#linuxcnc | Logs for 2018-09-02

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[00:42:12] <gloops> early to bed, early to rise
[00:50:58] <ziper> gloops, https://www.youtube.com
[00:56:46] <gloops> well, cant make noise this time of morning, only thing to do is practice cam/drawing stuff
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[01:16:45] <MarcelineVQ> gloops: you could listen to music
[01:17:45] <gloops> time wasted MarcelineVQ
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[01:19:26] <MarcelineVQ> what else is there for a human to do :>
[01:19:49] <XXCoder> theorically everything we do thats not eating resting and having sex is waste of time
[01:22:23] <gloops> in the grand scheme of things maybe, but to retain the will to live i have to give my life some purpose
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[01:24:17] <gloops> also probably autism lol
[01:28:08] <XXCoder> yep we all gonna find our own purposes
[01:31:45] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com fun bonus stages lol
[01:33:36] <XXCoder> its same sonic game that sonic, if left idling on map long enough, will flip off and jump off, then erase save file
[01:39:37] <veek> phew finished one complete pass of metallurgy
[01:39:41] <veek> book
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[01:41:05] <selroc> log
[01:41:06] <c-log> selroc: Today's Log http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[01:52:55] <gloops> youll soon be an expert veek
[01:53:49] <veek> paper tiger :p
[01:54:45] <veek> anyway.. i plan to teach this stuff (hopefully) so I need the practical xperience
[01:55:21] <veek> then my students can procure material for me :p
[01:56:28] <gloops> veek are these studies part of a degree or something?
[01:56:43] <veek> nope
[01:57:26] <gloops> im just wondering where the teaching comes in - ahh youre going to be an independent metalwork guru
[01:57:36] <veek> my sis is a bit ill.. so.. long story short.. the hospital suggested outdoor activity which she's reluctant to do
[01:58:04] <veek> so i thought i'd convert the house to a workshop and get people in
[01:58:15] <gloops> ahh right, good idea
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[01:58:48] <gloops> probably find lots of people willing to hang out in a workshop environment
[01:58:49] <veek> and she can maybe slowly be lured to do more work..
[01:58:55] <veek> yeah
[01:59:14] <veek> like a hackerspace
[01:59:38] <gloops> yep, so long as they dont bring their cans with them lol
[02:00:36] <gloops> i think that could work veek, sometimes a person cant see the point of something - until they see others doing it around them, different people contributing to the conversation etc
[02:00:55] <veek> if i finish the basic metallurgy then i can teach arduino+woodworking+metallurgy for free
[02:01:08] <veek> yeah!
[02:01:42] <gloops> and often they dont want to entertain the advice of a nurse or relative or whatever, but if someone else is saying it..
[02:01:51] <veek> yep
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[02:02:52] <fragalot> hey
[02:03:16] <norias> hey
[02:03:26] <miss0r|office> mornin
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[02:08:10] <gloops> mo'nin
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[03:06:02] <Deejay> moin
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[04:17:15] <HexaCube> good morning folks
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[04:19:08] <XXCoder> yo
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[05:58:40] <jthornton> morning
[06:17:32] <Deejay> hey hey
[06:18:25] <XXCoder> yo
[06:31:10] <Tom_L> morning
[06:33:24] <jthornton> morning
[06:35:14] <Tom_L> 75�F, Hi 89 summer doesn't wanna let go
[06:36:43] <jthornton> 70's to high 80's here for the next week
[06:41:05] <HexaCube> hmmm, did anyone do some research on building a soundproof box for his/her router? :P
[06:44:59] <cpresser> HexaCube: yes, its compliated. for setup work you dont want a box around
[06:45:44] <XXCoder> maybe something like double jointed doors so it can get way out of way?
[06:45:59] <XXCoder> soundproofing dont ask me :P
[06:47:54] <HexaCube> "setup work"?
[06:48:00] <cpresser> most of the noise my router creates is due to vibration. so a better stand, sharper tools, improved toolpaths help to reduce noise
[06:48:10] <XXCoder> setting up fixture, find xyz so on and on
[06:48:14] <HexaCube> ahh
[06:48:15] <XXCoder> stuff you do before running
[06:48:19] <HexaCube> okay
[06:48:21] <HexaCube> hmmm
[06:48:28] <cpresser> or during, if you dont have a atc
[06:48:39] <XXCoder> indeed
[06:49:11] <cpresser> removing a huge box first, then chaning tools, putting the box back, thats pita
[06:49:24] <HexaCube> right
[06:49:35] <HexaCube> perhaps some "drawer" mechanism might be interesting
[06:49:43] <HexaCube> but I'm mainly interested in what kinda materials work *best*
[06:49:54] <HexaCube> foam? rubber?
[06:50:04] <cpresser> everything(TM) that does not create addition vibration
[06:50:23] <cpresser> acustic foam does help, but needs cleaning
[06:50:36] <cpresser> and is non transparent, so you cant see your router work
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[07:01:26] <valentin_s> hey, i would like to connect my huanyang vfd via rs485 directly to the serial interface of my mesa card. Any suggestions?
[07:02:11] <valentin_s> there is the possibility to connect ist via usb/rs485 interface but the mesa interface would be nicer
[07:02:22] <valentin_s> i got a 7i96 fpga card
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[07:15:37] <fragalot> miss0r: looks like someone broke out the auto-feed endstop on X-.. noticed after I made a new one after I noticed it was missing >.>
[07:16:04] <miss0r> uhoh
[07:16:44] <miss0r> damn... I'm out of one way screws. Luckily I still have glue :D
[07:17:02] <fragalot> I think I may be able to make a new nut that bridges the gap, but I'll have to have another look at some other point
[07:17:05] <fragalot> first.. ribs :D
[07:17:11] <miss0r> :D nive
[07:17:13] <miss0r> with a c
[07:17:28] <fragalot> https://photos.app.goo.gl
[07:17:32] <fragalot> original right, new left
[07:18:02] <fragalot> also the first part on the mill :)
[07:18:10] <gloops> valentin_s you want the mesa people, jthornton pcw_mesa JT-Shop
[07:18:16] <miss0r> That looks pretty damn good. What did you use as blueing compound?
[07:18:47] <fragalot> forgot the name.. little blue bottle
[07:18:57] <miss0r> The birchwood gun blue?
[07:19:08] <jthornton> that's a question for pcw_home for sure
[07:19:14] <miss0r> "Birchwood casey"
[07:19:16] <jthornton> log
[07:19:16] <c-log> jthornton: Today's Log http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[07:19:18] <fragalot> miss0r: yeah
[07:19:23] <jthornton> index
[07:19:23] <c-log> jthornton: The #linuxcnc index http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[07:19:37] <miss0r> fragalot: Same stuff I use. It always works wonders
[07:19:38] <fragalot> i have no idea what material i used, but it wrecked a file :p
[07:19:55] <miss0r> Then it must be good :D
[07:20:25] <XXCoder> tooling steel?
