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[00:58:26] <CaptHindsight> By default, the charge pump feature is turned on, with the “Pulse Switch” (next to the DB25 connector) set to the “Off” position (means “Charge Pump” on).
[00:59:06] <CaptHindsight> http://www.leadshineusa.com Page 11
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[02:51:12] <Deejay> moin
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[03:03:02] <Loetmichel> hmm... got two I5-7500 boxes here yesterday back from the CE test... 80W(125W peak) PicoPSU literally exploded when they first did "stress -c10" on linux mint. I have no put in a 125W(150W) PicoPSU... stress -c 10 ... runs... but the Lab PSU says "24V 2.1A load"... and thats a 65W TDP cpu... HOW?
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[03:16:04] <CaptHindsight> bad supply
[03:17:16] <CaptHindsight> what does the rating really mean?
[03:20:59] <Loetmichel> so, just put ice spray to the heatsink... NOW it draws 2.6 amps... still not enough... but why does the /"§$/&% fan doesent spin up???
[03:22:43] <rmu> Loetmichel: you need proper load for cpu to max out TDP
[03:23:42] <Loetmichel> the "stress" command should place that on the CPU
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[03:25:28] <rmu> not necessarily. you need to load the proper mix of different parts of the cpu
[03:25:34] <pink_vampire> hi
[03:25:35] <rmu> heavily depending on CPU
[03:27:05] <sensille> also the cpu might get clocked down when it gets too hot
[03:28:11] <rmu> i used to use setiathome for burn in and linux kernel compiles to test memory and disk
[03:29:24] <sensille> i wonder if even the manufacturer knows how to max out the cpu
[03:29:31] <Loetmichel> sensille: indeed
[03:29:33] <Loetmichel> thats my guess
[03:29:49] <Loetmichel> sensors says it sits at 76 tp 78°C
[03:30:32] <CaptHindsight> run windows without a firewall
[03:30:45] <sensille> :)
[03:31:21] <sensille> surely that how they test at intel, too
[03:32:27] <rmu> you can be sure that intel and amd use specific methods to test each "hot path" for each CPU
[03:33:04] <rmu> and there is more than one temperature sensore on the die
[03:33:09] <sensille> yes, but how to get max utilization?
[03:33:27] <sensille> that's an idle exercise anyway
[03:34:37] <rmu> that is an expensive optimization problem with unknown (to the ignorant public) dimensions and diminishing
[03:35:53] <rmu> e.g. going AVX2 -> AVX-512 is not necessarily a win
[03:37:17] <sensille> the question is how to charge as many lines as possible with each clock
[03:37:23] <rmu> sensille: https://www.agner.org
[03:38:01] <sensille> oh, i know that blog
[03:38:32] <rmu> ;)
[03:38:45] <sensille> but the problem at hand is not how to get the best performace, but how to get the chip as hot as possible
[03:38:53] <sensille> no one needs that ;)
[03:41:01] <CaptHindsight> Prime95 with AVX and Small FFTs, powerMAX, or AIDA64’s Stress FPU
[03:42:32] <CaptHindsight> https://wiki.archlinux.org
[03:43:23] <CaptHindsight> linpack is used for comparing supercomputers
[03:43:29] <CaptHindsight> and clusters
[03:45:56] <CaptHindsight> https://downloadcenter.intel.com
[03:46:31] <sensille> master of googling
[03:47:17] <CaptHindsight> takes one to know one :)
[03:48:19] <CaptHindsight> try using one of the fur rendering tests on just the cpu
[03:50:27] <sensille> have still to read your cat-article yet
[03:50:46] <sensille> do you know the book 'our mathematical universe'?
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[03:58:58] <CaptHindsight> https://en.wikipedia.org
[04:00:25] <sensille> it's fun to read
[04:01:00] <CaptHindsight> 3:00 here, till later......
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[06:05:35] <Loetmichel> soo, got the system running... 23.5V 2.3A is a bit low though for an I5-7500 under full load... strange, but i am not complaining... as long as the Picopsu doesent explode i am fine ;) -> http://www.cyrom.org (scroll down for details, and yes, i should clean up my desk ;)
[06:51:15] <jthornton> morning
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[07:01:47] <slipalong> hello
[07:01:56] <slipalong> Anyone there?
