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[01:10:54] <fragalot> Hi
[01:13:14] <Wolf__> morning
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[02:09:52] <sealive> im off 2 garden
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[03:17:15] <Loetmichel> *gnhihi* had the valve hydraulic lifters clatter for 5 seconds after a cold start on my BMW 318i convertible for a few days. Now i know why: no oil!... just put in 2 liters, NOW the dipstick says "half full" :-)
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[05:57:33] <jthornton> morning
[05:57:50] <XXCoder> yo
[05:57:54] <XXCoder> man
[05:58:04] <XXCoder> one of workers at work was fired
[05:58:05] <jthornton> hmm there is a mouse in the chicken run
[05:58:25] <XXCoder> I thought he was doing ok, but apparently he made mistakes again and again and hes been machinist for 30 years
[05:58:43] <XXCoder> and he inflated parts count by more than twice
[05:59:06] <XXCoder> too bad really. I know im not amazing cnc machinist but im in least honest and always learning
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[06:02:18] <jthornton> my buddy ran a turrent lathe at McDonnell Douglas from the time he got back from viet nam, he almost got fired once for not waiting for and inspection on his setup
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[06:04:22] <jthornton> I need to put out some mice traps... damn varmints are bad this year
[06:05:30] <XXCoder> jthornton: lemme find that video
[06:05:39] <XXCoder> and yeah risky to run parts without q
[06:05:40] <XXCoder> qa
[06:06:04] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com
[06:07:52] <sync> well not really, QA will just find the bad parts later
[06:07:56] <XXCoder> honestly it seems simple enough. there is 3d printed versions thats even simpler
[06:08:04] <XXCoder> you dont even need to tie string with printed version
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[10:00:35] <jesseg> Morning folks!
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[10:06:19] <JT-Shop> morning
[10:18:16] * JT-Shop can't remember how to build a deb :(
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[10:40:29] <sealive> hi all
[10:41:05] <sealive> someone got the new wiki edit pass
[10:41:24] <sealive> i woudt like to change the link fro airfoil script
[10:44:22] <sealive> JT-Shop, ?
[10:46:23] <sealive> cradek, online ?
[10:46:41] <sealive> Loetmichel, did you got water last night
[10:46:54] <sealive> here it is dry not a single drop
[10:58:36] <sealive> off till later
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[11:31:15] <JT-Shop> yo
[11:31:58] <skunkworks> MMmmm first coffee of the day
[11:32:11] <gregcnc> at 10:30?
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[11:35:52] <skunkworks> yes
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[11:38:43] <jepler> It's been about a week since I silenced unregistered users. I had originally stated I'd keep the ban for at least a week. How's anybody feel about removing the channel mode?
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[11:43:24] <tjtr33> is there a way to 'slice' a gcode file?
[11:43:36] <tjtr33> I want to cut 3D_chips.ngc but all my cutters have very short side cutting ability,
[11:43:36] <tjtr33> so I'd like to cut it in vertically layered slices.
[11:44:21] <gregcnc> this is normally handled by CAM which generates the code
[11:44:35] <skunkworks> cheap and dirty would be just to run 3d chips over and over by lowering the z each time
[11:44:58] <tjtr33> yes, 3D_chips was made by very very original emc guys and the model is not available.
[11:45:05] <gregcnc> that will work
[11:46:08] <tjtr33> thanks skunk, no suggestions for turning gcode to stl?
[11:46:42] <jthornton> I still see spam in other channels that don't have ops
[11:47:10] <jepler> OK, based on feedback here and in #linuxcnc-devel I'll leave the ban in place for another week.
[11:47:38] <skunkworks> there was a newer model.. alex joni maybe had it?
[11:48:01] <tjtr33> thx , off to romania ( i think )
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[11:49:31] <skunkworks> Thanks jepler!
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[12:04:27] <tjtr33> well i found Rab's site and a picture of the original BDI model, but no 3D model :-(
[12:04:29] <tjtr33> It was nice to see the BDI cd animation though, like a zoetrope.
[12:05:06] <tjtr33> ttul8r
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[12:08:24] <Loetmichel> skunkworks: its 18:06 here now... and i had a hectic enough day that the coffee at the company had reduced to a black tar lik substance on the bottom of the pot... didnt get time to drink one at all :-(
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[12:08:48] <Loetmichel> jepler: looks great how it is now for me...
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[12:27:00] <fragalot> Hi
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[12:45:31] <Lcvette[m]> Hey all
[12:47:54] <Lcvette[m]> Is it slow or am I invisible again?
[12:50:10] <jthornton> no your not invisible
[12:51:18] <Lcvette[m]> Hey.. I'm alive!
[12:51:37] <Lcvette[m]> Hey JT
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[12:52:08] <Lcvette[m]> Hazzy showed me the UI for the 7i96
[12:52:10] <Lcvette[m]> Pretty sick
[12:52:17] <Lcvette[m]> Slick*
[12:52:21] <jthornton> thanks
[12:52:57] <jthornton> still lots of work to do but it will make a working configuration now
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[12:55:30] <Lcvette[m]> Nice!!! It looked awesome, what are you using it for?
[12:55:31] <Lcvette[m]> Anything in particular or just in general as a confirmation builder?
[12:55:32] <Lcvette[m]> Config*
[12:56:29] <jthornton> just trying to make a simple configuration builder
[12:57:19] <Lcvette[m]> Awesome!
[12:57:30] <jthornton> and learn about pyqt5
[12:57:44] <Lcvette[m]> Same here!
