#linuxcnc | Logs for 2018-09-09
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[00:05:37] <_unreal_> pink_vampire, I keep a 55 gallon storage organizer for that stuff
[00:05:53] <pink_vampire> LOL
[00:06:00] <XXCoder> pink_vampire: $660 huge tool cart at costco
[00:06:14] <pink_vampire> my spindle pump just DIE!
[00:06:35] <_unreal_> are you asking it to or stating an event?
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[00:07:03] <XXCoder> theres nicer steel wood top tool cart for cheaper $450 something? also costco, only some of em has em so ask around
[00:07:24] <XXCoder> or maye harbor freight. $100 ones work though can feel very cheap
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[00:08:56] <pink_vampire> there is in pink !
[00:08:57] <pink_vampire> https://i5.walmartimages.com
[00:09:05] <infornography> https://www.amazon.com
[00:09:08] <XXCoder> fall part in 2 months
[00:09:28] <XXCoder> info's link is a lot more strudy
[00:10:33] <pink_vampire> infornography: you need somewhere to put them on
[00:10:44] <XXCoder> honestly get a tool cart
[00:10:46] <XXCoder> its worth it
[00:10:47] <infornography> I hang them on the wall
[00:10:59] <XXCoder> get one with lots shallow drawers and few deep ones
[00:11:14] <pink_vampire> i have a cart for the lathe
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[00:12:16] <_unreal_> been wondering where did you come up with the name pink_vampire ?
[00:12:40] <XXCoder> ah now thats saga worthy of gods
[00:13:00] <pink_vampire> _unreal_: XXCoder is the mind behind my nick
[00:13:06] <_unreal_> ?
[00:13:55] <pink_vampire> i had other nick and all the time i show here pink items and nails
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[00:14:27] <pink_vampire> so he called me pink vampire because i was 24/7 here
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[00:14:50] <_unreal_> nifty
[00:14:55] <pink_vampire> so i made it my nick
[00:14:55] <_unreal_> ya I got mine from the GAME
[00:15:32] <_unreal_> 20 years ago when unreal came out. I wanted a copy bad..... went on an irc/warez site and used this nic begging/looking for the game. found someone to burn me a copy...
[00:15:41] <_unreal_> HELL I still have that original copy somwhere :)
[00:15:45] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com
[00:15:53] <pink_vampire> for example
[00:15:55] <XXCoder> mines last nick i had in aol before I managed to get myself banned from aol
[00:15:57] <XXCoder> aol sucks
[00:16:10] <_unreal_> touch probe
[00:16:17] <_unreal_> touch probe IN pink
[00:16:21] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com
[00:16:38] <pink_vampire> _unreal_: correct
[00:17:16] <pink_vampire> and guess what it that https://i.imgur.com
[00:17:30] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com
[00:17:45] <XXCoder> ring of DOOOOOOOOM
[00:18:47] <_unreal_> arg.... I'm starting to suffer from nodding of doom
[00:18:50] <_unreal_> so tired
[00:18:59] <pink_vampire> i'm curious to see if _unreal_ will find why i did it.
[00:19:06] <_unreal_> did what?
[00:19:07] <XXCoder> lol
[00:19:15] <pink_vampire> the led rings
[00:19:29] <pink_vampire> 18 of them
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[00:19:44] <pink_vampire> a hint https://i.imgur.com
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[00:20:06] <_unreal_> christmas stuff?
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[00:20:43] <_unreal_> no idea
[00:20:59] <pink_vampire> https://imgur.com
[00:21:03] <pink_vampire> this is why
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[00:23:13] <pink_vampire> and just about a week ago i did the integration with Linux CNC
[00:23:33] <pink_vampire> (it as design originally for mach3)
[00:25:21] <_unreal_> signal lights?
[00:25:31] <_unreal_> running finished, error?
[00:26:02] <pink_vampire> and 3 more options
[00:26:24] <pink_vampire> and buzzer with melody and beeps
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[00:27:28] <_unreal_> nifty.....
