#linuxcnc | Logs for 2018-09-13

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[00:41:21] <fragalot> hi.
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[01:27:04] <miss0r2> mornin'
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[02:54:53] <Deejay> moin
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[05:59:12] <fragalot> 'ello
[06:05:34] <jthornton> morning
[06:18:09] <Tom_itx> morning
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[06:24:51] <jthornton> dang firefox updated gotta reboot now
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[06:27:22] <XXCoder> gonna love updates
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[06:30:16] <XXCoder> wb
[06:31:50] <jthornton> crap I left the weather underground page on yesterday
[06:32:08] <jthornton> it used up .4GB I think
[06:33:29] <jthornton> the weekend looks nice for the Spyder Palooza ride
[06:34:37] <XXCoder> I wonder if theres POTS isp there at your location
[06:34:52] <jthornton> what's that?
[06:35:04] <XXCoder> plain old telephone system
[06:35:29] <XXCoder> of course issue with that ios you need hardline phone first. which is quite expensive now
[06:35:47] <jthornton> yea no hard line anymore
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[06:40:29] <XXCoder> heh I wouldnt live anywhere remote enough npot to have high speed unlimited bandwidth
[06:51:20] * Deejay has fibre :)
[06:59:35] * jthornton has obama fiber 1.6 miles from his house that is not connected to anything
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[07:05:54] <XXCoder> gonna love dark fibers. there is TONS around usa, and most of em opredate obama
[07:06:13] <XXCoder> there was nice goverment program to add lots more fibers, and isps added em
[07:06:18] <XXCoder> they refused to use em though
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[07:07:09] <jthornton> yea they ran fiber along a lot of roads in Missouri
[07:11:13] <XXCoder> fun. too bad they seem to refuse to use em
[07:11:37] <XXCoder> that would solve any bandwith issues easily! it would have lowered high bandwidth prices by a lot so probably why,.
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[07:25:45] <Deejay> hm
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[07:29:29] <XXCoder> man. https://earth.nullschool.net
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[07:53:56] <Loetmichel> XXCoder:... and then there are german companys that first hit a main natural gas pipe with their "earth rocket" while putting empty tubes for glass fibre in the ground and then need one year to fix all the fibre joints in the city because they used a wrong glue the first time making those joints and THEN have to pull 4 times a 4 fibre bundle into the tube to our country to have finally ONE
[07:53:56] <Loetmichel> of the 4 fibres working and not broken...
[07:54:14] <Loetmichel> ... to work with pros for once!
[07:54:45] <XXCoder> hey only difference between newbies and pros is pros make bigger issues! lol
[07:57:06] <Loetmichel> my look when the annoyed man from the utility rang at the company door and said "we have to switch off the gas for a few days, some idiot of the internet company managed to penetrate the main gas pipe with his earth rocket..." ... priceless :-)
[07:57:25] <XXCoder> lol
[07:57:41] <XXCoder> earth rocket sounds so awesome I don't wanna know what real one does.
[07:57:43] <XXCoder> ;)
[07:58:53] <XXCoder> wow off I go to bed. time to dream of earth rocket
[07:59:19] <Loetmichel> its a horizontal ram that can pull a 1" plastc tube about 300ft thru the dirt without digging
[07:59:46] <Loetmichel> sounds like those "pillar rams" you hear sometimes and works similarily
[08:00:45] <Loetmichel> long hygraulic cylinder with a hardened steel tip, behind it a big weight in the cylinder that gets rammed hydraulically into the ti´p about twice a second to drive it forward
[08:01:03] <Loetmichel> and it pulls hydraulic lines and the plastic tube behind it
[08:02:40] <Loetmichel> you basically dig a hole to the right depth, insert the ram horizntally, start the hydraulics, guide it into the dirt and dig a second hole up to 300 ft away and hope it emerges there
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[08:31:00] <jthornton> morning
[08:31:08] <jthornton> ok got hexchat working lol
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[09:16:15] <miss0r> mornin jt
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[09:42:31] <henn1nk> hello all. i am trying to write some ngc routines.. but linuxcnc says, that it can't find #<_ini[tool_change]z>.. any idea why? my ini file: https://github.com and the routine: https://github.com
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[09:51:56] <jthornton> henn1nk: what version of LinuxCNC are you using?