[12:58:03] <Lcvette[m]> And LinuxCNC
[12:58:32] <Lcvette[m]> Crash course. Like drinking from a fire hose
[12:58:42] <Lcvette[m]> Hahahaha
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[12:59:52] <Lcvette[m]> Right now I'm trying to work out a method to be able to have probe calibration offsets for x+, x-, y+, y-
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[13:00:11] <jthornton> do you have the probe routines?
[13:01:05] <Lcvette[m]> To compensate for irregular triggering in the tripod probe designs
[13:01:19] <Lcvette[m]> I have one we built as a rough working test platform
[13:01:27] <jthornton> ah I see
[13:01:45] <jthornton> lunch minute is over so back to doing some work
[13:01:53] <Lcvette[m]> It's for a corner
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[13:02:22] <Lcvette[m]> Don't work too hard!
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[14:13:24] <fragalot> evenin'
[14:13:38] <miss0r> 'ello
[14:14:02] <fragalot> turns out that .02mm in Z along Y that I had really is just due to the casting flexing
[14:14:24] <miss0r> Yeah... You nailed it
[14:14:27] <fragalot> goes away when I loosen the bolts to the stand
[14:14:27] <miss0r> :D
[14:14:42] <miss0r> You could probally shim that
[14:14:48] <fragalot> 'ndeed
[14:15:05] <fragalot> all that's left really is to lift that far too heavy head back onto the machine
[14:15:08] <fragalot> watch it flex even more
[14:15:13] <fragalot> and then machine new gibs myself
[14:15:36] <miss0r> Sweet
[14:16:08] <miss0r> I got my 8x40x150 and my 12x50x150 endmills in the mail today :D They are looking GOOD
[14:17:14] <fragalot> 12x50 ?
[14:17:20] <fragalot> only 50mm usable surface?
[14:17:21] <fragalot> pah
[14:17:36] <miss0r> meh...
[14:17:45] <miss0r> I don't want 120mm helix! it would be uncontrollable !
[14:17:50] <miss0r> :]
[14:18:15] <fragalot> :D
[14:20:17] <miss0r> The only thing shitty about these endmills is that I could not get them with a corner radius.
[14:21:12] <miss0r> I wonder how long the cutting end will last :D
[14:22:41] <fragalot> grind it yourself
[14:22:55] * fragalot does that all the time on his single lip cutter grinder
[14:23:19] <miss0r> Sure. But I think I'll run it into the ground first, before starting on that :D
[14:23:43] <fragalot> just break the very tips on a tool grinder
[14:23:57] <fragalot> makes a huge difference in terms of life, especially when they're this long
[14:24:13] <miss0r> then my TIALN coating will go bye bye :P
[14:24:24] <miss0r> yeah I know.. I just want to see how they perform first
[14:25:49] <fragalot> you don't have the RPM's to make use of TiALN
[14:25:54] <fragalot> :P
[14:26:19] <miss0r> :] But itz soo purty!
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[15:08:46] <JT-Shop> I wonder if hazzy-dev is about
[15:20:30] <fragalot> syyl_: why are deckel FP4NC's so cheap?
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[15:39:33] <sync> fragalot: because thes are POSes
[15:39:47] <fragalot> Well then. That explains why there are so many, lol
[15:40:36] <sync> the issue is that the X way is underlubricated
[15:40:38] <sync> and galls up
[15:40:42] <sync> on _all_ of them
[15:40:57] <fragalot> nice
[15:41:15] <sync> well
[15:41:26] <sync> what do you expect, they took a manual machine and cnc'd it
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[17:10:55] <CaptHindsight> anyone every work with pipe inspection robots? https://www.youtube.com
[17:11:03] <CaptHindsight> turn the sound down
[17:11:33] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com
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[18:27:05] <roycroft> have any of you folks made a pneumatic drawbar retrofit on a mill with an r8 spindle?
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[18:27:33] <roycroft> i'm trying to figure out what is a reasonable amount of pressure to hold the collet in place
[18:28:19] <roycroft> i'm seeing folks using cylinders with anywhere from 1500 punds to 4500 pounds of force
[18:30:40] <SpeedEvil> Well, torque of standard drawbar, thread pull calculator, thread, ...
[18:31:34] <roycroft> i'm taking about the kind that just pushes down on the drawbar, which is held with belleville washers
[18:31:34] <roycroft> not the ratcheting kind that actually unscrew the drawbar
[18:31:35] <roycroft> also, about 100% of the ones i've seen put on small mills just push down on the spindle to release the collet
[18:31:36] <roycroft> that seems as though it would put a lot of excessive load on the spindle bearings
[18:31:38] <roycroft> a mechanism that holds the spindle in place while pushing down on the drawbar makes more sense to me, although that would be a lto more complicated
[18:32:12] <roycroft> yes, i can calculate something sensible
[18:32:19] <roycroft> i just want a ballpark number for now
[18:32:38] <roycroft> and i figure linuxcnc'ers probably have better number than youtube warriers
[18:34:51] <infornography> lurk
[18:35:02] <roycroft> hmm, if the lower mounting plate for the pneumatic cylinder were attached to the spindle and not to the top of the mill that would eliminate any load on the spindle bearings
[18:37:02] <SpeedEvil> K - I have no experience as you can probably gather. :)
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[18:50:39] <infornography> is there open source software for drawing and generating G code from the drawing?
[18:51:29] <Rab> infornography, Inkscape + gcodetools fits that description.
[18:52:13] <infornography> *makes note