#linuxcnc | Logs for 2018-09-10

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[01:24:03] <fragalot> syyl: great work on the knuth :) love the cable drive mod.
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[04:14:22] <c-log> selroc: Today's Log http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
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[05:58:55] <jthornton> morning
[06:09:20] <Blumax> Hello, I'm not yet finish the configuration of the portico but it advances well :)
[06:09:35] <Blumax> I use kinstype = BOTH of the shot in the UI I am no longer XYZA to indicate but 01234, see here
[06:09:35] <Blumax> https://prntscr.com
[06:09:56] <Blumax> There is a solution ?
[06:13:15] <jthornton> yes http://linuxcnc.org
[06:14:54] <Tom_L> morning
[06:15:00] <jthornton> morning
[06:15:27] <Blumax> jthornton, I'm looking this, thanks
[06:15:58] <Tom_L> 57�F Hi 76
[06:16:01] <jthornton> Blumax: when you start up a gantry config you are in joint mode, after you home it changes
[06:16:44] <Blumax> ok
[06:16:52] <Tom_L> that seems odd
[06:20:34] <gloops> Blumax the config starts in JOINT mode, you have to home all axis and then it switches to global mode - XYZA
[06:20:49] <gloops> have not got my configs here but will have them later this afternoon
[06:21:10] <gloops> Blumax the config starts in JOINT mode - 01234, you have to home all axis and then it switches to global mode - XYZA
[06:21:25] <jthornton> I think they call it world mode
[06:22:05] <gloops> here https://www.youtube.com
[06:22:14] <gloops> yes probably jthornton
[06:22:38] <gloops> you cant jog until homed
[06:23:21] <Blumax> ok, after home, UI change for XYZA, if I understand correctly
[06:23:26] <gloops> yes
[06:23:45] <jthornton> ah it teleop mode
[06:23:56] <Blumax> Thanks guys, I continue to configure the endstop so :)
[06:23:57] <jthornton> you can jog before homing
[06:24:36] <gloops> jthornton you can jog each joint, but a dual motor joint wont jog in sync i dont think
[06:24:42] <jthornton> Blumax: are you using master or 2.7?
[06:24:53] <jthornton> gloops: that is correct
[06:24:58] <Blumax> 2.8
[06:25:07] <gloops> you know i cant remember now lol, i just automatically home all before doing anything
[06:25:17] <jthornton> ok good that one handles gantries correctly
[06:25:44] <gloops> if you got the config to load Blumax youre very close, some tinkering with the homing now
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[10:00:05] <armu> Any security researchers here? I have code that needs reviewing, large rewards for bugs found. DM me.
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[10:06:14] <fragalot> armu: in the unlikely event that you are not a bot: how is your code related to linuxcnc?
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[10:08:04] <CaptHindsight> how large are these rewards? 100^3 meters, 10,000^3?
[10:12:39] <skunkworks> think bigger.. 4th dimension...
[10:25:41] <Simonious> I'm doing a small production run and I'm interested in learning about doing multiples.. so I maximize my time (since I have to manually tool change and obviously I can do more other things if the machine runs longer doing multiples)
[10:25:53] <Simonious> Is this pretty easy to setup in linuxCNC
[10:25:56] <Simonious> ?
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[10:26:48] <trafaret1> Hi there
[10:26:53] <trafaret1> I need your help
[10:27:00] <trafaret1> Maybe somebody can help me
[10:27:47] <Simonious> maybe someone can, but.. it is so much better to simply ask your question than to give a lengthy preamble about needing help.
[10:27:58] <Simonious> vastly preferred in fact
[10:28:10] <trafaret1> I'm wondering about possibility launching simulation TIA portal without hardware?
[10:28:26] <Simonious> I don't know what that is! Is that a linuxCNC thing?
[10:28:27] <trafaret1> wiht HMI panel
[10:28:34] <trafaret1> nope :)
[10:28:41] <Simonious> solidworks maybe?
[10:29:04] <Simonious> heh, obviously I'm not going to be much help!
[10:29:14] <trafaret1> no it is Totaly Integrated Automation Portal
[10:30:21] <trafaret1> maybe you know channel where people discussing PLC programmign such domain
[10:34:07] * Simonious ponders
[10:34:39] <Simonious> you use linuxCNC?
[10:34:58] <Simonious> I'm not sure where to ask your questoin
[10:35:04] <Simonious> I might try #seattlerobotics
[10:35:08] <Simonious> or #Hackvana
[10:35:27] <Simonious> maybe #arduino or #platformio
[10:35:58] <trafaret1> ok thanks :)
[10:40:43] <fragalot> TIA portal is a siemens thing
[10:40:49] <trafaret1> yes
[10:40:53] <fragalot> and I believe it is possible, however I have zero experience with it.
[10:41:19] <fragalot> Simonious: as for your question, is that not more a CAM thing than a linuxcnc thing?
[10:41:34] <fragalot> Simonious: I mean.. it is possible to write macro's and loops and use work offsets to do it manually too though
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[10:58:41] <Simonious> fragalot: yes! maybe? I think so. I don't know. I'm using F360 for CAM, this is the best place I know to ask questions like this.
[10:59:04] <fragalot> f360 can certainly do it I think
[10:59:12] <fragalot> and linuxcnc can also certainly work with offsets
[10:59:21] <fragalot> so therefore, the answer to your question is "yes, it is possible". :)
[11:00:29] <gloops> g54?
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[11:51:43] <fragalot> miss0r: received an update regarding my DRO. "I am very sorry to inform you that there has been an error within our system and your order was not processed correctly. , I can assure you that this was not intentional and was an unexpected error. I would like to offer my sincere apologies."