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[09:52:12] <henn1nk> jthornton: scratch
[09:52:48] <jthornton> 2.7 or 2.8 (master)?
[09:53:11] <henn1nk> 2.8.8
[09:53:22] <henn1nk> 2.8.8*
[09:53:26] <henn1nk> 2.8.0*
[09:53:55] <henn1nk> 2.8.0-pre1 to be exact :)
[09:54:03] <jthornton> I don't see #<_ini in the named parameters list
[09:54:11] <jthornton> http://linuxcnc.org
[09:54:44] <henn1nk> oh
[09:54:50] <henn1nk> so maybe deprecated
[09:55:27] <jthornton> not in 2.7 either
[09:55:45] <henn1nk> i know for example probe_screen is using _ini
[09:55:56] <henn1nk> https://github.com
[09:56:41] <henn1nk> and gmoccappy either: https://github.com
[09:56:43] <henn1nk> :-/
[09:57:13] <jthornton> hmmm I don't have LinuxCNC installed on this pc yet just installed a new OS
[09:58:05] <jthornton> but wait
[09:59:00] <henn1nk> ok
[09:59:01] <jthornton> henn1nk: http://linuxcnc.org
[09:59:18] <jthornton> FEATURES is required for that to work
[09:59:44] <jthornton> http://linuxcnc.org
[10:00:42] <henn1nk> yepp works, thank you!
[10:01:31] <jthornton> yw
[10:02:08] <henn1nk> forgot this on my demo maschine :-)
[10:02:52] * jthornton hopes he can remember to add a link to the system parameters section for this
[10:03:56] <henn1nk> yeah would be great :)
[10:04:10] <henn1nk> have to leave, thank you again
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[10:04:22] <jthornton> your welcome
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[10:23:20] <pcw_home> Largest airplane in the world left Oakland today (its been there a couple of days)
[10:23:42] <pcw_home> Antonov 225 (only 1 exists)
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[10:57:44] <Tom_itx> the dreamlifter is pretty amazing
[10:58:15] <sync> pcw_home: yeah the thing is hueg
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[10:58:20] <sync> I've seen it a few times
[10:58:26] <sync> and its little sisters
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[11:00:01] <Tom_L> few places those can go
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[11:02:35] <sync> well, basically being a .mil transporter for bad strips they can go almost anywhere
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[11:23:14] <JT-Shop> there's 1 1/2 Antonov 225s
[11:23:28] <JT-Shop> https://www.cnn.com
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[11:24:11] <Tom_L> saw the dreamlifter at the airshow over the weekend. they wouldn't let us inside though
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[12:08:59] <robotustra> afternoon
[12:09:25] <robotustra> have a question, anybody used linuxcncrsh?
[12:10:08] <robotustra> is it possible to get a RPMs of spindle which were set by S command?
[12:10:38] <robotustra> I cen get only spindle override
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[12:13:02] * robotustra works on cnc layout https://imgur.com
[12:13:25] <robotustra> do I need DTG button at all?
[12:16:23] <Tom_L> i've got spindle speed displayed on mine
[12:17:06] <robotustra> how do you get it?
[12:17:26] <robotustra> is it possible to get it on simulator?
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[12:18:23] <JT-Shop> the only mention in the docs is "linuxcncrsh - a telnet based user interface which allows commands to be sent to LinuxCNC from remote computers"
[12:19:55] <Tom_L> motion.spindle-speed-out
[12:20:00] <JT-Shop> hmm linuxcncrsh does have a man page
[12:20:03] <robotustra> I use linuxcncrsh to control lcnc machine from my gui, but this rsh permit to get spindle override only
[12:20:08] <robotustra> it has
[12:20:20] <robotustra> http://linuxcnc.org
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[12:21:20] <JT-Shop> man page says "All features of LinuxCNC are available via the linuxcncrsh interface"
[12:21:24] <robotustra> I attached already 40% of my gui to lcnc and can do some stuff already
[12:22:03] <robotustra> now will work on opengl view
[12:22:31] <robotustra> to view the path
[12:23:28] <robotustra> I can run my gui in parallel with axis or gmoccapy
[12:24:31] <robotustra> have to do gl view
[12:24:59] <JT-Shop> it's Saturday here so nap time for me
[12:25:07] <robotustra> haha
[12:25:32] <robotustra> it's sunday at my place
[12:27:19] <robotustra> I have like 3 sundays at row
[12:27:25] <beachbumpete1> What planets are you on its Thursday on mine ;)
[12:28:34] <robotustra> thursday also can be a sunday
[12:30:29] <robotustra> Tom_L, what gui do you use and how do you attach this pin?
