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[01:04:40] <fragalot> 'sup
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[01:26:38] <Wolf__> morning
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[02:29:19] * fragalot dislikes schenkers' tracking
[02:29:59] <fragalot> it's one of those 'shipment planned' -> *total blackout* -> 'delivered' type deals that hasn't reached the 'delivered' stage yet
[02:32:14] <Wolf__> thats annoying
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[02:48:59] <fragalot> very - especially if it requires you to take a day off, as well as a few friends
[02:49:12] <fragalot> which you've already had to reschedule :p
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[03:05:47] <Deejay> moin
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[03:29:08] <CaptHindsight> "your item has shipped" yet "shipping label created, not yet received by shipper"
[03:29:30] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: something along those lines
[03:29:41] <fragalot> except schenker is the shipper
[03:29:44] <CaptHindsight> don't tell me it's shipped until the actual agent has accepted the freight/items
[03:31:42] <Wolf__> and 3 days later the tracking still says that usually
[03:31:53] <CaptHindsight> I'd rather be notified "shipment arrives at agent, no longer in hands of the seller"
[03:32:08] <fragalot> here it's showing as "en route" but not "out for delivery", with an estimated delivery date of today
[03:32:27] <fragalot> but the tracking locations haven't updated from the pick-up point to their original sorting centre
[03:33:20] <Wolf__> this is part of the reason that I’m looking to buy a yard crane, makes it a pain in the ass when you need to try to schedule someone that you need to pay $$$ by the hour to be there same time as truck delivery
[03:33:42] <fragalot> I wouldn't mind as much if I were here anyway
[03:33:58] <fragalot> but now it's a pain to be here, waiting for something that may or may not come
[03:34:07] <CaptHindsight> worst ever is Parcel Farce" in the UK, 6 weeks after it's been sitting in the UK they tell you they can't find the address, item being returned to shipper
[03:34:35] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: Nice.
[03:34:39] <CaptHindsight> then UPS has it there from the USA in 4 days
[03:34:51] <fragalot> I've had something similar happen when I got something shipped to me by a friend in the USA
[03:35:08] <fragalot> sat in customs for 6 months before I got a letter they had it and I was supposed to pay $750 storage fees$
[03:35:36] <CaptHindsight> the address in the UK is the name of the company, the 1/4 mile street is named after them since they have been there for 150 years
[03:35:40] <Wolf__> I have seen usps do some odd things
[03:36:01] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: ha ;D
[03:36:16] <fragalot> meanwhile in finland the post delivers things with the address sketched out on it
[03:36:49] <fragalot> sorry, iceland
[03:36:50] <CaptHindsight> yeah, Finland, it arrived a bit beaten up but it always gets ther
[03:37:01] <fragalot> https://www.telegraph.co.uk
[03:37:08] <CaptHindsight> well every local in Iceland knows everyone else
[03:37:24] <fragalot> house description being as generic as humanly possible in iceland
[03:38:11] <CaptHindsight> blue house by rock near gravel road
[03:38:50] <Wolf__> I had one package Calif> Maryland (where I am) > then went south via 2-3 scans down to Florida, took 2 trip over 3 days around florida going through one of the hubs twice…
[03:39:04] <fragalot> I'm wondering if I can learn anything new by calling schenker & asking for an update on the phone
[03:39:30] * fragalot is an impatient little bastard if there are no clear agreements :P
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[03:40:11] <CaptHindsight> Wolf__: there is some zipcode in California where whenever I send USPS it goes through Florida first
[03:40:11] <fragalot> Wolf__: it's great isn't it when it bounces back & forth between 2 locations
[03:40:37] <CaptHindsight> from Chicago
[03:41:02] <CaptHindsight> to near LA
[03:41:23] <Wolf__> just little out of the way
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[03:45:00] <CaptHindsight> Oh great shipping Gods in the sky, Please may fragalot's shipment arrive post haste...
[03:45:52] <CaptHindsight> may it not be lost like sheep amongst wolves
[03:46:06] <CaptHindsight> may it be guided by you heavenly glory
[03:47:19] <fragalot> :3
[03:47:23] <CaptHindsight> by the power of holy barcodes I beseech the
[03:47:42] <fragalot> maybe put up a temporary facebook avatar
[03:47:51] <CaptHindsight> ahmen
[03:49:19] <fragalot> what would be great is if every shipping company could do what the UK post seems to do
[03:49:24] <fragalot> tracking number gives you a live GPS feed
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[03:51:40] <CaptHindsight> just expect it to arrive next Tuesday....
[03:51:56] <CaptHindsight> then when it gets there Friday you'll be surprised
[03:52:01] <fragalot> can't, i've got some meetings I can't shift tomorrow & most of next week
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[03:52:38] <CaptHindsight> oh then it will arrive Friday or next week :)
[03:52:48] <fragalot> >.>
[03:52:50] <Wolf__> ^ that lol
[03:53:27] <fragalot> there's also a limit on how frequently I can get friends to also stay home all day to assist :P
[03:53:43] <fragalot> so I figure the best way to ensure it will come today is to complain about it on IRC
[03:54:08] <Wolf__> doesnt work, I have tried
[03:54:17] <fragalot> doesn't hurt to try
[03:54:37] <CaptHindsight> yeah, we have a loading dock but often the truck will pull up in front (opposite side of the building) and say "it's here"
[03:54:49] <fragalot> haha yeah we have that issue at work too CaptHindsight
[03:55:08] <fragalot> they always wedge the truck into the front part, completely ignoring the loading bays on the side
[03:55:19] <CaptHindsight> yeah!