[00:27:53] <_unreal_> I havent gotten that far with my cnc build yet :(
[00:28:17] <pink_vampire> we need to move to discord or something so we can have chat room, and projects room so it will be easy to show stuff and talk
[00:28:25] <Tom_L> no we don't
[00:28:25] <_unreal_> I spend at least 2 hours today out in the garauge using my little drill press with the XY table drilling holes
[00:28:43] <Tom_L> that's what imagebin and youtube are for
[00:29:11] <pink_vampire> but it is not intuitive,
[00:29:44] <Tom_L> if you keep encouraging it you will just wind up with a split
[00:29:55] <Tom_L> happened in another channel and now both are crap
[00:31:00] <Tom_L> i'd encourage you to let it go, i've been at this since the early 90's or before
[00:31:09] <_unreal_> ditto
[00:31:15] <_unreal_> well maybe not that far back
[00:31:56] <_unreal_> I didnt get on IRC till I got my own phone line
[00:32:12] <_unreal_> late 90's
[00:32:30] <Tom_L> prior i was on bbs, source and i forget the other one...
[00:32:41] <Tom_L> compuserv
[00:33:12] <Tom_L> starting at 300 baud :)
[00:33:40] <Tom_L> which was boreing because you can read faster than the txt comes in
[00:35:35] <_unreal_> I'll never forget the OMG when I got my first 56k modem
[00:35:42] <_unreal_> when from a 28.8 to a 56k
[00:36:00] <_unreal_> I mean DAMN.....
[00:36:13] <Tom_L> went from 300 to 1200 to 2400 to 28.8 to 56
[00:36:15] <pink_vampire> but the problem with irc is there is no comfortable way to see what is going on, and you MUST move all the time to other services for posting videos and images, this is for example the "mechanical keyboard server in discord" https://i.imgur.com
[00:36:43] <pink_vampire> everything look soo clear and easy
[00:37:07] <Tom_L> but like xx said, it's on a single server that could go at any time
[00:37:38] <Tom_L> i may not decide to click on everything that comes at me either
[00:37:47] <pink_vampire> also the irc
[00:38:02] <Tom_L> and some here have limited bandwith and may not want all the graphics
[00:38:19] <pink_vampire> and the same as irc you can add bots to discord
[00:38:50] <pink_vampire> you can disable the graphics if you want to
[00:39:22] <pink_vampire> i'm with a 3g phone and it's work fine
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[00:43:21] <pink_vampire> i understand that linux cnc have an irc because it was like that 1 yeas ago, but all the young people are in discord and other services like it, and they use their phones most of the time.
[00:44:13] <_unreal_> thats because to many people toss old stuff for new and never let there kids try the old stuff :( sad
[00:44:31] <pink_vampire> the only reason my computer is on right now is for the IRC
[00:44:58] <Tom_L> winter will come soon enough and you can use it for heat as well then
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[00:45:17] <pink_vampire> _unreal_: i was grow up with irc, and cgi chat rooms
[00:48:30] <pink_vampire> _unreal_: more then 80% of the conversations that i'm doing those days are through whatsapp, the other is with discord.
[00:49:40] <pink_vampire> it took me 0 effort to send a picture in whatsapp, hit the camera icon, click, done,
[00:50:43] <pink_vampire> with irc you need to take the picture, connect the phone with a cable to the computer, copy the image, upload it to imgur, copy the url to the irc.
[00:50:58] <pink_vampire> this is pure waste of time
[00:51:21] <_unreal_> blaaaa Hate whatsapp, my Xwife always calls at the worng time to talke to are daughter and only on the weekend
[00:51:34] <_unreal_> btw the POS lost custody to me
[00:52:10] <_unreal_> heh
[00:52:34] <_unreal_> pink_vampire, you can plug your phone into your computer and treat it like a DRIVE
[00:52:38] <_unreal_> direct access to the image.
