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[00:14:32] <ziper> jesseg, im calling off the autoboat
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[00:44:10] <jesseg> ziper, awww wha?
[00:44:16] <jesseg> as it giving up?
[00:44:37] <jesseg> probably not enough time to get in done in time this go around huh
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[01:15:52] <fragalot> hi
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[01:40:48] <{HD}> Ugg
[01:41:34] <XXCoder> found something new?
[01:42:54] <Cromaglious_> I need to fix my K40, I've had the new yube for a year and haven't put it in yet and I have the Z table as well
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[03:03:08] <sealive> morning from germany
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[03:07:59] <fragalot> Hey sealive
[03:08:24] <sealive> its a mess with this bots
[03:09:22] <sealive> im off filling watertanks for the next heat wave
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[08:39:22] <sealive> hi all
[08:39:34] <sealive> still only registerd use
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[08:42:34] <sealive> sun is out now for the firt time today so hedding towards garden
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[09:34:15] * Loetmichel is just deburring sheetmetal and mounting some Network switch enclosures... maan that takes forever... -> http://www.cyrom.org (and i should probably clean my desk a bit ;)
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[11:22:52] <skunkworks> https://www.model-engineer.co.uk
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[11:25:45] <skunkworks> 'linuxcnc is too complicated... I would rather create it from scratch..' Hey maybe a pll ;)
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[11:28:41] <jesseg> lol
[11:29:13] <jesseg> I created my own primitive replacement for LinuxCNC in perl. It's not GUI though, it's CLI with an interactive text menu.
[11:29:25] <jesseg> but I use it and it works most of the time LOL
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[11:36:20] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com
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[11:43:13] <skunkworks> JT-Shop: back?
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[11:43:48] <JT-Shop> dang freenode banned me lol
[11:43:57] <skunkworks> what did you do!
[11:44:11] <JT-Shop> I don't know I slept through it lol
[11:44:19] <skunkworks> Is it from your 'shared' sat ip address?
[11:44:31] <JT-Shop> hexchat keeps trying to connect and I think that pissed them off
[11:44:37] <skunkworks> ah
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[11:53:13] <{HD}> Wolf__: I posted some data on the flatcam discussion which led to finding this: https://bitbucket.org
[11:54:00] <{HD}> I only tried it with default so far which yielded the same results but there are many more options to play with.
[11:54:36] <Wolf__> hmm
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[11:55:34] <Wolf__> have to wonder if that artifact in the engraving is coming from the gerber
[11:55:48] <skunkworks> are you sure it insn't and artifact of grbl?
[11:56:08] <skunkworks> you have run it a lot of different gcode with the same results?
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[11:59:47] <skunkworks> (or your machine)
[12:00:12] <Wolf__> I ran his nc file on my laser and got the same artifact
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[12:03:10] <skunkworks> ah..
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[12:05:42] <ziper> jesseg, only because it looks like another boat will win
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[12:20:26] <sealive> hi all
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[12:24:48] <sealive> you cand welcome peopple here as you dont know if it is a spam bot
[12:24:59] <sealive> china IP
[12:25:12] <sealive> from sezuan province
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[12:26:10] <sealive> and the bot has quit
[12:27:00] <sealive> Loetmichel, getting hit by the torainchial rain fall
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[12:41:35] <jesseg> ziper, ahhh well but the experience! maybe next time you will win because of what you learned this time!
[12:42:49] <sealive> learning by doing is somewat expensive
[12:44:17] <jesseg> let me think about that for a minute. And you please think about it for a minute. Then we can both comment on the absurdity of it. :D :D :D
[12:44:45] <jesseg> I'm sorry my friend I shouldn't say that before having breakfast :D
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[12:49:49] <sealive> im on the way for evening diner in germany
[12:49:50] <fragalot> hey
[12:49:56] <sealive> ;-)
[12:50:04] <fragalot> sealive: don't you always have an evening dinner in germany?