[03:55:33] <fragalot> half the time they unload there too
[03:55:34] <CaptHindsight> anywhere but the dock
[03:58:51] <CaptHindsight> best way to be sure it shows up is to have somewhere else to be that day
[03:59:01] <fragalot> you mean like at work? :P
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[03:59:55] <CaptHindsight> around here it cost ~$50 extra to have them call before delivery
[04:01:06] <fragalot> apparently the guy that sold me the schaublin asked them mto do that
[04:01:13] <fragalot> whether or not they actually will however is anyone's guess
[04:01:49] <fragalot> I also tried calling them and they won't answer & told me the other guy has to call them >.>
[04:02:51] <CaptHindsight> nice
[04:03:34] <CaptHindsight> yeah I've tried to intercept a shipment at the terminal, they won;t do it
[04:03:52] <CaptHindsight> has to be arranged by the shipper
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[04:10:30] <CaptHindsight> http://advances.sciencemag.org
[04:10:50] <CaptHindsight> Poor Sleep Alters Metabolism and Boosts Body's Ability To Store Fat
[04:12:21] <CaptHindsight> and another fun one http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org
[04:12:37] <CaptHindsight> New Research Suggests Evolution Might Favor 'Survival of the Laziest'
[04:13:39] * fragalot paces around a bit
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[05:01:40] <veek> has anyone tried checking the type of steel for really cheap chinese tools.. i'm new to metallurgy and i was reading that quenching time determines hardness for 1045 steel (assuming we aren't using fancy alloys) and that we need to oven it for 1hr/inch
[05:02:02] <fragalot> really cheap chinese tools = pot luck steel
[05:02:03] <veek> so could be not buy dirt cheap tools and soup them up :)
[05:02:09] <fragalot> every one you order could be different
[05:02:46] <veek> rockewell C? it can't be alloy steel so.. the only variable is C
[05:02:50] <veek> and heating
[05:03:21] <fragalot> the carbon content won't be the same anywhere, it could be high enough, or it could be too low to harden
[05:03:23] <veek> I mean why will they cheap out on Carbon
[05:03:38] <fragalot> also bear in mind that heat treatment will warp it even further than it already is
[05:03:44] <veek> ah yeah :(
[05:03:49] <veek> shrinkage :(
[05:03:54] <veek> the fly in the ointment
[05:04:22] <fragalot> I mean.. they're typically not perfect to begin with anyway :D
[05:04:58] <veek> durrnn! grr! would have been fun though :p
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[05:09:37] <XXCoder> fuck.
[05:09:46] <fragalot> ?
[05:09:54] <XXCoder> something truly fucked happened at work
[05:10:05] <XXCoder> coworker palm got ripped off
[05:10:10] <fragalot> >.<
[05:10:14] <Loetmichel> ouch
[05:10:26] <XXCoder> im a wheck now, as hand hurt is my second worse fear
[05:10:42] <fragalot> other than his hand, is he going to be ok?
[05:11:02] <XXCoder> after months yes. he wont be back to work most likely
[05:11:40] <veek> wow - how?
[05:11:51] <XXCoder> he made a stupid mistake
[05:11:55] <TurBoss> sad to ear that
[05:12:07] <XXCoder> he stuck hand in chip conveyer, maybe thinking it was off
[05:12:13] <XXCoder> trying to get part
[05:12:33] <XXCoder> robo dont turn off conveyers right away like most machines however
[05:13:21] <XXCoder> its a screwup, a big one. still very depressing as hes awesome worker
[05:13:28] <XXCoder> well likely former worker
[05:14:18] <XXCoder> note not saying he'l get fired, company i work for is great on retaining
[05:14:40] <XXCoder> but 5 months is a long time, and he may well decide to move on from cnc machining career
[05:14:53] <XXCoder> but who knows
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[05:25:10] <XXCoder> the fucking smoke is still here
[05:25:16] <XXCoder> heavier than yeserdayu
[05:26:02] <XXCoder> my personal workday by itself was okay, did setup on fiberglass part, ran a few, did setup for different part on different machine meanwhile but didnt run it afterwards
[05:28:05] * fragalot hates fiberglass parts
[05:28:14] <fragalot> little glass particles get EVERYWHERE
[05:28:25] <XXCoder> thats if you dont use shitloads of coolant
[05:28:26] <XXCoder> we do
[05:28:38] <fragalot> still gets everywhere inside of the machine
[05:28:47] <XXCoder> tank is getting full though so need to dig u[
[05:28:54] <XXCoder> not really
[05:29:14] <XXCoder> we turn 75% of block into powder and machine is largely fine
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[05:37:10] <XXCoder> man hope he opted in for good insurance
[05:37:16] <XXCoder> I certainly did
[05:37:30] <fragalot> does that even matter if it happened whilst on the job?
[05:37:38] <XXCoder> I have short term disability insurance, as well as long term
[05:37:40] <fragalot> shouldn't the company be held responsible?
[05:38:06] <XXCoder> its life insurance, and company itself has L and I
[05:38:25] <XXCoder> L and I by itself isnt enough I think
[05:38:50] <XXCoder> besides its not company fault, he made a really bad mistake
[05:39:18] <fragalot> here it would be as it should not be possible to reach the chip conveyor before it's halted
[05:39:56] <fragalot> not that it matters imho, as all that matters now is that he's taken care of properly and not left to his own
[05:40:01] <XXCoder> its not inside machine
[05:40:12] <XXCoder> its in back, its seperate equipment from cnc machine
[05:40:35] <XXCoder> l and I would cover that yeah. he would need more though because 5 months is very long time
[05:42:20] <XXCoder> ligiments take forever to heal
[05:42:36] <fragalot> were they able to save them then?
[05:42:41] <XXCoder> unknown
[05:42:47] <fragalot> k
[05:43:03] <XXCoder> it happened 2 hours before end of shift
[05:43:09] <XXCoder> less actually but
[05:49:46] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: finally got a customer rep contacted.. but they need to check with their german colleagues >.< hopefully i'll have an answer soon
[05:50:42] <XXCoder> your package didnt arrive?
[05:50:57] <fragalot> still waiting for the mill to show up
[05:51:10] <fragalot> tracking number shows estimated delivery today, but the progress hasn't been updated since 3 days ago
[05:51:38] <fragalot> and they were supposed to call prior to delivery but haven't heard anything yet
[05:55:32] <XXCoder> ugh
[05:55:37] <XXCoder> industual fire at shelton
[05:55:49] <XXCoder> no wonder smoke didnt go away, its smewing toxic thick smoke there
[05:59:26] <XXCoder> 165 air quality now. down a single point. yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyybhbjhljk...
[05:59:41] <fragalot> what rating is that air quality in?
[06:00:24] <XXCoder> 0 is perfect to 500 which is deadly
[06:00:30] <XXCoder> 165 is "unhealthy"
[06:00:39] <XXCoder> out and around all day its like smoking 7 cigs
[06:00:41] <jthornton> morning
[06:00:47] <fragalot> nice
[06:00:48] <XXCoder> hey jt
[06:01:08] <fragalot> our scale is in µg/m³ .. tops out at 100 before hte meters crap out
[06:01:17] <XXCoder> shitty day for my coworker jthornton :( can you read backlog?
