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[01:10:19] <Lcvette[m]> Wolf, how are you liking the new motor?
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[01:16:41] <jesseg> `Wolf, ahh no back gear?
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[01:21:10] <XXCoder> a week of high 80s, but high 50s/low 60s night. not too bad
[01:21:20] <XXCoder> hot work at start but cools off pretty fast
[01:23:03] <Wolf__> jesseg: nope, no back gear on my mill
[01:23:39] <jesseg> Do you find you miss it? I've wondered if they are worth all the extra work when its rebuild time
[01:24:20] <Wolf__> if you look at the parts photo for my mill, no back gear in the design
[01:30:20] <jesseg> yeah that's what I thought I was seeing but I'd thought back gears were kind of universal
[01:31:23] <Wolf__> its only a 1hp/0.5hp two speed motor on it, I don’t think it was ever intended for heavy cutting w/ larger cutters
[01:32:05] <Wolf__> makes it great for small work tho
[01:32:32] <jesseg> yeah, makes sense
[01:35:00] <Wolf__> bigger mill after I get a larger shop space setup =)
[01:38:03] <jesseg> exactly
[01:38:05] <Wolf__> mean time I get to figure out how I’m going to hook the new motor up on this thing
[01:40:05] <connor_goodwolf> ya'll need to set +r on the group
[01:40:15] <connor_goodwolf> this is how spammers are getting lists and spamming via PM the users
[01:41:31] <jesseg> connor_goodwolf, must be from another channel you're getting that
[01:42:01] <jesseg> I've gotten pm spams months ago, but haven't seen any when this latest attack was going on
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[01:48:07] <connor_goodwolf> jesseg: possibly, I just know I've set +R on myself so I don't get spam
[01:48:17] <jesseg> cool
[01:48:20] <connor_goodwolf> the spambots haven't registered nicks
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[01:50:41] <Wolf__> I haven’t had any spam PM yet
[01:51:53] <connor_goodwolf> they may be using other groups, I just noticed this group doesn't have +r
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[02:01:35] <norias> hello
[02:05:44] <jesseg> howdy!
[02:05:55] <norias> how goes/
[02:06:03] <Wolf__> morning
[02:07:25] <norias> morning
[02:07:59] <XXCoder> connor_goodwolf: channel silences on $~a! so unregistered can read but cant say anything
[02:09:39] <Wolf__> ^ we get to watch them join then get K-Lined
[02:10:06] <XXCoder> we need a bot that voices unregistered after say 2 or 3 minutes
[02:10:26] <XXCoder> bots gets hammered well before that I think
[02:10:46] <Wolf__> they have been making it about 10-20 sec lol
[02:10:54] <XXCoder> voice bypasses the quiet setting
[02:11:05] <XXCoder> 40 seconds then lol
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[02:56:43] <Deejay> moin
[02:57:11] <norias> howdy
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[03:21:21] <sealive> hi all
[03:21:27] <sealive> norias, still on
[03:21:33] <norias> yeah
[03:21:46] <sealive> im in germany
[03:21:54] <norias> oh, cool
[03:22:11] <sealive> here is my info channel for Linuxcnc https://www.youtube.com
[03:24:20] <Wolf__> norias isnt new to the channel =)
[03:25:16] <Wolf__> and why am I still up…
[03:27:30] <sealive> Wolf__, you like the WWW and your CNC
[03:27:38] <norias> https://markforged.com
[03:27:41] <norias> this is cool
[03:27:52] <norias> 3d printing of sintered metals
[03:28:37] <sealive> norias, ther may be at the Car Factorys running 100+ at this moment
[03:29:19] <norias> maybe
[03:29:24] <norias> i'm sure someone is buying them
[03:29:28] <sealive> norias, it olny looks that clean if out of factory and printed part is positiond on table
[03:29:29] <Wolf__> well, thats different, is that FDM + sintering?
[03:29:35] <sealive> then it is a dust hell
[03:29:37] <norias> Wolf__: yeah
[03:30:06] <norias> which, imho, should be very cost effective
[03:30:15] <norias> because it's really not that different than MIM
[03:30:20] <norias> just no mold
[03:30:25] <Wolf__> yeah, thats a new one to me
[03:30:31] <norias> i.e. i don't think it will help you compete with MIM
[03:30:44] <norias> but it should be closer in cost on small runs
[03:30:53] <norias> a good path
[03:30:59] <sealive> im off 2 Garden
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[03:31:40] <Wolf__> bunch of demo SLS on bid spotter in PA right now lol
[03:32:04] <norias> heh
[03:32:12] <norias> i was actually thinking of doing this at one point
[03:32:17] <norias> getting a shit furnace
[03:32:25] <norias> and a shit 3d printer
[03:32:37] <norias> get some MIM powder feedstock
[03:32:45] <norias> and some injection molding pellets
[03:32:46] <Wolf__> lol I have both of those…
[03:33:00] <Wolf__> rest I have no clue about =D
[03:33:07] <norias> i think you need an argon atmosphere
[03:33:14] <norias> and decent control on the heat cycles
[03:33:32] <norias> i've worked in places that ran those kind of furnaces, but never done it myself
[03:33:39] <Wolf__> arduino check, 330cu argon check
[03:33:52] <norias> get some powder and pellets
[03:33:58] <norias> make some fdm feedstock
[03:34:17] <Wolf__> thats the part I’m lost at lol
[03:35:11] <Wolf__> I bet the kiln/furnace I have wont get high enough
[03:35:38] <norias> dunno
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[03:35:59] <Wolf__> plus I still need to put it back together, rear refactory got cracked
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[03:37:07] <Wolf__> 2350F/1287C I think
[03:38:13] <norias> the one here is 1300C
[03:38:18] <norias> so...