[12:30:40] <robotustra> .hal?
[12:30:55] <Tom_L> axis
[12:31:56] <Tom_L> net spindle-vel-cmd motion.spindle-speed-out => abs.0.in pid.0.command
[12:31:59] <robotustra> do you read encoder or set value by S command?
[12:32:04] <Tom_L> it does several things
[12:32:07] <Tom_L> encoder
[12:32:11] <robotustra> ok
[12:36:02] <gregcnc> https://youtu.be
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[12:59:44] <Rab> Anybody followed the Defense Distributed/Ghost Gunner drama of the past few years?
[13:00:58] <Rab> I'm not super into guns (and 3D printed guns seem like a joke), but I'm fascinated by how they seem to have productized a 3D mill, in the USA, for a $1200 price point.
[13:01:23] <Rab> (Even if its work envelope is limited to an AR lower.)
[13:02:26] <Rab> And most of all I'm fascinated by the little belt-driven ER spindle in these pix: https://www.freedomsphoenix.com
[13:02:56] <Rab> Seems like it's commodity chinesium, and it must be for the price, but I haven't seen that particular thing before.
[13:03:18] <Rab> I guess I could email the dude and get put on a watchlist.
[13:10:05] <robotustra> what's the point to build cnc dedicated to AR production?
[13:10:49] <Rab> Weapons proliferation, I believe.
[13:11:22] <robotustra> for what?
[13:11:34] <Rab> It uses gcode or 3D printed tracing jigs, so it can machine other stuff too...1911 lowers I believe.
[13:11:42] <robotustra> the weapon is freely sold in US
[13:12:20] <robotustra> Rab, did you ever hold in hands lower receiver of 1911?
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[13:12:26] <Rab> I believe it's a challenge to free speech, copyright, and gun control laws...I don't fully understand the rationale.
[13:12:38] <Rab> robotustra, never.
[13:12:44] <robotustra> I did
[13:12:57] <robotustra> do you know how they are produced?
[13:13:03] <Rab> Casting?
[13:13:11] <robotustra> yes
[13:13:18] <robotustra> mine is
[13:13:49] <robotustra> as well as many parts like trigger, disconnector, hummer, etc
[13:14:00] <robotustra> it's much cheaper to cast than to mill
[13:14:23] <Rab> There's a market in USA for partial lowers. A finished lower is considered a gun and requires a serial number, an unfinished lower is just a piece of metal and easier to buy/sell.
[13:14:41] <robotustra> I see the only point to produce guns - if you are inventor and designing a prototype weapon
[13:14:54] <robotustra> I know anout 80% lowers
[13:15:03] <Rab> So people will buy "80%" finished lowers and mill the final features, which the Ghost Gunner is intended to facilitate.
[13:15:36] <robotustra> another question
[13:15:51] <robotustra> can you shoot this ghost gun freely?
[13:15:57] <Rab> They claimed to be able to mill complete lowers from aluminum stock, but they're using 1/8" tooling and I guess that would be a time-consuming and failure-prone process.
[13:16:34] <Rab> I believe so, subject to the restrictions of your municipality, but I don't know for sure.
[13:16:47] <robotustra> no, 1/8 is fast enough even to mill large pockets
[13:17:13] <robotustra> let's say I want to shoot my ghost gun
[13:17:27] <robotustra> can I go and buy ammo without licence?