[06:04:15] <jthornton> bad mistake for him
[06:04:28] <XXCoder> yeah
[06:04:41] <jthornton> wow it's 57°F
[06:05:19] <XXCoder> I saw him right after it happened, I was sanding the fun fiberglass parts when I happened to glance back saw him running with hand in grip leaving blood trail
[06:05:35] <XXCoder> saw other coworkers run to him, I didnt go because I cant do shit
[06:05:51] <XXCoder> thats the other side to reason im so depressed. I cant do shit.
[06:06:21] <fragalot> you can do something, you can stay out of the way of the people that can.
[06:06:37] <jthornton> aye
[06:06:42] * fragalot also has zero medical training and does exactly that
[06:06:49] <XXCoder> this is why osha safety dont count me as "worker" in specific way, shop must have minium of 2 workers, and I cant count as one of those.
[06:06:58] <XXCoder> if he was alone with me, he might have died
[06:07:06] <XXCoder> if I didnt see him
[06:07:39] <XXCoder> fragalot: I have some medical training
[06:07:48] <XXCoder> requirement for old job I had
[06:08:05] <fragalot> you're ahead of me then
[06:08:26] <XXCoder> I may have been a dishwasher there but every worker must have training because older people who knows what would happen
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[06:31:20] <Tom_L> 68�F Hi 89
[06:36:49] <jthornton> we get that saturday
[06:37:07] <rmu|w> isn't basic first aid a requirement for drivers license in US?
[06:37:47] <fragalot> in belgium you're required to have a kit in the car, btu there is no requirement for you to know how to use it
[06:37:54] <rmu|w> keeping somebody with injured hand from bleeding out for half an hour shouldn't be that hard given proper first aid kit is available
[06:39:08] <rmu|w> here you have to do a 16h first aid course, the problem is that periodic courses every 5 years or so afterwards are not mandatory, so everybody forgets
[06:41:37] <rmu|w> i US you will probably be sued when making mistakes while "doing" first aid, here you will get sued if you don't help
[06:42:00] <fragalot> I thought they had the 'good samaritan' law to protect helpers?
[06:47:27] <Loetmichel> most CIVILIZED countrys have a similar law that frees an individual that is NOT a doctor from any "malpractice" accusations when helping others.
[06:47:43] <fragalot> Loetmichel: yah, but we ARE talking about the usa here
[06:47:45] <fragalot> :D
[06:47:45] <Loetmichel> for the sole reason that nobody would help if it could bring them jail
[06:48:03] <Loetmichel> thats why i wrote civilized in caps ;)
[06:48:10] <fragalot> hehe
[06:48:26] <fragalot> obligatory schaublin update: it's not here yet.
[06:49:44] * Loetmichel shakes a ton of miniature copper swarf from his clothes/hair... *note to self*: not a good idea to be less than a foot from a 6mm two flute that eats away copper busbar at F1200, 0,12mm doc and 24krpm...
[06:49:49] <Loetmichel> WHAT A MESS
[06:50:00] <fragalot> haha
[06:50:21] <fragalot> tricky material to cut too
[06:50:23] <Loetmichel> (making i7-heatsinks for 3 heatpipes to solder in)
[06:59:29] <jthornton> crap I keep getting a joint following error
[07:00:22] <fragalot> jthornton: you may want to consider seeing a chiropractor
[07:02:42] <XXCoder> fragalot: depends
[07:02:54] <XXCoder> some places you need training and proof
[07:03:06] <XXCoder> some its more overall as long as you prove you have comentacy to do it
[07:03:12] <XXCoder> cant spell that word
[07:03:45] <fragalot> competence?
[07:03:54] <XXCoder> yeah
[07:05:32] <XXCoder> my certification is long dead so I could be sued
[07:08:18] <fragalot> lovely
[07:16:46] <fragalot> man I could've gone to work at this rate
[07:18:36] <XXCoder> when they give you the time range, it really means "it wont arrive during any of those hours, unless its time period you left"
[07:19:01] <fragalot> i didn't even get that :(
[07:19:10] <XXCoder> ugh
[07:31:10] <fragalot> XXCoder: not even getting the "delivered." email before it's actually here indicating that they'll be here in like, the next 4 hours
[07:31:14] <fragalot> :P
[07:35:16] <jthornton> dang it feels nice outside
[07:35:34] * fragalot can't go outside or he won't hear the door bell ring
[07:36:03] <jthornton> attach it to a shock collar
[07:36:08] <fragalot> haha
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[07:45:42] <jthornton> https://www.homedepot.com
[07:48:17] <fragalot> old fashioned solenoid bell here
[07:49:03] <fragalot> or does this pick up the sound of th ebell & forward it?
[07:49:06] <fragalot> because if so, that's neat
[07:50:00] <jthornton> not sure how it works
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[08:24:33] <pcw_home> jthornton :re following errors, you may have a Ethernet latency issue, check all .tmax numbers
[08:24:51] <pcw_home> halcmd show param *.tmax
[08:25:28] <jthornton> thanks
[08:26:58] <pcw_home> That test config is pretty fast (20 IPS) so a timed out packet at 1 KHZ will show as a 20 mill FE
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[08:28:17] <fragalot> man it's great when the delivery company can't work out where your package is
[08:28:50] <pcw_home> I have an example config that avoids these FEs (on occasional Ethernet read timeouts)
[08:30:57] <pcw_home> tmax numbers are in CPU clocks so you need to know your CPU clock frequency to interpret them
[08:30:57] <jthornton> hm2_7i96.0.read.tmax is 1328373
[08:33:24] <pcw_home> what CPU and what Ethernet Chip?
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[08:34:01] <pcw_home> (Intel Ethernet chips need futzing)
[08:34:05] <jthornton> https://paste.ubuntu.com
[08:34:09] <jthornton> cpu info
[08:35:06] <pcw_home> ok so no Intel Ethernet chip :-)
[08:38:17] <pcw_home> ok so 1328/1650 is .8 ms and timeout threshold is set for 70%= .7 ms so you will drop packets
[08:40:09] <pcw_home> basically says the E450 is probably not great Ethernet host CPU and may require a slower than 1 KHz servo thread
[08:40:30] <jthornton> https://paste.ubuntu.com
[08:40:45] <jthornton> ethernet info
[08:41:00] <jthornton> ok I'll pick another motherboard I have a bunch of them
[08:41:32] <jthornton> I wonder if there is a way to test and display that... something to ponder
[08:42:17] <pcw_home> other option is to avoid FEs if they are only occasional by detecting timeouts and patching around the FE in the hal file
[08:42:45] <pcw_home> Ill dig up my config that does that
[08:43:00] <jthornton> ok, I'll be back in a bit shower time
[08:43:03] <pcw_home> Yeah look at the tmax numbers
[08:44:59] <pcw_home> My off lease Elite 8300 has been running cheerfully with a 4 KHz servo thread for a month now after disabling the intel Ethernet spyware
[08:45:38] <rene_dev_> pcw_home I feel like instructions to do so should go in the hostmot driver docs...