[11:53:45] <gloops> what to use to open hal files on windows
[11:55:17] <fragalot> gloops: notepad++
[11:56:06] <fragalot> it's the only editor I know of that respects line endings
[11:56:41] <gloops> hmm, will have a look thanks
[11:56:50] <gloops> need to get a linux drive on here
[12:04:22] <pink_vampire> gloops: just use ssh from your windows to the linux
[12:04:40] <pink_vampire> with winscp or putty
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[13:09:38] <Tom_L> man what a day.. 66�F and calm
[13:09:43] <Tom_L> i'll take it
[13:11:00] <Tom_L> gloops i use notepad++ or programmer's notepad
[13:11:45] <roycroft> drizzly here, thank goodness
[13:12:53] <roycroft> we need proper monsoon level rain to start dealing with the fires, though
[13:13:21] <Tom_L> where are they concentrated at?
[13:13:39] <Tom_L> lightening or human cause?
[13:13:49] <roycroft> east of here, southeast of here, and down by the california border
[13:13:53] <gloops> cheers - i have got a hard drive with linux installed pink_vampire, and some stuff on it, i need to get round to sticking it in this box
[13:14:04] <roycroft> both natural and human caused
[13:14:17] <roycroft> i shouldn't complain though - the norcal fires are really bad
[13:14:37] <Tom_L> seems they get fires every year
[13:14:48] <gloops> wasted all afternoon trying to set planer up - could have surfaced board on router in 20 minutes
[13:14:57] <roycroft> so bad that the new huge fire down in shasta and trinitiy counties is already partial contained because it started in between the two other huge fires down there, and has burned to the other side of the fire lines already
[13:14:59] <gloops> hours pass when youre not having fun...
[13:15:27] <roycroft> they're getting wors, tom_l
[13:15:31] <Tom_L> they fly when you are
[13:15:32] <roycroft> both in frequency and severity
[13:15:59] <roycroft> seven years of drought aren't fixed by one normal rain season
[13:16:37] <roycroft> and half a century of poor forest management can't be fixed quickly
[13:17:22] <roycroft> oh well, at least it doesn't smell like smoke today (yet)
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[13:19:54] <gloops> now got a couple of afternoons to turn a £50 piece of oak into a wedding sign for saturday lol
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[13:20:08] <miss0r|office2> fragalot :)
[13:20:14] <fragalot> 'ello
[13:20:19] <miss0r|office2> I phoned GLS again today
[13:20:40] <fragalot> were they any help?
[13:20:47] <miss0r|office2> and she told me, that she could see that the package was already marked 'missing'.
[13:20:52] <miss0r|office2> and noone has been able to find it
[13:20:59] <fragalot> ha.
[13:21:14] <miss0r|office2> She told me to wait 10 days, before it could be declared missing. Then a settlement can be made
[13:21:14] <Tom_L> not the one with the faulty screws in the lid??
[13:21:17] <fragalot> maybe I should play the lottery
[13:21:21] <fragalot> win the numbers
[13:21:24] <fragalot> and have them lose the ticket
[13:21:29] <miss0r|office2> lol
[13:21:40] <fragalot> what were the terms of the settlement,
[13:21:45] <miss0r|office2> Just don't send your winning ticked by mail
[13:22:03] <miss0r|office2> up to ~600 eur ensurance
[13:22:13] <miss0r|office2> I just have to prove that is what it is worth
[13:22:34] <fragalot> shouldn't be too hard given that it's a tapmatic that retails for over 1k?
[13:23:00] <miss0r|office2> so; I'm thinking: What ever settlement I can manage, you will get half. Unless the settlement is below your price for it. Then you get it all ;)
[13:23:04] <fragalot> unless if an invoice is required, in which case we're SOL
[13:23:25] <miss0r|office2> nah - they know it is a prescent for a previous coworker in Belgium
[13:23:55] <miss0r|office2> But lets just cross our fingers that it will shop up
[13:23:59] <Tom_L> the postman that has it will show up here eventually asking how it works
[13:24:04] <fragalot> haha
[13:24:05] <miss0r|office2> (althoug, I am not holding my breath)
[13:24:16] <miss0r|office2> hehe yeah
[13:24:24] <fragalot> at least the biax made it
[13:24:28] <miss0r|office2> & then we get'im !
[13:24:32] <miss0r|office2> yeah
[13:24:44] <fragalot> I got a notification that there's another one on ebay
[13:24:48] <miss0r|office2> Had we shipped in the other order, I would drive down and pick it up myself
[13:25:08] <miss0r|office2> brb on the shop irc
[13:25:18] <fragalot> 1k8 :P
[13:25:57] <roycroft> yet another parcel has arrived at the local ups depot days early - it arrived saturday morning, with a scheduled delivery date of wednesday
[13:26:03] <roycroft> and it's still scheduled for delivery on wednesday
[13:26:23] <roycroft> because it makes more sense for ups to warehouse it than to just stick it on the truck when it's ready to deliver
[13:26:44] <roycroft> they are the only carrier who do that
[13:27:05] <fragalot> at least they actually deliver it
[13:27:12] * fragalot glares at his experiences the last few weeks
[13:27:27] <roycroft> yes, and i'm not upset about it
[13:27:30] <roycroft> i just think it's stupid
[13:28:00] <roycroft> and it actually gives me less incentive to use ups, vs. being willing to pay more for expedited shipping
[13:28:01] <miss0r> meh..
[13:28:01] <Tom_L> no, they can charge more for their premier services than
[13:28:04] <Tom_L> then
[13:28:23] <miss0r> fragalot: Well, with some luck, you are looking at earning money on that tapmatic :)
[13:28:27] <Tom_L> and just tell joe in the warehouse to THROW it on the truck
[13:28:31] <roycroft> that's the only reason i can imagine for their strange behavior - if they actually deliver something early someone might decide not to pay more for expedited shipping
[13:28:49] <Tom_L> they used to not do that
[13:29:03] <roycroft> i can't ever remember getting a parcel from ups early
[13:29:15] <Tom_L> i can
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[13:29:19] <roycroft> i get things early all the time from fedex and usps and ontrac and dhl
[13:29:40] <fragalot> miss0r: doubt it :) customer rep was friendly for the schaublin too, but then it gets passed to insurance & they require invoices for any repairs, but they also require one of their own experts to assess the damages at the same time if they disagree with said invoices.