[13:17:46] <robotustra> I doubt so
[13:18:18] <robotustra> in canada you can't buy ammo without permition, so the ghost gun will be useless
[13:18:23] <Rab> But not very deep pockets, unless you have a lot of stick-out which makes the tool fragile.
[13:18:46] <robotustra> how many guns do you need?
[13:19:11] <robotustra> 1? 2?
[13:19:13] <robotustra> 10?
[13:19:22] <Rab> robotustra, no license here: http://lawcenter.giffords.org
[13:19:34] <robotustra> what do you need a gun?
[13:19:39] <Rab> robotustra, I need 0 guns, and I'm not making an argument for the existence of the Ghost Gunner.
[13:19:47] <robotustra> texas is not a whole US
[13:21:24] <Rab> But if you're alarmed by its existance, then I think it's done its job. The point seems to be provocation.
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[13:25:25] <gregcnc> provocation?
[13:25:28] <robotustra> Are you alarmed by existance of guns?
[13:26:15] <Rab> robotustra, no.
[13:27:06] <robotustra> well, I think gun topic is closed
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[13:28:10] <Rab> Good job opening and closing that topic. My intent was to discuss the particulars of the CNC machine.
[13:28:25] <robotustra> :)
[13:28:43] <robotustra> I mean the gun topic is good for #guns channel
[13:29:25] <robotustra> I also like to talk about guns, but it's a specific subject for canada, because it's much different from usa
[13:29:35] <robotustra> in laws and regulations
[13:30:20] <robotustra> Rab, do you want to make AR lower on custom build cnc machine?
[13:31:15] <Rab> robotustra, negative.
[13:31:30] <robotustra> do you have cnc machine?
[13:31:35] <Rab> robotustra, affirmative.
[13:31:44] <robotustra> custom built?
[13:31:47] <Rab> robotustra, affirmative.
[13:31:57] <robotustra> what controller do you use on it?
[13:32:03] <robotustra> SW
[13:32:05] <gregcnc> what's interesting about the spindle?
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[13:32:29] <robotustra> Rab, lcnc?
[13:32:36] <Rab> I'm embarassed to admit that I use a very old version of FlashCut CNC, because it matches the hardware controller I have.
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[13:33:18] <robotustra> ok, so you want to upgrade it to something newer?
[13:33:48] <robotustra> Rab, it means that you build your machine long time ago?
[13:33:49] <Rab> gregcnc, it's surely cheaper than a motorized spindle, and one would be able to use a variety of motors. If it's available, I'd be interested in buying one.
[13:34:20] <Rab> robotustra, I do want to build a new machine, although the current machine (and FlashCut) are working well.
[13:34:33] <robotustra> good
[13:34:44] <robotustra> I'm building new machine too
[13:35:39] <Rab> gregcnc, I've already built a belt-driven ER11 spindle, but partly because I didn't know of one available for purchase (for cheap).
[13:35:51] <gregcnc> sounds like the current spindle was an upgrade so you can probably buy one
[13:35:59] <Rab> I'm about to build a bigger one with a brushless electric chainsaw motor.
[13:36:39] <Rab> Probably ER16.
[13:36:44] <gregcnc> ER11
[13:37:05] <robotustra> I have 1.5kW chinesium spindle with ER11 and VFD
[13:37:18] <robotustra> works ok for me
[13:38:08] <robotustra> max diameter shank is 7mm, but my main cutter is 1/8"
[13:38:09] <Rab> robotustra, those work for a lot of people, but I'm reluctant to spend the money. Some of them are really poorly-made and you can't exactly send them back.
[13:38:41] <robotustra> what's your budget?
[13:38:51] <robotustra> do you count your manufacturing time?
[13:38:57] <Rab> robotustra, as low as possible, just for fun.
[13:39:08] <robotustra> vfd+spindle ~ 300$
[13:39:49] <Rab> I do production for profit on my current machine, so it would pay off, but minimal budget is a neat optimization constraint.