[08:55:42] <pcw_home> yeah the intel thing was a bit of a surprise, bad thing is that you cant disable it on some BIOs/hardware
[08:56:25] <pcw_home> (ME access to Ethernet hardware)
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[09:35:30] <veek> would it be right to conclude that steel is inherently ductile and soft and it's only the grain boundaries and destruction of it's crystalline arrangement that causes hardness.. it's like a cube with millions of interlocking bits.. each bit is a softy but you can't push the cube/hive around :p
[09:35:57] <veek> is there a way to reinforce the bonds between atoms somehow..
[09:36:08] <SpeedEvil> Do you mean iron?
[09:36:13] <SpeedEvil> Because steel is not one thing.
[09:36:22] <veek> well steel (iron+C)
[09:37:05] <veek> C is a very small amount so.. it's not the major player in there
[09:37:37] <veek> (i haven't got to actually understanding how C can make iron so strong)
[09:38:01] <SpeedEvil> That is not one compound, it is typically a mixture of various different states of iron, in irregular crystals.
[09:38:20] <veek> right.. that's the 'interlocking bits'
[09:38:37] <SpeedEvil> https://www.tms.org
[09:38:44] <SpeedEvil> https://www.tms.org
[09:39:36] <SpeedEvil> As I understand it, the stiffness is largely unrelated to the shapes, that is more related to crack forming and ultimate strength, stiffness is related to the bulk properties of all of the different phases.
[09:39:37] <veek> yi okay that will take a while (many thanks)
[09:40:03] <veek> hmm..
[09:40:30] <SpeedEvil> Also 'soft' is a problem, becuase if you are asking how stiff steel is really, in terms of how bendy - it is all pretty much the same stiffness - below a given stress limit.
[09:40:36] <veek> by shape you mean.. 'grain shape' or 'cubic structure'
[09:40:58] <SpeedEvil> Steel is not a crystalline material.
[09:41:24] <veek> wut! it is so! what about dendrite formation and BCC FCC
[09:41:33] <veek> are you sure
[09:42:12] <SpeedEvil> It is not a simple crystalline structure, it is made up of lots of crystals of usually irregular shape and various degrees of order.
[09:42:20] <veek> ah yes!
[09:42:34] <SpeedEvil> 'lots of intermixed blocks' - rather than crystals.
[09:42:44] <veek> yep!
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[09:43:12] <veek> so does the strength derive from the intermixing of blocks or from within the block itself (the BCC/FCC orientation)
[09:43:33] <veek> i always imagined steel to be intermixing of blocks
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[09:43:51] <veek> and heating makes the giant blocks fit better like a jigsaw
[09:43:55] <SpeedEvil> That in many ways is a bad question, as it presupposes the possibility of having pure blocks of homogenous single states.
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[09:44:03] <veek> err.. like a puzzle
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[09:44:23] <SpeedEvil> The blocks change state between forms as heated and cooled at different states.
[09:44:49] <veek> SpeedEvil, ah hmm right and the orientation within the blocks alters (BCC->FCC)
[09:45:15] <veek> but that's what causes the individiual blocks to form the locking bits
[09:45:24] <jthornton> pcw_home: https://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:45:35] <jthornton> would this be a better pc for ethernet cards?
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[09:46:25] <veek> anyway let me read on.. it's still the frigging 1st pass
[09:47:04] <SpeedEvil> The above was not particularly picked for anything other than pictures
[09:47:27] <SpeedEvil> I don't have a 'this is how steel works' primer to hand.
[09:47:50] <SpeedEvil> Are you trying to solve a specific problem - or general knowledge?
[09:48:06] <veek> no just GK and it's super interesting
[09:48:16] <veek> and i got curious
[09:48:47] <veek> the question stands out ..
[09:50:39] <SpeedEvil> https://en.wikipedia.org - the phase diagram of Fe-C is interesting and understanding the transitions between the phases is a starting point
[09:51:29] <veek> ah yep read that but i've forgotten bits - upper transformation temp etc
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[09:51:45] <veek> when it turns to austenite
[09:51:52] <pcw_home> jthornton yeah probably much better
[09:52:46] <jthornton> ok thanks, I'll load uspace on that one in the morning
[09:53:03] <jthornton> takes up less desk space too :)
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[10:09:34] <fragalot> still no word from schenker >.>
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[10:24:37] <Loetmichel> *FINALLY*... Not pretty but will work for the i7 prototypes... -> http://www.cyrom.org
[10:24:43] <fragalot> Somehow I don't think they're coming anymore today
[10:25:19] <fragalot> Loetmichel: need to get it into a tight spot? :D
[10:27:43] <Loetmichel> nope. passive cooled "point of sales"... think that here with an enclosure and a massive full witdht 3" high finned heatsink on the the back: http://www.cyrom.org
[10:29:49] <fragalot> so.. a kinda tight spot
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[10:42:15] <TurBoss> windowscnc?
[10:42:18] <TurBoss> lol
[10:42:47] <TurBoss> box looks good
[10:42:47] <TurBoss> !!
[10:43:38] <Loetmichel> tumdedum: more like custom enclosure for a customer that wants exactly that system for on desks
[10:44:55] <Loetmichel> obviously because we do shieldes systems the final version will be fully enclosed
[10:45:16] <Loetmichel> ah, TurBoss, tabfail. sorry tumdedum
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[10:57:55] <TurBoss> great!
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[11:25:34] <JT-Shop> pcw_home: just trying to understand the math you used how did you get 1328 from the tMax 1328373?
[11:27:04] <fragalot> from schenker: "sorry it appears our german colleagues are having difficulties understanding the english language"
[11:27:07] <fragalot> christ
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[11:40:26] <JT-Shop> I had a guy on the rig in West Africa ask me for a tool in English and I could not understand him at all, I had to get a guy from UK to translate for me
[11:40:41] <fragalot> lol
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[11:41:18] <fragalot> schenker is getting added to my shipping company shit-list
[11:48:23] <JT-Shop> as soon as he translated I could understand the guy
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[11:49:21] <fragalot> maybe they'll show up whilst i'm in there
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[12:05:48] <pcw_home> just shortened to usec
[12:06:52] <pcw_home> 1650 GHz CPU is 1650 clocks per usec
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[12:33:48] <Tecan> got the flight mechanics worked out for tesla's flying machine http://www.netpipe.ca https://www.thingiverse.com
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[13:09:56] <JT-Shop> thanks
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[13:33:10] <gloops> https://www.theguardian.com
[13:34:52] <gloops> clever
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[14:02:05] <FinboySlick> I kinda like it.
