need so much details, I'm physicist too :)
[00:26:06] <robotustra> solid state physics
[00:26:06] <hazzy-lab> robotustra: excellent!
[00:26:19] <hazzy-lab> I did not know
[00:26:27] * `Wolf has no idea wtf any of that stuff means
[00:26:38] <robotustra> I quit teaching in 2010
[00:26:41] <`Wolf> I’m just a metal glue gun operator
[00:26:44] <robotustra> and moved to canada
[00:27:11] <jesseg> hazzy-dev, I needed the details :D
[00:27:21] <hazzy-lab> robotustra: are you still in Canada?
[00:27:29] <robotustra> yes
[00:27:30] <hazzy-lab> I have family there
[00:27:39] <robotustra> you've told me
[00:27:43] <robotustra> in mtl
[00:27:45] <hazzy-lab> oh, lol
[00:27:50] <`Wolf> hazzy-lab: that bed is such a POS lol was a $500 craigslist special
[00:28:22] <robotustra> I go sleep, see you tomorrow
[00:28:28] <`Wolf> thing is so out of place on that truck
[00:29:11] <hazzy-lab> robotustra: night
[00:29:49] <`Wolf> but I can’t see forking out close to $3k for a new dump bed
[00:30:50] <hazzy-lab> it looks like it gets the job done
[00:31:10] <`Wolf> right now its not, tailgate fell off of it and floor is rusted out lol
[00:32:36] <hazzy-lab> :D
[00:32:41] <hazzy-lab> ok then
[00:32:49] <`Wolf> I only got the dump bed for snow removal contract anyways so I’m not worried about it, we just had 2 people put in orders for flat beds so I’ll build a couple for my truck at the same time
[00:33:08] <hazzy-lab> nice!
[00:34:29] <`Wolf> not much to them https://i.imgur.com
[00:39:14] <`Wolf> I still need to replace the hydraulic valve block on the hook and build a pendant system for it
[00:40:32] <`Wolf> that might be fun, somehow stumble through coding a wired/wireless arduino setup to PWM the valve coils
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[00:47:06] <jesseg> hey would you guys put these bearings in your spindle motor? lol https://www.mscdirect.com
[00:47:13] <jesseg> they are half the cost of SKF
[00:48:11] <`Wolf> probably not
[00:48:15] <Tom_L> looks like half the quality too
[00:48:21] <jesseg> lol that's kind of the feeling I'm getting
[00:48:42] <jesseg> I'll probably just stick SKF in there
[00:48:44] <`Wolf> I’ll see if I can get ahold of my surplus guy tomorrow
[00:49:37] <jesseg> `Wolf, ok wonderful! Thank you so much! I'll hold off ordering for a day or two. Don't want to wait too long lest I forget how it all goes back together LOL :D
[00:52:37] <jesseg> `Wolf, I know the numbers I gave you mostly ended in ZZ, but in reality, LB or 2RS extensions would also work (and actually be preferable) - Important thing is size and obviously not Chinese junk :D
[00:53:08] <`Wolf> yeah, I already noted that
[00:53:13] <XXCoder> hmm trying to remember who helped me figure clothes washer issues?
[00:53:26] <`Wolf> I’ll see what I can find in what size first lol
[00:53:33] <jesseg> thanks so much!
[00:53:40] <XXCoder> because new dog ears worked great, just that theres also some other issue because its not rotating but motor turns on
[00:53:43] <`Wolf> he is a whole 15mins from my house
[00:54:04] <`Wolf> I think Tom L was helping ya with that
[00:54:20] <`Wolf> but I know a little about fixing them things as well
[00:54:25] <jesseg> `Wolf, would it help if I made a list by dimensions in mm? or is the 4 digit codes sufficiently universal? Seems mine are all deep grove.
[00:54:43] <`Wolf> 4 is fine seeing thats whats on the boxes
[00:54:51] <jesseg> excellent
[00:55:15] <`Wolf> knowing him, he might just try to sell me the whole lot
[00:55:22] <jesseg> LOL
[00:56:03] <`Wolf> I first met him looking for rexnor conveyor wheels, I ended up with all he had for $75
[00:56:38] <jesseg> LOL!
[00:56:40] <`Wolf> so now I have like 400 conveyor belt drive gears lol
[00:57:17] <`Wolf> https://i.imgur.com
[00:57:44] <jesseg> haha now what are you gonna do?
[00:58:01] <`Wolf> I need to sort/spread sheet them, then list on eBay
[00:58:20] <`Wolf> I sorted them, but I need to figure out better storage for them
[00:58:35] <jesseg> gotcha
[00:59:03] <`Wolf> he had them listed by part number, which doesn’t mean much because its a internal part number lol
[00:59:14] <jesseg> roger
[01:00:26] <`Wolf> he has a fun mess of stuff over there for sure lol
[01:00:37] <jesseg> sounds like it
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[01:04:21] <`Wolf> like I figured out the other day that he has a 4’ stack of deltronic plug gages sitting there
[01:05:07] <jesseg> cool
[01:06:01] <`Wolf> which I really want plug gages and missed them at auction
[01:07:17] <jesseg> so were you able to get from him the plug gauges you need?
[01:07:28] <`Wolf> https://www.ebay.com
[01:07:40] <`Wolf> thats part of the reason I need to go over there
[01:07:58] <jesseg> Gotcha -- you were looking at photos and you seen what you wanted
[01:07:59] <`Wolf> he has a stack of these things ^ (random ebay link)
[01:08:16] <XXCoder> is those gauge rods?
[01:08:18] <jesseg> yeah gotcha
[01:08:36] <jesseg> is that so you can tell how big of a plug it'd take to ram into a hole and have it stay?
[01:08:42] <`Wolf> I didn’t know what they were when I saw them, then the other night was watching a oxtool vid and he was using a set lol
[01:08:55] <`Wolf> like gage pins
[01:10:03] <`Wolf> but its like 0.7500” then the set goes +/- in 0.00001 steps or something
[01:10:14] <jesseg> amazing.
[01:10:17] <XXCoder> whoa
[01:10:32] <jesseg> have to check the room temperature when using them lol
[01:10:41] <`Wolf> oh 0.0001
[01:10:45] <`Wolf> too many 0
[01:10:48] <XXCoder> what a dumbass https://www.king5.com
[01:11:03] <XXCoder> .0001" is TIGHT tol for gauge rod.