[00:53:05] <pink_vampire> i want an camera icon, click done
[00:53:29] <_unreal_> also you can post photos on image page bins with just a console command
[00:53:34] <MarcelineVQ> any phone that can run whatsapp can also upload to your pc wirelessly if you're in range
[00:53:36] <_unreal_> :p
[00:53:53] <MarcelineVQ> *automatically upload
[00:53:54] <XXCoder> wireless. there you go :)
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[00:53:57] <_unreal_> MarcelineVQ, yarp
[00:54:17] <pink_vampire> the "uploading" part is the problem, i don't want to be next to my computer
[00:54:40] <MarcelineVQ> I'd be pretty surprised if there wasn't an app that takes pictures right to an imagesharing service as well and gives you a tinyurl sort of link
[00:55:55] <pink_vampire> MarcelineVQ: the problem with irc is simple. if you lose connection is gone.
[00:56:20] <pink_vampire> and the only way to use it properly is with a computer.
[00:56:52] <_unreal_> pink_vampire, I dont loose anything
[00:57:10] <_unreal_> I close irc/reboot and start it up
[00:57:32] <pink_vampire> _unreal_: it is stupid
[00:57:37] <_unreal_> if I go into rooms I've been in before everything that was posted before I left is still there. not new content but thats besides
[00:57:49] <pink_vampire> why not just to get the old massages??
[00:58:22] <_unreal_> What I'm saying it it keeps an active log
[00:58:30] <pink_vampire> look https://i.imgur.com
[00:58:43] <_unreal_> so if I left the room right now. anything typed after I leave I miss.... but everything I was there for is still on the display in a LOG
[00:59:00] <XXCoder> megapastor :P
[00:59:02] <Tom_L> hexchat retains what you saw last too
[00:59:24] <Tom_L> i keep logs separate from the bot as well
[00:59:28] <XXCoder> theres ways to set bot to stay in channel so when you come in you can read everything thats been said
[00:59:31] <XXCoder> or just use logs
[00:59:37] <pink_vampire> _unreal_: so you need to also make a sticky note when you logout, just to go to the same point in the log?
[01:00:13] <_unreal_> no
[01:00:18] <pink_vampire> so?
[01:00:24] <_unreal_> it just picks up posting from where I left
[01:00:31] <Tom_L> you seem to be the only advocate here for what you are pushing
[01:00:40] <Tom_L> if there was a concesus i might consider it
[01:00:44] <Tom_L> but there isn't
[01:01:48] <_unreal_> irc has worked like this fine for me for the past 20 years
[01:02:24] <pink_vampire> i'm using IRC, skype, discord, whatsapp, and more, and here in the IRC is the most annoying and stupid way and interface. the world become much more efficient and easy
[01:02:56] <pink_vampire> and = to
[01:03:17] <pink_vampire> you can't even edit massages :-(
[01:03:27] <pink_vampire> even skype support it
[01:04:09] <Tom_L> feel free to stop using it
[01:04:17] <Wolf__> the way some of you all go on and on about some subjects, I’m glad I dont bother to log the channel
[01:04:36] <XXCoder> hey the fanged one
[01:04:40] <pink_vampire> i go where the people are
[01:05:02] <Tom_L> accept us where we are then
[01:05:07] <Wolf__> plus, this is real time chat usually, why would you need to edit…
[01:05:38] <pink_vampire> Wolf__: it is just convenient
[01:06:05] <MarcelineVQ> editing just means a person can lie easier, never understood that as a feature, we're not writing books
[01:06:07] <Wolf__> just attempt to think before running mouth.. same as talking in real life lol
[01:06:19] <MarcelineVQ> There's advantages to things like discord but there's also disadvantages, of them the biggest is fragmenting the already small community.
[01:07:17] <_unreal_> cell phones killed ICQ, AOL, msn
[01:07:20] <Wolf__> edit/delete messages/posts in the middle of a dialog is one of the things I hate about facebook
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[01:07:52] <pink_vampire> MarcelineVQ: but most of the young people not even going to open irc any time soon,
[01:07:57] <_unreal_> Wolf__, I wont use FB.....