[07:20:39] <fragalot> XXCoder: scrapbin special
[07:20:55] <miss0r> ahh. The notorious mystery metal
[07:27:13] <XXCoder> fun metal
[07:27:45] <XXCoder> I saw one gy in youtube using lathe on rebar
[07:27:52] <XXCoder> it looked pretty dang bad
[07:28:05] <XXCoder> drill twisted randomly as it went though random metal in rebar
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[07:36:19] <gloops> well my lathe to be was discovered, i reckon that baldor motor and controller would have been useful https://www.ebay.co.uk
[07:36:29] <gloops> but not for more than 30 quid
[07:37:21] <jthornton> python used to be my favorite programming language until I tried to distribute something with pip. pip is the most f**ked up crap I've tried to use in a long time
[07:38:04] <fragalot> lol
[07:38:44] <XXCoder> pip pip boy
[07:38:47] <jthornton> and there is no clear documents for pip only thousands of different versions lol
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[07:47:59] <HexaCube> hmmm, not pretty but I guess that will work for adding some rigidity? https://i.imgur.com
[07:48:32] <XXCoder> can add hollows but yeah
[07:48:50] <XXCoder> you know of adding hollows to increase strength futher than mere plate?
[07:49:03] <HexaCube> hollows like cutouts?
[07:49:20] <XXCoder> working around sides probably will be bit awkward
[07:49:20] <XXCoder> nah not cutouts
[07:49:43] <XXCoder> shallow pockets
[07:49:49] <HexaCube> got a picture of what you mean?
[07:49:54] <fragalot> there is a big difference between pockets and holes, XXCoder
[07:49:56] <XXCoder> looking still
[07:50:00] <fragalot> and pockets do not add strength
[07:50:09] <fragalot> pockets help with vibration damping
[07:50:21] <XXCoder> fragalot: it does in certain ways I read about it but cant find it
[07:50:46] <XXCoder> more twist resistance for one
[07:51:15] <XXCoder> dammit cant find
[07:51:20] <fragalot> XXCoder: also bear in mind material stresses, cutting pockets may well warp his plate
[07:51:33] <HexaCube> meh I wanna get those plates lasercut tbh
[07:51:54] <XXCoder> that can happen yeah
[07:52:12] <fragalot> HexaCube: Go for it. :)
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[07:56:51] <Deejay> re
[07:57:11] <HexaCube> Do you guys think 0.9° steppers are worth it if I wanna do PCB routing?
[07:58:02] <fragalot> the way you'll do the leadscrews will likely make more of a difference
[07:58:28] <HexaCube> I'm going to use ballscrews (not sure what you mean by "the way you'll do them", sorry)
[07:59:22] <fragalot> quality of ballscrews and rails
[07:59:27] <HexaCube> ahhh
[07:59:57] <fragalot> no sense in using a 0.9° stepper if you're going to use a C7 ballscrew
[08:00:20] <HexaCube> hmmmm, that'S regarding the precision, right?
[08:00:26] <fragalot> yes
[08:00:37] <fragalot> C7 is the common ebay one
[08:00:51] <fragalot> rolled, not very accurate
[08:00:54] <HexaCube> hrmmm
[08:01:03] <HexaCube> yes, to be 100% fair I was gonna go with the chinese ballscrews
[08:01:31] <fragalot> then don't bother with the .9° steppers :-)
[08:02:00] <fragalot> They'll work fine, worst case you need to do screw compensation in lcnc to correct them
[08:02:05] <HexaCube> C7 says +-50µm over 300mm
[08:02:09] <gloops> what accuracy do you need HexaCube?
[08:02:37] <HexaCube> well I'd love to be able to go down to 0.1mm traces, but I'm unsure what kinda step resolution I want, for that
[08:03:00] <gloops> thats doable with finest chinese hardware
[08:03:32] <HexaCube> it's 4mm pitch for the ballscrew, so a full step would be 0.02mm using 1.8° steppers
[08:03:33] <_unreal_> HEHE my first cnc machine could only do etching. that thing used quater 20 threaded rod :)
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[08:04:01] <_unreal_> and I geared the small pancake printer motors with the gears from the printers
[08:04:33] <gloops> yeah, could gear the z down, maybe a planetary gearboox
[08:04:37] <HexaCube> basically I wanna get as close to a professional PCB as possibel without spending crazy amounts of money :P
[08:04:39] <fragalot> HexaCube: that's fine.
[08:04:48] <HexaCube> fragalot: so, 1.8° steppers?
[08:04:59] <fragalot> HexaCube: don't forget that if there is not a lot of load, there's also microstepping to improve resolution
[08:04:59] <gloops> backlash not so much an issue for z
[08:05:08] <fragalot> even only 1/2 microstep would give you 0.01mm
[08:05:14] <HexaCube> I was originally going to get 0.9°, but those have just a few motors to choose from
[08:05:43] <gloops> 3 270oz Longs motors
[08:06:03] <_unreal_> HexaCube, how big of a machine?
[08:06:27] <HexaCube> ehhh, not that big, about 600 x 600mm footprint iirc
[08:06:32] <fragalot> HexaCube: 0.9° is a waste of money for what you're doing
[08:06:41] <HexaCube> fragalot: they're not more expensive to be fair
[08:06:53] <HexaCube> well, maybe slightly, but not in a way that would matter at all
[08:07:16] <HexaCube> https://www.omc-stepperonline.com
[08:07:44] <HexaCube> Machine footprint is 590x640mm
[08:07:59] <HexaCube> cutting footprint is around 340x500-ish
[08:08:20] <gloops> you know, thats quite big really
[08:08:26] <miss0r> Bah... I just got hurt witH the most dangerous tool in the shop
[08:08:54] <fragalot> miss0r: you walked into a table?
[08:09:06] <fragalot> (implying YOU are the tool)
[08:09:19] <miss0r> fragalot: sadly, A quite deep cut in my left thumb with a hobby knife
[08:09:24] <fragalot> ouch
[08:09:27] <miss0r> (which would underline I am the tool)
[08:09:32] <fragalot> I hate those knives
[08:09:34] <miss0r> Yeah
[08:09:35] <fragalot> they're always dull
[08:09:39] <fragalot> dull knives are dangerous knives
[08:09:48] <miss0r> sadly, this was anything but dull
[08:10:23] <miss0r> I am debating weather to go to the ER or not at the moment :) I've stopped the bleeding, I have full mobility & all feeling in the finger remains, so nothing serious was severed
[08:10:26] <miss0r> but it was damn deep
[08:10:42] <fragalot> might be good to get it cleaned & stitched anyway
[08:10:58] <miss0r> well, the amount it bled, there won't be anything to clean
[08:11:11] <miss0r> but stitches.. well.. that is pretty rare on a thumb
[08:11:36] <miss0r> I am almost certain they will just make a bandage the way I've already applyed it
[08:11:48] <gloops> set of motors here - brand new https://www.ebay.co.uk
[08:11:48] <miss0r> also, it happened while removing a 'burr' on your damn crate :D
[08:11:52] <fragalot> well then there's no point is there?