[01:11:16] <XXCoder> work oens vary by .0002" .0005" for larger rods
[01:11:30] <XXCoder> smaller ones .0002" or so
[01:12:05] <`Wolf> look at the set I linked, thats 1” with range of 0.9988-1.0012”
[01:12:51] <`Wolf> 25 pins lol
[01:13:47] <`Wolf> so it is 0.0001” steps
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[01:15:37] <`Wolf> If I ever start doing real work I’m going to go broke getting everything certified lol
[01:18:31] <jesseg> that guy is crazy to get out of his car and charge such a big animal..
[01:18:55] <XXCoder> `Wolf: honestly start with your mics and calipers
[01:18:58] <jesseg> I wish the camera hadn't moved just as the animal went for him though
[01:19:11] <XXCoder> pins you can label "confirm with certified tool before use"
[01:19:29] <XXCoder> same for gauge blocks
[01:19:33] <`Wolf> i was just thinking that lol
[01:19:37] <XXCoder> that cuts a lot of expense
[01:19:37] <roycroft> that guy is from pendleton
[01:19:43] <roycroft> barely an oregonian
[01:19:48] <roycroft> almost an idahoan :)
[01:19:52] <XXCoder> so whats remaining is your dial test indictor, dial indictor, and height gauge
[01:19:55] <jesseg> you know I use these cheapo $14 chinese digital calipers because I'm a hobbiest. But I'm always surprised when I put them on a ball bearing and they often read exactly like 75.00mm
[01:20:08] <XXCoder> those should be enough for basics of certified stuff
[01:20:38] <XXCoder> jesseg: its pretty easy, though no certification, and no quantuees its temperate stable
[01:21:19] <`Wolf> my calipers and mic were still inside calibration date for the stickers on them when I got them lol
[01:21:25] <XXCoder> nice
[01:21:35] <jesseg> XXCoder, and I suppose there could be non-linearities that favor even mm readings too lol
[01:21:43] <XXCoder> my 1950s mic was certifced last at 2012 when I got it at 2016
[01:21:46] <jesseg> in the case of my cheap digital calipers
[01:22:10] <XXCoder> and MAN! its in GREAT shape.
[01:22:37] <XXCoder> I later bought 1980s one, it has QA engraved on it. I hope its due to shop closing and not walk out of shop
[01:22:51] <XXCoder> condition is virtually like new
[01:23:40] <`Wolf> guy I bought them off of was a tool maker at sandivc (0-1 mic, 6” mitu calipers and 0.0001” DTI )
[01:27:36] <`Wolf> and I spelled Sandvik wrong lol
[01:29:40] <XXCoder> nice
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[01:30:59] <`Wolf> I have a crazy amount of metrology stuff piling up lol
[01:31:33] <jesseg> I'm pretty sure Heisenberg is living in my code.
[01:31:55] <jesseg> Problem vanishes when I put in some statements to help me troubleshoot LOL
[01:32:07] <`Wolf> lol
[01:33:51] <`Wolf> XXCoder: https://i.imgur.com
[01:34:36] <XXCoder> ya remember that pic
[01:34:42] <XXCoder> pretty amazing
[01:35:16] <`Wolf> thats all the stuff I almost never use lol
[01:36:45] <`Wolf> still need to figure out what I’m going to use this die filer for
[01:37:52] <`Wolf> kinda wonder if I could use it as a micro biax scraper
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[01:57:53] <XXCoder> dunno
[01:58:36] <`Wolf> guess only one way to find out lol
[02:04:10] <XXCoder> yeah
[02:04:52] <hazzy-lab> night all
[02:05:30] <XXCoder> night
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[02:14:05] <jesseg> nighters hazzy-dev
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[03:13:34] <Deejay> moin
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[03:18:20] <jesseg> Good Morning
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[06:15:44] <jthornton> morning
[06:17:55] <miss0r> mornin
[06:18:14] <miss0r> I just ordered an 8mm endmill with a total length of 150mm and also a 12mm one with the same length
[06:18:40] <miss0r> Apparently my local tool pusher did not have these lengths in 8mm.. So, ebay chinesium it is
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[06:24:41] <SpeedEvil> Carbide?
[07:08:54] <miss0r> yeah
[07:09:03] <miss0r> SpeedEvil: ^
[07:12:34] <miss0r> I have been reading up on making a threading dial for my lathe. All I've found so far is that I need more than one dial for all the different metric threading options. :S So what I want to know: if I only ever want to be able to make a single start thread - should it not be possible to make a single dial for all the different pitches?
[07:17:58] <miss0r> I'll be back later.
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[07:33:52] <miss0r> Don't you just love looking at "precision" stuff on ebay and read the following at the bottom: "Please allow 1-3cm errors due to manual measurement."
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[07:37:39] <Deejay> yeah, its precisely 3cm off
[07:37:54] <miss0r> as long as you can count on it :P
[07:38:05] <miss0r> I was looking at a angle block set.
[07:40:42] <miss0r> Can any of you guys recommend a decent dividing head for chinesium prices?
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[08:02:58] <fragalot> hey
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[08:05:37] <sealive> hi all
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[08:09:29] <sealive> varesa|, online
[08:10:44] <sealive> jesseg, the bugs love that heat
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[08:43:41] <SpeedEvil> miss0r: no idea.
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[09:08:23] <jthornton> hazzy-dev: you around?
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[09:43:25] <tiwake> https://images.anandtech.com
[09:43:48] <tiwake> is that the same latency that linuxCNC measures?
[09:44:31] <tiwake> actually probably not, because its a windows thing
[09:44:53] <tiwake> https://www.anandtech.com at the bottom
[09:46:50] <tiwake> donno how meaningful those numbers are
[09:50:00] <pcw_home> Windows is not a RTOS so those numbers are probably averages
[09:50:23] <tiwake> right
[09:50:35] <tiwake> also it looks like they are just measuring audio
[09:52:14] <tiwake> don't have the X450, but I do have an AsRock X370 tachi and the same AsRock B350 gaming K4 listed
[09:52:51] <tiwake> the nice thing about AsRock is they give you ALL the firmware options for tweaking
[09:57:09] <tiwake> I should make a live USB of linuxCNC and measure some stuff on my B350 motherboard
[10:11:14] <tiwake> does coreboot help linuxCNC?