[12:50:24] <sealive> 10minutes to go
[12:50:30] <jesseg> sealive, enjoy! But I would say that there is a kind of learning that essentially comes only by experience. Anything that's less costly then that isn't going to equal it.
[12:50:49] <ziper> jesseg, look, they are only a few hundred km from the finish https://www.microtransat.org
[12:51:06] <ziper> i don't want to be the second first transatlantic
[12:51:27] <jesseg> And in fact that's I think the problem with a lot of engineering - people are working from pure book learning and they miss many important aspects.
[12:51:45] <fragalot> jesseg: agreed, a lot of knowledge is being lost that way
[12:51:59] <jesseg> There's nothing like real world hands on failures to fill in the gaps from cut and dried printed theory
[12:52:07] <fragalot> especially as some schools still use books that are obsolete or had print errors in them that were corrected at a later date
[12:52:15] <jesseg> and in my opinion, the cost of doing that is worth every last penny
[12:52:19] <ziper> how the heck do i calculate the strength of a laminate with a given composition and cross section
[12:52:28] <fragalot> jesseg: only if it's someone elses' penny :D
[12:52:34] <ziper> i dont want to waste a couple thou in carbon fiber
[12:52:55] <fragalot> ziper: there are 2 ways
[12:53:04] <fragalot> manually, or with a finite element analysis tool :P
[12:53:26] <jesseg> fragalot, that makes it worth even more LOL but still... if you really want to be good at a subject it takes real practice :D
[12:53:39] <jesseg> ziper, well I can sympathize with that.
[12:53:54] <jesseg> but again, I'd make it out of cheap things like styrofoam and fiberglass
[12:53:57] <sealive> im off Gn8
[12:54:01] <ziper> what tool?
[12:54:01] <jesseg> GOod night!
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[12:54:10] <ziper> i tried solidworks and didnt like it
[12:54:21] <ziper> almost certainly because i dont know how to use it
[12:54:33] <ziper> or possibly because it doesnt model laminates well
[12:57:02] <fragalot> steep learning curve on whatever tool you use
[12:57:18] <fragalot> if you don't know how to use it, even a $20k tool won't help you :)
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[14:47:44] <Deejay> re
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[14:56:00] <{HD}> Whoops.
[14:57:29] <{HD}> Wolf__: that is just a test pcb I whipped up in kicad and exported gerber. There is nothing special with it. I can try a different kicad design but I dont have eagle or anything to test different gerber generation.
[14:57:52] <Wolf__> ahh
[14:58:20] <Wolf__> wonder if its something kicad is doing
[15:00:25] <Wolf__> just 0.125” circle pads right?
[15:00:53] <{HD}> That would suck. The .grb and .pcb and everything is in the repo. Yes approximately
[15:01:55] <{HD}> Kicad is my jam! It is my favorite for pcb design.
[15:02:08] <Wolf__> I have eagle and altium
[15:02:27] <Wolf__> maybe I’ll test a similar sample
[15:02:44] <{HD}> I quit eagle after autocad. And isnt altium like $10k?
[15:03:11] <Wolf__> call it a “demo” version
[15:04:12] <Wolf__> I haven’t done any board work in a few years tho
[15:05:33] <{HD}> I have the svg and dxf files in there too. Maybe just eagle import svg export gerber...to see if it is the kicad gerber-er.
[15:06:04] <{HD}> Anyway I am going to go see if I can tweak something in the ‘secret’ version of flatcam.
[15:06:05] <Wolf__> hmm
[15:08:24] <Wolf__> try using the svg or dxf in laser web
[15:12:51] <Loetmichel> hihihi... my wife is sitting there watching american late night shows. Her comment: "king george must be sitting in his grave laughing his ASS off... "and thats what you foght a war against monarchy for?!?""
[15:15:01] <MrHindsight> we reserve the right to be stupid!
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[15:21:14] <{HD}> Wolf__: they work just fine but I can’t do multi pass isolation routing on them to get thicker isolation.