[01:08:08] <MarcelineVQ> In my experience young people have no problem at all discovering and using irc
[01:08:30] <MarcelineVQ> Though they do tend to put @ on front of names
[01:08:36] <Wolf__> take one sentence out of a conversation can make the whole thing not make sense
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[01:09:39] <_unreal_> sigh.. 1am I'm crashing later
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[01:10:13] <_unreal_> need to get up early if I can to try and start setting up some of the wires
[01:11:19] <XXCoder> later
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[01:35:31] <fragalot> hi
[01:35:58] <pink_vampire> hi fragalot
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[02:25:24] <CaptHindsight> 300 baud over a phone line! When we were kids we had to transfer and share data on printed pages that only came out monthly.
[02:25:39] <fragalot> you had a printer???
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[02:26:02] <CaptHindsight> no, that made it even harder
[02:26:06] <fragalot> :D
[02:27:25] <CaptHindsight> Ocktoberfest here later today, should be interesting
[02:28:56] <CaptHindsight> and IMTS all week
[02:28:57] <fragalot> TIL that automatic transmission fluid mixed with acetone makes for a good penetrating fluid
[02:29:08] <fragalot> I'm going to a mini-ITMS equivalent next month
[02:29:20] <fragalot> still trying to track down "the right machine" for what we do
[02:29:37] <fragalot> which, turns out, is such a niche that there's really only one company that makes them that i've found so far
[02:29:52] <CaptHindsight> fritzenchopin?
[02:30:06] <fragalot> because there's no way we're going to get an 80ton twin column mill with 70kW spindle just to poke holes in electrical cabinets
[02:30:23] <fragalot> which is what most of the manufacturers i've contacted have suggested we do
[02:30:27] <CaptHindsight> laser metal poker
[02:30:39] <fragalot> trumpf said no
[02:30:56] <fragalot> apparently "just cut a hole in your bed so we can fit the cabinet in" made them angry
[02:30:58] <CaptHindsight> are the cabinets already assembled?
[02:31:02] <fragalot> yes
[02:31:16] <fragalot> and their only suggestion was a 5 axis 10kW CO2, prices starting at 800k
[02:31:41] <CaptHindsight> whats the largest cabinets dimm?
[02:32:10] <fragalot> largest panel is 1800x800x20, largest cabinet is 1200x1000x400
[02:32:29] <fragalot> smallest cabinet is 120x120x80
[02:32:55] <CaptHindsight> why can't they just get a used machine and make mods?
[02:33:12] <CaptHindsight> tax issues?
[02:33:22] <fragalot> tax issues.
[02:33:24] <fragalot> and time
[02:33:48] <fragalot> we have no resources left to work on a project like this, and i'm te only one experienced enough with this kind of thing to actually do it
[02:33:54] <CaptHindsight> I'm sure you'll figure something out..
[02:34:00] <fragalot> Aye
[02:34:05] <CaptHindsight> must rest before the big day ahead
[02:34:21] <fragalot> had someone over that's modded a leadwell machine before to do something similar
[02:34:40] <fragalot> and he'd made the most sensible suggestion to date.. Standard machine, raiser block to get the Z height, done.
[02:34:54] <fragalot> so currently it's either that, or the rittal perforex
[02:35:29] <CaptHindsight> welterusten en laat de bedwantsen niet bijten
[02:35:33] <fragalot> haha
[02:35:34] <fragalot> gnite CaptHindsight :)
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[02:53:27] <gloops> youve got some high end competition for that job fragalot
[02:53:43] <gloops> theyre all going to automated fibre lasers here
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[02:54:47] <fragalot> gloops: they're not competition, those are currently suppliers. Issue is that said suppliers have HUGE lead-times
[02:55:09] <fragalot> so we're resorting to DIY because we are scratching the surface of QTY's where it starts making sense to do so
[02:55:21] <gloops> ahh right i see
[02:56:29] <gloops> im noticing, around where i live anyway, more and more higher tech operations springing up, a number of these fast cutting services
[02:57:19] <fragalot> yup
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[02:59:53] <Deejay> moin
[03:00:03] <gloops> the old coach building place up the road is now a cnc/linear motion parts-services place - the fact that the demand for places like that exists, says something, it pretty big
[03:00:22] <fragalot> of course there's demand for manufacturing
[03:00:45] <fragalot> the big trend now, is that machines have gotten so good that they get the job done in record speeds
[03:00:51] <fragalot> which reduces labor cost a lot
[03:01:02] <fragalot> and labor cost is the reason manufacturing all shifted to asia
[03:01:07] <gloops> probably more noticeable here for us, as we kinda dropped that kind of industry for 30 years
[03:01:15] <fragalot> so take that out of the equation, and manufacturing locally makes a lot of sense
[03:03:21] <gloops> not much labour involved, the machines are self loading - just one bloke on a fork truck moving stuff to and from the machine
[03:03:29] <fragalot> Exactly.