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[10:34:55] <pcw_home> It might give you access to more controls than a simplified BIOs and perhaps disable ME on Intel MBs
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[10:52:21] <sealive> hi all
[10:52:33] <sealive> its super heat here
[10:52:36] <hazzy-lab> hi Ichs
[10:52:38] <sealive> no wind at all
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[10:54:46] <JT-Shop> hazzy-lab: took me a bit but I finally figured out how you did the group box :)
[10:55:26] <hazzy-lab> JT-Shop: excellent! Layouts can be kinda a pain to work with ...
[10:55:28] <sealive> if you group things it is quit easy to pattern
[10:56:35] <jesseg> Howdy sealive -- I just got up, saw your comment about the bugs liking the heat... what bugs? what heat?
[10:57:18] <enleth> what's the most common customary way to format a size of stock/goods/whatever in inches - 20"x30" or 20x30"?
[10:57:57] <jesseg> enleth, I think the latter
[10:58:08] <jesseg> but the former is OK too I think
[10:58:16] <jthornton> I would do 20" x 30' as the units might not be the same
[10:58:22] <sealive> jesseg, in your system
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[10:59:04] <jesseg> sealive, LOL oh yeah.. except weather has been very mild here last few days
[10:59:41] <sealive> alphabet analytics now saying Linuxcnc has lost 91% since higest rate
[10:59:58] <sealive> on a 24hour scale
[11:00:03] <jesseg> but anyway I think I got them solved last night. I was assuming that an increment of an unsigned char was an atomic operation -- but on avr it's not, it's a load, increment, store -- and it was getting split (and modified) by an ISR call lol
[11:00:16] <robotustra> ьщктштп
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[11:00:23] <robotustra> morning solly
[11:00:23] * jthornton wanders off to get a proper ground around the gates for the hot wire
[11:00:30] <robotustra> sorry :)
[11:00:36] <sealive> jesseg, i solved a new operation on Freecad https://youtu.be FIRST TEST
[11:02:01] <sealive> it will not find a way to the system but it can be done
[11:02:42] <jesseg> sealive, wow cool!
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[11:22:19] <sealive> off trill ?
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[11:31:53] <roycroft> do any of you folks do your own anodizing?
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[11:34:38] <jthornton> I started to but never fired it up
[11:34:57] <roycroft> the process is pretty simple
[11:35:07] <jthornton> gathered up everything I needed including a water cooler
[11:35:14] <roycroft> i just wonder how consistent the results are with small batches
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[11:35:46] <jthornton> from what I've read if your process is accurate the parts come out the same
[11:35:58] <roycroft> i got a quote on anodizing some prototype parts and it was a $90 minimum, and that's if they dye with whatever color they're using at the moment
[11:36:27] <roycroft> the key seems to be having a decent current-regulated power supply
[11:36:59] <jthornton> yea I get some parts anodized and there is a minimum charge
[11:37:37] <roycroft> i can probably put together an anodizing setup for <$300
[11:37:40] <jthornton> yea I have a nice one and an acid pump to circulate the acid with the old water fountain cooler to keep the acid temperature down
[11:37:45] <roycroft> which would be the cost of less than 4 prototypes
[11:38:03] <jthornton> I think I paid more than that for the power supply
[11:38:12] <roycroft> you easily can :)
[11:39:03] <roycroft> my initial parts will be ~1in square and ~28in long
[11:39:08] <roycroft> kind of an awkward size
[11:39:26] <roycroft> but i'm thinking i could make "tanks" out of pvc plumbing
[11:41:01] <roycroft> i'm not sure how i'd keep the dye baths warm if i'm using pfc tubing
[11:41:04] <roycroft> pvc
[11:41:25] <roycroft> but i did consider that i could use the hot liquor tank for my brew system, whose temperature i can regulate very closely
[11:41:40] <roycroft> fill it with water, and dip the dye tube into it
[11:42:07] <roycroft> if i'm careful none of the dye would ever leak out to conataminate the tank, so i'm not really concerned about that
[11:42:17] <jesseg> roycroft, I've never done aluminum, but I've experimented with titanium anodizing because you can get amazing colors based on what voltage you use.
[11:43:56] <jthornton> this is all the info I've gathered on anodizing http://gnipsel.com
[11:44:06] <roycroft> titanium wire is often used for aluminium anodizing
[11:44:11] <roycroft> thanks, jt!
[11:45:21] <jthornton> someplace I have a copy of moonlight anodizing book
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[11:50:38] <hazzy-lab> hello Erik!
[11:51:19] <hazzy-lab> You have to register to be able to talk here, or you can join #hazzy
[11:51:23] <hazzy-lab> just type
[11:51:31] <hazzy-lab> "/join #hazzy"
[11:51:39] <hazzy-lab> without the ""s
[11:52:14] <roycroft> i have a 22L ultrasonic cleaner now that i keep filled with simple green, so cleaning/degreasing in preparation for anodizing is no problem for smaller parts
[11:52:39] <roycroft> i do know that preparation is everything for both anodizing and plating
[12:00:15] <jdh> https://i.imgur.com
[12:06:05] <fragalot> hey
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[12:06:42] <fragalot> jdh: guaranteed for life, IF you manage to return them, :P
[12:06:48] <fragalot> the 10mm always goes missing
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[12:12:53] <miss0r> fragalot: Have you completed your gibs?
[12:13:03] <roycroft> that zip file has exactly what i need, jt. thanks again!
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[12:16:27] <fragalot> miss0r: I've completed one gib, the Y. but I'm not super happy with the results atm
[12:17:12] <miss0r> Whats wrong with it?
[12:17:14] <fragalot> at full travel towards me, where the table overhangs by like half it's length, it has .01mm play in it (happy with that), but at the other end, it's .04mm
[12:18:04] <fragalot> so.. Something is off still :P
[12:18:21] <miss0r> Well.. That amount of play is very much within specs on that size mill?
[12:18:45] <fragalot> yea, but..
