#linuxcnc | Logs for 2018-09-06

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[00:09:03] <pink_vampire> i got taps
[00:09:14] <pink_vampire> and also 8-32 screws
[00:09:34] <pink_vampire> how was your day?
[00:09:45] <Wolf__> unproductive lol
[00:10:37] <pink_vampire> hope it is for a good reason :)
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[00:30:27] <flyback> https://www.youtube.com
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[00:49:52] <pink_vampire> why it is so quiet here?
[00:50:35] <Wolf_> no idea
[00:51:02] <pink_vampire> i need to think how to cant the parts
[00:51:03] <Wolf_> i’m looking up parts for my cnc plasma build
[00:51:04] <pink_vampire> :(
[00:51:17] <pink_vampire> CNC plasma!
[00:51:22] <pink_vampire> cool!!
[00:51:22] <Wolf_> huh, can’t parts?
[00:51:43] <pink_vampire> I have only the HF spindle
[00:52:05] <Wolf_> oh right lol
[00:52:15] <Wolf_> this is why you need 2-3 mills
[00:52:19] <Wolf_> =D
[00:52:25] <pink_vampire> the endmill max length is 24mm
[00:53:05] <pink_vampire> and I need to drill 25.4mm
[00:53:08] <pink_vampire> fun..
[00:53:34] <Wolf_> drilling all that for no reason
[00:54:07] <pink_vampire> i need to tap the holes/
[00:54:15] <pink_vampire> I hate blind holes
[00:54:18] <Wolf_> no need to make them that deep
[00:54:32] <pink_vampire> the screw is 3/4"
[00:54:43] <Wolf_> then your screw it too long
[00:55:04] <flyback> pink my grandma died 3 hrs ago so I am a bit more quiet
[00:55:34] <pink_vampire> OMG! sorry to hear that.
[00:55:36] <Wolf_> look at the nuts for the screw, thats really as deep as the thread engagement needs to be
[00:56:16] <pink_vampire> but it is stainless screw in aluminum
[00:56:33] <flyback> isn't that a auto matic fail?
[00:56:44] <flyback> metal reactions?
[00:56:54] <Wolf_> then maybe double the screw dia for depth then
[00:57:50] <Wolf_> I dont think stainless galvanically reacts with aluminum
[01:01:40] <pink_vampire> i need to drill 21.5mm with the the #29 drill
[01:01:44] <pink_vampire> 3.4mm
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[01:02:23] <pink_vampire> do you think i can just bore it in a milling operation on the cnc?
[01:02:39] <pink_vampire> 3.175mm endmill to drill 3.4 hole
[01:02:45] <Wolf_> seems like a hard way to do things
[01:02:45] <pink_vampire> and round one..
[01:03:15] <pink_vampire> I don't have a drill chuck / drill press
[01:03:28] <Wolf_> how...
[01:03:52] <Wolf_> like, the most basic of basic shop tools
[01:03:54] <pink_vampire> i have only the Er11 for 3.175
[01:04:02] <pink_vampire> and one for 4mm
[01:04:12] <pink_vampire> the drill is 3.4mm
[01:04:14] <Wolf_> put the drill bit in the lathe and part in a tool holder
[01:05:00] <pink_vampire> tool holder for ER11?
[01:05:33] <Wolf_> no, the lathe tool holder < put part to be drilled, put drill bit in the lathe chuck
[01:05:40] <Wolf_> drill 21mm deep hole
[01:06:37] <pink_vampire> mmm
[01:07:17] <pink_vampire> i think the Er11 1/8" collet can expend and get the 3.4mm
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[01:08:28] <Wolf_> no
[01:08:38] <Wolf_> ER collets only go smaller
[01:08:53] <pink_vampire> i have also 4mm
[01:09:18] <Wolf_> that may squeeze down to 3.4
[01:10:56] <pink_vampire> or maybe to drill it with my 2mm drill, and then expend it to 3.175 with the endmill (i can't find 1/8" drill)
[01:11:02] <fragalot> hi
[01:11:26] <pink_vampire> hi
[01:11:27] <fragalot> ER squeezes down up to 1mm by design
[01:12:45] <pink_vampire> I can;t find my 4mm er
[01:12:47] <pink_vampire> errrrrrr
[01:13:04] <pink_vampire> got it!!
[01:15:07] <Wolf_> 21mm blind hole for a #8 screw is a bad idea still =P
[01:15:41] <pink_vampire> the er11 4mm did it!
[01:15:55] <pink_vampire> it is holding the drill bit very nice
[01:16:34] <pink_vampire> I'm starting to like ER collets O_O
[01:16:47] <fragalot> lol
[01:17:12] <Wolf_> noob https://i.imgur.com
[01:17:44] <fragalot> hurr durr, someone accidentally found that firefox stores passwords in plaintext
[01:18:42] <fragalot> Wolf_: where you put that 1/8 collet bothers me more than it should
[01:18:59] <Wolf_> lol
[01:19:12] <pink_vampire> i like the 3d printed holder!
[01:19:28] <Wolf_> trying to keep it away from the 5/16 that cost more then that whole set lol
[01:20:05] <pink_vampire> fragalot: hat do you mean????????????
[01:20:55] <pink_vampire> Wolf_: do you have a 3d printer?
[01:21:05] <Wolf_> yeah
[01:21:12] <Wolf_> doesnt everyone?
[01:21:21] <pink_vampire> i want to get one also
[01:21:32] <pink_vampire> i have the print head that i made
[01:21:34] <fragalot> pink_vampire: an exploit was found where it appears that firefox's vault can be read out as plaintext
[01:22:18] <pink_vampire> that is bad!
[01:22:31] <fragalot> Firefox passwords are stored encrypted in a SQLite database in the user's directory. But, by default, the encryption key is hardcoded in plain text in Firefox source code, and Firefox offers the user a tool to print these passwords.
[01:22:35] <fragalot> French version available on the site.
[01:23:21] <pink_vampire> how is opera?
[01:23:38] <fragalot> god knows, I don't use the browsers' password managers anyway
[01:23:42] <fragalot> never trusted them, never will :-)
[01:24:02] <pink_vampire> 123456
[01:24:15] <Wolf_> mine are all in my mac cloud account
[01:24:31] <pink_vampire> i just use 123456
[01:24:34] <Wolf_> but I also have 2 factor turned on everywhere it matters
[01:24:44] <fragalot> it is also possible to configure firefox to store passwords without notifying the user
[01:25:01] <fragalot> which, imho, is the icing on the cake
[01:25:01] <fragalot> :d
[01:25:24] <Wolf_> thats just dirty lol
[01:27:23] <Wolf_> hmm, I need to pick steppers for the plasma build… nema 23 … but how much torque
[01:27:57] <fragalot> 12.
[01:28:00] <fragalot> 12 Torque.
[01:28:21] <Wolf_> one more then 11?
[01:28:26] <Wolf_> =D
[01:28:35] <fragalot> always strive for more
[01:30:21] <Wolf_> 175oz-in
[01:30:52] <pink_vampire> do you have the frame?