[03:03:38] <gloops> and an operator somewhere
[03:03:54] <fragalot> one operator, dozens of machines in a lights out factory
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[03:04:05] <fragalot> still producing higher quality parts in less time
[03:04:53] <gloops> the only evidence that these places are engineering works is the sign outside, you dont see any smoke or grime or rusting piles of stuff outside, its all squeaky clean
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[03:35:31] <fragalot> gloops: old timey manufacturing at it's finest: https://imgur.com
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[03:40:41] <gloops> even the old timer looks like hes had enough
[03:44:44] <fragalot> :P
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[04:18:54] <miss0r> log
[04:18:54] <c-log> miss0r: Today's Log http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[04:19:42] <XXCoder> yo
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[04:25:57] <miss0r> hey
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[06:04:11] <jthornton> morning
[06:04:26] <XXCoder> hey
[06:10:35] * miss0r found a hornets nest in his frontyard
[06:10:52] <miss0r> while trimming the bushes :)
[06:11:10] <XXCoder> oh thats fun
[06:11:34] <XXCoder> I watched a video about hornets, and man they love chicken a lot
[06:11:48] <miss0r> yeah. fragalot linked me that video. I will make that trap in a moment
[06:12:07] <XXCoder> its pretty strightforward yeah
[06:12:23] <XXCoder> just some chicken, board soapy water
[06:13:24] <miss0r> yup
[06:15:43] <jthornton> which video?
[06:16:11] <miss0r> https://www.youtube.com 3:15
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[06:16:55] <XXCoder> ignore then chemical first section
[06:17:28] <XXCoder> I learned something though
[06:17:39] <XXCoder> dont eat chicken if there might be hornets outside lol
[06:18:13] <miss0r> hehe
[06:20:39] <jthornton> I need to start using chicken in my hornet traps
[06:21:03] <XXCoder> you could do double duty, buy kfc, eat most of em and leave leftovers in traps
[06:21:15] <XXCoder> you got a ok meal, and wasps get last meal
[06:23:04] <jthornton> yuck kfc
[06:23:49] <XXCoder> lol
[06:23:56] <XXCoder> fit for wasps I guess
[06:24:16] <jthornton> I prefer Dakgangjeong https://www.maangchi.com
[06:24:26] <miss0r> wtf? don't say yuck KFC... We only have three KFC stores in Denmark.. and I have to go in everytime I get past one :D
[06:24:48] <jthornton> do you have Popeyes?
[06:24:50] <XXCoder> I haven't went to kfc for last 6 years or maybe more
[06:25:48] <miss0r> jthornton: Nope
[06:26:05] <miss0r> We basically have: McDonalds, Burger King & KFC
[06:26:16] <XXCoder> thats all?
[06:26:31] <miss0r> Unless I'm forgetting something..
[06:26:36] * jthornton worked at Burger King a long long time ago
[06:26:44] <syyl> thats enough fastfoodcrap for one country ;)
[06:26:50] <miss0r> well, thoes are the ones we have that you also have.
[06:26:59] <miss0r> We also have a swedish burger chain called MAX Burgers.
