#linuxcnc | Logs for 2018-09-08

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[00:04:40] <CaptHindsight> crime? in the Seattle area hah
[00:05:00] <XXCoder> I didnt say seattle I said tacoma :P
[00:05:06] <XXCoder> tacoma is crime #1 city in wa
[00:05:09] <CaptHindsight> come to the SW side of Chicago
[00:05:16] <CaptHindsight> still hah crime :)
[00:05:18] <XXCoder> thats not in washington state :P
[00:05:22] <CaptHindsight> \it's all relative
[00:05:29] <XXCoder> not location
[00:05:44] <Wolf_> west bloodymore #1
[00:06:04] <Wolf_> err Baltimore
[00:06:22] <CaptHindsight> all the towns that capitalism forgot
[00:33:13] <Wolf_> could be worse.. we could all be stuck in new jersey
[00:39:38] <XXCoder> went to n bunch of times for interviews
[00:39:42] <XXCoder> didnt get any job lol
[00:39:50] <XXCoder> nj
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[01:29:10] <fragalot> mornin'
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[01:30:41] <XXCoder> yo
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[01:46:37] <XXCoder> coool https://youtu.be
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[01:52:46] <XXCoder> interesting video!
[01:53:16] <XXCoder> channel captions too which is awesome
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[02:32:32] <veek> http://pix.toile-libre.org i was thinking of making some metallurgy videos with that handwriting .. similar to khanacademy.. would that be tolerated
[02:32:45] <veek> any ideas on making it more interesting
[02:33:42] <veek> i need some way to illustrate points
[02:33:51] <XXCoder> its almost as bad as my handwriting
[02:35:47] <veek> but it's difficult to use a drawing pad..
[02:41:27] <XXCoder> if you want handwriting theres couple of tricks
[02:41:27] <XXCoder> put actual paper on your pad, write on it. it should make your writing closer to your normal
[02:41:27] <XXCoder> it dont work for some kinds of drawing pads but some it does.
[02:42:07] <veek> ah oo yeah magnetism - thanks lemme try
[02:42:38] <veek> oh hmm .. won't work on mine
[02:42:43] <XXCoder> drat oh well
[02:42:46] <veek> it's not pressure sensitive
[02:43:18] <XXCoder> my neice has one that detects 256 levels of pressure and could detect pen before it touches surface
[02:43:20] <veek> what i want is an OCR interface to translate
[02:45:50] <XXCoder> unfortunately I dont know any decent ocr thats not million bucks
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[03:03:03] <Deejay> moin
[03:03:15] <XXCoder> hey Deejay
[03:03:32] <XXCoder> it seems ich died recently, or someone using his account says sp
[03:03:41] <XXCoder> supposely ich's grandson
[03:04:48] * Deejay is skeptical about that
[03:05:02] <XXCoder> sealive is registered nick so dunno
[03:05:08] <Deejay> he was the same bad grammar ;)
[03:05:14] <Deejay> *has
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[03:05:21] <XXCoder> why would he fake his death
[03:05:29] <Deejay> dunno
[03:05:43] <XXCoder> theres certainly no freenode life insurance
[03:05:56] <Deejay> haha
[03:06:03] <XXCoder> anyway all his videos is gone also
[03:06:12] <XXCoder> and all other accounts
[03:06:19] <Deejay> yo, the 'grandson' deleted them
[03:06:30] <Deejay> at least he said
[03:06:44] <Deejay> would you do so?
[03:06:57] <XXCoder> yes, if will said I had to
[03:07:03] <XXCoder> otherwise not likely.
[03:07:12] <Deejay> hm
[03:08:09] <Deejay> if he died: RIP Ich
[03:08:43] <XXCoder> indeed
[03:12:38] <veek> heh
[03:13:57] <XXCoder> ?
[03:14:28] <XXCoder> ich is or was "old man" in here, been here for years (skipping 2 years he went off as ranger) and have helped countless people here
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[03:50:40] <Deejay> hi pink
[03:51:21] <XXCoder> wb
[03:51:43] <pink_vampire> hi Deejay XXCoder
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[04:30:15] <pink_vampire> https://www.youtube.com
[04:31:50] <XXCoder> looking
[04:32:05] <XXCoder> isnt that video you shared a bit ago?