[07:02:10] <XXCoder> nah nobody here
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[07:02:43] <slipalong> Sorry just getting IRC working on a new machine, had to register NickServ
[07:03:02] <XXCoder> yeah freenode had awful bots attacks
[07:03:03] <slipalong> Don't remember dong that last time??
[07:03:13] <XXCoder> so most if not all channels is now register required
[07:03:15] <slipalong> Fair enough
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[07:04:04] <slipalong> Is that why there are so few logged in do you think.
[07:04:25] <slipalong> Havent been on here for a couple of months and it used to be quire busy
[07:05:07] <XXCoder> nah its 4 am here
[07:05:10] <XXCoder> its very early
[07:05:24] <slipalong> Ah ok!
[07:05:31] <XXCoder> usually quiet at this time, though sometimes chattu
[07:05:50] <XXCoder> in a hour or 2 it will be again, sometimes
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[09:14:46] <Jin^eLD> hi
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[09:17:37] <slipalong> hello
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[11:57:06] <miss0r> 'evening
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[12:24:49] <fragalot> hi
[12:25:01] <sensille> hey
[12:26:29] <syyl> ho
[12:27:40] * fragalot is trying to work out how to add a Z way cover to the schaublin
[12:28:06] <syyl> i would just go with a wide leather cover
[12:28:13] <syyl> hanging over the front of the z-ways
[12:28:26] <fragalot> i've done that now but it gets in the way
[12:28:33] <fragalot> due to how everything moves
[12:29:01] <fragalot> i'm wondering if I could make a telescoping sheet metal ordeal instead
[12:29:09] <syyl> sure!
[12:29:15] <syyl> or look into some bellows
[12:29:23] <syyl> like on a fp1/fp2
[12:35:58] <fragalot> laminated telescoping ordeal it is.
[12:36:20] <fragalot> syyl: if you know where to find those..
[12:37:23] <fragalot> syyl: bearing in mind there is a whopping 10mm between the Z and the back of the vise
[12:38:37] <fragalot> and about 5mm between the Z column and the fixed part of the 'knee'
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[12:44:08] <miss0r> hello fragalot
[12:44:19] <fragalot> Hey miss0r
[12:44:22] <fragalot> I got a package today
[12:44:28] <fragalot> sadly not from GLS
[12:44:36] <miss0r> When you say it that vauge, I didn't even get my hopes up
[12:44:41] <fragalot> xD
[12:44:56] <miss0r> Damn sad to see a tapmatic x50 lost forever
[12:45:04] <fragalot> Yeah...
[12:45:51] <miss0r> I was about to tell you the other day, that he has a few others for sale I could get cheap. But I don't know the brand & you already bought the chuck for the X50...
[12:46:18] <miss0r> plus: I don't trust any shipping company anymore
[12:46:38] <fragalot> i've not (recently) had any issues with DHL
[12:46:42] <fragalot> yet
[12:46:56] <miss0r> fragalot: Make your company hire me for something stupid & fast, so someone pays for the roadtrip down there. Then I will find and bring you another one :D
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[12:47:06] <fragalot> xD
[12:47:18] <fragalot> we DO need technicians to cover for someone that's fallen ill
[12:47:33] <fragalot> but it's multi-day and basically just electrical & plumbing assmbly
[12:47:50] <miss0r> how multi day? :D
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[12:48:04] <miss0r> I guess two is also multi? :)
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[12:48:18] <fragalot> we're full up all the way through october with orders still pouring in :P
[12:48:45] <miss0r> hehe. Nah, I can't realy abandon my family and customers for too long :D
[12:48:59] <miss0r> plus: chances for them to accept someone from denmark to do it; slim ;)
[12:49:15] <fragalot> that'd depend on your rates
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[12:49:19] <fragalot> so ... non-existant :D
[12:49:34] <miss0r> I mostly just hit stuff with a big club, while I scratch my unibrow (belgian picture of a dain) :)
[12:50:17] <miss0r> apparently, its 'dane' ha...
[12:50:40] <fragalot> whilst you're munching on a carrot, with a beer in one hand and the keg in another
[12:51:02] <miss0r> https://media3.5amily.com <- haha
[12:51:13] <fragalot> miss0r: so anyway
[12:51:18] <fragalot> telescoping sheet metal cover for the Z ways
[12:51:20] <fragalot> yay or nay
[12:51:21] <miss0r> why would I munch carrot if I had beer? :)
[12:51:57] <miss0r> depends.. do you want you pretty schaublin looking like an abomination or do you want to use leather?