[13:39:58] <gregcnc> I think Taig and Sherline have ER16 spindles
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[13:43:44] <gregcnc> https://www.sherline.com
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[14:05:12] <fragalot> miss0r|office: this thing is the most frustrating thing in the world. https://photos.app.goo.gl
[14:07:08] <fragalot> miss0r|office: also, I meant to send this one first :P https://photos.app.goo.gl
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[14:30:23] <gloops> 10000 lines left to finish this cut
[14:31:33] <gregcnc> what caused the lost steps yesterday?
[14:31:52] <gloops> junk catching cables
[14:32:19] <gloops> well, im assuming thats what it was, no repeat since i moved the junk
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[14:35:44] <gloops> had the great idea of using under the table for storage, last week i was working on a vertical surface to be fitted to the machine frame underneath
[14:36:19] <gloops> of course - threw a load of boxes of junk to the back to get access - was all piled up were cables drag
[14:37:31] <gregcnc> time for some cable chains
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[14:45:20] <diverdude> Hi, i have 2 stepper motors driving a table in X and Y direction. I am trying to write a homing routine based on 2 switches. It seems to work nicely, however when i have reached the 2 switces i want to go a few steps back to let go of the switches again. This seems to fail. For some reason when i set the motors to go in opposite direction they dont move at all. What am I doing wrong? Here is my small routine: https://paste.ubuntu.c
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[14:46:52] <diverdude> https://paste.ubuntu.com
[14:47:57] <Tom_L> diverdude check my config. i do the same thing for homing
[14:47:58] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[14:48:06] <Tom_L> .ini
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[15:04:17] <Rab> https://www.youtube.com
[15:04:34] <Rab> I can only assume the motor's for testing.
[15:05:31] <fragalot> love the banana jacks in that screw connection thing
[15:06:27] <Rab> It's interesting that some of these DIY spindles are so short and stubby. I guess the design was bounded by the 100mm or 150mm length of the ER32 tool holder. It seems like a longer spindle would have less radial play at the end of the tool.
[15:07:37] <gregcnc> most smaller spindles have a back to back bearing pair right at the nose
[15:08:48] <gregcnc> at ER32 size i'd just go for BT30
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[15:33:28] <miss0r|office> fragalot: haha
[15:33:52] <miss0r|office> fragalot: but it looks like you nailed it ;)
[15:34:09] <fragalot> eventually
[15:34:13] <miss0r|office> I am having some strange issues of my own. I haven't played around with linux for a long time.
[15:34:36] <miss0r|office> One thing that is pissing me off at the moment, is the implementation of systemd, to handle startup scripts ect.
[15:34:48] <miss0r|office> I simply _cannot_ make it run my touchscreen driver script at boot.
[15:35:01] <fragalot> :/
[15:35:05] <miss0r|office> when the machine is started, I can do a 'service touchscreen start' and it works perfectly.
[15:35:15] <miss0r|office> But I cannot for the life of me figure out what I am doing wrong :D
[15:35:25] <miss0r|office> I have been looking at it sinde 19:30 or something like that
[15:35:39] <fragalot> missing dependency on boot?
[15:35:43] <miss0r|office> two hours of trying to auto load a script, will make anyone mad :D
[15:36:00] <miss0r|office> Doubtfull. I have tried all runlevels
[15:36:01] <JT-Shop> yea that kind of stuff can drive you nuts
[15:36:01] <Jin^eLD> miss0r: *hint* man chkconfig for non systemd services
[15:36:39] <JT-Shop> hmmm my raspberry pi I had to add a service to run my script at boot up that controls the chicken coop
[15:36:54] <miss0r|office> Jin^eLD: ha.. yeah :)
[15:40:03] <miss0r|office> apparently chkconfig is not standard on the debian stretch
[15:40:18] <Jin^eLD> doh..
[15:40:32] <miss0r|office> its this new systemd stuff.
[15:40:37] <Jin^eLD> debian... hmm.. update-rc.d ?