[08:12:02] <miss0r> I wouldn't think so
[08:12:02] <fragalot> you better not have bled on my tappig head! :P
[08:12:20] <miss0r> I have not. My ninja like reflexes had me outside the shop before it started dripping
[08:12:40] <miss0r> but cuts in the thumb bleed like a mofo
[08:13:02] <_unreal_> gloops, thats a nice deal
[08:13:21] <gloops> unreal yeah i ought to bid really
[08:13:31] <_unreal_> HexaCube, are you building or buying this pcb engraver
[08:13:39] <miss0r> fragalot: Luckily for you, i've run out of one way screws
[08:13:40] <gloops> but just shows - you can build a machine for very little if you scrounge round
[08:13:57] <miss0r> I have been generous with the glue, though :D
[08:14:00] <fragalot> miss0r: I heard something about glue though ._. the penny hadn't dropped until now
[08:14:01] <_unreal_> gloops, its getting tothe point where its cheaper to buy the baby machines
[08:14:11] <miss0r> hehe
[08:14:11] <gloops> probably yeah
[08:14:12] <HexaCube> _unreal_: I'm building it
[08:14:26] <gloops> the small cheap machines are usually crap though
[08:14:29] <HexaCube> that's how it looks atm :P https://i.imgur.com
[08:14:33] <gloops> you pay more for a decent made one
[08:14:35] <_unreal_> HexaCube, you could buy a working machine for $130 USD
[08:14:50] <fragalot> miss0r: P.S. the screws I used are hardened & I ground the slots out. :P
[08:14:54] <miss0r> haha
[08:14:55] <HexaCube> I'm a bit in a special position because I can get stuff made *REALLY* cheaply at work so it might be cheaper vs. buying one
[08:15:10] <HexaCube> plus I know what kinda components are in the machine if I DIY it (also I like tinkering and building)
[08:15:15] <miss0r> don't tell me that now: I have not yet put the lid on... I might be inclined to use glue there as well then :D
[08:15:24] <fragalot> ;_;
[08:15:26] <HexaCube> it's not meant only for PCBs but I also wanna do some plastic/wood
[08:15:44] <gloops> 300x500 might not be a big router, but you still need to be able to cut in that window the same as you would on an 8x4
[08:15:48] <miss0r> or... OR!! hahaha; fill the box with epoxy :D
[08:15:50] <gloops> i.e fast and deep
[08:16:03] <gloops> those chinese little machines are barely able to scratch wood
[08:16:06] <miss0r> this is ofc. the bloodlos speaking.. I would never do that.. or would I !? :D
[08:16:16] <fragalot> you wouldn't :)
[08:16:43] <miss0r> nah, I wouldn't... I would love to take part in ruining your day.. but not by ruining a tapping head :)
[08:17:14] <_unreal_> miss0r, wash it hold your hand up high to stop the bleeding.. get some super glue. glue your boo boo back togeather and get back to work
[08:17:42] <miss0r> _unreal_: Not doing any machine work today, so a bandage does just fine :)
[08:17:42] <_unreal_> I was a nurse for many years and a medtech
[08:17:54] <miss0r> I was an army medic, I got this ;)
[08:18:05] <_unreal_> miss0r, super glue is better then a bandaid.. look it up
[08:18:20] <miss0r> Yeah, I know. But the stuff I have is not suited for skin, sadly
[08:18:37] <fragalot> does the skin know?
[08:18:41] <HexaCube> get some staples :P
[08:18:43] <miss0r> Originaly made during the vietnam war, to close up wounds
[08:18:59] <miss0r> I have a nice bandage on my finger now. and I am working on ;)
[08:19:25] <_unreal_> super glue stops the pain. if the injury is glued well
[08:19:58] <_unreal_> does not help with the deep pain though but better then nothing
[08:20:45] <_unreal_> In my opinion its better to super glue and cover with a bandaid
[08:20:46] <miss0r> sure. This was a realy clean cut. It will heal nicely. Hardly any pain
[08:20:56] <fragalot> right, time to /ACTUALLY/ measure the schaublin now for scales...
[08:20:58] <_unreal_> how long ago did you cut it
[08:21:04] <miss0r> 10 minuts
[08:21:10] <fragalot> miss0r: you up for a skype tour? :P
[08:21:18] <miss0r> I'm in
[08:21:23] * fragalot -> shed
[08:21:39] <_unreal_> miss0r, its going to stat hurting a lot in about 2 hours and more in 12-24 hours
[08:22:14] <_unreal_> when the nerve endings start fixing them selfs.
[08:22:36] <miss0r> _unreal_: Yeah, I know. That is usualy how this plays out. In about 20 minuts, when the bleeding is stopped completely, I will open the bandage and apply butterflies
[08:22:44] <miss0r> Let it breathe a bit with that
[08:23:02] <_unreal_> O,o
[08:23:27] <miss0r> Why does that sounds so odd to you?
[08:23:40] <miss0r> I can't run around with a huge bandage on the rest of the day :)
[08:24:14] <gloops> causterise the wound miss0r
[08:24:20] <fragalot> miss0r: hang on need to log in >.>
[08:24:35] <gloops> with soldering iron
[08:24:49] <miss0r> gloops: Yeah, no thanks
[08:25:29] <sensille> or some high HF voltage?
[08:25:56] <_unreal_> bsszzzzzzzz
[08:26:00] <HexaCube> hmpf, mounting ballscrews seems to weird
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[08:26:11] <_unreal_> HexaCube, ?
[08:26:33] <HexaCube> the bearing mounts have to be the right distance apart for the ballscrew it seems, so i gotta make my machine just as wide
[08:26:37] <HexaCube> (hard to explain what I mean)
[08:26:48] <_unreal_> no I get it
[08:27:15] <gloops> did you get machined ends on the screws?
[08:27:27] <HexaCube> and I read that they're hardened so I can't machine them, either?
[08:27:30] <HexaCube> gloops: that was the plan
[08:27:36] <gloops> (they will cut and machine them for very little, if you have a specific size you need)
[08:27:51] <HexaCube> who is they? D:
[08:28:04] <HexaCube> or can I still cut them on a lathe despite them being hardened?
[08:28:19] <HexaCube> s/cut/machine
[08:28:20] <_unreal_> youy can cut them on a lathe
[08:28:27] <_unreal_> just be carful chucking them
[08:28:37] <gloops> the supplier - cncmotorshop charged me about £8 a screw for machining, which i though was good
[08:28:58] <HexaCube> ohhhh, well that make sit much easier, I can most likely do it on my own
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[08:29:13] <HexaCube> I thought you'd have to, idk, grind them and whatnot if they're hardened
[08:29:27] <_unreal_> LOL my daughter just opened her bed room door to wisper she got first place on what ever game she's playing
[08:30:06] <gloops> i couldnt do them because they were too long - also for £8 hardly seems worth messing about
[08:30:22] <HexaCube> gloops: well, I'd rather save me 24 GBP ;P
[08:30:25] <HexaCube> I can do it at work anyways
[08:30:34] <HexaCube> don#t even have to spend my free time :D
[08:30:35] <_unreal_> HexaCube, as long as you have good bits you should be find, the hardening on a lot of those rods is NOT deep
[08:30:52] <HexaCube> _unreal_: hmmm, we should have good inserts, yeah.
[08:31:06] <HexaCube> made in germany stuff, that should be up to the task
[08:31:20] <gloops> also, £24 will feed the 3 chinese boys who did the machining for 9 months
[08:32:31] <HexaCube> £24 will feed me, too ;P
[08:32:59] <HexaCube> I'm not earning thaaat much yet, gotta save where i can hehe
[08:36:01] <gloops> why not, if you have the equipment
[08:37:01] <gloops> im going to use acme screws on my lathe build anyway
[08:37:18] <gloops> well, got a ballscrew for the z but the others will be leadscrews
[08:45:22] <HexaCube> Interesting, building a lathe sounds really cool, too
[08:46:48] <gloops> leadscrews will be ok for this, with anti-backlash nuts, not high speed or anything
[08:47:01] <gloops> it is only a wood lathe of sorts
[08:47:09] <HexaCube> well, manual lathes use leadscrews too afaik?