[12:18:50] <miss0r> i know
[12:18:56] <fragalot> :Pµ
[12:19:01] <miss0r> :]
[12:19:12] <fragalot> https://photos.app.goo.gl
[12:19:47] <miss0r> I would expect better surface contact from you! :]
[12:19:50] <fragalot> https://photos.app.goo.gl
[12:20:22] <miss0r> cute.
[12:21:04] <fragalot> for the static side, that's good enough. sliding side is slightly finer
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[12:21:35] <miss0r> theres no such thing as 'good enough', Theres perfect or shit. Now wich one is it?
[12:21:38] <fragalot> but it doesn't make sense to go far above 20 points as the contact surface is just milled (granted, with a ground-like finish)
[12:21:54] <miss0r> yeah :]
[12:21:59] <fragalot> it's perfectly adequate for the POS it's going in :P
[12:22:16] <miss0r> Thats the spirit !
[12:22:24] <fragalot> the X however is going to be fun
[12:22:38] <miss0r> when you say fun, do you infact mean: pain in the a** ?
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[12:23:02] <fragalot> this Y already took a full day because I either didn't measure the angle right on it when I drew it up, or the other guy made it longer but kept the dimensions at the edges
[12:23:29] <miss0r> haha
[12:23:29] <fragalot> and taking off .5mm on one end whilst keeping the other the same, and keeping it nice and parallel in the other direction takes a while
[12:23:35] <fragalot> if you can't machine it
[12:23:44] <fragalot> after bending it straight, of course
[12:23:49] <miss0r> lol
[12:23:51] <fragalot> the X gib is all catty wompus
[12:23:56] <miss0r> I'm sure the machine will end up nice!
[12:24:05] <miss0r> Don't loose faith man!
[12:24:16] <fragalot> https://photos.app.goo.gl
[12:24:24] <fragalot> that's after I already took out most of the bend
[12:24:35] <fragalot> more to go, but I need to escape the heat for a while :P
[12:24:51] <Wolf__> I’m still waiting on my book so I can start learning how to do that stuff...
[12:25:17] <miss0r> wolf__: I've never read a book on scraping. I just started watching youtube
[12:25:29] <miss0r> Since then I've read some material on the matter.
[12:25:36] <fragalot> Wolf__: the only piece of advise I can give is: focus on area rather than points for far longer than you think you should.
[12:25:40] <miss0r> fragalot: I've got aircon in the shop :
[12:25:47] <fragalot> miss0r: asshole;
[12:25:47] <fragalot> :D
[12:25:53] <Wolf__> more so about keeping machine alignment
[12:26:05] <miss0r> fragalot: At the moment mine isn't sweating, how about yours?
[12:26:13] <fragalot> absolutely sodden
[12:26:17] <miss0r> xD
[12:26:56] <fragalot> miss0r: so.. I may have slipped yesterday
[12:27:02] <fragalot> and bought a peopoly moai
[12:27:46] <Wolf__> I get the concepts of making something flat and parallel, but doing that on the machine is a different story
[12:28:16] <fragalot> Wolf__: basically, it involves a lot of specialized jigs
[12:28:39] <fragalot> main thing is to keep common sense, and not make any mistakes. :-)
[12:29:23] <miss0r> fragalot: I assume that means you are moving back in with your parents, preferably in their basement
[12:29:58] <fragalot> hehe
[12:30:34] <Wolf__> https://i.imgur.com https://i.imgur.com probably not the best beginner project? lol
[12:30:45] <miss0r> And here I was thinking, you were trying to climb the evolutional ladder, not branch off on a short leaf
[12:30:46] <miss0r> :)
[12:31:18] <fragalot> Wolf__: that looks like it could use a lot of love
[12:31:19] <miss0r> wolf__: not the worst either. All the surfaces are accessable
[12:31:38] <Wolf__> yeah, table comes off easy
[12:31:50] <Wolf__> just drop the drive chain
[12:31:57] <miss0r> :]
[12:32:32] <miss0r> Back to the mill..
[12:32:42] <fragalot> miss0r: I figured my other 3D printer is ... 7 years old now? something like that?
[12:32:52] <miss0r> so?
[12:33:02] <fragalot> means it's written off and I need a 2nd one
[12:33:03] <fragalot> obviously
[12:33:06] <Wolf__> still annoyed that there is a richard king scraping class 5hrs away and I couldn’t make it =/
[12:33:12] <miss0r> haha.. alright :]
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[12:33:45] <miss0r> I had to order two chinesium carbide endmills today
[12:33:52] <fragalot> 'had to' ?
[12:34:02] <fragalot> i've actually not had many problems with the chinese carbide endmills
[12:34:05] <miss0r> yeah. I needed them, and my local tool pusher didn't have'em
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[12:34:19] <miss0r> 8x150 and 12x150
[12:34:25] <fragalot> as long as you don't expect them to all be within exact tolerances they actually work pretty well
[12:34:41] <miss0r> my own tool pusher didn't stock longer than 8x120 for some reason
[12:34:50] <miss0r> (because 8x150 is ridiculous)
[12:34:55] <fragalot> :P
[12:35:03] <miss0r> But I need it nontheless
[12:35:05] <fragalot> only 19D
[12:35:16] <miss0r> yeah, I better run that thing _SLOW_
[12:35:32] <miss0r> err: run light cuts only.
[12:35:34] <fragalot> or fast but low contact
[12:35:38] <miss0r> ;)
[12:35:58] <fragalot> can your mill even go high enough in RPM for an 8mm carbide endmill? :P
[12:36:11] <miss0r> Ofcorse it cant !
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[12:36:24] <fragalot> miss0r: https://www.phantom.eu
[12:36:26] <miss0r> well, it can - but I need to keep the feed down ;)
[12:36:52] <fragalot> 6x150 :P
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[12:37:05] <miss0r> I can do 4000rpm, which allows me to use down to 6mm 4 flute with some success. But using smaller endmills than that is just a pain
[12:37:39] <fragalot> they also do 4 flute if you want /SOME/ rigidit.. ah who am I kidding it's going to chatter like mad anyway :D
[12:37:42] <miss0r> for some reason 3x75 sounds more crazy to me.. :) but I have a few of those, and they do pretty well
[12:38:19] <miss0r> ye of little faith! Nothing a pair of ear protectors with build in MP3 player turned to max volume won't fix :D
[12:38:27] <fragalot> baha
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[12:38:50] <miss0r> 'cause we all know, chatter is *ONLY* an acoustics issue
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[12:42:22] <fragalot> miss0r: some solid advice:
[12:42:24] <fragalot> if it chatters
[12:42:25] <fragalot> go harder
[12:42:48] <miss0r> :D
[12:43:12] <fragalot> I guarantee if you go hard enough the noise will go away
[12:43:14] <miss0r> well, 'sometimes' that is exactly what is needed though.