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[14:22:19] <fragalot> gloops: let's hope they make them as reliable as the AK's :P
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[14:35:21] <gloops> novel idea, retro look electric car, teslas look pretty cliche
[14:41:14] <CaptHindsight> that's not retro, that's modern Russian design :)
[14:41:52] <Tecan> https://www.thingiverse.com
[14:41:58] <Tecan> tesla flying stove
[14:42:56] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com CCCP1: Today Is Moscow!
[14:49:53] <CaptHindsight> Mahindra e2o Plus | First Drive | Autocar India https://www.youtube.com
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[14:56:41] <CaptHindsight> https://electrek.co
[14:57:09] <CaptHindsight> "Chinese EV start-up Singulato Motors said that it secured funding to invest 15 billion yuan ($2.39 billion USD)"
[14:58:07] <CaptHindsight> the good part is all this will drive the prices of EV's down..
[14:58:46] <gloops> to 0
[14:58:57] <CaptHindsight> one big negative to me is that the controls for these will be locked down from you to more keep track of you and your habits
[14:59:18] <CaptHindsight> more better
[14:59:54] <gloops> government will prevent low prices with regulations
[15:00:16] <CaptHindsight> yeah politics and corruption as usual
[15:00:22] <gloops> the only permissable cheap commodities are booze and porn
[15:00:49] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: guess what arrived in the mail today!
[15:00:57] <CaptHindsight> hah
[15:01:23] <CaptHindsight> while you were at work of course
[15:01:30] <fragalot> nah I stayed hmoe
[15:01:54] <fragalot> so I could receive a letter giving me €24 off on my next purchase at an outdoor shop >.>
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[15:03:20] <CaptHindsight> EV self driving, you can't fix it, and you can't turn off the tracking
[15:03:51] <fragalot> i'm driving a hybrid atm
[15:03:54] <fragalot> it's a farce
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[15:04:29] <fragalot> it doesn't use the electric motor 95% of the time, and burns fuel to charge the battery (it does not ONLY charge on braking)
[15:04:45] <fragalot> but.. y'know.. tax breaks. so that's nice
[15:05:03] <CaptHindsight> I drive reliable
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[15:05:42] <MarcelineVQ> '79 f350?
[15:05:47] <CaptHindsight> 300K miles down, 700K to go.... will probably be banned from the roads before then
[15:06:56] <CaptHindsight> 80 series Land Cruiser
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[15:10:10] <jdh> marlin perkins edition
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[15:11:31] <CaptHindsight> as long as you avoid using any Chinese replacement parts they just about run forever
[15:14:11] <CaptHindsight> replaced a head gasket at 180K and could not measure wear in the cylinders... will tear it back down when I notice any signs of oil in the exhaust or at 400K
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[15:16:51] <FinboySlick> CaptHindsight: http://www.legacyclassictrucks.com If you want to go both 'murican and fancy.
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[15:17:36] <CaptHindsight> not really a fan of open bed trucks as a daily driver
[15:18:11] <CaptHindsight> my last one was a 1964 Chevy with a 454, got ~7 MPG
[15:18:46] <CaptHindsight> was just for fun
[15:19:32] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: my last car did just under 90mpg
[15:20:15] <fragalot> current hybrid barely makes it to 40
[15:20:28] <FinboySlick> CaptHindsight: Well http://www.legacyclassictrucks.com starts at *only* $225k
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[15:28:31] <CaptHindsight> found a pic https://postimg.cc
[15:29:45] <fragalot> if you click the zoom button the image gets warped int he most hilarious way
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[15:30:34] <CaptHindsight> yeah
[15:31:10] <CaptHindsight> the odd thing is so did the truck :)
[15:31:23] <fragalot> weird that
[15:32:10] <CaptHindsight> https://postimg.cc
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[15:34:16] <CaptHindsight> was going to drive that to Japan and sell it there
[15:34:40] <CaptHindsight> with the aid of a ship for the damp parts
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[15:35:21] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: you could moses it over if you spray it with WD40 first
[15:35:52] <CaptHindsight> fragalot: any idea how people in your area get parts for old US cars?
[15:36:04] <fragalot> we don't have old US cars
[15:36:35] <CaptHindsight> do they allow them as antique vehicles?
[15:36:49] <fragalot> sure
[15:36:52] <CaptHindsight> or are they banned now from the roads?
[15:37:28] <fragalot> oldtimers are exempt from quite a lot of laws
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[15:38:05] <fragalot> but I doubt they are allowed in low emissions zones.. (don't quote me on that)
[15:38:50] <fragalot> I only know of one US oldtimer in my region belonging to a guy that sadly passed away recently, a cadillac eldorado
[15:39:46] <fragalot> he got most of his parts from meets iirc
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[15:45:36] <CaptHindsight> https://www.fastcompany.com
[15:45:54] <fragalot> rich rebuilds?
[15:46:40] <SpeedEvil> he also relies on Tesla equipment, because he can rent it due to his states right to repair laws.
[15:47:42] <Tom_L> CaptHindsight is that a '69?
[15:47:51] <CaptHindsight> I considered using their batteries and motors
[15:47:53] <fragalot> seems like a different guy
[15:48:01] <CaptHindsight> Tom_L: the truck? 65
[15:48:11] <Tom_L> wood bed?
[15:48:22] <Tom_L> i worked with a guy that had one with the wood bed
[15:48:27] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: I wonder if Tesla's starting to get out of the "make it fancy & wing it" stage yet
[15:48:37] <CaptHindsight> Tom_L: 69 https://i.ytimg.com
[15:49:11] <Tom_L> i didn't keep that close tabs on the years of those
[15:49:11] <CaptHindsight> Tom_L: yes, it was an oak plank deck
[15:49:15] <FinboySlick> CaptHindsight has every year until 1996
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[15:49:34] <FinboySlick> And they're all red.
[15:49:35] <CaptHindsight> FinboySlick: 1974 and earlier :)
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[15:49:48] <CaptHindsight> after that they stopped making cars
[15:49:55] <FinboySlick> One of my friends has a 1935 3-window Ford.