[12:52:26] <fragalot> i've got a flap of rubber on there now but it's super annoying with how the axis' all move
[12:52:38] <miss0r> do elaborate
[12:53:37] <fragalot> very long Z travel, not much clearance between column and vise, and Y goes from very close to back to very far forward
[12:54:04] <miss0r> that is why you should leather
[12:54:20] <fragalot> leather would work if it was stretchy
[12:54:35] <fragalot> because otherwise you have 300mm of rubber flopping onto your vise
[12:54:36] <miss0r> you can get "leather" pants that can do that :P
[12:54:42] <fragalot> being dragged sideways as the X moves
[12:55:00] <miss0r> but leather is more foldable than rubber
[12:55:17] <miss0r> don't you think that could fit between the table and the column?
[12:55:28] <fragalot> it would, but it would still get pulled sideways
[12:55:36] <miss0r> hmm....
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[13:01:30] <miss0r> fragalot: do send me a picture
[13:02:02] <fragalot> gimme an hour or so
[13:02:39] <miss0r> long exposure time?
[13:02:41] <miss0r> :P
[13:02:50] <fragalot> :)
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[14:16:09] <fragalot> miss0r: you still around?
[14:16:33] <miss0r> yup
[14:16:39] <miss0r> running back and forth to the cnc, though
[14:16:39] <fragalot> https://photos.app.goo.gl
[14:17:14] <miss0r> Nice :D
[14:17:18] <miss0r> I like all the extras :D
[14:17:29] <miss0r> brb
[14:18:38] <miss0r> That situatuation you have it in is a bit extreme, imo
[14:18:44] <fragalot> sure
[14:18:48] <fragalot> but it should still not jam up
[14:18:57] <miss0r> (the second picture)
[14:19:15] <miss0r> I think you could get away with doing it with some soft leather
[14:19:27] <miss0r> and when you need to do something 'extreme' you can tie it back
[14:19:35] <fragalot> not shown is wat happens when you move the table left & right
[14:19:36] <miss0r> But lets be honnest, that is a very rare situation
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[14:19:40] <miss0r> indeed
[14:20:03] <fragalot> or just up & down.. it's just annoying
[14:20:09] <fragalot> even with leather (yes, I tried)
[14:20:48] <miss0r> hmm.. Don't know of a realy good solution then. I mean, they were not meant to have it from factory :D
[14:20:57] <fragalot> yea :P
[14:20:58] <miss0r> Then you'll need to make an abomination
[14:21:07] <andypugh> I do like the design of those universal milling machines
[14:21:12] <miss0r> perhaps with a steel curtain
[14:21:29] <fragalot> miss0r: either that, or a telescoping sheet steel construction
[14:21:45] <fragalot> a slim version of what is popular on modern machines
[14:22:00] <miss0r> sure
[14:22:07] <miss0r> make one for both Z and Y ?
[14:22:30] <fragalot> Y points away from any chips and the leadscrew has it's own spiral cover
[14:22:45] <fragalot> wait, X does
[14:22:58] <fragalot> Y can't be done
[14:22:59] <gregcnc> why isn't your compressor 2.2kW?
[14:23:24] <fragalot> the Y retracts FULLY so there is nothing to mount any covers on
[14:23:33] <miss0r> sure
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[14:23:50] <fragalot> gregcnc: because it's 2208W
[14:24:13] <miss0r> is the carbide endmill supposed to light up like this? :P
[14:24:19] <gregcnc> are HP ratings common?
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[14:24:31] <fragalot> gregcnc: no, compressors appear to be the exception
[14:24:41] <gregcnc> huh
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[14:26:53] <miss0r> smart move making carbide endmills light up, so you can see in the dark at the bottom of a slot :-/
[14:27:15] <gregcnc> great tip
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[14:27:20] <fragalot> miss0r: I thought you were supposed to use the stream of orange chips to light up the way
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[14:29:45] <fragalot> miss0r: btw, what the hell are these "drive dog" looking things on the center left of this drawer picture for? https://photos.app.goo.gl
[14:29:54] <fragalot> I recognize it from somewhere but I can't quite place it
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[14:30:56] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com DragonFly $300,000 3D PCB Printer Prototype
[14:31:07] <CaptHindsight> only 200 x 200mm boards
[14:31:39] <miss0r> fragalot: They almost look like those loose jaws, you can place on the 'mounting plate' on the lathe. But I realy don't know.