[12:44:08] <miss0r> I look at it another way: theres a finite amount of noise in an endmill. To make it go away you can just push it hard enough to release it all in a BANG and have some nice silence afterwards
[12:44:27] <fragalot> Exactly.
[12:45:03] <Roguish> miss0r: good point. let the noise out. kinda like letting the magic smoke out of electronics.
[12:46:02] <miss0r> yeah :)
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[12:50:16] <sealive> hi
[12:50:22] <fragalot> Hi
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[13:00:18] <sealive> monday is school start the teatchers are asking in
[13:00:46] <sealive> can we PLEASE make a advice on the cnc you created during Holiday
[13:01:16] <fragalot> ?
[13:01:49] <sealive> the principels informed the teatchers by mail on the new system updates they insrtalled
[13:02:20] <sealive> and some panic the changes
[13:02:40] <sealive> i wrote back make theory not pratice
[13:05:55] <sealive> im off starting BBq firer today personly as major is not in town
[13:06:01] <sealive> GN8
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[13:13:16] <miss0r> wtf just happened?
[13:14:17] <fragalot> Ich's gave us a status update
[13:14:27] <jesseg> I think that's what happens when one is overcome by the urge to light the general's grill.
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[13:23:40] <jesseg> Yikes. $84 for new break shoe for my mill head? what if I just glue on some heavy duty boot leather that's the right thickness? LOL.
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[13:25:00] <jesseg> or maybe I could get break shoes for a geo metro and trim them down LOL
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[13:35:57] <miss0r> Hello. My name is miss0r, and I use cardboard as softjaws.
[13:36:15] <hazzy-lab> lol
[13:36:17] <hazzy-lab> me too
[13:36:37] <miss0r> 1. Awareness and Early Acknowledgement
[13:37:04] <miss0r> :]
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[13:37:32] <miss0r> Just make damn sure your operation is complete before the cardboard starts to slip apart :D
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[13:37:56] <roycroft> i use leather soft jaws in my woodworking vises
[13:38:05] <fragalot> same
[13:38:09] <roycroft> that might work for metals as well
[13:38:22] <roycroft> if you're holding something soft like brass or aluminium
[13:38:30] <fragalot> i'm also using leather in my engineers vice
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[13:40:20] <miss0r> Fucking serial connection!
[13:40:25] <miss0r> excuse my french
[13:41:16] <miss0r> I always look at the cnc controller when I started a transfer, just to see if it has started receiving. I didn't do that now - and it wasn't recieving anything. So, I waited all of 12 minuts for the code to transfer, only to find nothing on the receiving end!
[13:41:18] <miss0r> *sigh*
[13:41:48] <fragalot> mod it so it plays dial-up modem sounds during transfer
[13:42:00] <fragalot> the baud rate is low enough for it to do that ifyou just connect a speaker....
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[13:43:56] <miss0r> No kidding :)
[13:44:08] <miss0r> I actualy managed to up the speed from 2400baud to 4800
[13:44:23] <miss0r> Only to find the controller can't eat the data any faster than it already was :D
[13:44:41] <miss0r> Anyway, now it should run. brb
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[13:46:25] <Roguish> miss0r: actually 'fuck' is very old english, from as far back as 1400's. more over now, it's pretty universal.
[13:47:49] <jesseg> so would that be like "Please pardon my old English" lol
[13:48:51] <Roguish> one of George Carlin's 7 words.............
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[14:00:09] <miss0r> :D
[14:00:19] <miss0r> next time i'll go for merde
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[15:44:34] <`Wolf> jesseg: checking on them bearings in about a hour
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[15:53:13] <skunkworks> thank goodness for vacuum cleaners when cutting cast iron...
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[15:58:05] <hazzy-lab> log
[15:58:21] <hazzy-lab> logs
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[15:58:29] <hazzy-lab> hi
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[16:01:00] <skunkworks> Hi
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[16:02:45] <hazzy-lab> Lcvette[m]: can you talk?
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[16:03:27] <hazzy-lab> or are you dumb?
[16:03:31] <hazzy-lab> lol
[16:03:52] <hazzy-lab> you need to register the matrix nick
[16:04:20] <XXCoder> [m] makes me think guys using some web client. not sure if can register nick and such
[16:05:14] <hazzy-lab> XXCoder: yeah, it is matrix
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[16:05:24] <XXCoder> ah
[16:05:46] <hazzy-lab> there has to be some way to register, but I cant figure it out
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[16:06:09] <hazzy-lab> I finally got my log bot registered, that was a pain
[16:06:10] <XXCoder> I love it. https://teechip.com
[16:06:23] <hazzy-lab> lol
[16:09:08] <XXCoder> someone liked my reply in fb, and I orginially posted it 5 weeks ago. lol
[16:12:23] <hazzy-m> test from the matrix
[16:12:28] <hazzy-lab> hurray!
[16:12:36] <XXCoder> why hurray?
[16:12:50] <XXCoder> 5 weeks reponese is bit strange on fb
[16:13:01] <hazzy-lab> I got matrix to identify with as me
[16:13:22] <XXCoder> drat was trying to make you think your register didnt work
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[16:13:25] <XXCoder> :)
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[16:14:20] <XXCoder> looks like still lots bots attacking freenode
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[16:15:59] <hazzy-lab> XXCoder: lol
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[16:16:22] <hazzy-lab> yes, the #pyqt chan is completely inundated with spam
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[16:16:55] <XXCoder> go in #freenode and report it, one of admins will enter there and that person has automated kickban
[16:17:07] <XXCoder> so it will still get spam but cut much shorter
[16:17:34] <XXCoder> best can do till op can quiet on unregistered
[16:17:49] <jesseg> `Wolf, great! Thank you so much!
[16:18:07] <jesseg> I've been outside trying to rig up my GPS guided sprinkler robot from a couple years ago.