[15:40:50] <Jin^eLD> systemd should provide init compatibility for legacy stuff
[15:41:00] <Jin^eLD> or work along with it side by side if needed
[15:41:01] <miss0r|office> last time I did anything with debian I could just add my executable script to /etc/init.d/ and run update-rc.d [name] defaults
[15:41:04] <miss0r|office> and all would be well
[15:41:06] <Jin^eLD> but yeah, for debian its update-rc.d I think
[15:41:21] <miss0r|office> now - not so much
[15:41:44] <miss0r|office> I mean, update-rc.d is there - it is used by systemd. But adding it as such, does not make it execute at startup, apparently
[15:42:57] <gloops> keeping her indoors off my back https://www.youtube.com
[15:43:20] <Jin^eLD> well, worst case you could write your own system.d module, I never did that but I think it should not be a too big deal for shell scripts
[15:43:57] <miss0r|office> Its not.. But it is about 6x more comlicated(annoying) than just using 'ye oldie method
[15:44:09] <JT-Shop> miss0r|office: what version of debian?
[15:44:20] <miss0r|office> jt-shop: Debian stretch
[15:46:01] <JT-Shop> https://ritsch.io
[15:46:17] <Jin^eLD> miss0r: well that of course, I hate systemd as well, but what can one do...
[15:48:13] <miss0r|office> JT-Shop: well. Theres no rc.local file 'out'a the box' in debian stretch
[15:48:19] <JT-Shop> https://absolute.hosting
[15:48:21] <miss0r|office> I'd need to add it to systemd firstly
[15:48:22] <JT-Shop> a better one
[15:48:41] <JT-Shop> this cat knows that rc.local is not there by default
[15:48:50] <miss0r|office> so it would seem
[15:48:58] <JT-Shop> what a pia lol
[15:50:32] <JT-Shop> that last page is similar to what I had to do on the raspberry pi
[16:02:56] <miss0r|office> That was the solution. :)
[16:03:14] <miss0r|office> Next step: mount it all in a case, and get going on the mesa config :]
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[16:14:57] <miss0r|office> I'm off. Have a good one
[16:15:25] <XXCoder> het JT-Shop did you solve that axis and axes thing?
[16:23:53] <robotustra> what is rs274?
[16:24:09] <Rab> robotustra, g-code.
[16:24:37] <Roguish> https://ws680.nist.gov
[16:24:56] <Rab> With a few differences relevant to LinuxCNC, it appears: http://linuxcnc.org
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[16:27:43] <robotustra> it looks like lcnc gcode interpreter understands parameters?
[16:27:59] <robotustra> and python input
[16:28:00] <robotustra> ?
[16:29:18] <robotustra> can somebody tell me how linuxcnc spells to opengl window?
[16:31:13] <robotustra> it looks like interpreter loads the g-code file and does it draw opengl widget directly?
[16:31:47] <JT-Shop> XXCoder: yes
[16:32:02] <XXCoder> awesome. whats you do? :)
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[16:32:43] <JT-Shop> http://dpaste.com
[16:33:31] <JT-Shop> the format specifier should have been #011b
[16:33:43] <JT-Shop> so the last row lined up
[16:34:17] <XXCoder> man thats very short code. youre god
[16:34:34] <XXCoder> just do a quick bit walk
[16:35:14] <JT-Shop> hazzy: figured it out then I added the print so one could understand what was going on under the hood
[16:36:02] <XXCoder> you probably could unroll the loop
[16:36:09] <XXCoder> so it has big O of 1
[16:36:38] <JT-Shop> how's that?
[16:39:08] <XXCoder> http://dpaste.com
[16:39:34] <XXCoder> its good thing to do if it gets called a LOT.
[16:39:42] <XXCoder> otherwise not really worth it
[16:41:04] <fragalot> XXCoder: what you want to do is use the native assembly instructions to do that task for you.
[16:41:18] <XXCoder> fun with asm for all!
[16:43:28] <XXCoder> honestly smart compilers does unroll if its small enough fixed integer loops
[16:43:35] <XXCoder> but python no idea
[16:43:40] <XXCoder> anyway off to work I go
[16:43:46] <XXCoder> JT-Shop: congats though :)
[16:43:47] <fragalot> python typically doesn't
[16:43:53] <fragalot> and is terrible with loops in terms of speed
[16:44:06] <fragalot> even worse if you print in them
[16:44:16] <XXCoder> ecch. laters :)
[16:45:20] <JT-Shop> there is 9 axes so how is that better?