[03:38:20] <norias> maybe?
[03:38:43] <Wolf__> massive 6”x6”x6.25” 1440W =)
[03:40:05] <norias> $100k
[03:40:11] <norias> pretty reasonable
[03:40:17] <norias> wonder what the entire system costs
[03:41:50] <Wolf__> https://www.bidspotter.com wonder what the reserve is
[03:42:01] <norias> apparently this thing has been out there for a year
[03:42:04] <norias> and i've just missed it
[03:43:44] <norias> oh shit
[03:43:50] <norias> that $100k is with the furnace
[03:44:21] <Wolf__> so thats the turn key price, not too crazy in the long run
[03:45:10] <XXCoder> isnt that machine usually 500k or million bucks?
[03:45:54] <norias> not this one
[03:46:30] <Wolf__> that FDM + stinter your paying probably 60k of that just for them coming up for the idea lol
[03:46:40] <Wolf__> you’re
[03:47:17] <norias> uh, i doubt it
[03:47:20] <norias> the idea was obvious
[03:47:47] <norias> i think the formulation of the feedstock and developing the processing is actually where it's at
[03:48:00] <norias> plus, it probably does all the shrinkage calcs for you
[03:48:15] <norias> etc
[03:48:19] <Wolf__> yeah, kinda what I actually meant, words are hard at almost 4am w/out sleep =)
[03:53:49] <norias> fuuuuuuuuck
[03:54:00] <norias> people are talking about using it for injection mold cavities
[03:54:09] <norias> print-sinter-post process
[03:54:31] <Wolf__> oo
[03:54:47] <norias> interestingly, i wonder if controlled porosity would actually be _better_ for injection mold cavities
[03:55:10] <norias> pore sizes large enough to get air out, but too small for the injection front
[03:55:20] <norias> it'd simplify mold design a little
[03:55:31] <norias> and probably end up requiring less packing pressure
[03:55:38] <Wolf__> intersting idea
[03:55:48] <norias> if that were the case...
[03:55:50] * Wolf__ knows not much about die making
[03:56:11] <norias> you might be able to just inject water through the pores
[03:56:17] <norias> to do cooling
[03:56:33] <norias> i.e. air goes out of pores ahead of plastic
[03:56:45] <norias> cavity is full, inject water
[03:56:57] <norias> eject part, drain water
[03:57:10] <Wolf__> wouldnt the water eject the part
[03:57:14] <norias> might increase cycle times with lower packing pressure
[03:57:24] <norias> no, i don't think you'd need much pressure
[03:57:32] <Wolf__> depending on part design of course
[03:57:33] <norias> plus do it while the mold is closed
[03:57:52] <norias> crazy ideas, but my crazy ideas have worked in the past
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[03:59:32] <Wolf__> lol
[04:00:38] <Wolf__> crazy ideas are usually the good ones
[04:00:59] <Wolf__> if it works, then more tool and die shop auctions for me to get stuff from
[04:01:52] <norias> lol
[04:07:33] <Wolf__> if it makes millions I could use a 40’x60’ pole building as well =P lol
[04:08:00] <norias> heh
[04:08:31] <norias> fucking stamping dies, too
[04:08:39] <norias> they didn't mention it
[04:08:58] <norias> but there's no reason you can't do tungsten carbide with this stuff
[04:09:23] <Wolf__> I wish all my projects went simple.. lets put a new motor on the mill… now looking at how to turn multi ribbed V belt pulleys…
[04:11:01] <Wolf__> damn, that idea really would kill off tool and die shops
[04:12:54] <Wolf__> on the other hand, it would probably be a hell of a boost in productivity to getting parts from design to production run I bet
[04:17:41] <norias> naw, tool and die would just adapt
[04:17:46] <norias> edm didn't kill them
[04:18:14] <Wolf__> last auction lots came from a tool and die shop that was full of edm machines
[04:18:23] <Wolf__> that I picked up
[04:18:28] <norias> they didn't die because of edm
[04:19:11] <Wolf__> near Reading PA, probably lack of business
[04:19:15] <norias> i could see this going hand in hand with EDM
[04:19:38] <norias> the electrodes are really easy to machine quickly
[04:19:44] <norias> just, as we know, edm takes forever
[04:19:54] <norias> but what if you 3d print the part near net
[04:19:59] <norias> edm to final
[04:20:15] <Wolf__> quicker cycle times
[04:20:18] <norias> right
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[04:20:29] <Wolf__> prints could be run lights out
[04:20:35] <norias> yeah