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[16:18:39] <hazzy-lab> XXCoder: thanks! will do
[16:19:00] <XXCoder> no problem
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[16:19:41] <XXCoder> you wont be able to see others (nonadmins) talk so just explain a bit and admin will see it
[16:19:57] <XXCoder> cant say hi to you there because of this lol
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[16:22:29] <XXCoder> Couple of scientists had kids, they named one Justin and other one Control
[16:22:35] <XXCoder> *twins
[16:26:11] <hazzy-lab> lol
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[16:29:54] <Lcvette[m]> hello
[16:30:02] <hazzy-lab> hurray!
[16:30:05] <XXCoder> yay
[16:30:11] <Lcvette[m]> hurray!!!
[16:30:17] <Lcvette[m]> hahaha
[16:30:29] <Lcvette[m]> \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/
[16:33:17] <XXCoder> wow lcv turned into quantnt and all 5 cheered
[16:34:21] <Lcvette[m]> that represents my code-fu belt level
[16:34:23] <Lcvette[m]> waaaaa
[16:35:35] <Lcvette[m]> what im neglecting to tell is that the scale is global population....lol
[16:36:03] <XXCoder> so youre saying youre better than total of 5 people in world?
[16:36:08] <XXCoder> man youre underrating yourself
[16:36:44] <Lcvette[m]> hahaha
[16:37:03] <Lcvette[m]> perhaps maybe i code at a 5 year old level then
[16:37:59] <Lcvette[m]> i don't really code at all
[16:37:59] <hazzy-lab> hahaha
[16:38:10] <hazzy-lab> yes you do to!
[16:38:19] <hazzy-lab> c'mon man
[16:38:20] <Lcvette[m]> i ask hazzy how to do somethign and he say paste this there
[16:38:36] <Lcvette[m]> lol
[16:38:43] <Lcvette[m]> maybe a little
[16:38:53] <Lcvette[m]> but only small things
[16:39:10] <Lcvette[m]> graphics
[16:39:14] <Lcvette[m]> stuff
[16:39:15] <Lcvette[m]> qss stuff
[16:39:30] <Lcvette[m]> getting the hang of that a bit
[16:39:57] <Lcvette[m]> qtdesigner 5 and some qss commands
[16:39:59] <Lcvette[m]> in the stylesheet
[16:40:01] <hazzy-lab> remember, a week ago you refused to ever even try to learn QSS ..
[16:40:04] <hazzy-lab> much progress
[16:40:05] <hazzy-lab> lol
[16:40:19] <Lcvette[m]> but thats all thanks to Hazzy's expert tutaledge
[16:40:34] <Lcvette[m]> indeed
[16:45:07] <XXCoder> :)
[16:46:30] <XXCoder> hazzy-lab: that channel better now?
[16:46:53] <hazzy-lab> Much better!
[16:46:58] <hazzy-lab> Vengeance is sweet
[16:47:04] <XXCoder> :)
[16:47:37] <hazzy-lab> thank you, I should have done that sooner
[16:48:46] <XXCoder> no problem
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[16:55:05] <Lcvette[m]> xxcoder did you get a motor too
[16:55:25] <XXCoder> motor for what?
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[16:56:18] <Lcvette[m]> sorry thought you and hazzy were talking about motors
[16:56:24] <CaptHindsight> I had tutaledge once...
[16:56:39] <XXCoder> oh its about other channel that was being hammered hard with spammers
[16:56:51] <Lcvette[m]> but that was wolf
[16:57:16] <hazzy-lab> Lcvette[m]: Yes, `Wolf got two!
[16:57:27] <Lcvette[m]> nice!
[16:57:30] <gregcnc> anyone have some Festo CPA10-M1H-5JS laying around?
[16:57:32] <hazzy-lab> over achiever
[16:58:20] <Lcvette[m]> i grabbed one a while back just because the price was awesome, was a bit big for what i needed a motor for though
[16:58:21] <XXCoder> you guys know anything about clothes washer?
[16:58:22] <Lcvette[m]> 7x10 lathe
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[16:58:46] <Lcvette[m]> lol
[16:58:53] <XXCoder> i replaced dog ears and it now works properly, but motor runs but its not rotating. something else is also broken
[16:58:56] <Lcvette[m]> but i bet she'll get her done
[16:58:58] <Lcvette[m]> yes, plenty
[16:58:59] <hazzy-lab> TurBoss: Can you talk here?
[16:59:11] <Lcvette[m]> mine prefers diamonds and white gold jewelry
[17:00:23] <Lcvette[m]> transmission
[17:01:11] <XXCoder> something like https://www.rcappliancepartsimages.com ?
[17:01:55] <TurBoss> yo
[17:02:03] <XXCoder> hey TurBoss
[17:02:10] <hazzy-lab> TurBoss: sweet!
[17:02:10] <TurBoss> hello XXCoder
[17:02:28] <TurBoss> just talk to @appservice-irc:matrix.org
[17:02:34] <Lcvette[m]> turboss \o/
[17:03:19] <Lcvette[m]> xxcoder, yes the clutch mechanism could be broken if its a direct drive
[17:03:35] <XXCoder> cool. researching now
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[17:03:55] <Lcvette[m]> also check and make sure the motor shaft has not broken
[17:03:58] <XXCoder> cant afford to replace washer, it would cost over thousand bucks to buy 2
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[17:04:35] <XXCoder> (well washer and dryer)
[17:05:25] <Deejay> gn8
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[17:11:43] <XXCoder> Lcvette[m]: https://www.youtube.com
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[17:22:58] <Lcvette[m]> yeah
[17:23:05] <Lcvette[m]> that has a regular transmisssion
[17:23:06] <XXCoder> so many steps.
[17:23:25] <XXCoder> any chance its just couplers thats broken?
[17:23:54] <Lcvette[m]> transmissions are usually pretty tough
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[17:24:14] <Lcvette[m]> but if you were abusing it with heavy loads and big unbalanced loads, they can break
[17:24:29] <Lcvette[m]> strip gears etc
[17:24:39] <Lcvette[m]> also motor shaft cuoplers can break
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[17:27:13] <XXCoder> 179 bucks is have to buy transmission
[17:27:17] <XXCoder> *uif
[17:27:21] <XXCoder> **if
[17:27:30] <XXCoder> https://www.repairclinic.com
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[17:31:26] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com
[17:31:31] <skunkworks> rough machining...