[06:27:08] <jthornton> the very first Popeyes was in a little hole in the wall joint on Williams Blvd in Kenner La
[06:27:14] <miss0r> which sucks harder than the three previous ones combined
[06:28:17] <XXCoder> jthornton: I went to 5th mcdonalds location
[06:28:22] <XXCoder> its pretty cool
[06:28:29] <XXCoder> food suck as usual but yeah
[06:29:04] <jthornton> my favorite burger is my Koren Burger http://gnipsel.com
[06:29:27] <XXCoder> hamburger HMM early era caboose
[06:29:33] <XXCoder> location dont exist anymore
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[07:03:41] <Tom_L> 63°F Hi 75
[07:03:57] <jthornton> similar here today
[07:04:08] <Tom_L> hope it's clear
[07:04:13] <Tom_L> airshow today
[07:04:26] <jthornton> we are supposed to clear up Monday
[07:08:04] <XXCoder> 69f, and heavy rain in evening
[07:08:25] <XXCoder> its high point of entire week
[07:11:54] <Loetmichel> bah, now i crave some burgers...
[07:12:11] <jthornton> lol
[07:13:29] <Loetmichel> i was so proud of me slowly shedding weight (only 119kg this morning on the scale)... well, that will go slower now ;)
[07:15:05] <jthornton> I'm a half a stone heavy today at 13
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[09:51:21] <_unreal_> I am so damn pissed off. I slept'ed for way to damn long. freaking 10am
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[10:04:49] <gloops> lol
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[12:23:13] <Blumax> Hello
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[12:57:19] <miss0r|laptop> pcw: you around?
[13:01:39] <miss0r|office2> jthornton: I have the photo now: https://imgur.com
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[13:07:36] <pcw_home> Yeah
[13:08:46] <miss0r|laptop> pcw_home: I have a question: I just sent a picture link to jthornton; in this picture is a schematic for some linea encoder signal converters I've got.
[13:09:05] <miss0r|laptop> pcw_home: I was hoping you could tell me how to wire them up with the 7i77? :)
[13:09:27] <pcw_home> standard quadrature out?
[13:09:39] <miss0r|laptop> A, A*, B, B* is sort'a selfeksplainatory
[13:10:12] <miss0r|laptop> pcw_home: excellent question. :)
[13:11:36] <miss0r|laptop> pcw_home: The only think the product page says about these is "Converts signals from Philips CNC 432 linear measuring system to TTL / RS422 encoder interface"
[13:13:14] <rmu|w> it has a quadruple rs422 line driver on the output labelled A, B, C and ERR and complementaries
[13:14:49] <miss0r|laptop> rmu|w: is that considered 'standard quadrature' ?
[13:14:53] <rmu|w> the thingy labelled PE2480 is some kind of microcontroller, no way to tell from the picture what kind of signal that generates
[13:15:24] <rmu|w> probably it is a quadrature and index signal. if you have one, hook it up and scope the outputs
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[13:15:51] <miss0r|laptop> rmu|w: I guess I'll need to. I was just hoping the information here was enough for you guys :D
[13:16:28] <miss0r|laptop> The odd thing about calling that IC 'PE2480' is that, that is the name of the philips reading head
[13:16:40] <miss0r|laptop> which is mounted on X2
[13:17:13] <miss0r|laptop> This is the link for the converter site: http://bulgarianindustry.bg
[13:17:14] <rmu|w> probably indicates the firmware
[13:17:19] <miss0r|laptop> if that at all can be of any help
[13:17:44] <rmu|w> ok, it says CPLD
[13:18:15] <rmu|w> miss0r|laptop: why don't you email them
[13:18:40] <miss0r|laptop> rmu|w: I *could*, but their english is easy to misunderstand
[13:18:50] <miss0r|laptop> especially in written form
[13:19:04] <miss0r|laptop> rmu|w: What does that CPLD tell you?
[13:20:37] <miss0r|laptop> never mind. So basically; I need to scope it or write these guys.
[13:20:57] <rmu|w> it is not a microcontroller, it is a simpler logic device, like FPGA, but smaller
[13:21:54] <rmu|w> probably that thing outputs some kind of quadrature/index signal, but i would just email them
[13:22:15] * fragalot returns!
[13:22:25] <miss0r|laptop> hello fragalot
[13:22:25] <pcw_home> No pinouts?