[04:20:47] <Wolf__> or just 24/7 lol
[04:21:03] <norias> the other thing in the mix that's kind of interesting is the extrude hone system
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[04:21:14] <norias> using a non-newtonian fluid
[04:21:14] <Wolf__> eh
[04:21:23] <Wolf__> oh cool
[04:21:27] <norias> as the base for a lapping system
[04:21:37] <norias> they make machines for that
[04:21:43] <norias> i chatted with them once
[04:21:44] <Wolf__> https://i.imgur.com no more lol
[04:21:46] <norias> in theory
[04:21:58] <norias> you could make a machine that mounts injection mold tools
[04:22:15] <norias> run that stuff through the runner system in the mold
[04:22:27] <norias> and polish the mold exactly in the flow direction
[04:22:33] <norias> with no labor
[04:22:53] <norias> fun stuff
[04:23:05] <Wolf__> neat concepts
[04:23:10] <norias> yeah
[04:23:16] <norias> i need to start doing something
[04:23:24] <norias> it's all talk until chips get made
[04:23:29] <Wolf__> yup
[04:23:42] <norias> i should probably sleep soon
[04:23:51] <norias> but now i'm almost too excited to sleep
[04:23:58] <Wolf__> lol
[04:24:45] <norias> i tell people this when i interview for jobs
[04:24:45] <Wolf__> no one in here knew what that diprofil was when I posted the pic
[04:24:54] <norias> manufacturing excites me
[04:25:34] <Wolf__> then again, I didn’t know what it was till about 5mins before I bought it off one of the facebook groups lol
[04:25:39] <norias> lol
[04:27:03] <norias> ok
[04:27:05] <norias> i'm out
[04:27:27] <Wolf__> lol later, same here
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[05:28:21] <connor_goodwolf> XXCoder: the problem is they're entering the groups, getting the user list and spamming via PM
[05:28:51] <XXCoder> havent gotten any I think its running down ABCs
[05:28:59] <XXCoder> and my nick is double x
[05:29:27] <XXCoder> you could make message only from registered onl;y
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[05:50:35] <connor_goodwolf> XXCoder: I did that, but this doesn't help others here
[05:50:55] <XXCoder> yeah not perfect system
[05:55:09] <jthornton> morning
[05:55:21] <XXCoder> yo
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[06:18:12] <miss0r> goodday
[06:22:11] <Deejay> heya
[06:22:12] <Tom_L> 77F Hi 98
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[06:35:00] <jthornton> 71°F 94 for the high
[06:35:59] <jthornton> chicken coop is 73.4F 78.6% 1004.4 hPa
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[06:43:26] <miss0r> I'm not sure what exactly it is around here, but it is alot better than the past few months. Today you can actualy breathe
[06:43:35] <miss0r> and the wind has picked up a bit, which is nice
[06:43:44] <miss0r> The hot air killed my compressor... :-/
[06:43:58] <XXCoder> this weel will be hot. not hell hot like 2 weeks ago but..
[06:44:23] <XXCoder> then friday rain. 100 accients maybe. wed rain failed to appear
[06:44:58] <miss0r> hehe. The weather forecast tells me that the hot weather will come back wensday with a vengeance
[06:45:06] <miss0r> :-/
[06:45:15] <miss0r> I'll just enjoy the mild conditions for now
[06:45:26] <XXCoder> people here dont know how to drive in rain, expecially after months of no rain
[06:45:38] <miss0r> I'll bet. Its the same all over the world.
[06:45:44] <XXCoder> not really
[06:45:50] <XXCoder> here is 50th best state for driving
[06:46:15] <miss0r> hehe. I forgot you're an american ;)
[06:46:27] <XXCoder> if youre not sure there is 50 states. lol
[06:46:36] <miss0r> I know :)
[06:46:40] <XXCoder> yeah was joking
[06:46:55] <miss0r> Here in Denmark, we have a metric shitton of accidents each year when the first snow falls...
[06:47:01] <XXCoder> I wasnt joking about 100 accients where I live each dang time theres rain after prolonged no rain
[06:47:03] <miss0r> I mean; ITS SNOW!
[06:47:34] <miss0r> That is just scary
[06:47:38] <XXCoder> snow isnt hard to drive on really
[06:47:42] <miss0r> nope
[06:47:50] <miss0r> but for some reason some people find it hard
[06:47:57] <XXCoder> just dont speed and do excessive change of speed
[06:48:08] <miss0r> yeah.. keep the g-levels at a minimum
[06:48:10] <SpeedEvil> Don't be a jerk.