[15:50:01] <Tom_L> i had a 72 which wasn't anything special
[15:50:53] <CaptHindsight> I used to restore ~1960 - 74 GM (mostly Pontiac) and Mustangs
[15:51:03] <Deejay> gn8
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[15:51:40] <FinboySlick> CaptHindsight: Investing in your cool-dad credentials before you noticed that all they like is the tablet nowadays? ;)
[15:52:42] <CaptHindsight> in pre dad days, after dad I only managed to complete one restoration
[15:52:52] <CaptHindsight> no time
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[15:53:13] <Tom_L> no kidding
[15:53:32] <Tom_L> i was lucky to get the mill built
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[15:54:15] <Tom_L> but i made a couple parts for em, now they're showing some interest in it
[15:54:17] <CaptHindsight> not mine 1972 Mach-1 http://image.mustangandfords.com
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[15:54:43] <Tom_L> i didn't like that body style
[15:54:54] <Tom_L> the early ones looked better
[15:55:12] <CaptHindsight> I'm just finishing up my sons car, was supposed to just be a quick repaint...
[15:55:26] <Tom_L> you could pack your luggage in front of the engine on those
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[15:55:38] <CaptHindsight> Tom_L: me too, I got that rust free and all in parts for $1500
[15:56:03] <Tom_L> i could like it a little for that :D
[15:56:08] <CaptHindsight> trailered all the parts home, took a year to put together and paint
[15:56:47] <CaptHindsight> 351 Cleveland, 4-speed, posi, 99% stock
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[15:57:02] <Tom_L> those were the days
[15:57:19] <Tom_L> a friend had a 69 440 cuda 6 pack
[15:57:29] <CaptHindsight> my kids were ~5, they loved it since it was like riding on a roller coaster
[15:57:38] <FinboySlick> Reminds me... I wonder if Suburban Tools finished restoring that old Capri.
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[16:00:41] <CaptHindsight> now I just want a car that just works
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[16:02:54] <CaptHindsight> I mostly restored these https://classiccars.com
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[16:06:19] <XXCoder> woooow
[16:06:25] <XXCoder> I can see them hills and mountains
[16:06:40] <CaptHindsight> https://www.ebay.com ~$20K for a used Tesla battery pack?
[16:06:41] <XXCoder> smoke is much reduced now
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[16:07:03] <CaptHindsight> wind change direction of fire subsiding?
[16:07:06] <CaptHindsight> of/or
[16:07:24] <XXCoder> wind from ocean arrived apparently
[16:07:27] <XXCoder> cloudy here also
[16:08:18] <CaptHindsight> https://www.ebay.com
[16:08:43] <XXCoder> expensive.
[16:08:52] <XXCoder> you can convert it into house battery pack
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[16:09:05] <XXCoder> recharge when power is cheap, and use em during peak
[16:10:20] <XXCoder> probably take years to equal 18k though lol
[16:11:10] <CaptHindsight> was looking at retrofits for gas cars to EV
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[16:11:43] <CaptHindsight> there are some free Tesla charging station nearby..
[16:11:57] <CaptHindsight> so I can get a full charge for free
[16:12:18] <XXCoder> hmm is it for anyone or relsa owners only?
[16:12:23] <CaptHindsight> I wonder how long you could do that before they change the rules
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[16:12:37] <CaptHindsight> well the sign says Tesla charging station
[16:13:08] <CaptHindsight> all you need is the port and whatever hand shaking the power station expects
[16:13:14] <XXCoder> would be funny if use fake ev and charge battery pack, then go home and use it to power house
[16:13:26] <CaptHindsight> that was the idea
[16:13:31] <XXCoder> ah lol
[16:14:15] <CaptHindsight> how many KW hours are the packs?
[16:14:15] <XXCoder> maybe should be able to move using electity, fuel engine running when coming in station is mite suspectius
[16:14:37] <CaptHindsight> it's at a big shopping mall
[16:14:46] <CaptHindsight> nobody would even notice
[16:15:07] <CaptHindsight> slap a sticker on the car "Tesla test vehicle"
[16:15:17] <XXCoder> lol
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[16:15:31] <XXCoder> 1967 volkwagon
[16:15:45] <XXCoder> "Telsa test vehicle"
[16:16:10] <XXCoder> actually I'd love to have ev beetle
[16:16:52] <XXCoder> just grab "retired" vw, too damaged to drive, go to mexico buy used vw beetle, maybe 2010 or something, swap id then convert it to ev
[16:16:55] <XXCoder> so light
[16:17:28] <CaptHindsight> https://goo.gl
[16:18:20] <XXCoder> interesting
[16:19:10] <CaptHindsight> a few years ago I looked into importing small diesel engines from the EU for retrofits
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[16:19:39] <XXCoder> know what I always wanted? EU micro car
[16:19:52] <CaptHindsight> people do it but it ends up it does violate EPA rules
[16:20:06] <XXCoder> on safety or pollution?
[16:21:33] <CaptHindsight> the car would have to pass EPA inspections and test to be 100% legit
[16:21:45] <CaptHindsight> and that would cost you ~$100K
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[16:22:20] <CaptHindsight> so they left that hurdle in place in case they ever decide to go after retrofits of older vehicles
[16:22:55] <XXCoder> jezz
[16:23:11] <CaptHindsight> and it's worded like for a given engine in particular vehicle
[16:23:29] <CaptHindsight> so different combos would require their own $100K test
[16:23:56] <XXCoder> if someone else paid for test, everyone else dont have to pay?
[16:24:12] <CaptHindsight> not sure
[16:24:48] <CaptHindsight> probably fudge room for court arguments
[16:24:59] <CaptHindsight> so they can decide later how to enforce it
[16:25:42] <XXCoder> I can see reasoning on epa checkups becuse pollution
[16:25:45] <XXCoder> but so expensive
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[16:26:39] <CaptHindsight> see https://en.wikipedia.org
[16:26:57] <CaptHindsight> https://en.wikipedia.org
[16:27:08] <XXCoder> I know of tucker history
[16:27:15] <XXCoder> I actually saw one tucker in person
[16:27:25] <XXCoder> pretty amazing car
[16:28:25] <CaptHindsight> I'd love a stackable battery pack...