[13:29:52] <roycroft> but in fairness, i've also never experienced the serious damage that lots of folks report from parcels being mishandled by ups
[13:30:16] <miss0r> fragalot: hmm... That sucks
[13:30:17] <roycroft> i can recall only once in recent memory where something was damaged in shipping, and that was clearly because it was not packaged correclty
[13:30:54] <roycroft> when the driver arrived with the ripped open box, i took one look at it and said to him "this is clearly the shipper's fault - i hope most of the pieces are still here"
[13:31:07] <miss0r> fragalot: Well, in that case I can only prove the original price I payed for it. the price you also payed. you are not likely to find another one for that price
[13:31:29] <fragalot> miss0r: nope. We'll seee.
[13:31:43] <miss0r> It better f'ing turn up!
[13:32:02] * Tom_L waits for the postman to show up in here
[13:32:25] <miss0r> I've ordered quite a few things lately. only *ONE* of the things I ordered turned up on time. That was a standard letter sent from jthornton :D
[13:32:32] <roycroft> for those of you who ship stuff: it's not a good idea to toss a bunch of angle iron and fasterers into a big box without any padding/wrapping and expect that everything will still be in the box when it is delivered
[13:32:58] <miss0r> roycroft: duly noted
[13:33:29] <fragalot> miss0r: at least i've got the collets and a spare nut now xD
[13:33:44] <fragalot> roycroft: that's why you tape the seems
[13:33:45] <Tom_L> i've got a part i order somewhat frequently that weighs upwards of 50lbs and i don't think i've ever received one that the box wasn't ripped
[13:33:47] <fragalot> seams?
[13:33:50] <fragalot> however that's spelled
[13:33:53] <roycroft> so i got my hearing protection with tunes capability on friday
[13:34:03] <Tom_L> but the small parts are taped to the metal
[13:34:05] <roycroft> i used it over the weekend and am pretty happy with it
[13:34:20] <miss0r> fragalot: Another great example of me rushing into projects: I finished the drawings for the retrofit earlier today. As it turns out, I could've just ordered the 7i77, as it has quite enough I/Os. I didn't have to order the additional 7i64 :D
[13:34:30] <roycroft> i'm working in a noisy machine room (computer servers - that kind of machine room) today, and brought it with me
[13:34:43] <roycroft> and it's pretty nice - the radio even works pretty well inside the machine room
[13:34:46] <Tom_L> miss0r you just can't have too many mesa cards
[13:35:05] <fragalot> miss0r: xD
[13:35:17] <roycroft> this is what i ended up getting:
[13:35:18] <roycroft> https://www.amazon.com
[13:35:23] <fragalot> miss0r: at least you now have enough IO for auxillaries like a toolchanger
[13:35:36] <roycroft> the sound is not audiophile quality, but it's clear and quite listenable
[13:35:56] <roycroft> and the price was pretty good
[13:36:02] <miss0r|office2> Tom_L: That is true.
[13:36:03] <roycroft> i was not wanting to spend $300 for something
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[13:36:12] <roycroft> and i don't think anr is necessary for my application
[13:36:14] <miss0r|office2> fragalot: I already added that - still don't need the 7i64
[13:36:21] <miss0r|office2> :D
[13:36:23] * fragalot would love it if he could just strap his B&W 683 series to his head
[13:36:37] <fragalot> miss0r|office2: hydraulic vise? :P
[13:36:46] <miss0r|office2> I think you'd need shoulder braces for that
[13:36:51] <roycroft> well this is a heck of a lot better than the old method
[13:36:58] <miss0r|office2> fragalot: I still have a few I/Os left.
[13:37:11] <roycroft> which was wearing similar earmuffs, and then turning the stereo up REALLY LOUD so i could still hear it with the earmuffs on
[13:37:15] <fragalot> miss0r|office2: tower light, buzzer,...
[13:37:37] <miss0r|office2> fragalot: I already added a tower light :D
[13:37:42] <miss0r|office2> no buzzer, though
[13:37:42] <fragalot> but no buzzer
[13:37:46] <fragalot> noob
[13:37:59] <miss0r|office2> well.. The tower light I have has a built in buzzer.. and I still have a few outputs left...
[13:38:14] * miss0r|office2 flaps fralalot with a buzzer
[13:38:46] <miss0r|office2> even the towerlight is overkill... Its not like I need it to keep an overview of my machine park from my catwalk
[13:38:53] <Blumax> gloops, jthornton (and other), the homing works, but once the home is done I always 01234 in the UI and not XYZA and impossible to do job in there. See here https://prnt.sc
[13:39:41] <gloops> hmm, check the error message Blumax
[13:39:56] <fragalot> miss0r|office2: still. you need an extractor fan
[13:40:23] <gloops> Blumax are you running 'home all'
[13:40:51] <miss0r|office2> fragalot: I can live with manualy opening the ventilation valve above the machine :) (noob)
[13:41:54] <fragalot> miss0r|office2: RGB worklights? :D
[13:42:10] <miss0r|office2> haha now we're talking
[13:42:17] <Blumax> I'm use the button "Prise d'origine général", in english "general origin"
[13:42:33] <fragalot> miss0r|office2: did you factor in your sub-spindle?
[13:43:02] <Blumax> I"mg go try without negative home_sequence
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[13:43:35] <Blumax> And I'm going to watch how to put the ui in English
[13:44:34] <miss0r|office2> well, yes and no. NO: no electrical controls are set aside for it. yes: I thought about it :D
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[13:45:35] <miss0r|office2> This is going to be a very uncomplicated build: other than the connectors & the 7i77, theres only going to be a PSU and three relays in that box.