[06:48:27] <XXCoder> I take foot off gas at the twice the distance to light
[06:48:30] <miss0r> SpeedEvil: Clearly you don't know me - that is like telling a fish not to swim or a bird not to fly
[06:48:47] <SpeedEvil> (that would work better if jerk was not the derivative of accelleration tbh)
[06:48:54] <XXCoder> I drove like old man 15 years ago
[06:49:02] <XXCoder> I drive like slightly older man now
[06:49:05] <miss0r> SpeedEvil: Yeah, I see what you were getting at.. lol :)
[06:49:27] <XXCoder> indeed. lol
[06:50:10] <miss0r> I drove like a maniac in my mid teens. (16-18). In Denmark you can't get your drivers lisence before the age of 18. So 16-18yos drive mopeds..
[06:50:39] <miss0r> I actualy installed a nitrous kit on a 70cc moped... meh. I'm glad I got all of that out of my system in the early days
[06:50:51] <miss0r> and lived to tell
[06:51:09] <XXCoder> :)
[06:51:34] <XXCoder> I probably would speed a bit if I had license 5 or 8 years earlier
[06:51:47] <XXCoder> but then im not much of risk taker
[06:52:08] <miss0r> the moped I build is actualy still on display at a place called 'scooter gallery'.. if you are interrested, you can see the nitrous install here: https://www.scootergalleri.dk
[06:52:08] <miss0r> :)
[06:52:57] <XXCoder> the strange assembly at air exit?
[06:53:17] <miss0r> at air exit? :S
[06:53:31] <XXCoder> I cant spell that word so yeah lol
[06:53:38] <XXCoder> extust something
[06:53:48] <miss0r> Ahh, the strange shape of the exhaust ?
[06:53:56] <XXCoder> yeah
[06:54:08] <XXCoder> i dont see how it'd help to have nox there
[06:54:21] <XXCoder> maybe using it as prewarmer?
[06:54:39] <miss0r> :S the nox is under the seat
[06:54:50] <miss0r> that strange thing you see on the exhaust is just a muffler
[06:55:10] <XXCoder> interesting
[06:55:14] <miss0r> You have to scroll down a little bit on the picture series on the right
[06:55:59] <miss0r> The exhaust is shaped that way with a small entrance pipe and a small exit pipe, to have the exhaust gass cool down in the 'large' section. This creates some suction that helps pull out the echaust gasses from the next combustion faster
[06:56:57] <miss0r> I had this monstrosity on a dyno. It had 28hp. keep in mind that it is only 70cc and the whole things weighs around 90 pounds
[06:57:01] <XXCoder> makes sense, motor air flow higher the more powerful
[06:57:48] <miss0r> Yeah. I'll get back to installing the new compressor *sigh*
[07:01:38] <XXCoder> fun
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[07:20:24] <miss0r> New compressor in, and operational :D What a blessing. Ive been running the cnc for two days, without being able to use an air pistol... That sucks !
[07:23:01] <XXCoder> man I need one lol
[07:25:24] * Loetmichel just had a 30mm SiC grinding disk explode in the milling spindle... at 24krpm... thanks to myself that i mounted swarf guards made of 4mm PC on the router...
[07:26:18] <Loetmichel> qas quite an bit shaken from th3e *BANG* and the funny scratch spider in the polycarbonate. loess than a foot from my face ;)
[07:26:55] <Loetmichel> -o
[07:29:24] <miss0r> :o
[07:29:30] <miss0r> Did it wreck anything?
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[07:32:41] <Loetmichel> just the swarf guard
[07:33:31] <Loetmichel> tried to grind down a "clamp on" type of ferrite choke ... either the ferrite is as hard as SiC or even harder... just got waaay to hot but didnt do a thing to the choke
[07:34:01] <Loetmichel> just the grinding stone exploded
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[08:42:51] <miss0r> A friend of mine just stopped by with two boxes filled with odd sized drills, endmills, shell mills, reamers carving tools, slitting saws and a bunch of other fun stuff :) I think there must be 100+ endmills in there ranging from 0.3mm to 12mm
[08:43:08] <miss0r> They just threw it out where he works, because they are not categorized :D
[08:47:40] <miss0r> Now I have a like 5 or 6 0.95mm H7 helical reamers :D
[08:55:31] <JT-Shop> pcw_home: do I need to supply 5v to P3 to get the I/O pins on the 7i96?
[08:56:51] <JT-Shop> hmm I have 5v supplied to P3 but don't see any inputs or outputs
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[09:07:26] <JT-Shop> I see hm2_7i96.0.ssr.00.out.00 is that the output pin?
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[10:20:35] <pcw_home> JT-Shop: yes, hm2_7i96.0.ssr.00.out.00 is output 0 (of 0..5)
[10:21:26] <pcw_home> inputs 0..10 are just GPIO 0..10 at least until the INM module is supported
[10:21:58] <JT-Shop> ok thanks
[10:24:47] <pcw_home> P3 5V is the same as TB2 5V
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[10:33:29] <JT-Shop> thanks
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[11:39:57] <Loetmichel> *hrhr* the world is so small... one big village. just "aquired" our ex-apprentice at the company (now he is the "network manager") to help me get the bed from my cars roof... he drives behind me home... arriving he said: "oh, i was here often two years ago. my sister used to live in this house on third floor"... now that he says it: there was a woman there with the same surname as him... and
[11:39:57] <Loetmichel> i work 2 cities away from home ;)
[11:54:54] <rmu|w> Loetmichel: six degrees of separation
[11:55:05] <Loetmichel> ?