[16:45:42] <JT-Shop> have fun at work
[16:45:52] <fragalot> if it is something you do A LOT at a high frequency, it could be faster to use 9 if statements than a single loop
[16:46:26] <fragalot> (note: COULD. depends on many other factors to say at which point it becomes faster or slower)
[16:46:41] <JT-Shop> ah ok, in this case it matters not one whit it's only executed once on start up but thanks for the info I'll remember that for sure
[16:47:06] <fragalot> yea no point in going bonkers optimising for speed there :)
[16:47:06] <JT-Shop> I prefer short easy to read code when I can
[16:47:10] <robotustra> if you are doing something at high frequency it's better not to yse python
[16:47:12] <fragalot> agreed.
[16:47:14] <robotustra> use*
[16:47:17] <fragalot> robotustra: xD
[16:47:35] <JT-Shop> yea the dxf to g code I used golang and it's pretty fast
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[16:49:58] <robotustra> if I'm going to use my gui remotely probably I have to built in rs274 interpreter in it...
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[16:59:32] <Deejay> gn8
[16:59:59] <robotustra> gn9
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[17:03:36] <robotustra> does linuxcnc support canonical interface?
[17:05:08] <robotustra> is any modern CAM can export canonical g-code?
[17:07:14] <JT-Shop> aww they are gone if you read back axes = [(i) for i in range(9)if mask & (1<<i)]
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[17:27:58] <robotustra> https://imgur.com
[17:29:04] <gregcnc> https://imgur.com
[17:29:11] <zeeshan> hi
[17:29:20] <zeeshan> hope you guys near the coast are bracing@!
[17:29:39] <gregcnc> zee is that big llathe still a lump in the garage?
[17:29:45] <zeeshan> yes
[17:29:52] <zeeshan> planning to work on it soon
[17:29:54] <zeeshan> winter project
[17:30:00] <zeeshan> i got a bunch of parts for it
[17:30:24] <zeeshan> i'm going to be using the yaskawa sigma 7 drives on it
[17:31:54] <zeeshan> whats new with you
[17:33:55] <gregcnc> not much, making some parts
[17:34:03] <zeeshan> pix
[17:35:56] <JT-Shop> hey zeeshan
[17:35:59] <zeeshan> my milling machine finally died off
[17:36:24] <zeeshan> it wont release tools cause it's pissing fluid out of the horizontal spindles' clamping unit
[17:36:25] <zeeshan> hi jt
[17:36:37] <zeeshan> so i'm now trying to figure out how to pull the horizontal spindle :)
[17:36:39] <gregcnc> oh no
[17:36:51] <JT-Shop> needs some TLC
[17:37:02] <zeeshan> https://i.ebayimg.com
[17:37:09] <zeeshan> i think the thing on the left is the clamping unit
[17:37:18] <zeeshan> looks quite different from the vertical clamping unit that i rebuilt a while back
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[17:54:54] <zeeshan> https://photos.app.goo.gl
[17:55:01] <zeeshan> i removed the 6 bolts
[17:55:07] <zeeshan> its not clear how this thing comes out lol
[17:55:12] <zeeshan> i've never pulled a horizontal spindle before!
[17:55:27] <zeeshan> https://photos.app.goo.gl
[17:55:33] <zeeshan> looks like there is a plate to access the gear train
[17:55:56] <gregcnc> no exploder views?
[17:56:01] <zeeshan> nope
[17:56:07] <zeeshan> never had manuals for this thing
[17:56:08] <Loetmichel> maaan, thats a "for the looks" scraping if i ever have seen one...
[17:56:17] <Loetmichel> to your problem: probably from behind
[17:57:01] <zeeshan> i figure most horizontal spindles come out in a similar way?
[17:57:06] <zeeshan> https://i.ebayimg.com
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[17:57:21] <zeeshan> i don't see what keeps this whole spindle housing in axially
[17:58:56] <gregcnc> i forget what machine that is
[18:01:05] <zeeshan> mikron wf21c
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[18:02:21] <zeeshan> andypugh: nice job on the high speed spindle
[18:02:37] <andypugh> Thanks
[18:05:06] <zeeshan> i'll never buy another machine without manuals again!