[13:45:43] <miss0r|office2> (not counting buttons, screen & pc)
[13:46:39] <gloops> thats my ini that works https://justpaste.it
[13:46:45] <fragalot> yeah i'm not sure why you were worried about this conversion
[13:47:09] <miss0r|office2> fragalot: I'm not; as long as I've got you with me when it comes to the programming ;)
[13:47:38] <miss0r|office2> and I still need to draw up a schematic of what speed ranges & gears should run together
[13:48:27] <gloops> actually looking at it my ini is probably not a good example to follow lol
[13:48:50] <gloops> i err, messed about with stuff to get the XY 0 where i wanted it
[13:48:56] <miss0r|office2> I've actualy thought about using an arduino or something simular to handle the gear changes. and just have the 7i77 request it
[13:49:19] <miss0r|office2> But that is just me running scared from the thought of programming that in linuxcnc
[13:50:02] <fragalot> xD
[13:50:12] <fragalot> that would be so incredibly hacky
[13:50:41] <miss0r|office2> Its just to solder points from using a bucket with rocks in it
[13:51:07] <miss0r|office2> rephrase: "Its just two solder points away from using a bucket with rocks in it"
[13:51:17] <miss0r|office2> is what I meant to say.
[13:51:38] <Tom_L> miss0r did you look over skunkworks' gearchange comp?
[13:52:21] <miss0r|office2> Tom_L: I didn't, no. But I saved the link, so I will. I read a bit on it, though. and sadly what I need is a little more complex in a way
[13:52:56] <miss0r|office2> I have a combination of a variable speed DC drive and gears.
[13:54:01] <miss0r|office2> I was hoping to find something along the lines of; G-code states: s3200 M3. The computer looks at the gear table and decides that 3200rpm is in gear X, and the output voltage to the DC drive should be 8.73volt ect
[13:54:48] <JT-Shop> I don't see why you can't do that
[13:55:04] <miss0r|office2> But this will all succeed at some point. I have a faint image in my head, that I have the gear vs speed ranges in a binder somewhere
[13:55:19] <jdh> do it in ladder?
[13:55:21] <miss0r|office2> JT-Shop: Sure, not do I. But seing as I've never programmed anything for linuxcnc, it seems like a daunting task
[13:55:41] <Blumax> gloops, I tested the same configuration but I remove the 4th axis (A), it works at once but not A ^^
[13:55:50] <Blumax> I dont have home on A
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[13:56:04] <Blumax> Maybe that's why?
[13:56:49] <Tom_L> you can likely disable homing A in the ini
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[13:58:04] <miss0r|office2> jdh: again, I've never done any programming in linuxCNC. I guess that what throws me of course
[13:58:13] <fragalot> miss0r|office2: how well does the mill handle "on the fly" gearchanges? :P has it got a synchromesh gearbox?
[13:58:46] <miss0r|office2> fragalot: if by 'on the fly' you mean 'gear teeth *flying* in the air', then yes
[13:59:15] <miss0r|office2> it does not have a synchromesh.
[13:59:28] <miss0r|office2> I have 'some' ajustability within the DC drive, that is it
[13:59:31] <CaptHindsight> miss0r|office2: thank you for using the |
[13:59:47] <fragalot> nothing wrong with a good |
[13:59:58] <miss0r|office2> what is wrong with it? |||
[14:00:06] <miss0r|office2> :)
[14:00:23] <miss0r|office2> fragalot: It just hit me; perhaps he was not sarcastic..
[14:00:31] <CaptHindsight> without the | it would be funny
[14:01:08] <fragalot> me sore office :D
[14:01:08] <miss0r|office2> heh.. Yeah, I can see that now :D
[14:01:15] <Blumax> Tom_L, with what ?
[14:01:43] <miss0r|office2> it would sound like miss orifice
[14:02:38] <miss0r|office2> at some point it struck me what a terrible name miss0r is. in the electronics chat it would translate to "Miss Zero Resistance"
[14:02:47] <FinboySlick> miss0r|office2: Drilling specialist!
[14:03:09] <miss0r|office2> This is getting out'a hand.. Wha?
[14:03:12] <fragalot> miss0r sorry, me love you long time?
[14:03:49] <fragalot> also - even in an electronics chat, nobody would have gotten that :D
[14:04:02] <fragalot> and if they did.. oh boy.
[14:04:21] <FinboySlick> A schaublin owner only loves his schaublin. Don't believe his lies, miss0r|office2
[14:04:29] <miss0r|office2> I guess not. But it is common to think that I am of the female gender. Which is quite helpful in electronics chat :D I don't correct people assuming that. It is easier to get help that way :D
[14:04:38] <fragalot> haha
[14:05:02] <miss0r|office2> FinboySlick: Don't worry; I'm under no illusions :)
[14:05:32] <fragalot> can I love the new face mill too?
[14:05:34] <FinboySlick> She is a demanding swiss mistress.
[14:05:40] <gloops> Blumax not something ive done - had an A axis on top
[14:05:48] <FinboySlick> You'll have to ask the 13.
[14:05:59] <fragalot> I hope she likes it, it's a gift for her
[14:06:07] <miss0r|office2> story of the nick: Back in the day I used to play alot of first person shooter.. (yeah, I know :-/). Back then I was called Garfield_. Garfield is a cat. in danish misser is the equivalent of kitty. and misser turned to miss0r.. there we go
[14:06:23] <fragalot> better story than mine
[14:06:25] <jthornton> Blumax: did you set your gantry joints home sequence to a negative number?
[14:06:29] <miss0r|office2> fragalot: Remember to have real dimond inserts :P
[14:06:38] <fragalot> miss0r|office2: only the finest!