[11:56:06] <rmu|w> every living human being is connected to every other human being via at most 6 shared acquaintances
[11:56:44] <rmu|w> or even 5
[11:59:27] <cradek> I've heard that too, but it seems pretty unlikely
[12:05:30] <jdh> perhapsit was a typo, should have been 16
[12:09:31] <robotustra> let's count, let's say I know 200 people, if they know 200 in average - it means I know (200-1)^2 people. and so on.. 200^6 = 64 000 000 000 000
[12:10:01] <robotustra> it's much more than 8 000 000 000
[12:10:56] <robotustra> so if the average person knows ~100 people, he or she knows all population of the earth in 6 connections
[12:12:31] <robotustra> rmu|w, so it's close to truth
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[12:25:16] <sealive> hi all
[12:25:39] <robotustra> hi
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[12:26:31] <robotustra> how is the weather in Germany?
[12:26:43] <sealive> melting oven
[12:26:55] <sealive> 37.4 here
[12:27:52] <robotustra> in Montreal it's getting colder, 21 degree will be tonight
[12:28:22] <sealive> here 2 from thursday arctic cold will flow in
[12:28:24] <robotustra> but day temperature is about 30
[12:28:36] <robotustra> not so bad
[12:31:42] <robotustra> sealive, according to manuam mesa board 7i76 can handle from 8V to 32V field power
[12:32:16] <sealive> 24V is standard and all E-components are on that value
[12:32:20] <sealive> ptimised
[12:32:25] <sealive> opti
[12:32:42] <robotustra> there is a voltage regulator on the board
[12:33:12] <robotustra> next to the power connector
[12:33:25] <roycroft> it's getting hot again here in eugene - 35 today
[12:34:10] <robotustra> it's an compensation for cold winter
[12:37:37] <rmu|w> i will not hold for _everybody_, but if you allow a "small" number of exceptions (i.e. <2% or so) to account for weirdos and really disconnected communities it will probably hold
[12:37:53] <sealive> robotustra, still up to you but 24V is never a fault to bring in a PSU to the mashine
[12:44:10] <robotustra> sealive, yeah, I got it. it means that I have to use separate power supply for mesa board and servos, because my servos eat from 20 to 50V
[12:44:45] <robotustra> at 50V they have the max torque
[12:45:41] <sealive> i woudt say 72
[12:45:55] <sealive> 72V on a 2.3V Stepper gives you speed
[12:46:24] <robotustra> :)
[12:47:29] <sealive> robotustra, the new Higtech Digital Drivers get then the rest towars 60000Steps per second
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[12:49:41] <sealive> robotustra, i checkt on same mashine 800kg Gantry 30:1 Tb6600 M542 M860H DM556
[12:49:56] <sealive> at 36V
[12:50:09] <sealive> 7.5meter Cable length
[12:50:25] <sealive> High impendent 1mm²
[12:51:34] <robotustra> so you mean 24V is more than enouph?
[12:51:46] <sealive> AWG17
[12:52:03] <sealive> 5Times the Stepper Voltige is Best
[12:52:07] <robotustra> My cables will be < 2 meters
[12:52:23] <sealive> AWG24
[12:52:32] <sealive> up to 5A
[12:52:47] <sealive> Speed is near Double
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[12:54:20] <robotustra> ok I'll start with 24V and if it will be not enough - will make a separate power supply for servor
[12:54:55] <robotustra> I have the servo like this guy on the video https://www.youtube.com
[12:55:02] <sealive> robotustra, did you see my cabinetts
[12:55:24] <robotustra> no
[12:55:34] <sealive> this is My YT https://www.youtube.com
[12:56:02] <sealive> robotustra, cabinetts Video i use https://www.youtube.com
[12:56:04] <robotustra> ah, I did see it
[12:56:31] <robotustra> huge router
[12:57:56] <sealive> my biggest is 12meter by 7meter
[12:58:33] <sealive> robotustra, to cut Foam Carneval parts
[12:59:27] <robotustra> to build airplanes?
[12:59:44] <robotustra> interesting idea: https://www.youtube.com
[13:02:23] <robotustra> it might be not so rigid
[13:03:37] <robotustra> sealive, my lathe will be small, 90x50x50 cm max dimensions. so the cable length will be not more than 2 m
[13:04:07] <sealive> robotustra, did you see my XYUVB mashine for cutting Wings
[13:04:31] <sealive> robotustra, and the Python based Linuxcnc internal shape genrator on the wing contour
[13:04:51] <sealive> robotustra, it has 10000 wing shapes inside
[13:05:18] <sealive> with 4 layers Mill and 2 Layers Hotwire
[13:06:58] <robotustra> no, show me
[13:07:42] <sealive> robotustra, https://www.youtube.com
[13:08:54] <sealive> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org
[13:10:08] <robotustra> cool
[13:10:09] <gregcnc> are there many using that? does it allow for sheeting thickness?