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[15:23:13] <MrHindsight> Loetmichel: it's in one of our uhmendments
[15:23:46] <Loetmichel> {HD}: multipass... and now i have leela happily blubbering away on my imagination... thanks ;)
[15:24:14] <Loetmichel> MrHindsight: looks certainly like it ;)
[15:24:34] <Wolf__> {HD}: hmm, might be worth trying eagle or something. tho no idea how it works, last boards I did were toner transfer
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[15:25:26] <{HD}> Loetmichel: ha
[15:25:46] <Loetmichel> Wolf__: you could give Target 3001 a try... it has a VERY sophisticated GCODE exporter
[15:27:02] <Loetmichel> s/leela/leelo
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[15:30:58] <MrHindsight> {HD}: just being nosy, what are you trying to do different with the PCB routes?
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[15:33:46] <{HD}> MrHindsight: the stem of the issue is an error caused in the output of laser etching a pcb. The pcb tracks/routes now are just test shapes/angles to provide a complete test of the machine.
[15:34:25] <{HD}> https://github.com
[15:34:35] <{HD}> Here is all of the support material including pictures illustrating the issue.
[15:34:38] <Wolf__> so that nc file isnt as drawn, but using some post processing to add in the isolation width?
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[15:35:43] <{HD}> Wolf__: huh?
[15:36:37] <Wolf__> your drawing just the pad and trace, then the cam is adding the pathing to engrave the isolation?
[15:36:53] <{HD}> Yes
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[15:38:03] <fragalot> shouldn't there be a "spindle off" for each rapid?
[15:38:04] <Loetmichel> Wolf__: in target the insulation thickness is identical to the "rubout" thickness defined in the trace
[15:38:28] <Loetmichel> AND you can define seperate "cleanout" stretches
[15:38:56] <Wolf__> idk how that works, I usually do full board design then use the output direct from the board cad
[15:39:15] <Wolf__> more of a what you see is what you get
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[15:39:24] <Loetmichel> fragalot: most CNC spindles need 2-5 seconds to spinup/spindown... that would make programs VERY slow
[15:39:43] <MrHindsight> I have too any questions to be of any use today
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[15:40:06] <Wolf__> all of my milling spindle on until its done or I need tool change
[15:40:50] <MrHindsight> move Z up vs spindle off
[15:40:50] <fragalot> Loetmichel: this is a laser we're talking about
[15:41:09] <MrHindsight> are we?
[15:41:21] <Wolf__> laser depends on the controller
[15:41:23] <Loetmichel> lasers usually use a certain "z height" as trigger
[15:41:31] <{HD}> Yes all of the lasory stuff is handled by hardware.
[15:41:34] <Loetmichel> not the spinle commands
[15:41:38] <fragalot> alrighty :)
[15:41:54] * fragalot only has limited experience with laser projectors, not engravers
[15:42:05] <MrHindsight> fragalot: what's new in tulip town? :p
[15:42:08] <Wolf__> mine does laser off on G0 moves
[15:42:16] <fragalot> MrHindsight: I bought a schaublin 13
[15:42:17] <Wolf__> iirc
[15:42:43] <fragalot> MrHindsight: and cancelled the Moai to fund it >.>
[15:43:01] <MrHindsight> http://static.webshopapp.com
[15:43:04] <{HD}> I could make my own post process or change all of the Z moves to laser on and laser off. However because of the hardware take care of that already I do not need to
[15:43:27] <MrHindsight> fragalot: you can build a SLA/DLP printer for cheap
[15:43:42] <fragalot> MrHindsight: I can, but that may be for another day
[15:43:49] <MrHindsight> time
[15:44:23] <MrHindsight> schaublin 13 sounds like a movie title
[15:44:27] <fragalot> hehe
[15:44:34] <fragalot> I can't find anything bad about them
[15:45:06] <Loetmichel> fragalot: i also have seen them usimg custom M1xx commands instead of M06/M03
[15:45:10] <fragalot> I went to a "local" (read: another country) machine reseller to look at some Deckels
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[15:45:24] <fragalot> spotted a schaublin 13 that I fell in love with.. And bought one somewhere else
[15:45:32] <MrHindsight> nicer than those chinese drill mill things
[15:45:33] <Wolf__> yup, I was thinking right, G01 moves = laser on, G00 moves = laser off
[15:45:58] <Wolf__> but thats a firmware thing w/ the controller anyways
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[15:46:43] <MrHindsight> oh and it's Swiss made, makes the Germans and Japanese look sloppy :)
[15:46:50] <fragalot> MrHindsight: :-)
[15:46:56] <fragalot> it's a 1968 (I think) model
[15:47:35] <MrHindsight> even machines suffer from nationalism/racism
[15:47:36] <fragalot> came with a standard vertical head, high-speed head, geared dividing head so I can cut spiral gears, and a bunch of toolholders
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[15:49:19] <MrHindsight> is 3x380V common there?