[04:32:41] <pink_vampire> i don't think so
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[04:34:19] <pink_vampire> I have soo meany stuff to do in my house
[04:34:33] <pink_vampire> it is never end
[04:34:58] <XXCoder> some stuff really is endless lol
[04:45:48] <pink_vampire> what do you mean?
[04:47:39] <pink_vampire> XXCoder:
[04:48:03] <XXCoder> some tasks keeps renewing itself
[04:48:07] <XXCoder> like clothes washing
[04:48:17] <XXCoder> you generate dirty clothes all time so yeah lol
[04:48:57] <pink_vampire> i wish it was just that
[04:51:06] <XXCoder> I guess repairs like paint etc
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[06:00:44] <jthornton> morning
[06:03:15] <XXCoder> hey jt
[06:04:38] <XXCoder> jthornton: was you here when ich's supposely grandson come in and told that ich is dead?
[06:06:57] <jthornton> no
[06:07:20] <XXCoder> apparently he is dead, and all his accounts is closed, and yt videos deleted
[06:09:19] <jthornton> I wonder why his yt videos are deleted, that doesn't make sense
[06:09:30] <XXCoder> capt was there so he asked
[06:09:39] <XXCoder> grandson might reupload it
[06:09:44] <XXCoder> but I dont know
[06:26:11] <miss0r> :o
[06:26:12] <miss0r> Realy?
[06:26:38] <jthornton> finally getting some cooler weather monday
[06:27:08] <miss0r> XXCoder: When was this?
[06:27:25] <XXCoder> today? or yeserday
[06:27:30] <miss0r> jthornton: We have cold weather here already. Almost starting to miss the hot weather
[06:27:37] <XXCoder> I wasnt here by time it happened
[06:27:37] <miss0r> log
[06:27:37] <c-log> miss0r: Today's Log http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[06:28:54] <miss0r> That is sad.
[06:29:15] <miss0r> Well, he was al old man. if he hadn't been, I would question the source
[06:29:34] <XXCoder> yeah I had hard time finding ich's video direct, not channel link. it wasnt up so it was deleted
[06:29:37] <XXCoder> channel is also gone
[06:30:23] <miss0r> Well. It was nice of whomever that guys was to let us know
[06:30:42] <miss0r> the phrasing made me think he was a nephew or something
[06:30:57] <XXCoder> I guess he did die, but same time who knows. I dont think ich is type to fake death
[06:31:14] <miss0r> yeah, I wouldn't think that of him either
[06:31:15] <XXCoder> the grammar and spellings is very much similiar to ich's
[06:31:21] <XXCoder> nobody can fake that
[06:31:26] <miss0r> hehe
[06:31:42] <XXCoder> he named channel magig after all
[06:31:47] <jthornton> deleting accounts sounds like ich did that before he died
[06:32:06] <XXCoder> unless he left logins and such in will
[06:32:17] <miss0r> jthornton: On the log this person states that he did it
[06:32:34] <jthornton> that makes sense
[06:32:35] <miss0r> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81 search for ich
[06:32:40] <miss0r> one of the first hits
[06:33:08] <miss0r> this 'sealive' fellah'
[06:33:54] <jthornton> Lothar the Onkle How Bild al The School CNC HAS DIED Last 16 august
[06:34:02] <miss0r> yeah...
[06:34:15] <miss0r> it does seem a bit sketchy
[06:34:38] <XXCoder> hes somehow worse than ich
[06:34:41] <miss0r> but the scattered upper case letters matches that of ich..
[06:35:02] <Deejay> also the "OFF" at the end
[06:35:11] <Deejay> its pretty the same
[06:35:30] * Deejay is still skeptical about the whole story
[06:35:43] <miss0r> I must admit. something is a bit off
[06:35:44] <MarcelineVQ> people should be archiving mrpete's videos, on the subject
[06:35:50] <MarcelineVQ> he's not getting younger
[06:36:05] <miss0r> but why delete the youtube account ?
[06:36:24] <XXCoder> is there auto channel archiver?
[06:36:59] <miss0r> for youtube you mean?