[16:28:39] <XXCoder> uh I got idea for you
[16:28:39] <CaptHindsight> but I don't ever expect to see one unless I build it
[16:28:58] <XXCoder> get a van, it cant hold shit besides 2 persons
[16:29:24] <XXCoder> though taking to week to charge up might make person suspect
[16:29:34] <CaptHindsight> hah
[16:29:50] <CaptHindsight> I don't think they allow overnight parking
[16:30:11] <CaptHindsight> or bring extra cords and charge from 3-4 stations at once
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[16:30:43] <CaptHindsight> bbl
[16:30:53] <XXCoder> later, need to go soon anyway
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[16:36:18] <jthornton> hazzy-dev: if your not busy you should checkout the config tool
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[16:49:33] <CaptHindsight> https://www.techspex.com(10082)/2032 anyone work with this model?
[16:49:58] <CaptHindsight> S55-400 Hardinge-Hauser
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[17:01:11] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: ping
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[17:05:24] <JT-Shop> boss said I could knock off an hour early if I cleaned the coolant tank on the CHNC
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[19:22:21] <_unreal_> Ok so I'm about to purchase this.... ANY ONE know of a better deal then this? maybe more powerful controllers?
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[19:23:28] <Jymmm> _unreal_: buy what?
[19:23:48] <Tom_L> fill in the blank
[19:24:15] <_unreal_> frealing hell look at the link I didnt post
[19:24:16] <_unreal_> DUH
[19:24:24] <_unreal_> God Whats worng with you
[19:24:27] <_unreal_> https://www.amazon.com
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[19:24:31] * Jymmm backs up the dump truck to the blank and fills it in
[19:24:58] <Tom_L> still want that ehh?
[19:25:13] <_unreal_> had to wait till my next paycheck
[19:25:14] <Jymmm> _unreal_: "...Computer system:only support Win7"
[19:25:23] <Tom_L> i showed you a better deal
[19:25:26] <_unreal_> Jymmm, I dont CARE about the controller
[19:25:34] <_unreal_> Tom_L, ?
[19:25:44] <Tom_L> without the controller for ~100 less
[19:25:49] <_unreal_> LINK
[19:25:53] <Tom_L> no
[19:25:56] <Tom_L> it's in the logs
[19:26:06] <Tom_L> index
[19:26:06] <c-log> Tom_L: The #linuxcnc index http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[19:26:10] <_unreal_> My logs go back 200 lines
[19:26:20] <Tom_L> mine go back 10 years
[19:26:27] <Tom_L> probably more
[19:26:27] <Rab> Tom_L, did you post the link?
[19:26:29] <_unreal_> Mine are bigger then yours
[19:26:35] * Jymmm go back1 6 years
[19:26:41] <Jymmm> 16 years+
[19:27:05] <_unreal_> I'm not digging through that
[19:27:31] <Tom_L> what day did you first inquire about them?
[19:27:43] <_unreal_> THATS why I'm not digging.
[19:27:50] <_unreal_> I dont know if it was yesterdayor 4 days ago
[19:27:59] <_unreal_> or more
[19:28:14] <_unreal_> speaking of brb need to check the oven
[19:28:34] <_unreal_> just pan fried plantains before I got on :) SOOOOOOO good
[19:29:01] <_unreal_> fam. loves my cooking. :) I spend like 15 years as a cook for different resturants
[19:29:48] <Rab> _unreal_, you asked about that Amazon listing on 2018-08-19 and 2018-08-20.
[19:30:17] <Rab> (And 2018-08-23, obv)
[19:30:36] <_unreal_> ! HELL I made a resteraunt in winter harbor maine... famous for my soy pan fried deep sea scollops
[19:30:55] <_unreal_> shrug...
[19:30:56] <_unreal_> brb
[19:32:07] <_unreal_> rab DUDE been some time since you and I talked.... Whats up
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[19:32:38] <Rab> _unreal_, not much, how's it going?
[19:32:56] <_unreal_> droping a shit load of $ again on an other project
[19:33:00] <_unreal_> building a CNC mchine
[19:33:04] <_unreal_> stupid strong cnc
[19:33:13] <_unreal_> one sec I'll post a link for ya
[19:33:18] <_unreal_> image
[19:34:02] <_unreal_> https://drive.google.com
[19:34:22] <_unreal_> Aprox 22x30"
[19:34:36] <_unreal_> I'm going to try and make a mill with a work area of 24x30
[19:34:43] <_unreal_> I'm briding X over the 30"
[19:34:43] <Rab> Nice base, where'd you find that?
[19:34:59] <_unreal_> next to a dumpster at the marina "work"
[19:35:14] <_unreal_> it has 5 or 6 C channels welded in across the bottom
[19:35:24] <_unreal_> STUPID strong, it was the base to a HUGE transformer
[19:35:57] <_unreal_> Was a 3 phase to lower power levels step down system originally
[19:36:01] <_unreal_> baseof
[19:36:10] <Rab> It's been subjected to weight, heat, and powerful magnetic fields, might be pretty flat. ;)
[19:36:18] <_unreal_> hum I think my space bar is wearing out
[19:36:35] <_unreal_> @#$% ya....
[19:37:08] <_unreal_> amazingly it seems that all of the welded parts are very parallel
[19:37:24] <_unreal_> I believe it came from a welding tooling jig
[19:38:04] <_unreal_> regarding production
[19:38:19] <_unreal_> Rab what do you think of that motors kit?
[19:38:52] <Tom_L> https://www.ebay.com
[19:38:55] <Tom_L> maybe that was it
[19:39:26] <_unreal_> Thats only 3 motors controllers etc...
[19:39:32] <_unreal_> I need 4
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[19:39:53] <_unreal_> 2x for Y, 1x x, 1x z
[19:40:12] <_unreal_> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That was really hard to type btw
[19:40:34] <Tom_L> https://www.ebay.com
[19:41:53] <Rab> On sale: https://www.ebay.com
[19:42:01] <_unreal_> the one's I posted still have more Torque
[19:42:04] <_unreal_> :)
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[19:42:28] <_unreal_> !!!! ooooooh
[19:43:13] <Tom_L> need more torque???? https://www.ebay.com
[19:43:22] <_unreal_> Tom_L, come on got some catching up to doo... playing with my money here :)(
[19:43:27] <_unreal_> LOL
[19:43:41] <Rab> That USB breakout board is $48 on its own: https://www.amazon.com
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[19:44:18] <_unreal_> ! speaking of money my daughter just asking me when were going back to disney... I'm like "CHILD FRIENDLY" WTF we just went the week before last.....