[08:47:43] <gloops> yeah, you can use leadscrews for a cnc metal lathe for most applications - not bi-directional motion
[08:48:34] <gloops> or you can if the g-code is appropriate anyway
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[09:09:44] <gloops> this is the best design i can see, obviously mine will be made from scrap box section and so on https://www.youtube.com
[09:11:57] <fragalot> miss0r: the call ended with 'how would you rate the quality of this call?' but I can't answer because the keybd popped up and won't go away
[09:12:10] <miss0r> lol
[09:12:24] <fragalot> :D
[09:15:33] <miss0r> Alright. I need to get back in the house. :] See you around
[09:15:39] <fragalot> ttyl
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[09:22:30] <_unreal_> OMG....
[09:22:34] <_unreal_> I just found them
[09:22:52] <_unreal_> been sitting next to me the entire time...
[09:23:06] <_unreal_> I had purchased some JST connectors
[09:23:26] <_unreal_> been looking for them for a few days now. adn they were ON top in the bin right next to my desk
[09:29:00] <HexaCube> can someone tell me how this would be called in english? https://www.ortlieb.net
[09:29:40] <syy__> ortlieb collet chuck
[09:30:11] <syy__> if you give a link to the actuall description i might helpout
[09:30:34] * HexaCube smacks head
[09:30:34] <HexaCube> https://www.ortlieb.net
[09:30:38] <HexaCube> they have an english page too hehe
[09:30:54] <syy__> haha
[09:30:56] <syy__> ok :D
[09:31:14] <fragalot> o axial movement of workpieces due to clamping by pressure
[09:31:14] <fragalot> ha
[09:31:27] <fragalot> I wish I had thought abt using pressure to hold something
[09:32:33] <HexaCube> they're really cool, I'm told you can rechuck the part and it'll still run round
[09:32:52] <fragalot> mostly
[09:32:58] <syy__> have a seat when you look at the price of a single collet
[09:33:02] <syy__> ;)
[09:33:15] <HexaCube> syy__: well we have about... 30 or so at work :P
[09:33:24] <syy__> haha good :D
[09:33:28] <HexaCube> even more i think
[09:33:34] <HexaCube> 8-40mm in 0.5mm steps
[09:33:34] <syy__> we had them on one lathe in the apprentice shop
[09:33:39] <HexaCube> right, same here
[09:34:04] <syy__> all others are 5C
[09:34:32] <HexaCube> oh interesting
[09:34:47] <syy__> (i prefer the 5c style myself for general work)
[09:35:04] <HexaCube> the other two we have have this uhh... 3 jaw chuck (?)
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[09:47:04] <_unreal_> and with that I'm done soldering jumpers
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[09:47:50] <_unreal_> I decided to populate all of the jumpers on both the proto board and the tinker board. even though I prob wont use them :) just nice to have
[10:03:16] <gloops> ive still got one linkage to make for a sliding thingy, oughta do it now, see how i feel after this tea and cig
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[10:44:04] <jthornton> so much for shoveling dirt just too dang hot outside with no breeze...
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[10:56:57] <skunkworks> https://youtu.be
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[11:14:36] <gloops> skunkworks was it you in diycnc who was making the spindles from RC motors?
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[11:21:20] <skunkworks> gloops: no...
[11:21:28] <gloops> ahh ok
[11:22:00] <jthornton> nice, I've somehow bricked my Linux Mint farting around with virtualenv or something lol
[11:22:08] <skunkworks> someone else with a big machine?
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[11:23:43] <skunkworks> jthornton: I have been on a long quest to find a laptop that i can pass the integrated video to a virtual machine... so close
[11:24:17] <jthornton> pass what integrated video?
[11:24:51] <jthornton> brb I think I spotted the problem in .profile
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[11:28:34] <skunkworks> some laptops have say intel + nvidia. i want to pass the nvidia to a vm
[11:28:46] <jthornton> ah I see
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[11:35:10] <jthornton> bash doesn't like a \n in the if fi lol and you can't even boot up
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[11:55:41] <MacGalempsy> hello?
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[11:57:16] <MacGalempsy> =)
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[12:29:50] <MacGalempsy> Bueller, Bueller...
[12:34:30] <MacGalempsy> XXCoder: you around?
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[12:38:12] <jthornton> he's sleeping I'd imagine
[12:40:58] <MacGalempsy> hey JT
[12:41:18] <jthornton> hey mac what's been up
[12:41:45] <MacGalempsy> too much. been trying to get in trouble, but no time.
[12:42:30] <MacGalempsy> moved back to OKC and the wife sold the CNC with the house =(
[12:43:23] <jthornton> still doing the oil field work?
[12:44:03] <MacGalempsy> yes. onsite right now. about to open a new office in OKC
[12:44:41] <MacGalempsy> how is entrepreneurship?
[12:45:15] <jthornton> was pretty busy over the winter but it's a bit slow right now so back to making Spyder stuff for a bit
[12:45:28] <jthornton> I have one project that should start up in a month or two
[12:45:48] <MacGalempsy> new mitch market developing for the Mahindra Roxor
[12:45:49] <jthornton> always busy doing something even if it does not make money
[12:46:09] <MacGalempsy> mitch = nitch
[12:46:30] <jthornton> for off road accessories?
[12:47:01] <MacGalempsy> conversion kits to make them street legal.
[12:48:08] <SpeedEvil> Is there such a thing as half-nuts for M8 (or whatever) threaded rod? Not for CNC stuff,but for rapid adjustment - and where would I buy sucha thing?
[12:48:09] <MacGalempsy> seen a little about them. if the old cruiser wasn't getting a restoration, one would be sitting in the driveway
[12:48:42] <fragalot> anyone know what you'd call this style of oiler in english? https://www.leijenaar.nl
[12:50:34] <MacGalempsy> maybe the cnc sale was a good thing. although I feel bad for the guy who bought it
[12:51:24] <jthornton> fragalot: I had one once hmmm maybe a push oiler
[12:52:17] <fragalot> wondering if they're any good compared to your 'standard' plunger oil gun
[12:54:15] <jthornton> I think that the spring puts automatic pressure on the ball so it leaks less when you oil that type of fitting
[12:55:12] <fragalot> I mainly want something a little more compact than your average grease gun to oil the vertical head
[12:55:32] <fragalot> something you just grab, hit once or twice, and go type of deal
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[13:02:02] <Tom_L> fragalot, what about something like this: https://www.amazon.com
[13:02:12] <Tom_L> i use that quite a bit
[13:02:55] <fragalot> can I fit a zirk fitting adapter on there?
[13:03:07] <Tom_L> it fits in the ball and will work
[13:03:09] <fragalot> (and does it work with oil?)
[13:03:19] <Tom_L> i use grease oil would leak out
[13:03:31] <fragalot> shame, I need it for oil
[13:03:46] <Tom_L> the needle will fit in the ball socket of a zirk
[13:03:56] <fragalot> alright, that will work
[13:03:58] <fragalot> thanks
[13:04:07] <fragalot> (except it still leaks :-))
[13:04:25] <fragalot> or did you mean the fitting, not the actual gun?
[13:04:27] <Tom_L> i keep it in the top of one of the tool boxes and it hasn't made a mess in years
[13:04:37] <Tom_L> huh?
[13:04:57] <fragalot> 19:03 < Tom_L> i use grease oil would leak out
[13:04:57] <Tom_L> the needle will fit in the ball seat of a zerk and you can grease it like a normal gun
[13:05:07] <fragalot> alright
[13:05:16] <fragalot> cheap enough to give it a whirl anyway
[13:05:19] <Tom_L> it's meant for grease not oil
[13:06:31] <Tom_L> https://www.amazon.com
[13:06:57] <Tom_L> damn cut n paste...