[06:37:01] <MarcelineVQ> probably, though it would't be too much work to get youtube-dl to do it for you though I'd expect
[06:37:12] <XXCoder> yeah
[06:37:27] <XXCoder> MarcelineVQ: some people upload hundreds of videos
[06:37:28] <miss0r> I'd gladly supply the storage if someone hands me the tools
[06:37:32] <XXCoder> bit hard to download one a time
[06:37:47] <MarcelineVQ> oh no XXCoder, youtube-dl is a cli program
[06:37:58] <miss0r> I think I have a few TB left on the NAS
[06:38:07] <MarcelineVQ> you have plenty of options about how to use it and how many to grab at a time
[06:38:16] <XXCoder> interesting
[06:39:07] <miss0r> you guys think ich left instructions for someone to come here and tell us?
[06:39:30] <XXCoder> likely
[06:39:34] <XXCoder> sealive is registered account
[06:39:46] <XXCoder> he wouldnt be able to get on as sealive without login
[06:39:56] <jthornton> I wish the logger had a search function
[06:40:12] <XXCoder> jthornton: for overall? single page I just use browser search
[06:40:39] <jthornton> yea like .last seen etc
[06:40:47] <miss0r> or write a script to have wget download and search through them for you
[06:41:48] <miss0r> I wouldn't mind asking this 'sealive' a few questions. but I think the best option would be a good english speaking german to do it
[06:41:49] <jthornton> tom uses this one that I wrote https://github.com
[06:42:00] <jthornton> yea
[06:42:30] <miss0r> isn't Loetmichel_ german?
[06:42:40] <miss0r> or perhaps syyl
[06:42:40] <jthornton> yep
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[06:43:36] <jthornton> and Deejay is german I think
[06:43:41] <Deejay> jep
[06:43:46] <syyl> Deejay is a farmer
[06:43:51] <Deejay> german farmer!
[06:43:57] <syyl> ;)
[06:43:58] <miss0r> :]
[06:44:05] * jthornton is a chicken rancher
[06:44:19] * XXCoder is a corprate machinist
[06:44:22] <miss0r> I have him in my log. I seem to remember when people joined / quit they would live a hos adress
[06:44:25] <miss0r> I don't see that
[06:44:36] <Deejay> yesterday, there was a guy 'bmger' in a different channel on a different irc network (euirc.net), the told the same story about ich. but he stated he were a different grandson than sealive
[06:44:56] <Deejay> (and his spelling was that bad, too)
[06:45:03] <Deejay> (even in german ^^)
[06:45:12] <miss0r> it smells a bit fishy to me, honnestly
[06:45:23] <miss0r> we need a german enterogation 101
[06:46:11] <miss0r> I guess IRC has always been nice for its relative privacy.. but stuff like this makes we wish it was more open, so I could get to the bottom of it
[06:48:14] <MarcelineVQ> oh, well, that's easy enough. XXCoder, miss0r you can get a recent version of youtube-dl and just give it youtube-dl -f best -citw -v https://www.youtube.com to download mrpete's entire channel
[06:48:38] <XXCoder> nice, simply dont have space though
[06:49:00] <Deejay> illegal copy of copyright protected material? ;)
[06:49:01] <MarcelineVQ> The videos are quite large though ehe, I​ can show you options to get the smaller quality versions, of course then they're smaller forever
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[06:49:26] <MarcelineVQ> Deejay: prudent archiving of rare material
[06:49:31] <MarcelineVQ> It's free to view in the first place
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[06:49:53] <miss0r> I wonder how much space it would actualy take up
[06:50:00] <MarcelineVQ> A lot.
[06:50:02] <miss0r> I have 2.27TB of free space at the moment
[06:50:25] <miss0r> But I have no clue what it will amount to
[06:50:26] <SpeedEvil> MarcelineVQ: that doesn't technically mean you have the right to download and store it. And it's not free if it's monetised.
[06:50:50] <miss0r> SpeedEvil: We are doing this for the good of mankind.
[06:50:51] <MarcelineVQ> I'm roughly estimating 485gigs of video space, based on the most recent video
[06:51:11] <miss0r> If I decide to download it, it will be locked away until something happens to the channel so it is no longer available
[06:51:14] <SpeedEvil> 640*480 or so may be quite adequate for archiving though.
[06:51:14] <MarcelineVQ> So it's likely more than that.