[01:32:08] <Wolf_> yeah, big pile of open build extrusion
[01:32:24] <fragalot> oh then you don't want 12 torque
[01:32:29] <fragalot> you might twist the frame :P
[01:32:47] <Wolf_> haha long as the torch isnt dragging
[01:33:59] <Wolf_> should only need to drag the torch lead around
[01:37:52] <Wolf_> 1 to 0.6N-M I think should do
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[01:51:44] <pink_vampire> i need help with the screw pattern
[01:52:49] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com
[01:53:13] <pink_vampire> i need 3 screws for the bottom and 2 for the sliding plate with the motor
[01:53:25] <Wolf_> and?
[01:53:44] <pink_vampire> how to arrange the screws?
[01:54:05] <Wolf_> 3 in the bottom 2 in the top?
[01:54:19] <pink_vampire> i think..
[01:54:27] <Wolf_> make holes, thread, ?
[01:54:50] <pink_vampire> but do you think it is look ok?
[01:55:11] <pink_vampire> the ones on the ends for the top plate
[01:55:23] <pink_vampire> and the 3 in the center for the bottom
[01:55:40] <Wolf_> works
[01:56:11] <pink_vampire> or maybe the first, and the one before the last for the top plate
[01:57:31] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com VS https://i.imgur.com
[01:57:33] <pink_vampire> Wolf_:
[01:57:56] <Wolf_> sure
[01:57:57] <pink_vampire> the yellow is the screws for the moving plate
[01:58:15] <Wolf_> which ever comes out better for the moving plate
[01:58:23] <pink_vampire> the same
[01:58:45] <Wolf_> then I would go symmetrical
[01:58:51] <Wolf_> harder to mess up the part
[01:59:55] <pink_vampire> the motor plate it is not symmetric anyway
[02:02:21] <pink_vampire> i think i have an idea
[02:03:26] <Wolf_> that sounds bad =P
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[02:55:48] <Deejay> moin
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[03:31:19] <Loetmichel> hmm, can anybody translate me the german "über den eignen schatten springen" to english? no idea to what that corresponds in english...
[03:32:39] <Wolf_> super something something something spring?
[03:37:48] <Loetmichel> The german proverb means "going out of the comfort zone" ... i want to give my kudos to someone that just did that on a reddit comment. ... That one is usually downvoting everything i say and did actually upvote my comment this regardless of his hate for my attitude.
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[03:39:33] * Wolf_ knows no german for the most part…
[03:43:43] <rmu|w> https://de.wiktionary.org
[03:51:07] <Loetmichel> rmu|w: i am searching for an english equivalent to said german expression. i do know that the german expression means ;)
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[03:54:03] <rmu|w> Loetmichel: it suggests 3 english, 2 french and one dutch translation
[03:54:22] <Loetmichel> huß
[03:54:26] <Loetmichel> hu?
[03:54:33] <Wolf_> just post it in german lol
[03:54:36] <Loetmichel> must have overlooked that
[03:55:14] <rmu|w> but, as you want it to post to reddit, that would amount to "öl ins feuer giessen"
[03:56:11] <rmu|w> "kudos, finally you bit the bullet and upvoted a comment of mine"
[04:02:18] <Loetmichel> indeed. thanks, found it
[04:02:59] <Loetmichel> https://www.reddit.com
[04:03:20] <Loetmichel> hope that doesent sound to "uppity"
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[05:47:30] <jthornton> morning
[05:49:44] <XXCoder> hey jthornton
[05:49:49] <XXCoder> \just found this https://www.aliexpress.com lol
[05:49:52] <XXCoder> made me laugh
[05:55:54] <jthornton> is it a real phone?
[05:56:06] <XXCoder> apparently.
[05:56:13] <XXCoder> gsm phones can be really tiny now.
[05:56:28] <XXCoder> I then looked for android phone, and there is ones smaller than credit card!
[05:56:28] <jthornton> seems the ruskies like it
[05:57:02] <XXCoder> https://www.aliexpress.com
[05:57:45] <XXCoder> that might be great for embedding into say car something
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[06:15:27] <jthornton> geez it's 73°F now at 5:15am an the high is 84°F for the day
[06:18:03] <XXCoder> 74f on thurs
[06:18:19] <XXCoder> sunday last 70s day then 60s
[06:18:48] <XXCoder> finally. its one of dryest washington weather this year
[06:18:58] <XXCoder> summer, usually pretty dry, was bone dry
[06:19:59] <jthornton> we had a really dry spell that killed some trees on my property
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[06:22:59] <XXCoder> 4 months, 2 days of mist and tiny brief rains, one actual rain that lasted for little bit
[06:23:11] <XXCoder> last one helped clear out last of ash and smoke
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[06:26:17] <jthornton> we have a chance of rain through Sunday
[06:26:43] <XXCoder> same
[06:26:59] <XXCoder> supposely this year winter will be one of worse ones
[06:32:56] <miss0r> Any of you guys know how to properly remove the motor from a biax 7/ES ?
[06:33:18] <XXCoder> yeah hammer. lots hammers
[06:33:21] <XXCoder> jk
[06:33:40] <miss0r> i know :]
[06:33:53] <XXCoder> stop! it's hammer time
[06:34:39] <miss0r> I have something snagged in the motor.. Its like turning a pepper mill with only a few peppers left in it
[06:35:03] <miss0r> I'm no expert on biax motors, but I think this is a bad sign :)
[06:35:38] <jthornton> tannerite maybe
[06:36:21] <miss0r> ?
[06:36:51] <miss0r> jthornton: The package you sent me *SHOULD* be available for pickup at the postoffice later :)
[06:37:51] <jthornton> cool
[06:39:03] <jthornton> how in the hell did I use .6GB of data yesterday I did not download anything... goes to check wifes phone to see if wifi is on
[06:39:39] <jthornton> https://tannerite.com
[06:40:32] <XXCoder> dang thats a lot of data
[06:40:43] <XXCoder> I use .5 gb a month
[06:40:54] <miss0r> wtf?
[06:41:00] <miss0r> I use 10gb+/month
[06:41:18] <XXCoder> I use way more at home, but it doesnt count as cellular data.
[06:41:30] <jthornton> yea I have 10GB a month limit on satellite
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[06:42:17] <Tom_L> 72�F Hi 75
[06:42:22] <Tom_L> the latter part is nice
[06:42:55] <miss0r> damnit. I can't figure out how to detach this motor from the gearbox.
[06:43:02] <miss0r> I need to get in there and have a look what is up
[06:43:48] <jthornton> is the shaft stuck?
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[06:45:08] <miss0r> jthornton: Its not stuck. but when I turn the shaft by hands I can feel theres something in there thats not supposed to. i.e. pepper mill with only a few peppers left, that once in a while snags
[06:45:34] <miss0r> so, I can get it to get very tight. Tighter than this 180watt motor can turn, anyway
[06:46:29] <jthornton> odd for sure
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[07:07:11] <miss0r> syyl: you around?
[07:07:35] <miss0r> I could've just looked at the list.. he is not :)
[07:19:01] <miss0r> Turns out I just needed to be violent :)
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[07:22:59] <jthornton> got it apart then?
[07:24:06] <miss0r> yep
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[08:28:45] <robotustra> morning
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[09:02:24] <miss0r> almost done refurbishing this biax. not much work needed to be honnest. Replace the brushes, clean out everything (motor included) replace all the hardened up grease. The only time consumer on this particular one is touching up the sliding surfaces in the buisness end.