[13:07:06] <Tom_L> https://www.bikeparts.com
[13:07:16] <fragalot> I have a few of those
[13:07:17] <fragalot> they suck
[13:07:22] <Tom_L> ok
[13:07:27] <fragalot> if the oil is too thick, it doesn't come out
[13:07:30] <fragalot> if it's too thin, it leaks out
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[13:07:38] <Tom_L> i just use the regular pump oilers
[13:07:49] <fragalot> I haven't really found a pump oiler that doesn't suck
[13:08:12] <fragalot> currently using the "SPEZIAL" from pressol which sucks.. less.
[13:08:13] <Tom_L> https://oldsingersewingmachineblog.files.wordpress.com
[13:08:20] <Tom_L> i also use some of the 2nd from the left there
[13:08:36] <Tom_L> kinda hit n miss if they leak
[13:08:39] <fragalot> so just the standard squeeze bottle style?
[13:08:44] <Tom_L> yeah
[13:08:49] <fragalot> Hm.
[13:11:33] <Tom_L> i keep one by the drill press for drill etc and one with vactra 2 for the vise surfaces and such
[13:12:25] <fragalot> i've only ever used those for degreasing & cutting oil
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[13:12:52] <Tom_L> they're cheap enough i keep a few around for various things
[13:12:59] <fragalot> yea
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[13:13:45] <fragalot> >.> I found an oil rated version of the thing I asked about earlier but they want €40 in shipping
[13:14:34] <fragalot> http://shop.nozemoil.nl <=== this thing is actually kinda ocol
[13:14:45] <Tom_L> https://www.google.com
[13:14:45] <fragalot> fits straight onto the bottle :P
[13:14:47] <Tom_L> woah
[13:14:55] <Tom_L> used to have one like the left one there
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[13:15:39] <fragalot> same, never used it
[13:15:51] <fragalot> I also have one that's similar to a genie's bottle
[13:16:01] <fragalot> neither is suitable for anything but straight down oiling though
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[13:16:43] <Tom_L> http://www.abmtools.com
[13:16:46] <Tom_L> mostly for those
[13:16:59] <fragalot> yeah
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[13:25:21] <miss0r> fragalot: How do you feel about me using GLS to send the tapping head to you?
[13:26:18] <miss0r> Also, I was being nice to you. I only used 16 screws for the lid. And only 4 of then has been rounded off :)
[13:26:40] <Tom_L> fill the rest with epoxy
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[13:29:07] <miss0r> hehe. Don't give me any ideas :)
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[13:30:18] <fragalot> miss0r: any shipper is fine as long as it's not schenker.
[13:30:27] <miss0r> schenker it is :P
[13:30:38] * miss0r has also had a bad experience with'em.
[13:30:48] <miss0r> So, you are safe there )
[13:30:50] <miss0r> ;)*
[13:30:52] <fragalot> :-)
[13:31:18] <fragalot> wood screw wise: easy enough to pop onto the table saw & cut a square in the lid :P
[13:31:55] <miss0r> The chinesium angle block set I ordered from a UK warehouse was lost apparently in transit.. it was sent as a letter with no tracking.. :-/ but yesterday he shipped me a new one on express, it will be here monday before 18:00
[13:32:08] <fragalot> ._.
[13:32:11] <fragalot> as a letter?
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[13:32:31] <fragalot> there is no way it fits the 'letter' description, my sets' HUGE
[13:32:32] <miss0r> "little did fragalot know that miss0r had added old carbide endmills into bores in the wooden frame"
[13:32:36] <fragalot> and also incorrectly sorted
[13:32:41] <fragalot> as I found out today
[13:32:46] <miss0r> :]
[13:33:03] <fragalot> the 30° was labeled 25° too
[13:33:10] <fragalot> :D
[13:33:15] <miss0r> On the steel as well?
[13:33:36] <fragalot> on that particular one, yes
[13:33:48] <fragalot> the angle itself is fine though
[13:34:08] <miss0r> well.. if it says 25 and is 30, one could argue the angle is not fine
[13:34:30] <fragalot> I bought it as a set of angles, nowhere was it agreed upon that they be marked correctly
[13:34:33] <fragalot> :P
[13:34:36] <miss0r> Speaking of steel engraving.. Does any of the chinesium laser "cutters" engrave on steel?
[13:35:00] <fragalot> the 100W might if you spray it with the right coating first
[13:35:32] <miss0r> bah
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[13:39:53] <miss0r> Thats it for tonight.
[13:40:03] <miss0r> Fragalot: I Think I will be able to ship it out tomorrow.
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[13:40:07] <miss0r> See you around
[13:40:08] <fragalot> miss0r: :D
[13:40:10] <fragalot> cya!
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[14:39:28] <Loetmichel> re at home. MAAAN driving german autobahns is tedious lately... took 90min to cross 6km (4miles) of traffic congestion in a road construction site ... and thats on a sunday evening where most Semis are not allowed to drive :-(
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[14:45:56] <flyback> Tom_L,
[14:46:04] <flyback> do you still have the web page with the mediatek flash programmer
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[14:46:24] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[14:49:51] <Tom_L> Loetmichel i thought there wasn't a limit on the autobahn :)
[14:50:55] <Tom_L> our whole city has been a construction zone lately. it gets old quick
[14:51:13] <Loetmichel> Tom_L: there isnt (always)... about 50% of the highway net in germany is unlimited
[14:51:33] <Loetmichel> road construction is usually limoted to 80kmh though
[14:51:48] <Tom_L> do you get in trouble if you don't stay to the right?
[14:51:49] <BitEvil> That's quite fast to construct a road at, to be fair.
[14:51:54] <Loetmichel> also i drove maybe 10kmh for those 6km because of the traffic jam
[14:52:21] <Tom_L> gives you time to enjoy the scenery
[14:52:24] <Loetmichel> BitEvil: haha
[14:54:26] <Loetmichel> at least i didnt burned fuel thru that... thanks to wifeys car being a merc GLC with hybrid drive the ICE stayed of the while road conbtruction zone... it only awakened afterwards when i put the pedal to the metal until the tachometer showed 240kmh ;)
[14:54:58] <Loetmichel> +f
[14:55:29] <_unreal_> flyback, got most if not all of my parts for the sla702X kits. resistors, pots, caps etc..
[14:56:22] <_unreal_> waiting for my pic rogrammer so I can programe my 12c502's with the turbocnc code that makes them phase controllers taking step/dir and putting out phase. whole or half stepping
[14:56:28] <flyback> thx
[14:56:56] <flyback> _unreal_, you know a stm32 even f0 has up to 36 55v tollerant i/o lines
[14:57:03] <_unreal_> have not had time to dbl check everything been stuck helping my father on his @#$@# house non stop so tired of it.
[14:57:06] <flyback> that's 4MB of parallel flash without any external logic
[14:57:14] <_unreal_> ?
[14:57:27] <flyback> if you move up to stmf3 or better you can have a usb bus to slave to a pc
[14:57:31] <flyback> for programming
[14:57:44] <flyback> for programming roms
[14:57:45] <_unreal_> I have an stm32f4 discovery
[14:57:51] <flyback> yeah me too that would work
[14:57:57] <flyback> kinda a waste for a f4 but yeah
[14:58:06] <_unreal_> I've never even used the thing
[14:58:17] <_unreal_> I really dont know coding
[14:58:26] <_unreal_> I can kind of read it but I've never had the chance to learn.