[06:51:39] <pink_vampire> i think youtube can block you for doing that
[06:51:44] <miss0r> ... I was thinking about upgrading the disks in the nas anyway :)
[06:51:44] <MarcelineVQ> as another estimation 640 would reduce the filesize by 2/3 or so
[06:51:52] <XXCoder> there is so many good channels
[06:52:00] <XXCoder> this tony, myfordboy, clickspring
[06:52:02] <miss0r> yeah. and we all take youtube for granted
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[06:52:05] <miss0r> AVE :D
[06:52:33] <miss0r> but, lets be honnest: for the purpose of archiving, he should only take what is educational
[06:52:40] <XXCoder> AVE ehh
[06:52:42] <pink_vampire> AVE is legendary
[06:53:00] <miss0r> XXCoder: That what me removing ave from the list again :)
[06:53:26] <miss0r> AvE is a modern day poet, but I wouldn't waste too much storage space on it :D
[06:53:41] <MarcelineVQ> the command for 640 archiving would be youtube-dl -f 'bestvideo[height=480]+bestaudio' -citw -v <channel url>
[06:54:30] <miss0r> Archiving should be for anyone; I propose this: someone with more knowledge than me, should set up a vote for what channels to be archived. I will take care of the rest
[06:54:35] <pink_vampire> MarcelineVQ: you need to make youtube to torrent service
[06:54:52] <MarcelineVQ> that exists in a fashion, it's called bitchute
[06:54:59] <MarcelineVQ> but there's not a lot of interesting vids on it yet
[06:55:02] <XXCoder> does youtube-dl download captions?
[06:55:27] <miss0r> I guess you'd need to add that to the download options
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[06:55:29] <MarcelineVQ> I don't know, I've never had to check if it has a way to grab that metadata
[06:55:35] <XXCoder> AVE videos captions is nonsense
[06:55:42] <miss0r> hear hear
[06:55:47] <MarcelineVQ> it seems to
[06:55:50] <XXCoder> he must have weird accent or something
[06:56:10] <MarcelineVQ> https://github.com
[06:56:14] <MarcelineVQ> ^ yes
[06:56:14] <miss0r> MarcelineVQ: What format is it downloading in ?
[06:56:46] <MarcelineVQ> you can choose the format but when you combine different qualities you tend to end up with an mp4 container
[06:56:56] <MarcelineVQ> It's entirely customizable
[06:57:27] <MarcelineVQ> webm and mp4 have been the most common ime
[06:57:34] <miss0r> if I set out to start archiving this stuff, I don't want to have to do it over. :) I want the right one to begin with
[06:58:08] <XXCoder> i'm try and get that in it's got a 16 340 receptacle on the backside of her and we were gonna go with the coin sell but then it didnt last for fuck also the best
[06:58:14] <XXCoder> yeah that totally makes sense
[06:58:14] <MarcelineVQ> I would just use -f best if you want 'the right one', the qualities youtube has varies per vide, and with video age
[06:58:41] <MarcelineVQ> You can query what formats a vid has, but you don't want to be doing that 971 times
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[06:58:54] <miss0r> yeah, no kidding :)
[06:59:12] <miss0r> So is anyone up for constructing a survey, on what to archive?
[06:59:31] <XXCoder> for me I akready listed 3 channels above heh
[06:59:48] <XXCoder> download captions also, its probably .001% the total arcive size
[07:00:59] <miss0r> Yeah. I think I'll "sneak" in a virtual machine on one of the servers in the hosting area, and have that handle the matter :)
[07:01:53] <miss0r> alright. I have to get gone. People have a way of getting me messed up in some social stuff once in a while.
[07:01:56] <miss0r> see you around
[07:02:12] <XXCoder> later
[07:05:26] <XXCoder> watching new clickspring video. man I love it
[07:05:45] <XXCoder> this one is payers only for now
[07:05:49] <pink_vampire> i dont
[07:07:19] <MarcelineVQ> miss0r: top quality all captions is youtube-dl --write-sub --write-auto-sub --all-subs -f best -citw -v <channel url>
[07:09:15] <XXCoder> man! old style soldering
[07:09:21] <XXCoder> ill say nothing more
[07:11:31] <XXCoder> I'm pareon supporters of few channels, all of em is super awesome
[07:14:04] <MarcelineVQ> In unrelated news I'm reasonably sure I ran into a mountain lion an hour ago when investigating some ruckus, didn't feel like getting close enough to the growling to confirm visually
[07:14:53] <XXCoder> nurdrage, kurzgesagt - in a nutshell, isaac arthur, and clickspring
[07:20:40] <SpeedEvil> MarcelineVQ: always carry an appropriate sized series of boxes, to test if it's a lion, cougar, or housecat.