[15:49:33] <fragalot> yes
[15:49:49] <fragalot> homes are typically 1x240V for older, or 3x220V for newer
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[15:50:05] <fragalot> i've got 3x240V and a 5kW transformer in my shed for 380V
[15:50:12] <fragalot> s/220/240/
[15:50:37] <fragalot> any form of industrial building or farmer will likely have 380V
[15:51:42] <MrHindsight> most farms here have only single phase 2 pole 120/240
[15:52:21] <MrHindsight> one of the reasons I could not find a location too far out from civilization
[15:52:22] <{HD}> Wolf__: yep. I just found in the new cam a grbl_laser post-processor but it initially messed up laserweb.
[15:52:52] <fragalot> MrHindsight: ew. :P
[15:52:53] <MrHindsight> they only put one HV phase on the poles way out in Green Acres
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[15:53:05] <fragalot> i've never quite understood the appeal of 110V
[15:53:26] <MrHindsight> you learned from out mistakes
[15:53:35] <fragalot> :D
[15:53:45] <MrHindsight> AC power, color TV, marrying cousins etc
[15:53:48] <fragalot> 3 phase is also quite a lot nicer than a single phase
[15:53:57] <fragalot> for distribution at least
[15:56:28] <MrHindsight> 3 phase is difficult to get in residential areas
[15:57:23] <{HD}> And its stupid expensive if you do have 3phase. They charge you peak charges and crap...its silly
[15:57:28] <Wolf__> I cant wait to find out how much 3 phase might cost at my house, if they will even install it
[15:57:34] <fragalot> all you need is a 300A service and one of those crappy phase converters :D
[15:57:51] <fragalot> Wolf__: friend of mine bought a workshop & had to have a new connectio installed
[15:57:58] <MrHindsight> we are in a 100K sq ft (9k sq m) building and they only brought in 120/208 3p
[15:58:00] <fragalot> existing 3x380V was from the previous owners' house
[15:58:05] <fragalot> cost him €15k
[15:58:39] <MrHindsight> the HV transformers are across the parking lot, and comes in underground
[15:58:49] <fragalot> MrHindsight: depends on what you requested doesn't it?
[15:59:09] <Wolf__> I’m on a main road, has 3p transmission so might be doable
[15:59:28] <MrHindsight> yeah, they cold have gotten 480 3p but then they would have had to put transformers inside the building
[15:59:39] <MrHindsight> the owner was too cheap for that
[15:59:45] <MrHindsight> cold/could
[15:59:52] <fragalot> Boo. :P
[16:00:28] <fragalot> that's why 380V+N is so nice
[16:00:59] <MrHindsight> Wolf__: how far are you from the poles with 3p?
[16:01:07] <fragalot> run heavy machinery off of that (or even just your kitchen furnace), and put phase+N to each power socket to get 240V for your everyday appliances
[16:01:17] <Wolf__> shop is about 300 feet
[16:01:22] <Wolf__> poles are in my yard
[16:02:17] <MrHindsight> Wolf__: they typical answer is "you pay for the transformer and the new drop"
[16:02:23] <MrHindsight> so ~$10-15k
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[16:02:27] <Wolf__> yup
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[16:02:47] <Wolf__> good thing I own a trencher
[16:02:48] <MrHindsight> lowest cost is transformer drop to the lower part of the pole...