[13:22:52] <miss0r|laptop> pcw_home: Theres the one in the picture: https://imgur.com
[13:23:12] <miss0r|laptop> but without further information, I'm not sure what to do about it
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[13:24:37] <fragalot> miss0r|laptop: do what I do and just assume it is standard :D
[13:24:50] <pcw_home> just connect ground, A/A* B,B* and Z,Z* to the 7I77
[13:25:14] <miss0r|laptop> I don't have Z.. I have 'c'
[13:25:21] <miss0r|laptop> Should I consider that the same thing?
[13:25:37] <pcw_home> Yes
[13:25:57] <miss0r|laptop> Well then. What about the rest of the outputs? I should just disregard them?
[13:26:50] <miss0r|laptop> -not that I have any idea what they are.. well the ERR is v
[13:26:59] <miss0r|laptop> self-explanatory
[13:27:13] <miss0r|laptop> but that DECp & DECn... no idea
[13:27:25] <pcw_home> you can for now (you could wire ERR/ERR* to a spare 7I77 encoder input)
[13:28:25] <pcw_home> and DECM to a 7I77 digital input
[13:28:34] <miss0r|laptop> pcw_home: As I understand the ERR signal; it is there in case of powerloss on the encoder end. I can spare that. But I dont know what to think of the DEC?
[13:28:42] <miss0r|laptop> i.e. I have no idea what it is
[13:28:59] <pcw_home> wheres the f-in manual?
[13:29:12] <miss0r|laptop> pcw_home: Non existant
[13:29:31] * miss0r|laptop writes a mail to the seller asking for more information
[13:29:39] <miss0r|laptop> ^But i'm not holding my breath
[13:30:37] <pcw_home> DEC comes from the encoder so you might be able to figure it out from the encoder spec
[13:31:03] <miss0r|laptop> I wonder if that is needed. I will look that up. Thanks
[13:31:36] <miss0r|laptop> Just to be absolutly sure: you mentioned 'z' to be the same as 'c'.. But in the 7i77 manual, it is mentioned as 'x' - correct?
[13:31:49] <pcw_home> probably OK with just the encoder signals for now
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[13:32:09] <pcw_home> IDX I think
[13:32:32] <miss0r|laptop> yes. Perfect. Thanks
[13:32:34] <pcw_home> Z, I, IDX,C all the same on quadrature encoders
[13:33:14] <miss0r|laptop> I've been installing linear encoder on machines for a long time, but never realy had anything to do with it on a signal level. Its good to get smarter :)
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[13:33:50] <pcw_home> well except some weird ones where C is a off by one count ring
[13:34:30] <miss0r|laptop> I would assume the output of this converter is pretty generic. Otherwise, what is the point.
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[13:38:56] <gregcnc> is this related to those scales? http://alexandria.tue.nl
[13:40:06] <miss0r|laptop> gregcnc: My german sucks, but using the on-site search function (F3), I can see PE 2480 mentioned once in there. That is the name of my reader heards
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[14:11:12] <miss0r|laptop> fragalot: I have not caught any hornets with that trap yet. I've not even seen any try to come close to it yet
[14:11:38] <fragalot> really?
[14:11:42] <miss0r|laptop> yep
[14:11:52] <fragalot> maybe hornets go after something other than chicken
[14:11:55] <miss0r|laptop> I think the idea is sound enough. Perhaps they are just resting up :D
[14:12:15] <miss0r|laptop> I wouldn't think so; hornets are insect eaters. They don't do flowers ect
[14:13:05] <fragalot> miss0r|laptop: I just ordered this thing. https://imgur.com
[14:13:28] <miss0r|laptop> Sexy :]
[14:15:18] <fragalot> now to find some decent xnmu inserts :P
[14:15:23] <miss0r|laptop> Thats alot of inserts to index :D
[14:15:31] <fragalot> yup :D
[14:15:41] <fragalot> each insert should have 14 usable cutting surfaces though
[14:15:51] <fragalot> so I'm probably set for life with a box or 2
[14:17:12] <miss0r|laptop> hehe. That is pretty neat
[14:17:31] <miss0r|laptop> with that amount of inserts in it, it better last a white. indicating them all will be hell :D
[14:17:39] <fragalot> :P
[14:18:02] <fragalot> i've done the calculations and the schaublin should be able to make the cuts I want just fine
[14:20:55] <miss0r|laptop> nice
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[14:21:52] <fragalot> derp
[14:22:10] <fragalot> I couldn't find the right info anywhere except for this YT video on the exact cutter I bought, which explains which inserts work with the wedge and which don't
[14:22:20] <fragalot> obviously i've already purchased 17 inserts for the wrong one
[14:22:56] <fragalot> guess I now need to get/make a lathe holder for them :P
[14:22:59] <miss0r|laptop> hahaha.. of course you did. You can't wait - like me
[14:23:19] <fragalot> :D
[14:32:37] <Blumax> I need your help, it's been more than an hour I'm looking for, I did not want to bother you but I can not do it :(
[14:33:08] <miss0r|laptop> Blumax: its better to just ask the question ;)
[14:34:15] <Blumax> My CNC is a gantry with belt. At each start the Perpendicular is lost. I have two drivers for the Y axis and two end-stops in Y. It is a rotary 4-axis machine.