[07:21:05] <XXCoder> even if box is way too small any cat will try to get in
[07:21:40] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com
[07:21:53] <MarcelineVQ> SpeedEvil: this is entirely reasonable, it's rather dark at the moment however
[07:22:11] <MarcelineVQ> So I'd be likely to trip and squish the box into a tray
[07:22:47] <MarcelineVQ> rabbits like trays I think, maybe I can catch a rabbit
[07:26:52] <XXCoder> heh if we had infinitely smooth surfaces it could be easily be a trap
[07:26:58] <XXCoder> no walls nothing falls to cover it
[07:27:03] <XXCoder> simply cant jump
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[09:12:57] <Loetmichel> miss0r: i AM german. but are about 500km from bavaria, where ichs was/is supposed to live... and dejay lives even further away
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[10:15:53] <fragalot> so.. a 1/2" locline may have been a bit large for the schaublin :D
[10:16:08] * fragalot can only crack the ball valve 1/16th of a turn before everything floods
[10:24:05] <fragalot> miss0r: what coolant do you run? (I'd prefer to get a type that won't rust the shite out of an otherwise tidy machine)
[10:25:05] <fragalot> based on what i've just pulled out of the filter, I think the previous owner used to run solid bar soap through it
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[10:40:34] <selroc> log
[10:40:34] <c-log> selroc: Today's Log http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
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[11:50:20] <Tom_L> fragalot, http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
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[13:29:14] <HexaCube> hey folks, I remember being told I should look into stiffening up the frame a bit, what do you folks think now? :P https://i.imgur.com
[13:43:03] <fragalot> HexaCube: do that again for the bottom Y and you've got a winner :D
[13:43:59] <fragalot> Tom_L: is that available in EU? :P
[13:45:25] <HexaCube> fragalot: yes sir! :D
[13:45:59] * fragalot is wondering if he's got a spare clockwork motor lying around he could convert into an oil skimmer
[13:46:10] <HexaCube> I'm still curious if I should think about filling the voids in the extrusions with... something
[13:46:22] <fragalot> HexaCube: I wouldn't bother just yet
[13:46:41] <fragalot> use it as-is first, add damping materials later if needed
[13:46:55] <HexaCube> I'm still curious about what to use though
[13:47:10] <fragalot> sand is a common option
[13:47:37] <HexaCube> also you say dapening, wouldn't using something like, say, concrete also stiffen it up?
[13:48:12] <CaptHindsight> but I'm using these in the corner :) https://images.homedepot-static.com
[13:48:19] <HexaCube> I know about different expansion coefficients, but assuming there isn't a big temperature swing, that could be fine too, no?
[13:50:05] <fragalot> HexaCube: concrete would turn to powder with vibrations over time anyhow
[13:50:17] <HexaCube> hmmm, fair enough
[13:50:31] <HexaCube> i mean from what I've seen, epoxy granite is the shit, but probably waaaaaaaay(!!) overkill :P
[13:50:34] <HexaCube> also expensive
[13:50:56] <HexaCube> the reason i ask is the following
[13:51:33] <HexaCube> I wanna get some larger extrusions for stiffening up the machine bed as you said, like this: https://www.motedis.com
[13:51:39] <HexaCube> that's a biiiig void that could be filled :P
[13:51:48] <fragalot> oh god yea
[13:52:37] <fragalot> if you go the epoxy granite route: should be fun to fill it; if you go the sand route: should be fun keeping it in
[13:52:43] <HexaCube> haha
[13:52:48] <fragalot> if you're going "standard build"... get a better profile
[13:53:05] <HexaCube> well you could probably cap the ends until whatever you fill in hardens
[13:53:09] <HexaCube> or keep the caps on if it doesn't
[13:53:46] <fragalot> can't take the caps off even if it hardens :p
[13:53:55] <CaptHindsight> https://ibin.co