[09:02:59] <miss0r> syyl: Where were you earlier, when I needed some advice on how to remove the motor from a biax :)
[09:03:16] <syyl> haha
[09:03:21] <syyl> i dont own a biax, you know? :D
[09:03:50] <miss0r> I assumed one of your experience with the finer arts of scraping, would just universally know! :)
[09:04:00] <syyl> i would go all medival on it
[09:04:07] <syyl> remove all screws and hit it until it opens up
[09:04:12] <miss0r> well
[09:04:21] <syyl> thats my usual approach for powertools anyway
[09:04:34] <miss0r> https://www.practicalmachinist.com
[09:04:42] <miss0r> (not my model, a picture from online)
[09:05:12] <miss0r> almost the same. It turns out that the 'shiny' part in the middle is a huge retainer nut. I assumed that it was, but was afraid of excerting too much force on it.
[09:05:21] <miss0r> I ended up using a 1meter wrench. Then it came loose :D
[09:05:36] * miss0r has his heart in his throat at the time
[09:05:52] <syyl> heh, perfect
[09:05:56] <syyl> didnt know that
[09:06:40] <miss0r> Me neither. But looking at the few pictures I could find of it online, where it was taken apart, that was the only thing that made sense
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[09:07:18] <miss0r> I am a bit dissapointed in you, for not knowing, though ;)
[09:07:28] <syyl> ;)
[09:07:35] <syyl> thats ok
[09:07:41] <syyl> i am just your average hack
[09:08:28] <miss0r> oh, by the way. I was at a large machine shop earlier today. They had your picture on the wall, with a text "Good, is not good enough". hehe. I spoke to a guy about it, and he asked me to say hello ;)
[09:08:48] <syyl> good sense of humor
[09:09:03] <syyl> we both know there would be a photo of tom lipton ;)
[09:09:19] <miss0r> that would be fitting :)
[09:09:35] <miss0r> apparently your main danish fan base is located at that machine shop.
[09:09:42] <syyl> Oo
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[09:09:59] <syyl> thats weird
[09:10:00] <syyl> :D
[09:10:10] <miss0r> well, they have to be *somewhere* I guess :)
[09:10:25] <syyl> most people are more like
[09:10:31] <syyl> "i hope i shuts the f up soon.."
[09:10:34] <syyl> ;)
[09:10:53] <miss0r> hehe
[09:11:41] <miss0r> Nice place though. I service their machinery. They range all the way from cutting edge wire EDM to a 1941 gear hobber
[09:11:50] <syyl> very cool
[09:11:58] <syyl> i like shops that have a large range of machines
[09:12:05] <syyl> not just - for example - all 5 axis mills
[09:12:09] <miss0r> yeah, they do. but they *ONLY* make gears
[09:12:22] <miss0r> and alot of them :)
[09:12:32] <syyl> :)
[09:12:58] <miss0r> This month they have to send out 1800units, if I remember correctly. and they are only like 15 people
[09:13:11] <miss0r> plus a handfull working the office
[09:13:25] <syyl> nice
[09:13:26] <syyl> :)
[09:13:56] <miss0r> I guess. I would hang myself if I had to more than 100 parts of something
[09:14:04] <miss0r> I like doing oneoffs
[09:14:15] <syyl> i love small runs
[09:14:18] <syyl> 1-10 parts
[09:14:26] <miss0r> Indeed
[09:14:33] <syyl> but i have done my fair share of large runs - 1000...10000
[09:14:49] <miss0r> I don't mind having just enough parts of one kind to do, that it makes sense to optimise the process. more than that.. no thanks
[09:15:00] <miss0r> damn.. I would fall asleep on the job
[09:15:15] <syyl> thats why we have cnc ;)
[09:15:43] <miss0r> sure... but some poor SOB still needs to attend it.
[09:15:54] <miss0r> unless you have a robot to do that for'ya
[09:16:07] <miss0r> Not exactly my shop standard :D
[09:16:19] <syyl> generally that sob is myself
[09:16:20] <syyl> ;)
[09:16:42] <syyl> at work, i do all myself - cad/cam, stock prep, machining, inspection
[09:16:43] <syyl> ...
[09:17:13] <miss0r> well.. that is better. At the shop I was at today, theres a guy, sitting ALL DAY looking into a cnc lathe
[09:17:29] <miss0r> He inserts a workpiece, presses run and waits to be able to extract it.
[09:17:33] <miss0r> that is _all_ he does
[09:17:44] <syyl> yeah
[09:17:45] <gregcnc> did you ask him what he'd rather be doing?
[09:17:47] <syyl> not my cup of tea
[09:17:52] <miss0r> nor me
[09:18:09] <syyl> i know a lot of people that dont mind that kind of work
[09:18:11] <miss0r> gregcnc: I didn't. He was reading a book, so I didn't want to interrups.
[09:18:26] <gregcnc> some people are happy with that
[09:18:27] <miss0r> Yeah. He probally liked it - I'm just saying: its not for me
[09:18:33] <syyl> i would hang myself
[09:18:59] <miss0r> get your own phrase; "drown myself" is still free ;)
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[09:20:17] <gregcnc> short runs are fun if you can make money
[09:20:24] <miss0r> almost done handstoning this sliding surface... in hindsight, I would've saved some time, had I put it in the surface grinder.
[09:21:30] <miss0r> gregcnc: Sure. That is what I am always hoping to get here. But 80% of what I do is repairing machinery. (I don't mind that either) :)
[09:22:05] <robotustra> miss0r, handstoning for deburring?
[09:22:39] <miss0r> robotustra: I'm taking out a little wear in the surface here. not realy deburring
[09:23:17] <robotustra> is it precise machine?
[09:24:13] <miss0r> robotustra: not exactly. Its the two small sliding surfaces, the sledge tracks back and forth on, on an old biax scraper
[09:24:40] <syyl> one offs that you can make money off are fun, gregcnc :D
[09:25:48] <robotustra> miss0r, do you do scraping too?
[09:26:13] <miss0r> robotustra: I do hand scraping. I just bought this biax. So I have no clue about it.
[09:26:49] <gregcnc> syyl, sure, I do that. It's not as fun when the parts challenge the limits of your equipment
[09:26:58] <robotustra> I also did hand scraping, and grinder scraping as well
[09:27:27] <miss0r> robotustra: grinder scraping? making odd patterns with a die grinder?
[09:27:45] <syyl> reworking hardened ways with a die grinder?
[09:27:53] <syyl> i have seen that a few times
[09:27:54] <robotustra> no, just regular disk
[09:28:05] <syyl> seems to work ok
[09:28:11] <robotustra> slight toches
[09:28:17] <robotustra> touches*
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[09:29:06] <miss0r> syyl: Speaking of one offs: first picture) what the client presented me with. second and third picture) What I handed him when he got here, as a joke. Rest) what I actualy made
[09:29:29] <miss0r> I just like joking about with clients that hand over drawings like that
[09:29:30] <robotustra> https://imgur.com after grinder scraping and before hand scraping
[09:31:25] <miss0r> I guess that looks alright.
[09:31:44] <robotustra> yep
[09:31:51] <miss0r> the way you do it there; could you not easily have replaced that first step with a surface grinder? and just handscraped it from there?