[13:10:54] <sealive> greg yes
[13:11:05] <sealive> i got near 12000hits
[13:11:36] <sealive> gregcnc, the thickness is calculated on the length
[13:11:45] <sealive> Width
[13:12:15] <sealive> my dauthers shop is no longer online i need to change this
[13:12:42] <gregcnc> but can you adjust the wood sheeting thickness?
[13:13:51] <sealive> if you change width it changes thickness
[13:14:02] <gregcnc> width of what?
[13:14:08] <sealive> profile
[13:14:24] <gregcnc> so it doesn't account for sheeting thickness
[13:14:25] <sealive> the shape is internal so with gifes hight
[13:14:48] <sealive> the wing length is from profile to profile
[13:15:25] <sealive> if you make spans you need to get it to your need at the length you want
[13:15:59] <sealive> gregcnc, robotustra NEW link http://heimwerkermarkt-tretter.de
[13:16:17] <sealive> gregcnc, robotustra you need python-pil
[13:17:32] <gregcnc> http://www.smrcc.net
[13:18:06] <sealive> gregcnc, yust unpaxk it and use it to see the output
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[13:28:45] <sealive> gregcnc, did yu testit
[13:29:06] <gregcnc> no
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[14:10:11] <sealive> im off
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[14:10:18] <Rab> test
[14:10:24] <Rab> Success!
[14:13:06] <skunkworks> did you hear something?
[14:15:26] <Rab> A visual bell.
[14:19:25] <skunkworks> Shhhhh... do you smell that?
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[15:38:25] <pcw_mesa> Libre le potato is a hot potato compiling a kernel with J4...
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[16:51:09] <LilyFaith> Anyone here? I am a network admin. I know almost nothing about manufacturing, but I work for a manufacturing company. We have a bunch of old excellon CNC 6's attached to Mark V drills. I was originally brought over to figure out if there is a way to upgrade the 5.25 inch drives to USB drives. But my question is why do we need these Excellon CNC 6 controllers from the 70s at all? This software seems like it should do what we
[16:51:39] <LilyFaith> The PC? I know that isn't a simply question but if someone could point me in the right direction to get started I would appreciate it
[16:52:58] <andypugh> I guess you have a whole bunch of excellon drill files?
[16:53:32] <andypugh> LinuxCNC can almost certainly control the drills, but you might need G-code files rather than your current toolchain.
[16:54:26] <andypugh> Do you have a model number for the drills? We can try to Google for clues.
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[16:58:32] <andypugh> Hmm. I guess I won’t spend any more time looking for info on Excellon drills then.
[17:01:27] <jthornton> it left?
[17:04:30] <Loetmichel> maan, thats the fifth liter of water i drink today... boss should buy an A/C for the company...
[17:05:19] <CaptHindsight> Loetmichel: no AC at the shop!?
[17:05:37] <Loetmichel> indeed
[17:07:07] <Loetmichel> only in the measurement chamber to keep the electronics cool
[17:07:28] <CaptHindsight> I bet Lily stopped over at GRBL or some *duino channel
[17:07:29] <Loetmichel> we had 41°C in the workshop today ;)
[17:08:20] <CaptHindsight> 23C here today and most of the week <30C, actually getting a break
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[17:09:42] <CaptHindsight> looks like Loetmichel should stay dry in the next few decades...
[17:10:20] <Loetmichel> dry???
[17:10:24] <Deejay> gn8
[17:10:53] <CaptHindsight> Loetmichel: at the sea level rises and northern Europe becomes more arid
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[17:12:33] <CaptHindsight> I was looking over the long term forecast from back in the 70's based on global warming by deg C
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[17:55:21] <JT-Shop> hazzy-dev: hazzy-lab hazzy-m you around?
[17:55:41] <hazzy-lab> JT-Shop: yes
[17:56:30] <JT-Shop> made some good progress this morning and when I got home from the industrial park
[17:56:48] <JT-Shop> not much left to do with the basic stuff
[17:57:02] <hazzy-lab> excellent!
[17:57:38] <JT-Shop> I'm saving the I/O information to the ini so I can read it and setup the wizard
[17:58:07] <JT-Shop> I was assuming it was going to be convoluted but it turned out to be pretty easy
[17:58:40] <hazzy-lab> hmm, that is a good idea!
[17:58:52] * hazzy-lab goes to check it out
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[18:55:22] <jthornton> looks like $750 of #2 copper to run to the new shop
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[18:57:03] <jthornton> although it's running on #10 at the moment
[19:01:06] <Tom_L> you gonna run something big out there?