[17:31:50] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com
[17:31:56] <gregcnc> it's a pretty big something
[17:35:20] <XXCoder> Lcvette[m]: one of repair video? "DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS, ONLY HIGHLY TRAINED LICENSED AND INSURED HVAC" and in reply: author of video says "this was first washer I fixed, went pretty well"
[17:35:26] <XXCoder> yeeah highly trained..
[17:38:45] <skunkworks> it is a riser block for a small cnc mill I inherited.
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[18:13:40] <Tom_L> skunkworks, still chewin on that hunk of iron?
[18:14:50] <Tom_L> XXCoder, that warning is sponsored by the washer repairman's union
[18:15:05] <XXCoder> indeed
[18:15:24] <XXCoder> i pointed it out more because guy said must be trained, and its his first time.
[18:15:31] <XXCoder> bit of paradox there
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[18:39:04] <andypugh> Does anyone here have experience of heat-forming polycarbonate?
[18:39:44] <andypugh> I tried today, but it bubbled up and also welded the protection film to the surface.
[18:40:15] <SpeedEvil> Drying may be required, and I think you always remove the film
[18:40:25] <hazzy-lab> andypugh: it sounds like you got it too hot
[18:40:38] <andypugh> So, do you remove the film prior to forming? And how long does drying normally take? I dried the 5mm at 125C for 3 hours.
[18:41:05] <SpeedEvil> I would have thought that would have helped
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[18:45:19] <andypugh> I did do it all in my kitchen oven. Perhaps I should try again with thermocouples and a furnace controller turning the power on and off.
[18:45:50] <andypugh> Actually, a proper furnace controller would be a fun hack for a kitchen oven.
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[18:50:29] <sync> yes andypugh
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[19:04:18] <Loetmichel> pfft... home at last... i have to confess i felt a bit like a gypsy with that bed on the cars roof and all that stuff in the car (mother in law sells the house so we cleaned it out)... and note to self: buying a 6.99eur tarp to protect the bed and expecting it to hold up to 100mph was a BIT optimistic (it was completely green when i started 5 hours ago) ;) -> http://www.cyrom.org
[19:04:18] <Loetmichel> n.php?g2_itemId=17174&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
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[19:07:58] <hazzy-lab> http://www.cyrom.org
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[19:08:42] <Loetmichel> yes
[19:08:46] <hazzy-lab> haha
[19:08:49] <Loetmichel> ah, it got split?
[19:08:55] <hazzy-lab> that looks pretty tattered
[19:09:02] <hazzy-lab> yes
[19:09:15] <Loetmichel> wind. the tarp is made of a nylon "fabric" clad in a green foil. it seems the green foil wasnt attached THAT well...
[19:11:58] <andypugh> Of course, before using my oven for stuff, I should work out what the hieroglyphics mean. https://photos.app.goo.gl And i also ought to clean the cooker.
[19:12:47] <hazzy-lab> andypugh: this is mighty cryptic
[19:13:15] <andypugh> Isn’t it?
[19:14:32] <DaViruz> i suppose the possible options are automatic, single step, mdi and manual?
[19:14:45] <hazzy-lab> those might belong better on a lathe threading box than an oven
[19:15:13] <hazzy-lab> even has the double cut thread setting for when you engage the half nut at the wrong point
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[19:17:04] <hazzy-lab> DaViruz: LOL
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[19:28:17] <andypugh> :-)
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[19:34:08] <skunkworks> andypugh: http://electronicsam.com
[19:34:37] <andypugh> Cool. Does it work?
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[19:35:35] <skunkworks> have not powered it up yet..
[19:35:49] <andypugh> Have you installed Servoterm?
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[19:36:09] <skunkworks> no.. been removing metal.. http://electronicsam.com
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[19:48:06] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com ah that answers my question!
[19:48:11] <XXCoder> nice
[19:48:55] <`Wolf> jesseg: yo
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[20:07:56] <hazzy-m> jesseg: howdy
[20:12:29] <`Wolf> now to wait for him to get back https://i.imgur.com
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[20:14:11] <`Wolf> I gave up after almost 2 hrs of digging in boxes of bearings lol
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[20:16:16] <andypugh> I am confused by the two different sized boxes of 6203
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[20:16:30] <`Wolf> yeah that is odd isn’t it
[20:17:16] <`Wolf> larger box has snap ring on it
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[20:19:26] <`Wolf> didn’t help that there is no organization to anything there, boxes and boxes of stuff all mixed up
[20:19:43] <`Wolf> there was 3-4 boxes of bearings I didn’t even touch
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[20:21:01] <`Wolf> trying to talk the guy in to letting me help him organize all the stuff
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[20:57:36] <XXCoder> hey Lcvette[m] finally got it
[20:57:40] <XXCoder> its broken coupler
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[21:26:27] <jesseg> `Wolf, hey, hazzy-m howdy!
[21:27:18] <andypugh> Very special lathe. Has relieveing gear for making taps, hobs, other cutters: https://www.ebay.co.uk
[21:27:49] <XXCoder> left outside ouch
[21:28:00] <hazzy-lab> andypugh: Awesome!
[21:28:03] <XXCoder> very heavy rust
[21:28:31] <andypugh> Max spindle speed 238 !
[21:28:44] <XXCoder> well looks very rebuildable though
[21:28:46] <hazzy-lab> I always wanted to make a eureka attachment for my lathe
[21:28:58] <XXCoder> if it was left outside here in washington, it'd be half rusted away
[21:29:02] <andypugh> Sorry, 525. I didn’t look carefuly enough.
[21:29:13] <XXCoder> https://i.ebayimg.com
[21:29:21] <andypugh> It’s in Preston. That’s worse
[21:29:37] <andypugh> But things always look far rustier in photos.
[21:29:38] <hazzy-lab> the eureka patent is on my shop wall :)
[21:29:40] <XXCoder> apparently. lol
[21:29:57] <XXCoder> yeah it looks clean, rusty but clean
[21:30:01] <XXCoder> no holes and cancer
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[21:31:05] <andypugh> This was the picture of my lathe, and it was actually perfectly fine with a few seconds of WD40 and wire-wool: http://2.bp.blogspot.com
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[21:32:56] <andypugh> Same lathe, same chuck, a licl of paint and a polish. http://bodgesoc.blogspot.com
[21:33:39] <jesseg> `Wolf, wow! you actually found 3 of the types!