[09:32:20] <robotustra> I don't have any surface grinder :)
[09:32:42] <miss0r> but assuming you had?
[09:32:49] <robotustra> never
[09:33:00] <robotustra> never had before
[09:33:48] <robotustra> if I had a surface grinder I would never do hand scraping
[09:33:58] <miss0r> o.^
[09:34:07] <miss0r> No need for stuff to be realy flat?
[09:34:46] <gregcnc> syyl i was happy to see RR's last post. I was thinking that would be the ideal way to achieve what he wanted with that plate
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[09:35:41] <robotustra> well, after I did some hand scraping, I can say that I can do really flat surface if I need one
[09:35:52] <robotustra> it was good experience
[09:36:29] <robotustra> I can do even metal mirrors now
[09:36:46] <syyl> i ground yesterday everything that i can reach on the schaublin parts :D
[09:36:49] <syyl> http://gtwr.de
[09:37:10] <miss0r> :] and flakes it afterwards?
[09:37:16] <robotustra> https://imgur.com
[09:37:27] <syyl> no, i scraped it properly to 30..35ppi
[09:37:41] <syyl> http://gtwr.de
[09:37:55] <miss0r> syyl: good man :) It looks good
[09:37:56] <syyl> http://gtwr.de
[09:38:00] <miss0r> robotustra: What am I looking at? :S
[09:38:00] <robotustra> dovetail of 50 degree?
[09:38:15] <syyl> its 50° yes
[09:38:24] <robotustra> semifinished metal mirror with a lot of scratches
[09:38:40] <robotustra> I was lazy to finish it
[09:39:12] <robotustra> I thought that angle is about 55
[09:39:17] <robotustra> or it depends?
[09:40:17] <syyl> depends on the manufacturer
[09:40:20] <syyl> schaublin has 50°
[09:40:32] <syyl> at least on the 70 and 102 lathes
[09:40:51] <syyl> most chinese machines i encountered are 60°
[09:41:09] <robotustra> syyl, did you make hand scraping of the base?
[09:41:26] <syyl> naa, all powerscraped
[09:41:42] <robotustra> russians are 55°
[09:42:31] <robotustra> scraping pattern looks very nice
[09:42:36] <syyl> thanks
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[09:46:49] <robotustra> ok, I go back to my gui design https://imgur.com
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[09:48:05] <gregcnc> what kind of lathe are you working on?
[09:48:37] <robotustra> my own design
[09:48:52] <gregcnc> oh that's right
[09:49:05] <robotustra> https://imgur.com
[09:49:30] <robotustra> https://imgur.com
[09:49:47] <robotustra> https://imgur.com
[09:50:11] <robotustra> https://imgur.com
[09:50:48] <gregcnc> what will spindle speed be with that much reduction?
[09:51:16] <robotustra> 0-24000
[09:51:28] <robotustra> I reduce 8 times
[09:51:54] <gregcnc> i can hear the belts from here
[09:52:22] <robotustra> I'll see
[09:52:29] <gregcnc> 24,000? china spindle or something else
[09:52:35] <robotustra> yes
[09:52:56] <gregcnc> so starting at something like 6-8krpm min
[09:52:57] <robotustra> I don't think I'll run it at this rpms
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[11:47:01] <miss0r> JT-Shop: The package got here in one piece. Thanks :)
[11:49:26] <JT-Shop> yippie
[11:49:35] <JT-Shop> enjoy
[11:52:27] <miss0r> JT-Shop: A quick question if you have a second:
[11:52:39] <miss0r> How much current can the outputs handle?
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[11:56:33] <JT-Shop> dunno, I'd have to look it up in the manual
[11:57:37] <miss0r> never mind :) I'll do that myself ;)
[11:57:47] <miss0r> Back into the house
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[11:58:08] <fragalot> 'sup
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[12:06:36] <Deejay> re
[12:07:35] <pink_vampire> hi
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[12:55:46] <hazzy-dev> JT-Shop: Your very own Billy Long does the auction chant in congress xD: https://youtu.be
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[13:07:43] <JT-Shop> hazzy-dev: I'm out of bandwidth lol
[13:08:10] <fragalot> JT-Shop: are you, or is your provider simply throttling because they can?
[13:08:45] <JT-Shop> satellite
[13:09:15] <fragalot> so both? :D
[13:10:01] <JT-Shop> I have a 10GB plan when I exceed that then they throttle me down to a crawl lol
[13:11:11] <miss0r|office2> fragalot: I got the scraper
[13:11:32] <fragalot> miss0r|office2: have you tried it yet? :D
[13:11:39] <miss0r|office2> yeah.. it didn't realy work :)
[13:11:50] <miss0r|office2> I replaced the brushes
[13:11:54] <fragalot> did you try it after replacing that brush I told you abt?
[13:12:00] <miss0r|office2> and it wouldn't quite turn
[13:12:26] <miss0r|office2> So, I took it apart, cleaned, greases everything
[13:12:32] <miss0r|office2> then it worked some... :)
[13:12:44] <miss0r|office2> turns out there were gulling on one of the sliding surfaces up front
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[13:12:56] <fragalot> ouch
[13:12:58] <miss0r|office2> So, I stoned them nice and flat & ajusted them again
[13:13:06] <miss0r|office2> so, NOW it would seem it is working
[13:13:07] <miss0r|office2> :)
[13:13:21] <fragalot> sweet
[13:14:11] <miss0r|office2> the package I sent you has, apparently, left Denmark. But not been scanned in Belgium yet... so I've had GLS look into it...
[13:14:27] <fragalot> I'm sure it will turn up eventually
[13:14:37] * fragalot has not had very good experiences with shipments in general lately
[13:14:44] <miss0r|office2> In a landfill, build with unclaimed shipments
[13:14:50] <miss0r|office2> Me neither
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[13:16:35] <fragalot> wondering if the spares for it have shipped yet
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[13:18:57] <miss0r|office2> does it even matter ? :) We both know this parcel will take a tour of europe before turning up in sweden, with your luck that is
[13:20:01] <fragalot> :D
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[13:33:10] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com do they make one for nuts?
[13:34:14] <pink_vampire> CaptHindsight: amazing!
[13:34:50] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: reminds me of a towel tool for woodworking
[13:34:58] <CaptHindsight> what if you only have 25-100mm axial clearance at the end of the thread?
[13:35:09] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: 100mm == right angle head
[13:35:17] <fragalot> 25mm = smaller right angle head
[13:35:40] <CaptHindsight> yeah, where's the right angle cutter?
[13:35:56] <fragalot> it's a 1/4" hex
[13:36:01] <CaptHindsight> I never strip threads that are easy to repair
[13:36:02] <fragalot> plenty of square angle heads for drill sout there
[13:36:34] <CaptHindsight> they are usually out of sight where you can only feel them with your finger tips
[13:37:00] <fragalot> out of sight, out of mind. stop worrying :)
[13:37:27] <CaptHindsight> true, any bolts i can't reach i don't bother tightening anyway
[13:37:57] <CaptHindsight> why cars use spare bolts and nuts
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[13:53:50] <pink_vampire> the servo belt drive design is finished
[13:55:10] <gloops> post pic for expert critique
[13:55:28] <pink_vampire> i have 4 screws to add to the assambly
[13:55:58] <fragalot> no time
[13:56:00] <fragalot> post pics first
[13:56:01] <fragalot> :D
[13:56:10] <miss0r|office2> hehe
[13:58:51] <pink_vampire> DONE!