[14:06:48] <miss0r|office2> Then she is bound to love it :D
[14:07:01] <miss0r|office2> Just make sure she does not love it so much, she fuses tapers with it ;)
[14:07:01] <FinboySlick> miss0r|office2: Well, there are feline euphemisms for feminine gender too.
[14:07:11] <jthornton> miss0r|office2: dang your like me and on here with several nics lol... I could see doing it in classicladder or as a comp
[14:07:54] <CaptHindsight> schaublin sounds like something possibly done in private
[14:07:57] <gloops> hmm, new contact lenses available with 3x optical zoom, good idea
[14:08:10] <miss0r|office2> jthornton: You wouldn't happen to have a link for a tutorial on the subject?
[14:08:17] <miss0r|office2> fragalot: So, what is the story of your nick?
[14:08:21] <FinboySlick> CaptHindsight: schaublin the butt
[14:08:26] <jthornton> I do for classicladder
[14:08:37] <fragalot> miss0r|office2: FPS. I was good.
[14:08:41] <miss0r|office2> jthornton; Then that is where I shall start :)
[14:08:45] <gloops> CaptHindsight and desolate carparks and laybys
[14:08:47] <miss0r|office2> fragalot: Not as good as me ;)
[14:08:51] <jthornton> http://gnipsel.com
[14:08:51] <miss0r|office2> :D
[14:08:52] <fragalot> miss0r|office2: top 12 european good.
[14:08:57] <Blumax> jthornton, negative or not that works.
[14:09:16] <jthornton> I always start with a written description of what has to happen
[14:09:22] <fragalot> now I'd be happy to make it out of the spawn point
[14:09:22] <fragalot> :D
[14:09:33] <miss0r|office2> you and me both
[14:09:46] <FinboySlick> fragalot: Think of all the mills you could buy if you spent all that time becoming a PUBG streamer on twitch.
[14:10:06] <fragalot> FinboySlick: twitch wasn't a thing at the time :P
[14:10:16] <FinboySlick> But it is now. You missed your window.
[14:10:17] <fragalot> FinboySlick: and my bandwidth limit was 5G a month...
[14:10:18] <miss0r|office2> jthornton: That looks like some good reading :) THanks
[14:10:20] <jthornton> A negative HOME_SEQUENCE also applies to commands to home a single joint. If the HOME_SEQUENCE value is negative, all joints having the same absolute value of that HOME_SEQUENCE will be homed together with a synchronized final move.
[14:11:18] <jthornton> miss0r|office2: the turret example configuration is a good example to study
[14:11:45] <miss0r|office2> Indeed.
[14:12:15] <gloops> Blumax http://linuxcnc.org
[14:12:52] <Blumax> Yes I understood how it works.
[14:12:52] <Blumax> If I take off "A" it works. On "A" I do not end, the problem does not come from there?
[14:13:07] <jthornton> I would do something like if snnn is in range 0-100 for example use gear A and multiply snnn by some number to get volts out
[14:13:12] <gloops> sounds like the A to me
[14:13:37] <miss0r|office2> jthornton: That makes sense
[14:13:53] <miss0r|office2> I'd also need a ladder for doing the actual gear change.
[14:14:18] <Blumax> A is a digitizer divider.
[14:14:56] <gloops> https://forum.linuxcnc.org
[14:15:53] <gloops> probably a lot more posts on A homing on the forum
[14:16:49] <jthornton> the same ladder can handle both
[14:17:00] * jthornton notices lunch minute is over
[14:17:36] <jthornton> Blumax: it would be easier if you have an A axis that you unplug to just have two configurations one for with and one for without
[14:24:23] <Blumax> Thank you gloops, I look at that.
[14:24:40] <Blumax> jthornton, it's not a solution ^^
[14:24:40] <JT-Shop> miss0r|office2: to prove your ladder use a classicladder sim and add led's for the gear change output and buttons for sensor inputs
[14:24:59] <JT-Shop> add a pyvcp panel to the sim
[14:25:13] * JT-Shop head to the fab shop to make sparks
[14:25:22] <miss0r|office2> JT-Shop: Good idea :D
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[14:41:57] <miss0r|office2> fragalot: also; That chicken trap didn't catch a single hornet all day
[14:42:02] <miss0r|office2> Tomorrow I'll take it down.
[14:43:53] <fragalot> you must have done it wrong
[14:44:02] <fragalot> maybe you've got a vegetarian hive
[14:44:21] <miss0r|office2> the hornets will only eat a certain type of organic chicken? and only breast parts? :D
[14:44:45] <miss0r|office2> I've not even seen one approach it. I don't get it
[14:45:10] <fragalot> are you sure they're hornets and not innocent little bumblebees
[14:45:25] <miss0r|office2> quite :)
[14:46:14] <FinboySlick> miss0r|office2: https://www.youtube.com
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[14:48:06] <miss0r|office2> FinboySlick: :D only issue is; these big ones will just walse over and turn off the blower & kick my ass afterwards
[14:49:21] <FinboySlick> miss0r|office2: https://www.bugasalt.com use your FPS skills!
[14:49:30] <FinboySlick> (I have one of those, they're great)
[14:50:07] <miss0r|office2> woah
[14:50:16] <miss0r|office2> That looks awesome :D
[14:50:31] <miss0r|office2> Whats the range on that?
[14:50:54] <FinboySlick> Realistically, you have about 1m range but it's still very satisfying to shoot the bugger that bumped your head a couple times.
[14:51:13] <miss0r|office2> I wonder if this would actualy even hurt the hornets?
[14:51:17] <FinboySlick> Very tough to catch them in flight though.
[14:51:21] <FinboySlick> Yes.
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[14:51:44] <FinboySlick> They'll go down and the embedded salt will kill them a few minutes later.
[14:51:48] * fragalot uses an electric bug swatter he got in the UK..