[14:58:46] <_unreal_> When I did have the chance I had ZERO desire
[15:00:22] <_unreal_> So annoying the fucker that produces the rpi cnc hat.... has his forum so locked down its pathetic..... https://forum.protoneer.co.nz
[15:00:34] <_unreal_> the forum is more or less usless
[15:00:36] <_unreal_> useless
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[15:05:52] <Rab> flyback, key phrase being "up to". E.g. STM32F303CCT6 has three UARTS, but only one is 5V tolerant. It pays to check your I/O.
[15:08:41] <flyback> WELL i SAID the i/o lines not specialized bus psins
[15:08:55] <flyback> and you always need to check the datasheet for each model
[15:09:43] <Rab> The specialized functions are combined with I/O lines, so the qualification still applies. Any given I/O pin might or might not be 5V tolerant.
[15:13:50] <CaptHindsight> _unreal_: what is locked down about it?
[15:16:29] <flyback> shift regs with a storage reg are awesome
[15:16:32] <_unreal_> CaptHindsight, you cant post
[15:16:37] <_unreal_> you cant MSG
[15:17:03] <_unreal_> and you cant reply to posts
[15:17:11] <_unreal_> there for its useless
[15:17:52] <_unreal_> CaptHindsight, in other words the only post's that get posted are one's that are ok'ed by the moderator...
[15:18:33] <_unreal_> There for that is a STUPID system. especially when the mod. thinks everyone should know what he/she knows there for its not "worth" posting something...
[15:18:35] <_unreal_> thats stupid
[15:20:54] <roycroft> you may not be able to post openly but you can always move on :)
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[15:31:45] <_unreal_> bugging me because there are a bunch of IO's on that board and NO one knows how to to use them or what they are for
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[15:49:52] <fragalot> christ I can't believe there are still websites that email you your password in plaintext when you sign up >.<
[15:52:59] <_unreal_> ?
[15:53:48] <_unreal_> so I'm trying to decide what kind of an unbilical cable I'm going to use between the main display/head unit and the controller box... I'm thinking printer cable
[15:54:03] <_unreal_> should be enough I/Os and power
[15:54:16] <fragalot> _unreal_: when you create an account on a website
[15:54:32] <_unreal_> :)
[15:54:34] <fragalot> back in the 1990's it was popular practise to email you your password in plaintext format so you wouldn't forget
[15:54:58] <fragalot> thankfully, since then, a lot of webdevelopers have concluded that both that, and storing it in plaintext is bad.
[15:55:06] <fragalot> sadly, not everyone appears to have gotten that memo
[15:56:25] <_unreal_> @#$@# more thounder
[15:56:32] <_unreal_> so tired of rain
[15:57:55] <gloops> ive just had a strange fishing experience
[15:58:16] <MarcelineVQ> _unreal_: send it this way
[15:58:18] <fragalot> gloops: was it one where you actually caught a fish rather than a shoe?
[15:58:45] <gloops> went for last couple of hours at local lake - 1 hour fine, lovely evening, then this wierdo came and sat 3 feet away from me and started fishing lol - empty lake
[15:59:06] <fragalot> you must 've nicked "his spot"
[15:59:20] <MarcelineVQ> that's the worst, like anyone goes fishing to hang out with people, you bring people along if you want to do that
[15:59:27] <gloops> fragalot lol, well maybe, i dont think so though, he was really odd
[16:00:13] <gloops> MarcelineVQ i wouldnt mine anyone coming to fish near me - but a total stranger, he never spoke or anything just stopped and plonked himself right there
[16:00:17] <gloops> mind
[16:00:44] <gloops> anyway im still alive so alls well
[16:00:46] <fragalot> gloops: i've made the first part on the schaublin today
[16:00:58] <gloops> fragalot which part was it?
[16:01:01] <fragalot> https://photos.app.goo.gl
[16:01:11] <gloops> and congrats on getting the schaublin up and running so quick
[16:01:11] <fragalot> new endstop catch thingy for the power feed on X
[16:01:14] <fragalot> the left one was missing
[16:02:00] <gloops> that looks good - very pro job
[16:02:18] <fragalot> simply copied the one on the right
[16:02:32] <gloops> i think that probably looks better than the original did when it was new
[16:02:35] <fragalot> except for the cam lock part, as I don't intend to move it
[16:03:40] <gloops> well, bodes well for the new build if the schaublin can do neat work like that
[16:03:47] <fragalot> indeed
[16:03:52] <fragalot> just ordered the DRO for it
[16:04:43] <gloops> excellent, things are finally moving again
[16:08:16] <_unreal_> Arg.... trying to find a good enclosure box for the electronics
[16:09:53] <gloops> unreal are you looking for a hacky kind of box or a purpose designed one?
[16:11:53] <_unreal_> I need to mount my 2 PSU'S both 36v supples, the 4 motor controllers and my solid state relays
[16:12:04] <fragalot> I just got a Rittal cabinet
[16:12:18] <fragalot> AE series
[16:12:22] <syy__> nice, fragalot :D
[16:12:30] <gloops> i used a stainless steel bathroom cabinet lol
[16:12:38] <_unreal_> I've seen a number of nice boxes at work in the dumpsters but never bothered to grab one.
[16:12:41] <_unreal_> now I wish I had
[16:12:52] <gloops> stainless steel is not a good material for a box, pain in the ass to drill
[16:12:56] <MarcelineVQ> I got a chunk of plywood and a wide open non-flammable space <_<
[16:12:58] <_unreal_> I'm just trying to gather all my parts
[16:13:24] <fragalot> _unreal_: https://photos.app.goo.gl
[16:13:34] <_unreal_> I have to build an enclosure :( I'm going to have thi smachine at work. and there is a lot of FRP dust.... fiberglass, gelcoat, awlgrip etc..
[16:13:52] <_unreal_> I'll have to filter the air as well :/
[16:14:21] <_unreal_> @#$@# raining again
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[16:15:35] <fragalot> syy__: what size tapmatic did you have again?
[16:15:47] <syy__> i think its the smallest
[16:15:49] <syy__> 30?
[16:15:53] <syy__> M1,7-M7
[16:16:05] <fragalot> hm. I just got the 50x but it's missing the nut
[16:16:25] <gloops> MarcelineVQ im going to use plywood next time
[16:16:50] <gloops> i had no trouble when stuff was mounted on a wooden board - put it in a metal box - nightmare
[16:17:01] <fragalot> gloops: because you forgot to connect the ground properly
[16:17:21] <fragalot> and you probably accidentally had it connected via some alternate route by accident before
[16:17:24] <gloops> fragalot only someone in the know would think of grounding the bob like that
[16:17:29] <gloops> i am not in the know
[16:17:49] <fragalot> I'm just saying that your problem would have been the same either way
[16:18:04] <fragalot> there had to have been a ground path in the old setup that you don't remember
[16:18:17] <fragalot> otherwise it could have physically never worked
[16:18:29] <gloops> well youre probably right, im not seeing how, but the ground worked
[16:19:04] <fragalot> it's because elctrical signals all need a reference point in the circuit
[16:19:05] <gloops> 2 months of noise hell, and a 3 inch piece of wire cures it in a stroke
[16:19:12] <fragalot> a 5V signal is only 5V if it has a GND to go to
[16:19:13] <syy__> yes, 30 tc/td
[16:19:14] <syy__> https://youtu.be
[16:19:44] <syy__> sometimes i wish i had the 50 in addition
[16:20:07] <gloops> the usb supplies 5v to the bob, one assumes it also supplies the 5v ground
[16:20:08] <fragalot> syy__: how complex is the nut? doable to DIY it, or should I start scouring ebay for one
[16:20:16] <syy__> the collet nut?