[16:02:57] <MrHindsight> to the meter
[16:03:12] <MrHindsight> then you run your own wire on your property
[16:03:17] <Wolf__> permit + panel install is the $$$
[16:03:25] <fragalot> don't you need a sub-pole too now, MrHindsight ?
[16:04:00] <MrHindsight> fragalot: dpends on if he is going to go over or under ground to his shop
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[16:04:34] <MrHindsight> Wolf__: yeah , how many amp service?
[16:04:42] <fragalot> he's looking for a crane. I'm guessing underground :D
[16:04:48] <Wolf__> ^ lol
[16:05:10] <Wolf__> no idea, this would be after new shop built
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[16:05:53] <fragalot> Wolf__: moar is better.
[16:06:24] <MrHindsight> 200A 3p meter and panel ~$1000 for a permit and licensed contractor
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[16:06:52] <MrHindsight> then whatever else from meter or panel to shop
[16:07:09] <MrHindsight> panel/disconnect
[16:08:24] <MrHindsight> fragalot: the power co's get all sorts of leway compared to what you have to do for overhead runs after the meter
[16:08:38] <fragalot> yup
[16:09:48] <Wolf__> I have a few other things that need to be done first, addition on house, new meter and underground run for that, have property zoned commercial, build new shop
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[16:10:33] <MrHindsight> oh lots of fun for you
[16:10:35] <Wolf__> new driveway for sure
[16:11:15] * JT-Shop is glad he lives on a dead end dirt road off of a dirt road with no permits or zones
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[16:12:12] <Wolf__> permits needed because electric co wont do any meter work without it =/
[16:12:52] <Wolf__> I think they might get mad if I did that stuff myself
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[16:13:28] <JT-Shop> the coop just handed me a meter base and said call when your ready for power
[16:15:30] <Wolf__> lucky
[16:16:55] <MrHindsight> JT-Shop: one of the advantages to the boonies
[16:18:43] <MrHindsight> JT-Shop: your area was featured on a recent episode of Vice
[16:18:58] <MrHindsight> the nail plant and the aluminum plant
[16:21:15] <{HD}> Wow the grbl_laser pp wasn’t very good
[16:22:15] <{HD}> There is dwell for laser. Wth flatcam
[16:32:38] <JT-Shop> the nail plant is in the industrial park south of town, the aluminum plant is over by the Mississippi river
[16:32:59] <JT-Shop> after the staking engineer left I moved the stakes lol
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[16:55:42] <Roguish> JT-Shop: how are the chicks doing?
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[17:03:05] <Deejay> gn8
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[17:22:22] <enleth> oh man, the fun with the US power system again
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[17:24:59] <enleth> every time this comes up I wonder how is it possible that here, in a former soviet puppet state shithole, pretty much any building that isn't a doghouse or a port-a-potty either has or can easily get a 3x400V service
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[17:41:33] <JT-Shop> Roguish: they have a birthday Thursday and of course they are spoiled
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[17:53:39] <{HD}> Flatcam is dead to me.
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[18:29:02] <{HD}> Wolf__: does laser web beep when I has completed? I don’t have speakers on this machine but if it did beep I go find some speakers.
[18:29:25] <Wolf__> nope
[18:30:14] <{HD}> Suck
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[18:34:44] <Wolf__> if your controller has a extra relay, hook 12v to it and a car alarm siren, put gcode trigger at end of file =P
[18:38:53] <SpeedEvil> Or do a plunge cut into a M80
[18:40:38] <Wolf__> laser is kinda quiet doing plunge cuts
[18:40:52] <Tom_L> {HD}, does sheetcam work for that?
[18:41:06] <Tom_L> likely not
[18:41:26] <Wolf__> m80 might work tho =D
[18:41:45] <Tom_L> JT-Shop, did you aim your cannon at the stakes after you moved them as a dare?