[21:35:03] <andypugh> (I wonder if there was ever a 20”lathe with a deeper bed?
[21:35:07] <XXCoder> andypugh: nice restoration!
[21:36:41] <andypugh> It was a little bit more than a restoration, I converted to CNC too. :-)
[21:37:05] <andypugh> (fairly obviously)
[21:39:08] <XXCoder> well it does look good
[21:41:06] <andypugh> It looks less good now I have been using it for a year or so :-)
[21:41:44] <XXCoder> not surpised. ever made a lathe rook though? lol
[21:42:21] <andypugh> I have made a lathe pawn. But not a rook. A knight would be the real challenge
[21:42:22] <XXCoder> err pawn
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[21:43:30] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com
[21:44:14] <andypugh> This is mine. With crashes. dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc
[21:44:21] <andypugh> Oops!
[21:44:33] <XXCoder> in least its not porn link or something
[21:44:58] <andypugh> https://www.youtube.com
[21:45:39] <XXCoder> i remember the video
[21:45:42] <XXCoder> you captioned it for me
[21:45:50] <Tom_L> do the chips get caught in the buttons?
[21:46:18] <andypugh> The keyboad normally lives in a toolbox drawer
[21:46:35] <Tom_L> the red yellow green ones
[21:46:44] <andypugh> No, never
[21:48:14] * Tom_L goes back out to the shop to check on the cnc
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[22:00:37] <Tom_shop> can any of the tool table information be displayed in the pyvcp pannel?
[22:00:48] <Tom_shop> ie tool description
[22:01:20] <Tom_shop> i currently display the tool number but thought it would be hand to have the description as well
[22:01:38] <andypugh> Should be posssible with Glade and a Python handler that can read the tool table. Probably not with PyVCP
[22:01:50] <Tom_shop> ok
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[22:10:37] <Lcvette[m]> i know you can get it in a subroutine
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[22:10:59] <Lcvette[m]> then you could use a print function
[22:11:09] <Lcvette[m]> ?
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[22:15:33] <robotustra> cast iron keyboard is starring in a linux cnc youtube porn
[22:15:39] <robotustra> +1
[22:17:55] <andypugh> Cast iron keyboard? Where?
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[22:19:21] <robotustra> well, kbd is sitting on a beefy cast iron plate :)
[22:19:44] <robotustra> this lathe is looks so solid
[22:19:59] <robotustra> must be precize?
[22:20:55] <andypugh> It could be better. I think it is inherently good but I need to work on the PID. But it makes parts, so I haven’t re-visited the tuning.
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[22:21:05] <robotustra> andypugh, how do you wire encoders for axii?
[22:21:23] <andypugh> It’s all on Resolvers,
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[22:21:29] <andypugh> Using a Mesa 7i49
[22:22:09] <robotustra> you send a signal to mesa and then lincnc sends bach steps to steppers?
[22:22:24] <andypugh> It’s all on servos.
[22:23:22] <andypugh> Using Mesa 8i20 drives, which take a current command through serial.
[22:23:34] <robotustra> "the program is called lathe pawn, it should make a pawn" LOL
[22:24:26] <XXCoder> :)
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[22:26:36] <robotustra> is there any way to chipbrake aluminum on a lathe?
[22:26:46] <andypugh> Yes
[22:27:11] <andypugh> Tool geometry and the right feed and speed will do it.
[22:28:55] <robotustra> this lathe has breaks>
[22:28:57] <robotustra> ?
[22:28:58] <andypugh> You typically need to make the swarf very stiff to snap it, and not all lathes can manage that
[22:31:22] <robotustra> I think it should depend on the type of alloy
[22:31:42] <andypugh> That too.
[22:31:43] <robotustra> 6560 probably hard to cheapbreak
[22:31:56] <`Wolf> cutter geometry makes a diff as well
[22:32:47] <robotustra> was thinking all day how to wire my lathe
[22:33:36] <robotustra> I want to make all my harnesses to test electronics on a table, and not remake it to install on a lathe after
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[22:33:59] <robotustra> not sure that I'll succeed :)
[22:34:25] <robotustra> the length of wires is not 100% clear for now
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[22:35:02] <robotustra> thinking to put wires into currageted hose
[22:35:21] <`Wolf> length of the axis + 2/3rds imo
[22:35:35] <robotustra> but not sure if I have to twist wires for signals
[22:36:23] <`Wolf> would be a good idea
[22:36:29] <`Wolf> twist all the wires
[22:36:56] <Tom_shop> shield them for sure
[22:37:31] <robotustra> and also was thinking on manual switches and breakers I need, there not so much ideas come what I need
[22:38:00] <robotustra> do I need a separate power switches for servos?
[22:38:06] <`Wolf> https://i.imgur.com wiring done correct IMO
[22:38:22] <`Wolf> I master switch all my motors on CNC machine
[22:38:52] <robotustra> hm, mine is a plastic tube :)
[22:39:07] <`Wolf> 1 master switch, 1 switch for motor psu, and e-stop that kills motors and spindle
[22:39:21] <`Wolf> motor psu = stepper/servo
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[22:39:51] <robotustra> ah
[22:40:09] <robotustra> e-stop kills the power on a servos
[22:40:44] <robotustra> so I don't need a separate switch
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[22:41:16] <robotustra> one more thing is a reset servo if there is an alarm happend
[22:41:51] <robotustra> do I need to wire it back to linuxcnc through mesa card?
[22:41:59] <robotustra> how people usually do?
[22:42:16] <robotustra> or it's an ovekill
[22:42:22] <robotustra> overkill
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[22:44:14] <`Wolf> dunno, I haven’t done my mesa build yet
[22:45:32] <robotustra> I mean what is a "good practice" in wiring signals through the mesa
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[22:45:46] <robotustra> like feedback from toolchanger, etc
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[22:56:03] <robotustra> did anybody tried to power mesa with 36V?
[22:56:12] <robotustra> or 32V is max?
[22:56:35] <XXCoder> isnt max volt listed?
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[22:58:02] <robotustra> 32
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