[13:59:48] <pink_vampire> saving take too much time...
[14:01:57] <pink_vampire> nice!!
[14:02:46] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com
[14:04:28] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com
[14:04:47] <pink_vampire> gloops: fragalot miss0r XXCoder
[14:04:53] <pink_vampire> Wolf_:
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[14:08:49] <gloops> looks fine
[14:09:09] <gloops> im am curious though - why not have the motor mounted on the same plate as the pulley
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[14:11:16] <gloops> also - belt tensioning?
[14:16:56] <gregcnc> Red is g10?
[14:17:42] <pink_vampire> gloops: the motor have some bump on it, and i had some adapter plate from the conversion kit, that make the motor flash
[14:20:38] <Tom_L> i see no adjustment
[14:21:16] <gloops> how do you get the belt over the motor pulley?
[14:21:28] <pink_vampire> Tom_L: look closely
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[14:22:25] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com
[14:22:31] <pink_vampire> the motor bump
[14:22:57] <Tom_L> just a normal mount
[14:22:57] <pink_vampire> Tom_L: there is mini plates that act as washers
[14:23:24] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com
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[14:24:59] <pink_vampire> the washer plate https://i.imgur.com
[14:26:16] <gloops> very good, just checking
[14:26:21] <pink_vampire> gloops: you tare the 4 top screws out, and you get full access to the pulley
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[14:27:52] <pink_vampire> I have to go get something to support my body
[14:27:55] <gloops> well, suppose it depends on the machine, i didnt want the motors sticking out the end of the machine, i mounted them to run with the ballscrews, with only the pulleys on the outside
[14:28:23] <pink_vampire> it is a spindle
[14:31:28] <gloops> https://hotbottles.files.wordpress.com
[14:32:29] <pink_vampire> there is mo way you can do that
[14:32:40] <pink_vampire> the Z axis rails in on the back
[14:33:26] <fragalot> should have gotten a hollow servo spindle
[14:33:27] * fragalot nods
[14:33:52] <pink_vampire> the full head https://i.imgur.com
[14:33:52] <miss0r> You still can?
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[14:33:58] <gloops> pink_vampire that explains it then
[14:34:17] <fragalot> pink_vampire: it 'l work great :)
[14:34:39] <fragalot> don't forget to make a nice belt cover so your hair doesn't get caught in it
[14:35:02] <pink_vampire> black acrylic or something..
[14:35:21] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[14:35:24] <Tom_L> tin
[14:35:36] <pink_vampire> yeah..
[14:35:43] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[14:35:43] <pink_vampire> also an option
[14:35:49] <gloops> or wood
[14:36:02] <miss0r> i'm thinking leopard print
[14:36:13] <fragalot> Tom_L: jesus what did you do to scratch that up that badly? :D
[14:36:26] <Tom_L> sander
[14:36:49] <pink_vampire> I will just cover it with some duct tape and call it good enough
[14:37:01] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[14:37:02] <gregcnc> #9 road gravel belt?
[14:37:05] <Tom_L> it's all pretty now
[14:37:12] <Tom_L> 36 iirc :D
[14:37:27] <gloops> my walker turner has a wood pulley cover, all curved and domed - very noce
[14:37:29] <fragalot> :P
[14:37:30] <gloops> nice
[14:41:20] <miss0r> fragalot: I think the box you send me is so nice, i will use it to store the biax in :)
[14:41:48] <fragalot> miss0r: I did consider making proper cut-outs for it & adding hinges :P
[14:41:49] <miss0r> You could've added some hinges to it - saving me the trouble
[14:42:33] <miss0r> sadly, the box I sent you is not quite as nice.. but again - it was cut with a jigsaw.
[14:42:39] <miss0r> But I did use glue.
[14:42:56] <fragalot> :D
[14:44:01] <miss0r> the one you made was clearly cut with a table saw
[14:44:15] <fragalot> even so the cuts weren't very straight
[14:44:30] <fragalot> I think my jigsaw is more accurate than the table saw is
[14:44:35] <fragalot> (and i'm not joking)
[14:45:07] <fragalot> also, a bit of history
[14:45:19] <fragalot> the box is made out of schaublin ramp part s:D
[14:45:22] <miss0r> if I found a table saw at the side of the road, that fell of a speeding truck.. and was run over by another truck afterwards, it would still be more straight than my jigsaw
[14:45:36] <miss0r> Priceless artifact :)
[14:45:37] <fragalot> good news! I have exactly that as a spare in my attic
[14:46:00] <fragalot> got it from aldi 6 years ago
[14:46:04] <miss0r> what ? a craptacular table saw?
[14:46:20] <fragalot> yea
[14:46:23] <miss0r> hehe
[14:46:32] <fragalot> never got the blade to stop wobbling
[14:46:35] <fragalot> so i bought a bosch
[14:46:40] <fragalot> which has a worse wobble
[14:46:52] <miss0r> When we moved into this house, there were alot of tools left by the previous owners. amongst other things; A _VERY_NICE_ home made tablesaw
[14:46:53] <fragalot> and an embossed table that they flattened with a handheld belt sander
[14:46:57] <miss0r> I gave it to my neighbor.
[14:47:12] <miss0r> hehe
[14:47:19] <miss0r> You gotta love mass produced crap
[14:47:22] <fragalot> (P.S. if you want a really nice jigsaw, bosch GST 160 CE is a FANTASTIC one)
[14:47:45] <fragalot> really opened my eyes compared to any previous one I've owned/used
[14:47:46] <miss0r> Theres alot of tools on my list, before I get to a tablesaw. Neither of which I have room to fit in
[14:48:21] <fragalot> I'm actually debating whether it's worth keeping the table saw
[14:48:28] <miss0r> also, I forgot to mention, I replaced the rear bearing in the motor on the biax.
[14:48:33] <fragalot> because i've got a track saw & precision dogs in my workbench
[14:48:45] <miss0r> b..but.. How will you send me nice crates from now on, if you let it go ? :D
[14:48:52] <fragalot> tracksaw, I just said :D
[14:48:58] <miss0r> yeah - I was typing
[14:49:17] <syyl> tracksaw <3
[14:49:29] <miss0r> if I want to cut something realy straight, I typically let someone else do it
[14:49:45] <fragalot> syyl: they're really nice when combined with a workbench that you've attacked with a parf dog system :D
[14:49:53] <syyl> good idea
[14:49:57] <syyl> i have the festool one
[14:50:10] <syyl> i think mine cut more aluminium and plastic than wood in its life
[14:50:20] <fragalot> I've got the big dewalt because it was easier to find replacement blades
[14:50:22] <fragalot> haha
[14:50:35] <syyl> :D
[14:50:42] <fragalot> also, the dewalt works great for trimming the bottom off of doors without having to take the door off
[14:50:48] <syyl> dewalt is not very common here
[14:50:59] <syyl> not many stores stock them
[14:51:09] <miss0r> funny... so Germany is bosch land?