[18:42:48] <{HD}> Nice! ignight firecracer when complete...That is a good feature.
[18:42:56] <{HD}> I haven't read anything about sheet cam.
[18:43:14] <Tom_L> well it may be an option, i'm not sure
[18:43:25] <{HD}> Wolf__: Look at this: https://github.com
[18:44:11] <{HD}> That is gcode from flatcam that is path follow. So, if you look at the circles the ends are not at the same Y
[18:44:21] <{HD}> So, somthing is wrong with something...
[18:44:25] <Tom_L> the fat lines look good, the skinny ones look crooked
[18:44:55] <Tom_L> why are you laser etching a pcb anyway?
[18:44:57] <{HD}> Tom_L: The fat lines were a different test. The fat lines in that pic are the multipass + the follow-path.
[18:45:30] <Tom_L> backlash on your axis?
[18:46:19] <{HD}> Tom_L: I tried to measure any backlash yesterday with my dial indicator and there was none registering.
[18:46:29] <{HD}> I could jog out and back to the same exact spot.
[18:46:33] <{HD}> in both axis
[18:48:25] <Tom_L> does the laser char the FR4?
[18:49:09] <Wolf__> wonder if its due to the output being more like steps vs smooth circular interpolation?
[18:49:40] <Wolf__> paint board, laser off the paint, etch?
[18:49:43] <{HD}> Tom_L: I am burning away a spraypaint mask to expose the copper to etch.
[18:49:59] <Tom_L> oh
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[18:50:12] <{HD}> So I havent hit the exposed fr4 with a laser yet.
[18:50:44] <{HD}> Wolf__: any thoughts on how to test that? Manually write up a gcode circle?
[18:51:18] <Tom_L> look at the gcode
[18:51:21] <Wolf__> no idea, use lcnc control + better cam post?
[18:51:37] <Tom_L> if it's line segments change it to circles
[18:51:43] <Wolf__> I dunno if the gbrl will do circles
[18:51:51] <Tom_L> it should
[18:51:58] <Tom_L> it's a very basic gcode move
[18:52:01] <Wolf__> ok
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[18:52:30] <Wolf__> I know {HD}’s nc file is all x/y with no interpolation code
[18:52:44] <Tom_L> G0, G1, G2, G3, G38.2, G38.3, G38.4, G38.5, G80
[18:52:50] <Tom_L> in that modal group
[18:53:47] <{HD}> Interesting.
[18:53:56] <Tom_L> https://github.com
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[18:56:19] <{HD}> Nice. So I will just code a gcode circle with a 3mm dia
[18:56:42] <Wolf__> that https://i.imgur.com is ~4000 lines of gcode….
[18:56:53] <Tom_L> add 2 sticks protruding from it
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[18:57:36] <Tom_L> should be about 28 lines
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[18:57:49] <Tom_L> maybe 30-32 with the preamble code
[18:58:15] <Wolf__> 8 lines per pass on the most complex
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[19:01:06] <Tom_L> how much stepover do you need on a laser?
[19:02:48] <{HD}> I am still dealing in my settings but I am estimating my laser diameter to be .075 mm. And I’ve been using a50% overlap.
[19:03:56] <Tom_L> do you call up a tool number for it or just run the code?
[19:04:11] <Tom_L> i'm used to mill & lathe code
[19:04:35] <{HD}> I just run the code.
[19:04:39] <Tom_L> i wonder if i have a laser post for my cad cam
[19:04:54] <Tom_L> i doubt it
[19:05:59] <Tom_L> even more so i wonder where the heck i put them all
[19:06:06] <{HD}> Can I just G00 X10 Y10, G02 I5, done?
[19:07:22] <Tom_L> for what?