[14:51:53] <fragalot> seems they're not that big on safety there
[14:51:58] <fragalot> because damn that thing packs a punch
[14:52:08] <miss0r|office2> well. these hornets I have are the kind that are ~40-45mm in length
[14:52:10] <fragalot> most just vaporize
[14:52:20] <fragalot> big boys!
[14:52:23] <miss0r|office2> yeah
[14:52:29] <FinboySlick> miss0r|office2: I've taken down junebugs with mine.
[14:52:43] <Blumax> jthornton, gloops and other, thank you, all works correctly :)
[14:53:14] <miss0r|office2> then it packs a decent punch, yeah :D
[14:54:02] <miss0r|office2> I'll need to see if I can find my old bug swatter. one of those tennis rackets, where it has two layers of mesh, each connected to a pole on a capasitor
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[14:54:36] <FinboySlick> miss0r|office2: If you catch flies in-flight, they pretty much vaporise. If there is a surface (window, wall), the air gets redirected and it doesn't hit as much.
[14:54:41] <miss0r|office2> I super charged mine some years ago.. that little charging circuit struggles to charge it :D but when it does (after about 30 seconds) it vaporizes the bugs
[14:55:17] <miss0r|office2> FinboySlick: It sounds like great fun. but who wants salt everywhere? :D
[14:55:59] <FinboySlick> It's actually very little salt. An airplane salt packet would be 5 shots.
[14:56:08] <miss0r|office2> ha
[14:56:12] <fragalot> miss0r|office2: go to the UK & get one of the zappers from go outdoors; they're the most powerful (out of the box) ones i've found so far :P
[14:56:40] <miss0r|office2> :D
[14:56:47] <fragalot> also, camera flash capacitors pack a decent hit :D
[14:56:54] <miss0r|office2> yeah
[14:56:57] <gloops> yes, 200 days to get your british zappers
[14:57:00] <miss0r|office2> That was what I added to mine
[14:57:07] <FinboySlick> https://www.bugasalt.com is for the big bugs, probably better suited for your wasps. But that one will throw a lot more salt.
[14:57:35] <fragalot> FinboySlick: does it accept rock salt?
[14:58:14] <FinboySlick> Maybe but I'm not sure how well it would work. It's better suited to table salt since it's meant more like flak/buckshot
[14:58:37] <miss0r|office2> hehe. Who comes up with this stuff? :D
[14:58:39] <FinboySlick> Larger grains might hit harder but they're not as likely to hit.
[14:59:18] <miss0r|office2> Any of you guys know if it is possible to get one of these fleabay special MPGs that are wireless and has a USB dongle with linuxCNC?
[14:59:20] <Simonious> How do I copy a design in F360? This guy has nearly the same question I do: https://knowledge.autodesk.com
[14:59:48] <FinboySlick> fragalot: You could always use a file on a piece of depleted uranium and turn your house into a radioactive warzone ;)
[14:59:53] <Inline> weren't there some chinese zappers too a few years ago, where they tried field trial with crickets ?
[14:59:58] <Blumax> gloops thank you, all works correctly :)
[15:00:00] <Inline> heh
[15:00:12] <gloops> jolly good Blumax :)
[15:00:19] <Inline> btw it was optimized only for crickets tho i think.....
[15:00:44] <gloops> Simonious box select>copy..no?
[15:00:50] <fragalot> miss0r|office2: MPG -> mach3 -> arduino -> lcnc :D
[15:01:04] <miss0r|office2> hackidy hack hack
[15:01:16] <Simonious> gloops: I think I found a path that'll work, trying it.
[15:01:34] <fragalot> miss0r|office2: i'm especially fond of the arduino intermediary
[15:01:47] <miss0r|office2> fragalot: I thought as much :D
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[15:02:39] <gloops> just swigging some of this 'Koppaberg' what the mrs and daughter brought, pear cider with fruit juice - it tastes like kids pop
[15:03:22] <fragalot> all cider does
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[15:04:34] <miss0r|office2> fragalot: I would normally agree with you, just to get a kick out'a messing with gloops. But I've had some realy nice cider in france, actualy
[15:04:35] <gloops> well im not a big cider fan anyway, but a lot of young drinks these days are just really sweet with sweet shop flavouring, i dont know how they drink this full time
[15:04:59] <miss0r|office2> gloops: full time? :D that sounds like someone with issues
[15:05:15] <gloops> ok - at all then lol
[15:05:21] <miss0r|office2> :D
[15:08:15] <gloops> Blumax - forgot to ask - what machine have you made?
[15:10:24] <Blumax> gloops, here : https://flic.kr
[15:11:12] <miss0r|office2> fragalot: I've found this: https://www.ebay.co.uk And it seems to be well supported with LinuxCNC.
[15:11:13] <Blumax> home made from skratch
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[15:11:28] <miss0r|office2> Building a new controller: I think it is a waste to use a wired unit :D
[15:11:49] <gloops> hey that looks good Blumax, good z drop there
[15:12:31] <miss0r|office2> Blumax: Damn, you are even more tightly packen than I :D
[15:12:45] <fragalot> :D
[15:13:17] <gloops> nice work on the lathe too
[15:13:46] <miss0r|office2> What lathe?
[15:13:52] <fragalot> his lathe.
[15:13:58] <miss0r|office2> well, duh
[15:14:08] <Tom_L> Blumax, http://linuxcnc.org
[15:14:16] <miss0r|office2> I just didn't feel like browsing a million picutres :D
[15:14:25] <Tom_L> 3.12. If an axis does not have home switches or does not have a logical home position like a rotary axis and you want that axis to home at the current position when the "Home All" button is pressed in Axis the following ini entries for that axis are needed.
[15:14:54] <gloops> right
[15:15:00] <gloops> no switch on a rotary
[15:15:18] <gloops> https://www.flickr.com nice printed parts as well?
[15:15:22] <Tom_L> i assume his A axis was rotary
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[15:16:11] <Tom_L> just catching up on the log..