[13:53:59] <HexaCube> why not, fragalot? O_o
[13:54:07] <fragalot> because they'll be stuck
[13:54:16] <HexaCube> hmm, well gotta get the right material for the cap, then :P
[13:54:28] <HexaCube> i mean melamine works for concrete for instance
[13:54:40] <HexaCube> but, I'll do some thinking about that
[13:54:45] <HexaCube> anoooother question
[13:54:55] <fragalot> CaptHindsight's got a nice presentation or book on machine rigidity
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[13:55:23] <HexaCube> i have been thinking about how to properly seat bearings, regarding the tolerances
[13:56:37] <HexaCube> the little engineering booklet I have suggests J, H, F, G tolerances iirc
[13:57:16] <HexaCube> if I want a slight pressfit, would J be appropriate? Like a J7 (+12, -9 µm)
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[14:00:59] <CaptHindsight> http://www.mech.utah.edu
[14:02:55] <CaptHindsight> https://e-reports-ext.llnl.gov
[14:03:57] <CaptHindsight> https://www.hindawi.com
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[14:04:52] <tiwake> CaptHindsight: I'm saving that first one
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[14:09:47] <HexaCube> wow that's really in-depth O_O
[14:15:27] <CaptHindsight> the point is to show you the trade offs and expose you to what really happens
[14:17:25] <HexaCube> i mean i quite honestly would love to do some more math the see wether or not the machine is rigid enoug but there's so many variables I don't know
[14:17:33] <HexaCube> so i'm mostly limited to gut feeling, hehe
[14:17:55] <CaptHindsight> look ~ page 180-ish
[14:18:10] <tiwake> CaptHindsight: I made a folder called "machine design"
[14:18:27] <tiwake> CaptHindsight: is there anything else that should go in there?
[14:19:13] <CaptHindsight> in Principles of Rapid Machine Design by Eberhard Bamberg
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[14:19:50] <CaptHindsight> tiwake: there are lots,
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[15:00:09] <HexaCube> https://i.imgur.com this should hopefully be stiff enough =) https://i.imgur.com
[15:00:15] <HexaCube> oops, double link
[15:00:22] <HexaCube> I might add another plate at the bottom
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[15:01:57] <gloops> Hexacube is this going to sit on a steel frame?
[15:02:49] <HexaCube> gloops: i... honestly don't know where it's going to sit yet
[15:02:56] <HexaCube> I'll probably be making a table for it, too :P
[15:03:11] <HexaCube> or well, an enclosure rather
[15:03:24] <HexaCube> wanna do some dust containment and soundproofing
[15:03:34] <gloops> no triangulation there
[15:04:07] <HexaCube> what do you mean by that?
[15:04:33] <gloops> well, whats keeping the rectangle in square?
[15:04:53] <HexaCube> oh, hmm
[15:05:01] <HexaCube> well the cross bracings should do that, no?
[15:05:38] <HexaCube> I just gotta make sure they're all exactly the same length?
[15:05:50] <gloops> they may, but there is some leverage on them
[15:06:06] <gloops> suppose it depends how much force there is going to be
[15:06:36] <HexaCube> not thaaaat much
[15:06:55] <HexaCube> I wanna do PCBs mostly and occasionally wood and plastic
[15:07:39] <gloops> my router frame weights over 400kg and bolted to the floor and it still shakes
[15:08:04] <HexaCube> heh
[15:08:31] <HexaCube> i don't think you'll be able to make anything that never ever shakes tbh :D
[15:08:42] <HexaCube> even our machines at work vibrate when taking big cuts heh
[15:08:59] <HexaCube> and those weigh 25tons :D
[15:12:45] <gloops> well, if your design does twist, it easily resolved, bolt it to a flat plane or stick some diagonal bracing in
[15:13:25] <HexaCube> right, that's what I meant with "might add a plate at the bottom" :D
[15:13:27] <HexaCube> but thanks!
[15:15:14] <HexaCube> just a few more months of saving up until I can actually start buying parts
[15:15:15] <HexaCube> *sigh*
[15:21:16] <gloops> havent you got a welder?