[19:07:26] <Tom_L> G00 is a rapid move
[19:07:51] <Tom_L> you need G03 or G03 with X Y I & J
[19:08:14] <Tom_L> XY iirc is the arc center and I J is the endpoint
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[19:08:54] <Tom_L> I J correlate to X and Y
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[19:16:23] <Tom_L> G2 X0.0, Y0.0, I-0.5, J0.0
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[19:17:15] <{HD}> https://i.imgur.com
[19:17:27] <Wolf__> once you figure it out https://i.imgur.com works well
[19:17:54] <{HD}> Dang!
[19:17:54] <Tom_L> no, you need x y i j for G2
[19:18:43] <{HD}> Well I haven’t found a good resource yet then. Because what I just read said what I just wrote should work
[19:18:50] <Tom_L> you drew that with your spiralgraph and a pencil :D
[19:19:01] <Wolf__> I think I used the arc gen script in lcnc to learn it
[19:19:06] <{HD}> Tom_L: what is J
[19:19:20] <Tom_L> the Y coordinate for the endpoint of the arc
[19:19:32] <Tom_L> I is the X coordinate for the endpoint of the arc
[19:19:38] <Wolf__> https://i.imgur.com =p
[19:19:44] <Tom_L> X & Y are the arc center
[19:19:56] <{HD}> If you’re doing arcs. What if you’re doing circles?
[19:20:10] <Tom_L> a circle is a full arc
[19:20:39] <Tom_L> http://linuxcnc.org
[19:22:25] <{HD}> Sob! Windows just crashed! I’ve never had that happen before! “Driver_IrQL_not_less_or_equal“
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[19:25:35] <Tom_L> the example i posted was a 1" circle with 0,0 as the centerpoint
[19:26:41] <Tom_L> depending on G20 / 21 setting
[19:29:58] <{HD}> Hum. Still nothing. Gotta try something else.
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[19:31:48] <{HD}> Its gotta be something with laserweb...
[19:32:35] <Wolf__> laserweb kinda sucks for MDI, just serial connect to the gbrl
[19:33:01] <MrHindsight> enleth: capitalisim and guberment granted monopolies is why
[19:33:05] <Wolf__> it does some weird stuff to outgoing command line stuff
[19:34:39] <Tom_L> what is lasergrbl?
[19:34:44] <Tom_L> have you looked at it?
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[19:36:25] <Wolf__> dunno
[19:36:49] <Wolf__> I’m using smoothie with general cnc firmware
[19:37:14] <Tom_L> what laserweb version are you running?
[19:37:18] <{HD}> 4
[19:37:27] <Wolf__> no idea here lol
[19:37:30] <{HD}> But I just used universal G code sender.
[19:37:38] <{HD}> And I got a good looking circle as output.
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[19:38:33] <Tom_L> what do you use to load the gcode?
[19:39:06] <{HD}> My G code is trickle fed to the Grbl via laser web or universal Chicod sender
[19:39:20] <{HD}> S/Chicod/gcode
[19:39:34] <Tom_L> what i should have asked is what generates the gcode you send
[19:41:29] <{HD}> For the gerber pcb stuff I have been trying to use flatcam. I was using pcb2gcode but it has a bug that prevents my current project from working.
[19:42:06] <Tom_L> have you looked at inkscape?
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[19:42:43] <{HD}> Yes. I have inkscape loaded.
[19:42:51] <Tom_L> i've never used it for gcode but some have
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[19:43:18] <{HD}> I tried the G code extensions but did not get what I was expecting.
[19:44:20] <{HD}> https://i.imgur.com
[19:44:26] <{HD}> That’s the output from ink scape
[19:45:00] <Tom_L> wow that's awesome :)
[19:46:35] <{HD}> So, I just loaded the same code into laser web and it did cut a circle. However it does not show a circle in the G code viewer to be cut.
[19:46:45] <{HD}> So it must have a bug with rendering G2 moves
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[19:50:01] <{HD}> Anyway its dinner time. Will be back at it later.
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[20:56:34] <{HD}> So, Seems like the issue is with the cam software. That stinks. That being said it is still almost ok and would probabley be fine for testing.
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