[19:01:29] <jthornton> dunno, the panel is a 100 amp panel
[19:01:38] <jthornton> I do want to do it right
[19:01:51] <Tom_L> i ran 6 to mine but it was because i had it
[19:02:14] <Tom_L> i think i put it on a 50A breaker but i'd have to look for sure
[19:02:28] <jthornton> the run is 225' so a bit of a voltage drop
[19:02:34] <Tom_L> yeah a little
[19:02:45] <Tom_L> you gonna bury it or run a pole?
[19:03:05] <jthornton> I have 2" conduit in a 2' deep ditch
[19:03:21] <jthornton> as well as a 3/4" for data and a 3/4" for water
[19:03:28] <Tom_L> yeah, i put 2 in back when i poured the slab for my garage
[19:04:31] <jthornton> I finally got 30' or so of conduit buried so I could get to the door without running over a wire lol
[19:04:38] <jthornton> now I'm hot to finish it up
[19:05:11] <jthornton> picked up a 200 amp outdoor panel with 8 slots to feed the house, shop/garage and new shop
[19:05:28] <jthornton> I want to be able to flip a main breaker off and fire up the generator
[19:09:17] <Tom_L> i've got my gen wired back thru the welder outlet in the garage so when i flip the main i can run off the gen with little effort
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[19:11:10] * hazzy-lab just wires the gen into the main panel when it is needed ...
[19:11:11] <hazzy-lab> lol
[19:11:14] <jthornton> when I built the house I ran from the meter into my panel, now I have the generator connected to the garage panel so to isolate the meter I have to pull it out to run the generator
[19:12:15] <jthornton> hazzy-lab: did you get a chance to look at the config maker?
[19:12:23] <hazzy-lab> I did!
[19:12:27] <hazzy-lab> It looks great
[19:12:31] <jthornton> thanks
[19:12:45] <jthornton> I think it
[19:12:57] <jthornton> 's right close to being able to make a configuration
[19:13:20] <jthornton> once I get that done I'll work on the error checking
[19:13:37] <hazzy-lab> It looks very close, I guess I/O is all that is left?
[19:14:00] <jthornton> I just have to read the I/O when I load the ini
[19:14:19] <hazzy-lab> ok
[19:14:50] <jthornton> everything else about the I/O is done, it writes to the ini and creates the io.py file with all the proper connections
[19:16:35] <hazzy-lab> sweet!
[19:17:10] <jthornton> yea got home from the industrial park and it started to rain so I got more done on it this afternoon
[19:17:16] <hazzy-lab> I need to spend a little time reading thru your code a bit more thoroughly
[19:22:42] <jthornton> lol I just let the cat out of the bag on the forum
[19:22:53] <Tom_L> woops
[19:25:58] <jthornton> say goodnight Gracie
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[20:07:19] <hazzy-lab> jthornton: Just could not wait any longer, could you ;)
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[20:36:04] <robotustra> which smartphone is to buy
[20:36:20] <robotustra> I just broke the screen on mine :(
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[21:33:57] <`Wolf> ugh, my eye and brain hurt, been reading for the last 2.5hrs
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[21:48:13] <Tom_L> robotustra stay away from the S8, i don't like their raised screen
[21:48:25] <Tom_L> and you can't get protective covers for it, they don't stay on
[21:49:17] <Tom_L> don't have much to say about apple except umm, they're kinda fruity
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[21:57:52] <robotustra> I'm looking for standard 5" screen
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[22:06:57] <Wolf__> current phone that bad?
[22:07:07] <Wolf__> just replace the screen
[22:16:34] <robotustra> I ordered the screen but it will come like in a 2-3 weeks
[22:17:00] <Tom_L> no shops around that replace them?
[22:17:12] <robotustra> and it was 2 years old, so may be it's time for new one
[22:17:21] <Tom_L> meh
[22:17:25] <Tom_L> i like my old one
[22:17:36] <robotustra> I think the screen in canada will cost like 2-3 time more
[22:18:12] <Tom_L> that's standard procedure up there
[22:18:19] <robotustra> I'm thinking I can do some experiments with firmware when the screen arrive
[22:18:30] <robotustra> it was redimi 3
[22:19:17] <CaptHindsight> https://www.gsmarena.com
[22:19:42] <robotustra> the battery swelled and cracked the screen, I tried to unglue it and cut the harness :(
[22:20:27] <robotustra> the problem is that I can't find the phone of the same size
[22:20:32] <robotustra> 5" is ideal
[22:21:09] <robotustra> but now all produce phones wider and longer, and I hate the size
[22:21:32] <CaptHindsight> robotustra: what service provider do you have?