[19:44:27] <Rab> No idea if that would ever work with LinuxCNC. You should probably expect to use the supplied mystery meat software if you buy that kit.
[19:44:49] <Rab> _unreal_, sounds like she had a good time!
[19:45:10] <_unreal_> Rab, the "controller" is only a bonus... I'm using a different controller that I all ready ordered
[19:45:22] <_unreal_> always
[19:45:25] <Tom_L> so find a kit without one
[19:45:49] <_unreal_> disney and universal studios anual passes. to florida atractions $$$ :S so cheap
[19:46:03] <_unreal_> did I mention :S
[19:46:22] <_unreal_> Tom_L, I siad its a bonus.......
[19:46:34] <Tom_L> not if you're not using it
[19:46:42] <Rab> The kits Tom_L and I posted have a nice generic $5 parport BoB.
[19:46:46] <_unreal_> I could use it on my G10 cnc machine
[19:47:14] <Tom_L> i'd get the 7i69?? and a basic controller kit with the psu
[19:47:21] <Tom_L> i forgot which mesa card that was
[19:47:26] <_unreal_> Tom_L, did I tell you about my green g10 cnc machine?
[19:47:34] <_unreal_> rab knows prob far tomch about it
[19:47:41] <_unreal_> HELL rab you remember when I was building that right?
[19:47:43] <Tom_L> you may have mentioned it
[19:47:58] <Rab> _unreal_, hmm, I don't recall
[19:48:19] <_unreal_> !!! :) was it you or ccflman tha said they where plesently suprised by its design
[19:48:23] <Tom_L> if it didn't happen today, i probably forgot
[19:48:36] <Tom_L> hell, if it didn't happen within the hour....
[19:49:08] <_unreal_> Rab, remember that https://photos.google.com
[19:49:54] <Rab> _unreal_, I can't say I do, but I only pop in here occasionally.
[19:50:20] <_unreal_> dude i posted that on #electronics like oh boy 6 7 years ago.....
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[19:50:36] <Tom_L> https://www.aliexpress.com
[19:50:37] <_unreal_> Back when my Xwife was leaving
[19:50:45] <_unreal_> Starting to leave
[19:50:57] <_unreal_> And screwed her self
[19:51:33] <_unreal_> !@#$#@!$ posted in russian
[19:55:22] <_unreal_> Tom_L, lol $130 shipping on top of price
[19:55:47] <Tom_L> you can find better ones, was the first one that came close
[19:56:29] <Rab> I'd look for product shipping from the USA.
[19:56:44] <Rab> Even if it brings up the price a bit.
[19:57:43] <_unreal_> rab.... your thoughts..... What kind of bearing rail system.... the square rail or Key hold style? https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
[19:57:45] <_unreal_> or
[19:58:00] <_unreal_> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com
[19:58:23] <_unreal_> I need the greatest rigidity I can get
[19:58:46] <_unreal_> I'm having www.d2machiningsolutions.com do the work
[19:58:47] <Rab> I can't open that first link, but square rail all the way.
[19:59:17] <_unreal_> this is the kind of image from the fist link https://i.ebayimg.com
[19:59:37] <Rab> Yeah, get that.
[19:59:56] <_unreal_> Why that over the KEY hold shape style?
[20:00:01] <_unreal_> in your opinion
[20:00:58] <_unreal_> wtf dog walks into the room LICKS my left heal that is hardest to get to do to desk location and walks out of the room
[20:01:36] <_unreal_> just walk in lick. walk out
[20:01:41] <_unreal_> no questions asked
[20:01:54] <_unreal_> hell he even stiff tailed me
[20:02:28] <Rab> Because the round rail bearings can rotate, and the balls are rolling on a smooth surface. The square bearings are inherently more rigid because there's a machined track for the balls.
[20:03:30] <_unreal_> that is the most coherent and logical response to that question I have been given
[20:03:43] <Rab> I don't know of any advantage to the round rails, except that they're probably more tolerant of certain types of misalignment.
[20:04:12] <_unreal_> ! that I have read a few times
[20:05:40] <Rab> The rails still need to be parallel, though.
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[20:06:55] <_unreal_> Oh my god my 9 yo is trying to tell me about journey to the center of the earth...'
[20:06:57] <_unreal_> OMG....
[20:06:59] <_unreal_> palm to face
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[20:14:37] <_unreal_> first she tells me about the end then the start then like 20min in then more about the start... then back to some of the final min..... OMG
[20:24:10] <_unreal_> going to be an intereasting dinner tonight. I'm feeding my father. step mother and daughter... :)
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[20:26:36] <_unreal_> Freaking hell are you sure!!!? phiscribe What do you think
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[20:27:18] <_unreal_> hum
[20:28:00] <_unreal_> so rab.. tobad is wasnt caught on video.... I had a horrid issue yesterday......
[20:31:19] <_unreal_> an other guy and I were doing a rapid job on a boat.... had 2 hours to do a 5-6 hour job easy.... So we were cutting of the old flow deflectors of the under water exhausts and one of the approx 4x6x24" sized parts I tossed on the ground under the boat near the aft..... the boat was VERY low to the ground so the prop shafts were even lower. so squat walking was needed..... at one point in time. I went to the STB side of the b
[20:31:19] <_unreal_> oat to do or say something or tools I forget.... but I went running ISH back to my side PORT side... and this very light weight foam/fiberglass part was on the ground....
[20:33:25] <_unreal_> I stepped on it just kind of caught the end of it with my heal, just enough to FLIP it up "VERY LIGHT FIBERGLASS FOAM FILLED" and it caught me in the balls. but because I had so much speed I was moving fwd very fast..... the F'ing thing pollvolted me UP into the @#$@#$ prop shaft under the boat.... so I got wacked/crushed in the balls and lifted by my balls to run INTO the stainless prop shaft.... then I collapsed to the gro
[20:33:25] <_unreal_> und.... the guy that was working with me saw the entire thing... HE FELL OVER LAUGHING SO HARD!!!!..... I fell over crying so hard
[20:46:08] <_unreal_> sigh
[20:55:48] <Tom_L> day of injuries...
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[21:08:39] <{HD}> Wolf__: it works!
[21:08:54] <{HD}> Active devs are my favorite!
[21:18:08] <robotustra> evening {HD}
[21:18:29] <robotustra> did you mill your modified pockets?
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[22:02:54] <Tecan> https://www.thingiverse.com neat actuator
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[22:56:32] <veek> has anyone looked at steel through a usb microscope .. those x1000 things.. are they able to show grain and spheroidizing
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