[14:35:08] <Blumax> I followed this tutorial but it does not work.
[14:35:09] <Blumax> https://forum.linuxcnc.org
[14:35:31] <Blumax> Error : Signal 'ypos-cmd' can not add OUT pin 'joint.2.motor-pos-cmd', it already has OUT pin 'joint.1.motor-pos-cmd'
[14:36:46] <pcw_home> you need two signals (say ypos1-cmd and ypos2-cmd)
[14:42:54] <pcw_home> and two Y feedback signals and two Y PID/stepgens etc
[14:51:11] <Blumax> Now I'm not wrong anymore but everything is not fixed :)
[14:51:12] <Blumax> X : Move OK, Move Y : OK witch two driver/motor, Z : no move but in UI Y move. A : move Z
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[15:15:11] <Blumax> My INI file : https://pastebin.com
[15:15:24] <Blumax> Hal file : https://pastebin.com
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[15:28:15] <pcw_home> You might look at this for inspiration: https://forum.linuxcnc.org
[15:33:31] <Blumax> pcw_home, tank you, you have hal file ?
[15:34:08] <pcw_home> https://forum.linuxcnc.org
[15:34:18] <gloops> z moving in UI - check for signal reaching z driver
[15:34:25] <pcw_home> I just googled for it
[15:34:43] <gloops> if it is moving linuxcnc it doesnt sound like your config is wrong
[15:34:53] <gloops> in linuxcnc
[15:35:38] <Blumax> I spent my day searching on google but I do not master English well so I miss some information :(
[15:37:12] <gloops> i got a 2 joint x axis, not got the files on this PC though
[15:39:07] <gloops> line 63 hal i think you may need another Y
[15:39:22] <gloops> https://forum.linuxcnc.org
[15:39:53] <gloops> err INI
[15:40:56] <gloops> kinstype needs to be BOTH
[15:52:40] <Blumax> ok, I'm looking, thank you all
[15:53:28] <pcw_home> man trivkins also might help
[15:56:21] <gloops> dont generate a 5 axis stepconfig to start
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[17:31:06] <Deejay> gn8
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[22:13:36] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com
[22:16:42] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com
[22:17:46] <Tom_L> which rails are those?
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[22:32:14] <skunkworks> this is a fix.. for some unknown reason the table is narrower than the ways.. oil troughs are showing
[22:33:07] <skunkworks> you can see it here http://electronicsam.com
[22:44:12] <skunkworks> the axis sure slide nice oiled
[22:45:34] <skunkworks> now with flow regulators/one way valves http://electronicsam.com
[22:46:27] <skunkworks> i think i posted that one already
[22:47:47] <flyback> oh canuck me
[22:47:52] <flyback> what did I see the other day
[22:47:59] <flyback> you would have thought it was backwards or something
[22:48:07] <flyback> someone used a grinder on
[22:48:13] <flyback> grinder machine tool
[22:48:19] <flyback> might have been a communitator
[22:48:20] <flyback> hmm
[22:49:35] <MarcelineVQ> you're drunk sir
[22:50:01] <flyback> nope
[22:50:05] <flyback> born this way
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