[15:22:08] <HexaCube> i do, but I can't really weld that well :P
[15:22:35] <gloops> i mean, these extrusions cost money, you find steel laying around and build the framework for next to nothing
[15:22:56] <HexaCube> eh, the extrusions aren't thaaat expensive
[15:23:02] <HexaCube> I can source them quite cheaply in germany
[15:23:04] <gloops> steel is stronger, stiffer, cheaper
[15:23:14] <gloops> and importantly, heavier
[15:23:21] <HexaCube> right, but I really don't think I have the experience for welding a machine frame
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[15:41:56] <Deejay> namd
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[16:05:44] <pink_vampire> HexaCube: look nice
[16:15:47] <XXCoder> HexaCube: make sure its adjustable with feet
[16:16:05] <XXCoder> 3d printers basically dont care about being level to gravity, but mills does
[16:16:22] <Loetmichel> XXCoder: they do???
[16:16:23] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: it's loot like a table top router
[16:16:31] <pink_vampire> look*
[16:16:41] <XXCoder> pink_vampire: I know what his design look like
[16:17:01] <gloops> i cant emphasise enough the need to take inspiration from the great tank designs of the 1940s
[16:17:15] <MarcelineVQ> it worked for warhammer
[16:20:20] <gloops> someone in here MarcelineVQ?
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[16:21:11] <MarcelineVQ> https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net
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[16:21:49] <MarcelineVQ> https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net
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[16:57:26] <pink_vampire> I found something interesting in one of the boxes here..
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[16:58:09] <XXCoder> yeah?
[16:58:37] <Deejay> gn8
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[17:25:46] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: i found my 3d printer head
[17:26:09] <XXCoder> ahh yeah I remember your tests on that
[17:26:34] <pink_vampire> i was fun
[17:27:13] <pink_vampire> but the prints was slow and never as strong as i want them to be
[17:27:29] <XXCoder> it takes bit of work to get it work
[17:27:39] <XXCoder> I never did with my crappy machine. still waiting for better
[17:28:21] <pink_vampire> in the next 20 years or so..
[17:29:03] <CaptHindsight> tiwake: https://www.youtube.com 40 Lectures on Mechanical Engineering
[17:29:05] <pink_vampire> somewhere some time you will get there..
[17:30:16] <XXCoder> obsidian printer is taking a while lol
[17:31:15] <pink_vampire> you have it?
[17:31:45] <XXCoder> not yet they are still testing and designing
[17:33:45] <pink_vampire> they say "$99" printer
[17:34:04] <pink_vampire> but it is without heated bed and LCD
[17:34:10] <XXCoder> cheapest model yes
[17:34:13] <XXCoder> mine isnt
[17:34:38] <CaptHindsight> tiwake: https://ocw.mit.edu
[17:34:57] <pink_vampire> what model you have?
[17:37:24] <pink_vampire> https://www.youtube.com
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[17:37:33] <CaptHindsight> rebuilt my starter 7 years ago (120K miles) now the contacts are almost gone
[17:37:38] <CaptHindsight> cheap copper
[17:39:31] <XXCoder> pink_vampire: max. lol
[17:40:01] <pink_vampire> what is "max"?
[17:40:10] <XXCoder> the top model
[17:40:42] <pink_vampire> of what 3d printer?
[17:40:58] <XXCoder> obsidian
[17:41:11] <pink_vampire> ho. so you all ready have it
[17:41:22] <pink_vampire> already*
[17:41:28] <XXCoder> there is lowest model $99 med and top model. nah they are still designing it
[17:41:34] <XXCoder> they will send me one, evenually
[17:42:15] <pink_vampire> i remember you print some blue parts
[17:42:46] <XXCoder> yeah that was chinese crap one
[17:42:57] <XXCoder> wasnt able to get it to work well
[17:43:04] <pink_vampire> why?
[17:43:23] <XXCoder> I'm not very good on adjusting machine apparently lol
[17:47:11] <pink_vampire> but it you have the printer and you make usable parts with it, i think it's good
[17:47:52] <XXCoder> yeah it was much trouble just making those though
[17:48:05] <XXCoder> I might make plotter out of shit 3d printer parts though.
[17:49:03] <pink_vampire> what was the problems?
[17:50:03] <XXCoder> lots really, extruder didnt properly work, hotend keeps either losing temperate or overheat
[17:51:38] <pink_vampire> "hotend keeps either losing temperate or overheat" - easy to fix
[17:53:19] <pink_vampire> i made an arduino pid temperature controller with 1 transistor
[17:54:10] <XXCoder> my printer has a onboard controller for temperate
[17:54:36] <XXCoder> I replaced temperate sensor it got better but still iffy
[17:55:15] <pink_vampire> what is the printer controller?