[15:16:51] <gloops> he got it going Tom_L
[15:17:15] <Tom_L> i see that now :D
[15:17:39] <gloops> for rotary homing on 2.8 - just 0 everything on the rotary homing and YES
[15:18:22] <Tom_L> so it's backward on 2.8?
[15:18:26] <Tom_L> the docs say NO
[15:18:55] <gloops> err NO, thats right
[15:19:20] * Tom_L was ready to call the docs police
[15:19:22] <gloops> Blumaxs control box - look at that https://www.flickr.com
[15:20:01] <Tom_L> :D
[15:20:38] <Tom_L> a little fire prevention measures could be in order
[15:21:28] <miss0r|office2> gloops: which makes me wonder what your control box looks like. You've never posted pictures. If I didn't know better, I'd say you were ashamed to show it ;)
[15:21:58] <Tom_L> mine's pretty fugly but i show it
[15:22:22] <miss0r|office2> Tom_L: Are we still talking control boxes here?
[15:22:28] <Tom_L> yes
[15:22:40] <miss0r|office2> hehe :)
[15:22:44] <Tom_L> other parts are adorable :D
[15:23:31] <miss0r|office2> I better make my controller a goddamn masterpiece after all my statements in here :D
[15:23:46] <Tom_L> yeah you better
[15:23:49] <miss0r|office2> if theres a single screw out'a place, fragalot will ride me like the devil :)
[15:23:52] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[15:23:54] <FinboySlick> gloops: You need Sam L Jackson and John Travolta opening that up and seeing a warm glow.
[15:23:57] <Tom_L> last thing off the mill
[15:24:02] <Tom_L> upper left
[15:24:21] <miss0r|office2> Nice
[15:24:26] <Tom_L> as he should
[15:24:31] <miss0r|office2> indeed
[15:24:51] <Tom_L> mine runs like a clock so i'm not about to touch the control blx
[15:24:53] <Tom_L> box
[15:25:03] <miss0r|office2> Sure. I get that. :)
[15:25:17] <fragalot> miss0r|office2: you better align the screws as well
[15:25:22] <miss0r|office2> I just love opening up a clean & properly marked control box - much easier for future work
[15:25:38] <Tom_L> i've got a 'book' on mine
[15:25:41] <FinboySlick> gloops: https://www.youtube.com
[15:25:42] <miss0r|office2> fragalot: I'll use hex, and bore them out afterwards - No alignment for this guy :D
[15:25:45] <jdh> mine is clean and unmarked
[15:25:48] <Tom_L> all colors & connectors marked
[15:25:58] <miss0r|office2> great :D
[15:26:12] <jdh> I meant to draw up a wiring diagram but too late now.
[15:26:25] <miss0r|office2> yeah, now you can't remember what is what
[15:26:33] <Tom_L> mine changed as i went but i kept updating it
[15:26:37] <fragalot> miss0r|office2: what about the little screw markings on the heads?
[15:26:45] <Tom_L> now i just gotta figure out which docs are current :)
[15:27:02] <miss0r|office2> fragalot: Screw Sc-0.5.2_3
[15:27:33] <Blumax> miss0r|office2, Yes I do not have much space :) The machine has a useful area of 838x1425x340mm
[15:27:46] <miss0r|office2> fragalot: If that be the case, I better threadmill everything :D
[15:27:53] <miss0r|office2> Blumax: That is pretty nice
[15:28:12] <Blumax> gloops, yes 3D printed part
[15:28:29] <fragalot> miss0r|office2: don't assume the screws are all aligned.
[15:28:33] <Tom_L> i at least got a decent albeit too small box off ebay
[15:28:37] <Blumax> In the picture it is a filament extruder for another printer
[15:28:47] <fragalot> miss0r|office2: so you'll have to make precision washers
[15:28:55] <miss0r|office2> fragalot: No no, I'll have to make those as well :D
[15:29:05] <Tom_L> yeah machined... none of that stamped out crap
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[15:29:15] <fragalot> Tom_L: ground!
[15:29:31] <miss0r|office2> I better call it a night. Tomorrow I have to go work on a horrible horrible horrible machine at a factory that makes those swabs you use to clean your ears with.
[15:29:36] <Blumax> And I made a 3D printer without dimension limit on one axis https://flic.kr
[15:29:47] <miss0r|office2> No documentation & "upgrades" made over the last decade with what ever wire was at hand
[15:29:52] <miss0r|office2> see you around
[15:30:01] <Tom_L> miss0r at least they don't recycle them
[15:30:07] <miss0r|office2> hehee
[15:30:10] <miss0r|office2> Yeah...
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[17:05:14] <gregcnc> pink_vampire found you a lathe https://www.instagram.com
[17:07:25] <Deejay> gn8
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[17:16:06] <phipli> Interesting for anyone? https://www.humblebundle.com
[17:20:45] <pink_vampire> gregcnc: AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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[17:53:22] <_unreal_> sweet my programmer showed up in the mail finally
[17:53:38] <_unreal_> NOW I have the drive and desire to build my 3 sla7024's
[17:53:46] <_unreal_> for my home CNC
[17:54:14] <_unreal_> I cant do any thing with my home one till I have my phase converter chips
[17:54:33] <_unreal_> and I have the chips I just needed to programthem
[17:54:36] <_unreal_> o:)
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[18:06:27] <FAalbers> Hello ! What is the best way to export data from Fusion 360 into LinuxCNC ?
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[18:53:10] <_unreal_> FAalbers, wish I could help not sure.... I thought fusion has a gcode exporter?
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[19:54:27] <flyback> _unreal_, first thing you should build is a really good heatsink and fan
[19:54:29] <flyback> STUPID CANUCK
[19:54:31] <flyback> STUPID CANUCK
[19:54:46] <flyback> :P
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[20:30:35] <_unreal_> heatsink?