[14:51:11] <fragalot> that's the nice thing about the dewalt
[14:51:14] <syyl> we see tons of makita, obviously bosch and festool
[14:51:18] <fragalot> it uses /STANDARD/ sized bladezs
[14:51:26] * fragalot blankly stares at his z
[14:51:33] <miss0r> Here in Denmark, you can get DeWalt in every corner shop basically
[14:51:50] <syyl> thats makita here
[14:51:55] <syyl> or bosch green
[14:52:20] <miss0r> I bought a Dewalt DCD791 cordless drill. Man I love that brushless motor it has
[14:52:28] <fragalot> you can't find anything other than black&decker, bosch green, or that crappy yellow brand that's now rebranded as green or grey
[14:52:30] <miss0r> It is almost as good as the hilti I used to have
[14:52:51] <syyl> ha, we have hilti cordless at work
[14:52:56] <fragalot> if you want a quality tool you need to go to a professional reseller and get told they won't sell because you have no VAT number
[14:52:59] <syyl> they will spin you round when the drill gets stuck :D
[14:53:04] <miss0r> yeah
[14:53:15] <fragalot> syyl: hehe yeah
[14:53:23] <miss0r> I had a 22volt hilti 'something' cordless drill. That was a beast.
[14:53:34] <miss0r> But I've realy come to like this dewalt, mainly because it is so compact
[14:53:35] <fragalot> I've actually broken the 36V blue bosch drills a few times because they're too torquey
[14:53:38] <syyl> for at home
[14:53:44] <syyl> i got rid of all the big cordless :D
[14:53:52] <syyl> i have two of those tiny 7,2V ones
[14:54:06] <syyl> and they do everything around the house that i want them to
[14:54:10] <miss0r> anything below 15volts are childrens toys
[14:54:15] <miss0r> :)
[14:54:16] <fragalot> lol
[14:54:22] <fragalot> you'd be surprised actually, miss0r
[14:54:35] <miss0r> Yeah, I know. cordless drills have come a long way the past decade
[14:54:40] <fragalot> the 12V dewalts are super nice if you need to work overhead all day long
[14:54:42] <syyl> oh sorry its 10,8
[14:54:49] <syyl> not 7,2 :D
[14:54:56] <miss0r> syyl: sorry, you still don't pass the bar
[14:55:06] <syyl> https://www.amazon.de
[14:55:10] <syyl> that one
[14:55:20] <syyl> i dont need more cordless drill in my life :D
[14:55:20] <fragalot> we get through about 2 of those a year at work
[14:55:29] <syyl> do you mix concrete with them?!
[14:55:44] <miss0r> I bought this one: https://www.prishammeren.dk
[14:55:54] <fragalot> they're maily abused to drill stainless, but the operator's wrists can't handle a proper sized one
[14:56:02] <syyl> :D
[14:56:31] <fragalot> the main workhorses are beefy bruschless makita's
[14:56:40] <miss0r> syyl: of course! you need a cordless drill that can handle the occasional concrete mix. (not joking) :)
[14:56:40] <fragalot> which last about 2 years :P
[14:56:52] <syyl> i have corded drills to abuse for that ;)
[14:57:07] <syyl> absolutely want a mag drill
[14:57:14] <syyl> even as i dont have real use for it
[14:57:20] <syyl> i dont do any heavy fab work..
[14:57:26] <fragalot> syyl: go one further and make a mag EDM like miss0r
[14:57:28] <miss0r> The hilti I used to have; when you "pulled the trigger" the machine would twist in your wrist. Even when you knew it would try, you could not hold it still(drilling air)
[14:58:18] <fragalot> miss0r: that's what you get for using obsolete tools that have poor speed control
[14:58:24] <miss0r> I've actualy once been thrown from a ladder, trying to drill a 110mm hole in a wooden ceiling for a ventilation hole
[14:58:32] <miss0r> a 110mm cup drill, catching :D
[14:58:52] <miss0r> Not my proudest moment.
[14:59:02] <fragalot> i've had something similar happen drilling a 60mm through-hole through a 40cm thick oak beam
[14:59:18] <fragalot> except I stayed on & the drill chuck exploded and the body split in half
[14:59:23] <fragalot> ._.
[14:59:37] <miss0r> :D
[15:00:37] <fragalot> so anyway
[15:00:39] <miss0r> luckily for me it was only a 5 step ladder(the looking like an A, where the horisontal line is a chain/strap). I almost did half a turn before letting go of the machine, and falling down
[15:00:42] <fragalot> workbenches: http://www.leevalley.com
[15:00:50] <fragalot> that combined with a track saw is quite neat.
[15:00:57] <fragalot> far more accurate than my table saw too
[15:01:36] <miss0r> well, I basically frown upon doing wood work inside the shop
[15:01:43] <miss0r> That dust just gets everywhere!
[15:01:50] <fragalot> yup
[15:01:57] <miss0r> its like cast iron, only not as black.
[15:02:04] <miss0r> but it floats more!
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[15:02:22] <fragalot> oh but it does get black
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[15:02:34] <miss0r> all in good time
[15:03:13] <fragalot> but yea, even with good dust extraction & a good air filter running, it still covers everything
[15:03:30] <fragalot> and oily machine surfaces make for great dust magnets.. probably doing a better job than the purpose built air filters
[15:03:51] <miss0r> We should sell old clapped out mills for wood shops
[15:04:05] <miss0r> "once covered in 3mm of dust, replace"
[15:04:19] <miss0r> air quality will improve everywhere
[15:04:27] <fragalot> :D
[15:05:12] <miss0r> On other news: Tomorrow, the only components still missing from my cnc retrofit, will be the keyboard & the db50 breakout boards
[15:05:30] <miss0r> Finally I can start building
[15:06:04] <fragalot> still not found a suitable keyboard then?
[15:06:15] <miss0r> Well, I have. but not one that I am willing to pay for
[15:06:22] <miss0r> This project is pricy enough as is
[15:06:40] <miss0r> I might end up going for the rubber one
[15:06:55] <miss0r> (even if it does bring me great pain)
[15:07:07] <miss0r> But to be honnest - I'm not realy sure I'm even going to add a keyboard
[15:07:31] <miss0r> I have a touch screen. and should need be, I will also have an external IP67 USB port
[15:07:50] <miss0r> so I can, temporarily, attach one
[15:08:07] <fragalot> https://www.amazon.de <== we use these on the 19" racks in production
[15:08:27] <fragalot> they're not waterproof, but they don't seem to be bothered by grinding dust
[15:08:38] <miss0r> what about chips? it looks like stuff could get in there
[15:08:46] <fragalot> probably
[15:08:53] <miss0r> and for that price, I could get a cheaper stainless one
[15:08:56] <fragalot> :P
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[15:09:29] * fragalot has a super tiny wireless 'Trust' keyboard he uses for his TV with a trackbal
[15:09:33] <miss0r> let me rephrase: for that price I could get a 'low quality' stainless one
[15:09:36] <fragalot> came with a little silicone cover for it too
[15:09:59] <miss0r> I don't want to know, why you would want 'splash protection' on your TV remote...
[15:10:07] <fragalot> dust cover
[15:10:11] <miss0r> right.