[17:55:36] <XXCoder> not too sure on what its name is lol
[17:55:57] <XXCoder> it controls 5 steppers temperate as well as have 2 temperate sensors
[17:56:16] <pink_vampire> ramps?
[17:56:27] <XXCoder> yeah
[17:57:43] <pink_vampire> try to update the firmware version
[17:57:51] <XXCoder> did that also
[17:58:49] <pink_vampire> try to investigate it with arduino and serial
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[18:14:22] <XXCoder> nah not that good with electrics
[18:14:32] <XXCoder> I wanted a machine thats more user friendly
[18:20:03] <pink_vampire> i found my first linux cnc "cuts" with a pen
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[18:35:47] <XXCoder> nice
[18:43:59] <pink_vampire> there is too much stuff here
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[23:35:21] <_unreal_> That was weird, xchat froze on me
[23:35:39] <_unreal_> I couldnt type IF my mouse was over xchat
[23:35:58] <infornography> how do you do the sasl with xchat?
[23:36:00] <XXCoder> weird
[23:36:03] <_unreal_> ? then again I have not rebooted in 42 days
[23:36:05] <XXCoder> maybe xchats afraid of mouse
[23:36:13] <_unreal_> sasl?
[23:36:27] <XXCoder> 20:36:19 up 85 days, 17:05, 1 user, load average: 2.21, 2.03, 2.04
[23:36:30] <Tom_L> http://freenode.net
[23:36:33] <_unreal_> nice
[23:36:52] <_unreal_> my cubox I had an uptime of 437 days once
[23:37:16] <_unreal_> went down when we lost power last year during the hurricain
[23:37:24] <infornography> xchat isnt on there tho
[23:37:44] <_unreal_> ok so I've been working on my main box today
[23:37:49] <XXCoder> yeah, though hardly record, one of teachers I had had one unix pc thats been up so long they lost it
[23:37:50] <_unreal_> got most of the hardware mounted
[23:37:56] <XXCoder> its still running, just can't find it
[23:38:06] <infornography> I didn't see an option for sasl in xchat
[23:38:07] <Tom_L> 22:38:25 up 75 days, 8:54, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[23:38:07] <_unreal_> cant find it?
[23:38:16] <Tom_L> mine must have restarted when the cable guy came
[23:38:17] <XXCoder> it had one of fans die so it was warning on failure so they had to fix it
[23:38:29] <Tom_L> it was over 300
[23:38:31] <XXCoder> but they couldnt find it
[23:38:46] <XXCoder> they evenually found it, it was inside void inside wall
[23:38:56] <_unreal_> ?
[23:39:04] <_unreal_> huh
[23:39:06] <XXCoder> apparently there was revotation couple years before that, and they couldnt move server
[23:39:16] <XXCoder> its uptime was at over 10 years
[23:39:22] <_unreal_> heh
[23:39:30] <Tom_L> infornography use hexchat
[23:39:37] <Tom_L> same basic thing
[23:39:58] <XXCoder> yeah I recommand hexchat also, compitable in most case to xchat stuff
[23:39:59] <Tom_L> same codebase
[23:40:30] <infornography> Yeah Im using hexchat, but Xchat was what was installed on the linuxcnc box, I tryed to come here and kept getting booted
[23:40:38] <_unreal_> so I got all my brackets in the box riveted, got my 3 psu's mounted, 2 36v one 12v
[23:41:07] <_unreal_> got my motor drivers plate done mounted and the 4 motors mounted
[23:41:46] <_unreal_> infornography, booted?
[23:42:01] <_unreal_> were you logged in with a registered nick?
[23:42:03] <infornography> yeah, the server wouldn't let me join
[23:42:14] <_unreal_> oh where you logged in as root?
[23:42:28] <_unreal_> a lot of servers wont let you join if your running a ROOT machine
[23:42:48] <infornography> huh, maybe
[23:50:42] <pink_vampire> irc..
[23:54:32] <pink_vampire> i need ideas for storage solutions for my small space
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[23:56:41] <infornography> what kinda stuff are you storing?
[23:57:20] <pink_vampire> infornography: all tne small stuff that make the shop a mess