[18:05:13] <zeeshan> makes it such a pain in the ass.
[18:13:31] <_unreal_> damn!!! screwed up one of my orderes from amazon. I got an hdmi to 90 degree mini hdmi not hdmi to 90 degree hdmi cable #$@#$
[18:13:39] <_unreal_> just ordered the correct adapter.
[18:14:04] <_unreal_> sucks faster to order the right plug end then it is to deal with a return
[18:14:13] <_unreal_> luckly its only $6
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[18:50:19] <rene_dev_> andypugh you have a lathe in the living room, I now have a drillpress in the kitchen.
[18:50:46] <andypugh> Perfect for coring apples.
[18:50:49] <rene_dev_> however, I also have a pick and place machine in the kitchen.
[18:50:58] <rene_dev_> its in pieces, in the ultrasound
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[18:58:26] <_unreal_> rene-dev, and you are also single
[19:00:37] <skunkworks> andypugh: awesome video..
[19:00:57] <skunkworks> andypugh: how come you don't use the touch probe?
[19:01:06] <Rab> Anybody have a favored technique for determining the resonant frequency of a machine?
[19:01:18] <skunkworks> big hammer?
[19:01:26] <skunkworks> ;)
[19:01:28] <andypugh> The touch probe (at the time) wasn’t compatible with the drawbar of the horizontal spindle
[19:01:35] <skunkworks> ah
[19:01:49] * skunkworks couldn't live without his touch probe...
[19:02:16] <andypugh> I found 10 Zeiss touch probes in a skip recently, I now have one for each spindle.
[19:02:35] <skunkworks> nice skip...
[19:08:02] <andypugh> I was a bit surprised.
[19:14:34] <rene_dev_> andypugh why cant I find your external offset lathe video?
[19:14:45] <rene_dev_> I want to try that on my lathe, its working now.
[19:15:18] <rene_dev_> _unreal_ I am now, yes.
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[19:15:24] <andypugh> https://www.youtube.com
[19:21:15] <skunkworks> re-assembling.. http://electronicsam.com
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[19:35:22] <_unreal_> call it a hunch
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[19:37:29] <_unreal_> My goal for tonight, try to get the sla7024...... wtf why didnt any one tell me I should have drilled holes and mounted that PSU to the LCD BACK back mount panel first
[19:38:18] <_unreal_> skunkworks, where you cleaning?
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[19:53:00] <skunkworks> _unreal_: lots of lining stuff up correctly
[19:53:19] <skunkworks> the ballscrews where so far out of parallel it was scary
[19:54:15] <skunkworks> and added a z column spacer
[19:54:42] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com
[19:57:18] <skunkworks> rerunning oil lines.. (no flow regulators/one way valves)
[19:57:55] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com
[19:58:05] <skunkworks> keeps me out of trouble
[19:58:24] <Roguish> skunkworks: what is the basic machine make/model?
[20:01:25] <skunkworks> Roguish: it is basically a prototype of the tormach 440
[20:02:00] <Roguish> how'd you end up with thata?
[20:02:07] <skunkworks> http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net(SMP)?highlight=small+mill+project
[20:02:17] <skunkworks> Roguish: for some work I did..
[20:02:46] <skunkworks> needless to say - they didn't go with this supplier.. :)
[20:03:02] <skunkworks> it will be a solid machine when done. just needed a bit of tlc
[20:03:22] <Roguish> looks nice and stout. like it.
[20:04:36] <skunkworks> the sliding surfaces all seem great
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[22:34:20] <_unreal_> There and with that 90% of my computer for my cnc machine has been put together
[22:34:33] <_unreal_> funny how its just a touch screen and tinker boared
[22:34:34] <_unreal_> board
[22:35:02] <_unreal_> I just finished loading most of the wires to it. except for the one that I'm waiting on the replacement cable. My stupid :(
[22:35:11] <_unreal_> Then I can plug the video in
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[22:58:02] <_unreal_> https://www.youtube.com
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