[20:30:44] <_unreal_> for
[20:30:46] <_unreal_> ?
[20:35:20] <flyback> the sla7024's
[20:35:25] <flyback> I was being silly :)
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[20:53:52] <_unreal_> I'd build the 7026's but I have not gotten my resistors yet
[20:53:53] <_unreal_> :/
[20:54:06] <_unreal_> so I can only build the 7024's I do have those resistors
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[22:02:44] <_unreal_> sigh
[22:03:16] <_unreal_> hello
[22:03:17] <_unreal_> ?
[22:04:06] <flyback> hi :)
[22:06:53] <_unreal_> https://www.amazon.com
[22:06:58] <flyback> sadly I think the mind or body is going to go before I get to play wirh that stuff
[22:07:10] <_unreal_> ?
[22:07:20] <flyback> the rush move is taking it's toll on me
[22:07:33] <_unreal_> um
[22:07:34] <_unreal_> hum
[22:07:57] <flyback> even my boss offered me a room but it's still taking a lot of stress on me
[22:08:26] <_unreal_> what are you doing for work these days
[22:08:41] <flyback> same place I been working for 12 hrs part time
[22:08:43] <flyback> IT firm
[22:08:49] <flyback> 12 yrs
[22:08:50] <flyback> not hrs
[22:08:57] <_unreal_> kind of what my brother does
[22:09:11] <_unreal_> he works for a CC company in the analitics IT.....
[22:09:16] <flyback> grandma died last wed so the house will be sold
[22:09:28] <_unreal_> Suprised she didnt will it
[22:09:32] <_unreal_> to you
[22:09:34] <flyback> she did
[22:09:35] <flyback> 3 kids
[22:09:36] <_unreal_> ?
[22:09:47] <flyback> mom has the controlling interest being the oldest
[22:09:52] <flyback> but eventually it will still be sold
[22:09:53] <_unreal_> ahh
[22:10:14] <_unreal_> always comes back to money
[22:10:26] <flyback> no it's not really that
[22:10:42] <flyback> im saying mom could block for as long as I need
[22:10:48] <flyback> but eventually it has to happen
[22:11:31] <_unreal_> hum
[22:12:06] <flyback> my only concern is my shit get damaged more before I finish the data recovery project on stuff I lost 18 yrs ago
[22:12:14] <flyback> else anything else can be replaced
[22:12:33] <flyback> we will see
[22:12:55] <_unreal_> nothing like data recovery...
[22:13:09] <flyback> ive actually become somewhat of a legend at work
[22:13:09] <_unreal_> when I moved to FL I think I lost an entire CD trapper keeper filled with DISKS
[22:13:10] <flyback> on this
[22:13:18] <flyback> but always scared to touch my own shitt
[22:13:20] <flyback> I still have one of those
[22:13:23] <flyback> and they still read
[22:13:25] <flyback> 20 yrs later
[22:13:30] <flyback> all the yrs of being a anal basterd
[22:13:36] <_unreal_> I think I LOST the entire thing off my truck
[22:13:37] <flyback> only using japan cdr media
[22:13:38] <flyback> paid off
[22:13:54] <flyback> also I kept them in a dark bin
[22:14:10] <_unreal_> I remember catching a few things that flew off my truck but I dont know for how long shit was flying before I caught it
[22:14:19] <flyback> my dad tossed the box of printouts
[22:14:34] <_unreal_> schematics?
[22:14:37] <flyback> no
[22:14:39] <_unreal_> or print offs
[22:14:42] <flyback> early email, irc bbs days
[22:14:46] <flyback> friends I made online etc
[22:14:46] <_unreal_> ahh
[22:14:48] <flyback> :/
[22:14:50] <_unreal_> that bastard
[22:14:54] <flyback> wasn't on purpose
[22:15:28] <_unreal_> thats what They all say :)
[22:15:43] <flyback> speaking of stress, laxative to resolve stressed induced damage is kicking so bbl
[22:16:03] <_unreal_> ahh..eeee...w.wwww...
[22:16:18] <pink_vampire> i just came across this cnc machine with integrated 4th axis https://www.thingiverse.com
[22:17:15] <_unreal_> nifty
[22:17:19] <_unreal_> Who sell's it :)
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[23:36:42] <flyback> have you seen the harbor freight hack
[23:37:45] <flyback> https://www.youtube.com
[23:37:45] <CaptHindsight> a cannuck and halfs worth
[23:37:47] <flyback> $50 mill
[23:40:40] <flyback> I hate retards who replace the cnc soun ds with some idiot song track no one heard of
[23:40:42] <flyback> I WANT TO
[23:40:44] <flyback> STAB
[23:40:46] <flyback> STAB
[23:40:47] <flyback> STAB
[23:42:28] <flyback> Lignum Vitae
[23:42:31] <flyback> THAT SHIT IS insane
[23:42:47] <flyback> it's a wood that doesn't rot in water and in fact it reacts with the water to form a lube surface
[23:42:57] <flyback> they use them in old hydro plants and they run for 50+ yrs
[23:43:51] <flyback> they do mill them like any other metal part
[23:44:56] <_unreal_> I cant take it any more I cant stay away
[23:45:09] <flyback> ?
[23:45:21] <flyback> sorry did I distract you?
[23:45:45] <flyback> it's just insane to see this 10 ton monster scary looking mothercanucker hydro turbine steel shaft
[23:45:55] <flyback> riding on what looks like a grooved 2x4
[23:47:06] <flyback> they use them for some shaft prop shafts also
[23:47:13] <flyback> shaft/ship
[23:48:16] <_unreal_> falling asleep
[23:48:22] <_unreal_> its midnight later
[23:48:23] <flyback> oh go slee[
[23:48:27] <flyback> here too
[23:48:28] <flyback> pa
[23:49:04] <CaptHindsight> many many moons ago I heard the story of the cannuckining