[16:20:24] <fragalot> yeah
[16:20:27] <syy__> its nuts
[16:20:30] <syy__> (sorry)
[16:20:32] <fragalot> :D
[16:20:37] <syy__> its built like an ER-nut
[16:20:50] <syy__> with an excentric ring where the collet snaps in
[16:20:50] <fragalot> including the excentric ring?
[16:20:56] <fragalot> hm.
[16:21:02] <syy__> i think its excentric
[16:21:08] <syy__> but the collet clips in, yes
[16:21:16] * fragalot will need to either obtain a new nut or a proper drawing then
[16:21:29] <syy__> do you have the rubberflex collets?
[16:21:33] <fragalot> not yet
[16:21:47] <fragalot> those seem to be easy enough to find
[16:22:48] <fragalot> I could simply try emailing tapmatic & see if they'll sell just the nut
[16:24:14] <_unreal_> I "have" a box I could use but I really dont want to
[16:27:39] <fragalot> I'm off -- cya
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[16:28:43] <_unreal_> I have a case I could use that has these connectors on it an-3102a-18-ss but I cant find them on line
[16:28:54] <gloops> unreal, as someone who is not savvy at all with the electronics side of this, i found a metal box presented problems id never thought of
[16:28:56] <_unreal_> I'm trying to find the male connector
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[16:49:13] <Rab> _unreal_, got a good high-res pic of that connector?
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[16:57:16] <pink_vampire> syy__: the tapomatic is nice, but i want to finish my servo spindle
[16:57:23] <syy__> :)
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[17:01:57] <JT-Shop> anyone need a tapmatic?
[17:02:13] <pink_vampire> you have one extra?
[17:03:02] <JT-Shop> yea
[17:03:36] <HexaCube> what's a tapmatic
[17:03:52] <HexaCube> apparently a really expensive tool
[17:04:23] <gloops> you can afford it Hexacube
[17:04:23] <Rab> _unreal_, if they're 3-pin, I suggest that SS is actually 5S, and that Amphenol 3102A-18-5S is the same thing. Which would make 3106A-18-5P a compatible plug. As you can see, they're kind of expensive new: https://octopart.com
[17:04:45] <HexaCube> gloops: I'm happy if I can afford gas to get to work tomorrow :P
[17:05:14] <JT-Shop> https://mesaus.com
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[17:05:27] <Rab> _unreal_, here's the cheapest used source I could find: https://www.ebay.com
[17:05:30] <Deejay> gn8
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[17:06:24] <JT-Shop> pink_vampire: I'll sell it for $400
[17:06:43] <XXCoder> JT-Shop: set of mics nice!
[17:06:57] <JT-Shop> cheap too
[17:06:58] <XXCoder> what company is it
[17:07:09] <JT-Shop> china
[17:07:14] <JT-Shop> let me see
[17:07:27] <pink_vampire> JT-Shop: my kidney don't worth that mach
[17:08:28] <Tecan> came up with this today http://netpipe.ca Game towns for the poor
[17:08:31] <JT-Shop> XXCoder: yea it just says made in china
[17:08:37] <XXCoder> lol ok
[17:08:55] <JT-Shop> I got it from MSC
[17:09:19] <XXCoder> so its quality chineseium not regular chineseium
[17:09:30] <JT-Shop> lol yea
[17:09:40] <XXCoder> unfortunately bec I very rarely need larger than inch
[17:12:47] <XXCoder> pretty amazing https://i.kinja-img.com
[17:13:05] <XXCoder> timing of this is nearly impossible
[17:14:19] <_unreal_> hi sorry was working on the box I'm thinkng about using
[17:14:23] <_unreal_> rab they are 8pin
[17:14:27] <_unreal_> 7 around and a center
[17:14:51] <_unreal_> I dont think I'm going to use them... it would be nice but I'd be suprised if I could get the connectors for less then $20 each
[17:15:13] <_unreal_> dont really feel like spending that much money
[17:16:06] <_unreal_> hay look at that its a STRIKE of RAINBOW
[17:16:25] <Rab> _unreal_, interesting.
[17:16:52] <XXCoder> _unreal_: its more than that, look closer at break near top
[17:17:15] <_unreal_> ?
[17:17:57] <_unreal_> ya I got nothing
[17:18:14] <XXCoder> theres a plane there being hit with lighting
[17:20:22] <Rab> _unreal_, sounds like it could be 3102A-18-8S. And yeah, not cheap.
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[17:31:10] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com
[17:31:19] <skunkworks> some assembly reqired
[17:31:26] <skunkworks> required
[17:35:17] <_unreal_> sweet found the cbales I need
[17:35:19] <_unreal_> https://www.amazon.com
[17:35:25] <_unreal_> https://www.amazon.com
[17:35:59] <methods_> some hot machine on machine action
[17:36:02] <_unreal_> https://www.amazon.com
[17:38:46] <XXCoder> nice
[17:44:57] <_unreal_> parts ordered
[17:45:23] <_unreal_> Now with those cables I can use the case I was looking at using
[17:45:27] <_unreal_> so far as I can tell :/
[17:45:32] <_unreal_> I'll know for sure when they arrive
[17:45:42] <_unreal_> I'm 90% sure I'll have the clearence
[17:45:57] <_unreal_> I have a nice little marine grade BOX
[17:46:12] <_unreal_> that the display will fill 98% of the face
[17:46:56] <_unreal_> But it will be nice because I'll have a very rugged box
[17:47:25] <_unreal_> I'm going to put "grab" handles on ether side that will also be stand offs to protect the display
[17:47:39] <_unreal_> should someone do something stupid
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[17:48:53] <_unreal_> meaning at work
[18:44:41] <jthornton> log
[18:44:41] <c-log> jthornton: Today's Log http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
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[19:36:24] <Tecan> http://www.netpipe.ca could make cement pads like this with pex pipe for thermal storage for under a mobile home , the pipes are tight cables
[19:41:07] <SpeedEvil> What is the insulation?
[19:41:40] <SpeedEvil> Bag of gravel may work better.
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[19:43:39] <Tecan> instant foundation
[19:44:09] <Tecan> no need to drill piles
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[20:17:27] <pink_vampire> After WAYYY too much time.the VFD is mounted
[20:18:40] <pink_vampire> i took a pic
[20:18:42] <Tom_L> upside down?
[20:20:07] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com
[20:20:43] <pink_vampire> the vfd cable go inside the head
[20:20:48] <Tom_L> you made a big mess
[20:20:55] <pink_vampire> the motor*
[20:21:07] <pink_vampire> pvc!!!!!!!!!!
[20:21:10] <pink_vampire> I love it
[20:21:36] <pink_vampire> it is not a 3d printer, it's a mill!!
[20:22:22] <Tom_L> you need lexan around the table to contain it
[20:23:31] <pink_vampire> all the "greenish" foam is the home of the machine
[20:24:10] <XXCoder> is vdf attached to head and moves up and down with spindle?
[20:24:17] <Tom_L> chips settle all over the tools though
[20:24:22] <pink_vampire> correct
[20:24:55] <XXCoder> hmm ok. whats you making though,
[20:26:29] <pink_vampire> Tom_L: there is air compressor, psss psss and all the chips are gone
[20:27:21] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: what do you mean?
[20:27:30] <XXCoder> the pvc thingy
[20:27:42] <Tom_L> a mess :)
[20:28:32] <Tom_L> i've filled my table enclosure with chips a time or two though...