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[15:19:28] <XXCoder> ip89 screens
[15:19:35] <XXCoder> *67
[15:19:53] <fragalot> 65 would suffice
[15:20:00] <fragalot> I doubt miss0r is going to pressure wash it
[15:20:07] <XXCoder> outside machinist communty, asking for splashproof screens would be concerning lol
[15:20:17] <XXCoder> thats still max water resistance. :) 5 would be dust
[15:20:19] <fragalot> common in industry :)
[15:20:24] <fragalot> no
[15:20:35] <fragalot> first number is dust, second is water
[15:20:47] <XXCoder> hmm I recall other way lemme look up
[15:20:54] <fragalot> you recall wrong. :)
[15:21:11] <fragalot> well first number is foreign objects, to be more accurate
[15:21:14] <XXCoder> apparently youre right
[15:21:34] <XXCoder> foreign objects, including bullets and such? ;)
[15:21:50] <fragalot> if said bullet is not travelling at speed, yes
[15:21:52] <Tom_L> as long as they're foreign
[15:22:10] <XXCoder> ah only russia or such bullets then. good for wars
[15:22:24] <XXCoder> kidding aside, interesting
[15:23:17] <miss0r> fragalot: well, it is what I had laying around :)
[15:24:11] <fragalot> what is?
[15:24:11] <XXCoder> apparently max is ip69k which means object can resist jet cleaning
[15:24:16] <miss0r> hell.. its IP69K when the lid is on
[15:24:44] <fragalot> you do know that 69K could be worse than 65 right
[15:24:51] <miss0r> XXCoder: actualy IP69K was a standard added to the IP standard as its own entity by the automotive buisness
[15:25:15] <miss0r> It descripes heated and pressurized water hitting the object from different angles
[15:25:34] <miss0r> fragalot: depends on how you look at it
[15:26:14] <fragalot> miss0r: the issue with 9K is that it specifies only 4 specific angles
[15:26:20] <miss0r> But I must say: I've seen some realy crummy stuff claiming to be IP69k
[15:26:23] <miss0r> yeah
[15:26:23] <Tom_L> http://safeworkplace.org
[15:26:48] <XXCoder> frag page I read says from any angle
[15:27:04] <XXCoder> looks like its not fully "standardized", ip69k
[15:27:05] <fragalot> your page is wrong
[15:27:08] <fragalot> :D
[15:27:18] <Tom_L> https://www.averyweigh-tronix.com
[15:31:52] <XXCoder> The water intrusion tests themselves are done by placing the product on a turntable with a rotational speed of 5 ±1 revolutions per minute. The product is then sprayed at close range at a rate of approximately 4 gallons/16 liters per minute with water pressure of between 1160-1450 psi, at a temperature of 176°F/80°C.
[15:31:58] <miss0r> fragalot: Start stacking up on your favorite programming beverage. You are soon to be helping me:D
[15:32:02] <XXCoder> dont look like "certain angles" to me, but all of em
[15:32:12] <fragalot> miss0r: what needs programming?
[15:32:31] <miss0r> fragalot: linuxcnc.
[15:32:34] <miss0r> :)
[15:32:38] <fragalot> but that's already done
[15:32:44] <fragalot> that's the entire reason we're all here
[15:32:45] <miss0r> you know what I mean...
[15:32:49] <XXCoder> open source and done?
[15:32:52] <XXCoder> nope.
[15:32:55] <miss0r> :)
[15:33:06] <miss0r> fragalot: My main concern is programming the gear change
[15:33:09] <fragalot> gloops knows HAL better than I do :P
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[15:34:04] <miss0r> I bet :)
[15:34:05] <Tom_L> i thought skunkworks posted a comp for that
[15:34:05] <fragalot> XXCoder: the actual test, if you buy the IEC document, specifies 0, 30, 60 and 90° for 30 seconds whilst on a turntable
[15:34:25] <XXCoder> interesting
[15:35:40] <miss0r> tom_L: Where would that be? :)
[15:36:09] <Tom_L> i thought he posted it here a few days ago
[15:36:19] <miss0r> ha.. I must have missed that
[15:36:21] <miss0r> log
[15:36:21] <c-log> miss0r: Today's Log http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[15:36:34] <fragalot> that log needs a search function :P
[15:36:42] <fragalot> which doesn't involve a recursive wget and grep
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[15:37:52] <miss0r> yeah :)
[15:39:32] <gloops> linuxcnc is on a need to know basis for me
[15:39:38] <gloops> i know what i need to know
[15:39:50] <miss0r> what about what I need you to know?
[15:40:04] <gloops> you already know it
[15:40:21] <miss0r> I know little to nothing about anything, sadly
[15:40:23] <Tom_L> it could have been in -devel also
[15:40:49] <miss0r> tom_L: I see some activity from him in the last few days, but I haven't seen anything about a gear changer
[15:41:55] <gloops> i might need #here when i make a rotary axis, tbh i think i could handle it anyway, its just a habit coming here and pestering people for answers
[15:42:41] <fragalot> it helps if you also listen to said answers :-)
[15:43:03] <Tom_L> https://github.com
[15:43:09] <Tom_L> probably part of it
[15:44:09] <Tom_L> http://electronicsam.com
[15:44:10] * fragalot likes the sound of maho's & deckels shifting gears
[15:44:13] <Tom_L> probably the other part :D
[15:44:17] <fragalot> clicketyclackety*clunk*
[15:44:33] <miss0r> :D
[15:44:38] <Tom_L> it _was_ in -devel
[15:44:43] <gloops> fragalot i always listen to you, after ive eliminated every other possible solution
[15:44:51] <fragalot> gloops: xD
[15:44:52] <miss0r> I think some of it is simular. Mine is also equipped with a VFD.. if you dare call a DC drive that
[15:45:04] <fragalot> miss0r: VVD?
[15:45:07] <fragalot> variable voltage drive
[15:45:11] <miss0r> I guess
[15:45:19] <miss0r> well no
[15:45:21] <fragalot> (I have no idea if that's a thing, but it kinda sounds like it could be)
[15:45:23] <miss0r> Its still a three phase
[15:45:31] <miss0r> but DC :)
[15:45:37] <miss0r> like a modern brushless
[15:45:42] <fragalot> so an ESC
[15:45:50] <miss0r> only older :D
[15:45:52] <fragalot> good news, you can just get a hobby one
[15:46:32] <miss0r> hehe, you better submerge it in liquid nitrogen, to give it a fighting chance with this motor :D
[15:46:44] <fragalot> https://hobbyking.com
[15:46:59] <gregcnc> bldc
[15:47:00] <fragalot> 9kW
[15:47:09] <fragalot> let me say that again
[15:47:11] <miss0r> 22kw spindle here
[15:47:13] <fragalot> NINE kilowatts
[15:47:24] <fragalot> for an RC thing
[15:47:32] <miss0r> WTF!
[15:47:34] <miss0r> HOW?!
[15:47:43] <fragalot> nine kilowatts, spinning at 240k rpm
[15:47:45] <fragalot> christ :D
[15:47:51] <miss0r> with those ridiculous thin wires?!