[22:21:56] <robotustra> telus
[22:22:29] <robotustra> I didnt got this phone from provider, I got it from china directly
[22:22:45] <robotustra> it worked ok for 2+ years
[22:23:02] <CaptHindsight> https://www.gsmarena.com ~$200 and replaceable batter
[22:23:08] <CaptHindsight> y
[22:23:48] <robotustra> no, 2800 mah
[22:24:00] <robotustra> xiaomi had 4000 mah
[22:24:54] <CaptHindsight> yeah but it was built in
[22:25:01] <CaptHindsight> and overheated
[22:25:13] <robotustra> no
[22:25:27] <robotustra> I'm not sire if it was overheat
[22:25:38] <CaptHindsight> "the battery swelled and cracked the screen"
[22:26:06] <robotustra> it's cracked only when I started to unglue it
[22:26:10] <CaptHindsight> they don't swell at ~20C
[22:26:11] <Wolf__> over charge or over discharge
[22:26:18] <robotustra> so, I'm guilty, not battery
[22:26:46] <Wolf__> lion usually dont self inflate for no reason
[22:26:58] <robotustra> it's not drammatically swelled
[22:27:22] <robotustra> I think I kept it on the charger too often
[22:27:23] <Kevin`> phone manufacturers overcharge their batteries significantly because it gives extra capacity and fewer charge cycles. both desirable.
[22:27:35] <CaptHindsight> anyway, the galaxy s5 is ~$200, replaceable battery, runs on your network and is easily rooted and runs ...
[22:27:59] <robotustra> there are plenty of unloked devices in here
[22:28:04] <robotustra> for 200
[22:28:09] <robotustra> even new ones
[22:28:29] <robotustra> but I'm not sure I want xiaomi redmi again
[22:28:44] <robotustra> my price tag is 200-250 cad
[22:29:50] <robotustra> I was trying to understand the diff between wiaomi mi, redmi, note modifications
[22:30:00] <robotustra> don't see much difference
[22:30:25] <robotustra> all rins qualcomm cpu
[22:30:28] <robotustra> run
[22:31:36] <CaptHindsight> ... Lineage https://lineageos.org
[22:32:52] <robotustra> and one more thing which CPU is better: MTK6762 or Snapdragon
[22:32:58] <Wolf__> my suggestion https://i.imgur.com
[22:34:31] <robotustra> I would buy it, but telus CDMA does not run in canada since 2016
[22:34:41] <Wolf__> lol
[22:34:53] <robotustra> that's why I was forced to buy this first smatphone
[22:35:03] <robotustra> it's absolutely true
[22:35:21] <robotustra> how tech companies force you to buy shit
[22:36:05] <Wolf__> yup, but that alpha is ’95 tech lol
[22:36:49] <robotustra> what frequency?
[22:36:55] <robotustra> does it work?
[22:37:03] <Wolf__> I have no idea
[22:37:26] <Wolf__> hard part might be getting battery for it, original were Ni-Cad lol
[22:39:59] <Wolf__> specs are in these photos http://www.mobilecollectors.net
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[22:40:52] <Wolf__> 832/2412mhz
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[22:52:45] <robotustra> ok, topic is closed
[22:53:03] <robotustra> got redimi 5 for 209 cad before tax
[22:53:42] <robotustra> hope this topic is closed for at least 2+ years :)
[22:56:35] <Wolf__> :)
[22:58:46] <robotustra> does anybody tried to use smartphone dislay+touchscreen as a second display for linux?
[22:59:02] <roycroft> huh?
[22:59:10] <CaptHindsight> fof CNC while at the beach? :)
[22:59:15] <CaptHindsight> fof/for
[22:59:18] <roycroft> if you're talking about a smartphone with a 15" display that might be tolerable
[23:00:45] <Wolf__> like DRO and spindle would be kinda ok
[23:00:51] <roycroft> young whippersnappers and their good vision
[23:00:56] <Wolf__> lol
[23:03:44] <robotustra> no, I'm talking about 5" display :)
[23:04:01] <robotustra> may lathe is tiny, it needs a tiny display :)
[23:04:02] <roycroft> that's big enough for an e-stop button
[23:04:09] <robotustra> yes
[23:04:57] <robotustra> if the display will be within 2-3 feets it's ok
[23:09:17] <robotustra> I mean is it theoreticaly possible to use smartphone as a second display?
[23:09:23] <robotustra> well, I'll google
[23:09:37] <Wolf__> everything is possible
[23:09:53] <Wolf__> worth fighting with stuff to get it to work on the other hand…
[23:10:31] <roycroft> this is kind of interesting:
[23:10:32] <roycroft> https://eugene.craigslist.org
[23:10:34] <roycroft> 10x18
[23:10:54] <roycroft> it looks like it needs some tlc
[23:11:08] <robotustra> oh
[23:11:11] <roycroft> but it would be a nice upgrade to my 7x12
[23:11:18] <roycroft> if i can make the room for it
[23:11:25] <robotustra> https://www.spacedesk.net
[23:11:37] <robotustra> it looks like it was done already
[23:12:02] <Wolf__> windows
[23:12:12] <robotustra> there are any other options
[23:12:26] <Wolf__> for the display
[23:12:54] <Wolf__> windows only for the server
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[23:15:55] <robotustra> spacedesk is not the only program that exists
[23:18:09] <robotustra> https://www.hitbits.net
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