[20:28:53] <XXCoder> sure its a mess but I have seen worse lol
[20:29:03] <Tom_L> so have i
[20:29:07] <XXCoder> pink_vampire: ya the curvey thing whats it for im curious lol
[20:29:18] <XXCoder> old fadal 88 half full with plastic chips lol
[20:29:23] <XXCoder> guess who had to dig em out
[20:29:44] <pink_vampire> the encloaser is 2 times the size that machine need, so it make a nice area to drill and make thing without make a mess all over the house
[20:29:44] <XXCoder> well fine more like 1/4 full but yeah lot of chips
[20:33:06] <XXCoder> indeed
[20:33:13] <XXCoder> makes setup easier without walls on way
[20:34:55] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: "curvey thing" you mean to the mini keyboard?
[20:40:40] <Tom_L> pink, is that an ER20?
[20:42:34] <pink_vampire> ER11
[20:42:43] <Tom_L> 8mm max?
[20:43:52] <pink_vampire> 8?
[20:43:58] <pink_vampire> i think 1/4"
[20:44:28] <XXCoder> pink_vampire: nah plastic being milled
[20:44:57] <pink_vampire> it's all just chips
[20:45:05] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com
[20:45:11] <pink_vampire> clean!
[20:45:36] <XXCoder> is red covers covering tools for machine?
[20:45:56] <pink_vampire> R8 collets
[20:46:06] <XXCoder> cool
[20:51:37] <pink_vampire> now I need to wait about a year and finish the servo spindle
[20:52:32] <Tom_L> did you make or buy the led strip?
[20:52:34] <gregcnc> why wait?
[20:53:26] <pink_vampire> Tom_L: just made it, it took me about 1 min to draw in solidworks, and about 1 min to cut it
[20:54:15] <pink_vampire> it is just 2 bus bars for + - and holes
[20:56:14] <XXCoder> thats awesome :)
[20:56:29] <XXCoder> i wanted to add led lights to under the spindle to my cnc router
[20:56:49] <pink_vampire> it is so easy to make them
[20:58:16] <pink_vampire> and I have thousands of leds here
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[21:01:18] <XXCoder> :)
[21:07:06] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com
[21:07:18] <pink_vampire> how i made the led light
[21:07:38] <XXCoder> very strightforward. I was thinking maybe I could simply use already existant strips
[21:07:48] <XXCoder> there is led strips for car thats already 12v
[21:08:19] <pink_vampire> if you have the pcb material it is soo fast just make one
[21:08:36] <XXCoder> I suppose but im never been any good on electrics
[21:08:41] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[21:08:46] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[21:08:53] <Tom_L> those are dimmable
[21:09:08] <Tom_L> made em for my scope but still haven't mounted em
[21:09:41] <pink_vampire> I just trying to use the stuff i have here
[21:10:20] <Tom_L> i had the leds and got the strips free
[21:10:46] <XXCoder> https://www.aliexpress.com
[21:11:00] <XXCoder> less than 2 bucks for one
[21:11:27] <pink_vampire> but you need 5 led per inch not 1
[21:11:59] <XXCoder> yeah but same time its great for surrounding light while more brighter for under spind;e
[21:12:15] <pink_vampire> but anyway the strip i made is going to be replaced by something much better
[21:12:22] <XXCoder> apparently this exists. https://www.aliexpress.com
[21:13:02] <pink_vampire> where do you need to put the light?
[21:14:19] <pink_vampire> the led in the maglite solitaire is SUPER amazing
[21:14:26] <Tom_L> i just put a 4' led shop light above the mill
[21:14:40] <pink_vampire> and you can get it for less then 10$
[21:14:59] <pink_vampire> i want to put it on a flex arm
[21:17:08] <XXCoder> solid led apparently though probably not very bright. https://www.aliexpress.com
[21:20:30] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: where do you want to put them??
[21:20:49] <XXCoder> those, nothing really just checking 9out weird led stuff on aliexpress
[21:21:27] <pink_vampire> get the led bulb from walmart and it will be much easyer and cheap
[21:21:52] <XXCoder> never will buy from walmart
[21:21:52] <pink_vampire> with the back to school stuff a desk lamp is less then 5$
[21:22:04] <pink_vampire> why?????
[21:22:38] <XXCoder> they seriously maltreat workers
[21:24:45] <pink_vampire> i have 2 friends that work there and they say it's a nice place to work in
[21:26:33] <XXCoder> cool
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[22:10:19] <jdh> they could look elsewhere
[22:11:35] <pink_vampire> jdh: ? what do you mean?
[22:12:03] <jdh> the seriously maltreated workers could look for employment elsewhere.
[22:16:47] <XXCoder> thats not very easy to do
[22:17:32] <XXCoder> in bunch of places its walmart or jobless
[22:40:13] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com
[22:41:05] <XXCoder> looks nice. doing that?
[22:41:50] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: the cable...
[22:41:59] <Tom_L> woops
[22:42:04] <XXCoder> oops
[22:42:11] <XXCoder> lot of fun fixing that
[22:42:32] <pink_vampire> just chop the end of the cable
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[23:26:01] <jym> pink_vampire: Just put a 8" pigtail then you cna use any extension cord
[23:28:17] <pink_vampire> it's not my stuff, just random pic from the internet
[23:30:32] <_unreal_> So my stepper motors are rated for 3 amps... thats 6 amps per motor when 2 steping
[23:30:33] <_unreal_> ouch
[23:30:38] <_unreal_> glad I got that second PSU
[23:32:49] <XXCoder> yeah
[23:33:00] <XXCoder> 3 steppers plus buffer
[23:33:14] <_unreal_> one psu is rated for 36v 10a the other 36v 11A
[23:33:29] <_unreal_> and yet the kit sold with ONE psu and 4 motors
[23:33:40] <XXCoder> geez!
[23:34:34] <jym> pink_vampire: https://i.imgur.com
[23:35:43] <Tom_L> tax dollars hard at work
[23:43:18] <MarcelineVQ> _unreal_: stepper motors don't run at stall amperage
[23:43:47] <_unreal_> ?
[23:44:12] <MarcelineVQ> Their rating isn't the load they'll be running under most of the time
[23:44:53] <_unreal_> ahh....
[23:45:33] <_unreal_> steppers are not like DC motors. they dont have dynamic current draw....
[23:45:44] <_unreal_> What are you talking about
[23:46:38] <_unreal_> a steppers current is based on its HEAT and power function curve...
[23:47:11] <_unreal_> What heat will it generate and how much force can it deliver...
[23:47:40] <XXCoder> _unreal_: steppers is at max power usage when its holding not moving
[23:48:37] <_unreal_> XXCoder, he's making it sound like the current draw changes on the motor between locked rotor and spinning
[23:49:36] <_unreal_> the saturation rate can change if the phases are changed fast enough... but a set current is a set current. what ever the motor controller is set to is what its going to feed the motor
[23:49:37] <Kevin`> ideally the current stays the same and the voltage increases when spinning faster
[23:50:09] <_unreal_> hence the heat curve doesnt change
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[23:52:42] <flyback> https://www.youtube.com
[23:53:20] <_unreal_> so I'm trying to decide how I want to mount my motor controllers in the old cnc box I was going to use for something else but have decided to use it for this big project.
[23:53:27] <_unreal_> mainly because its heavy duty and has a handle
[23:55:20] <_unreal_> I'm thinking I'll mount the drivers on a plate so I can remove and hang them all easy