[15:47:54] <miss0r> Something does not add up
[15:49:08] <fragalot> very short leads, typically high temp isolation too
[15:49:26] <miss0r> it better be :)
[15:49:28] <gregcnc> silicone is just flexiable which people like
[15:49:46] <gregcnc> and it doesn't melt when you solder connectors
[15:50:20] <fragalot> gregcnc: because it can withstand a much higher temperature than pvc or rubbers
[15:50:42] <gregcnc> yes
[15:50:53] <miss0r> Only downside is the price tag & the easy faliure of the insulation with a sharp edge
[15:51:12] <gregcnc> price is not an issue
[15:51:29] <fragalot> add braided shielding if abrasion is an issue
[15:52:13] <gregcnc> but there are much better ESC than that
[15:52:23] <fragalot> sure
[15:52:37] <fragalot> you don't go to hobbyking if your main objective is quality
[15:52:39] <miss0r> as much as I would love to stay and chat about ESCs for model use, I need to hit the hay :) See you around
[15:53:01] <gloops> good silicone - sticks like shit
[15:53:59] <gloops> http://www.discount-trade-supplies.com
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[16:00:13] <pink_vampire> https://www.youtube.com
[16:00:26] <pink_vampire> he forgot something,,
[16:05:12] <CaptHindsight> who makes the bigger trunnions? ~1m^3 parts
[16:05:31] <fragalot> hurco?
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[16:07:42] <CaptHindsight> hurco hass, you're on you're own...
[16:11:08] <gregcnc> that's ginormous https://en.dmgmori.com
[16:12:08] <pink_vampire> gregcnc: the apartment look very nice
[16:13:29] <XXCoder> With the new duoBLOCK series, every component becomes a masterpiece.
[16:13:40] <XXCoder> I guess that means price is a masterpiece price also
[16:13:58] <CaptHindsight> priceless :)
[16:14:09] <pink_vampire> did you scroll down to the "Application Examples "
[16:15:06] <XXCoder> pretty nice. seems everyones makes impeller though lol
[16:15:23] <gregcnc> standard 5x part
[16:16:11] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: 1 meter diameter impeller
[16:16:40] <XXCoder> for such a detailed part, the smaller it is the harder
[16:17:00] <pink_vampire> it can be very unique ceiling fan
[16:17:29] <XXCoder> interesting idea thogh I would probably add covers to it also
[16:17:33] <CaptHindsight> https://en.dmgmori.com
[16:17:45] <CaptHindsight> Starting Price $69,995
[16:17:55] <pink_vampire> cheap
[16:18:10] <CaptHindsight> Not available for stand-alone operation.
[16:18:21] <XXCoder> cell only eh?
[16:18:24] <CaptHindsight> so it's only sold as an add-on
[16:19:05] <pink_vampire> 86 here
[16:19:27] <pink_vampire> 30C
[16:20:27] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: did you saw that? https://i.imgur.com
[16:20:30] <XXCoder> CaptHindsight: you were qyoted that?
[16:20:41] <XXCoder> nope, nice!
[16:20:55] <XXCoder> finally figured how to mount em eh
[16:21:05] <pink_vampire> yeah..
[16:21:14] <pink_vampire> i hope it will work..
[16:21:15] <XXCoder> will belt and such assembly be also covered?
[16:21:55] <pink_vampire> maybe the original cover will fit
[16:22:13] <pink_vampire> if not, I will make something from black acrylic
[16:22:40] <XXCoder> cool, though it may be hone use, make ure its osha safe, having a coworker that ripped palm and top of hand scared the shit out of me
[16:23:38] <pink_vampire> worst case scenario https://www.youtube.com
[16:24:08] <XXCoder> ow.
[16:24:27] <XXCoder> covr it anyway, spinninbg belt and gear just arent safe :)
[16:24:55] <CaptHindsight> http://www.troyke.com
[16:25:06] <pink_vampire> I want to see how the servo is work as a spindle
[16:25:15] <pink_vampire> and only then cover it,
[16:25:27] <CaptHindsight> http://www.troyke.com
[16:25:54] <XXCoder> fancy
[16:26:46] <XXCoder> bleh dont feel like going to work
[16:26:51] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: this for machines >$250k
[16:26:51] <XXCoder> yeserday wasnt nice day
[16:27:17] <CaptHindsight> weather here is beautiful today
[16:27:25] <XXCoder> I found out out of 18 parts, only 4 was good. just glad it was previous step
[16:27:36] <CaptHindsight> 68F 60% humidity sun
[16:27:39] <XXCoder> so i ran the only 4 good parts and left rest alone
[16:28:30] <XXCoder> big scrap is pretty dang rare, and I am not happy to find it
[16:29:41] <XXCoder> well laters
[16:30:30] <pink_vampire> what kind of part is that?
[16:31:31] <CaptHindsight> https://int.haascnc.com
[16:31:41] <CaptHindsight> Starting at $48,995.00
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[16:52:38] <CaptHindsight> who makes tiny ring and pinions? 2-3mm wide, fine pitch
[16:53:48] <JT-Shop> model helicopters
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[17:00:11] <JT-Shop> XXCoder: do you work just in time or have batches to process?
[17:00:54] <CaptHindsight> I never checked, how fast can a hobby servo make a complete cycle? end of travel -->opposite end of travel --> back
[17:01:31] <JT-Shop> depends on the servo, is this a different application from the bevel gear?
[17:02:02] <CaptHindsight> fastest available
[17:02:54] <CaptHindsight> just looking at lower cost alternatives to linear servos (voice coil motors)
[17:03:18] <CaptHindsight> short stroke ~1cm
[17:09:33] <Deejay> gn8
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[17:35:39] <gregcnc> capthindsight hobby servo are down to ~.07s for 60°
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[18:06:45] <Tom_L> CaptHindsight, how small? : http://www.amgear.com
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[19:00:02] <_unreal_> Opinion question. When I build the enclosure for my tinkerboard/lcd monitor. I'm going to have a SINGLE umbilical to connect the HEAD unit with the display/computer to the motor/power box with a parallel port cable. (NOT PRINTER PORT JUST THE CABLE FOR SIGNAL) The cable will be carrying the Step/dir and enable signals etc.. the steppers and router and other things.I need to power the displa/computer with 5v. Should I run DC1
[19:00:02] <_unreal_> 2V and put a bec 5v converter in the head unit. or should I run 5v in the line. the cable is 8' long
[19:00:13] <_unreal_> dc12v
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[20:25:26] <pink_vampire> hi
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[21:02:05] <flyback> or use a serial lcd :P
[21:02:09] <flyback> _unreal_,
[21:02:58] <flyback> nm misread that
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[21:32:04] <CaptHindsight> gregcnc: https://hobbyking.com
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[22:15:21] <flyback> Actor Burt Reynolds dies at age 82
[22:15:22] <flyback> FUCK
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[23:00:59] <_unreal_> flyback, I was goig to say.... serial lcd WHAAAA?
[23:26:28] <_unreal_> https://www.amazon.com not sure how much current draw
[23:34:11] <_unreal_> There I finished soldering my power supply for the lcd/computer
[23:36:52] <flyback> don't forget thermal fuses
[23:36:55] * flyback pokes _unreal_
[23:37:06] <flyback> oh wow nice
[23:37:44] <flyback> DON'T FORGET THERMAL FUSES ON STEPPERS ETC
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[23:58:56] <_unreal_> huh?