[14:31:51] <miss0r> Lets get syyl in here, I'm sure he'd know
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[14:33:23] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: which has different diëeletrical properties than the final design will
[14:33:31] <gregcnc> wow inkjet printed pcb
[14:33:45] <Tom_L> fragalot not some sort of lathe jaws are they?
[14:33:57] <fragalot> Tom_L: the back side appears to be ground flat
[14:34:21] <fragalot> I mean, they COULd be, but it's a damn strange shape for lathe jaws
[14:34:38] <Tom_L> strange shape for anything i've come across..
[14:34:59] <CaptHindsight> fragalot: theirs is so slow that it can't be used for production
[14:35:32] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: if you're using that tech for production you're doing it wrong anyway
[14:35:38] <CaptHindsight> odd they use layers, guess the software is too hard for them
[14:35:56] <fragalot> the PCB design itself is in layers
[14:35:59] <fragalot> why would you change that
[14:36:03] <CaptHindsight> fragalot: why do you think that?
[14:36:48] <CaptHindsight> the PCB only requires the outer layers where components can be placed
[14:36:50] <fragalot> because you can't reflow it yet
[14:37:10] <Tom_L> fragalot what are all the slotted couplers (spacers) for?
[14:37:14] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: yes and no
[14:37:28] <Tom_L> horizontal mill cutter spacing?
[14:37:36] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: the layers can be used by the engineer to create capacitance for filtering, or for EMI shielding
[14:37:42] <fragalot> Tom_L: yes
[14:38:06] <CaptHindsight> fragalot: been printing circuits with fluids for 10+ years
[14:39:03] <CaptHindsight> my question for their printer is how they will deal with all the patent trolls
[14:40:05] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: is it faster, cheaper or more reliable than the conventional manufacturing methods used for mass manufacturing of PCB's?
[14:40:34] <CaptHindsight> since you're printing the core and traces it can be more like multiwire than layers
[14:41:14] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: that certainly makes it interesting to design for the electronics engineer :D
[14:41:30] <CaptHindsight> not really
[14:41:51] <fragalot> surely they need to be able to spec how that wire is routed
[14:42:05] <CaptHindsight> multiwire has been around for decades
[14:42:13] <fragalot> you can't just willy nilly connect the dots and pray things work for all signals
[14:42:24] <fragalot> ethernet traces or dual ported ram being some examples
[14:43:16] <CaptHindsight> you can control trace and space in 3 dimensions
[14:43:37] <fragalot> i've not really used any software that supports that
[14:44:07] <gregcnc> why does yt want to know who i might vote for?
[14:44:25] <fragalot> gregcnc: because they sell said information
[14:44:30] <fragalot> and they can push the "right" videos to you
[14:44:52] <fragalot> which means you are more likely to view them, which generates more ad revenue if you're not using an ad blocker
[14:45:10] <CaptHindsight> why does a calculator app need my location, contact list and browser history?
[14:45:28] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: location is to determine if it should use "," or ".3
[14:45:33] <fragalot> "." *
[14:45:39] <gregcnc> yeah i wanted to connect a speaker, same thing
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[14:49:08] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com Fontus goes BANKRUPT!
[14:49:18] <CaptHindsight> self filling water bottle
[14:49:29] <fragalot> I would have NEVER expected that :D
[14:50:16] <fragalot> honestly if dave makes a video for every kickstarter that goes bankrupt after the company owners have paid themselves,.. he'd have his own booming YT channel
[14:50:45] <gregcnc> huh they shipped 9 olo printers https://www.kickstarter.com
[14:51:47] <CaptHindsight> they can't make the resin
[14:52:14] <CaptHindsight> for what they promised it would cost
[14:52:38] <CaptHindsight> I was happy they paid me for the sample resin
[14:52:46] <fragalot> lol
[14:54:37] <CaptHindsight> they will probably make some announcement soon about why they we cheated by some Chinese firm
[14:54:59] <CaptHindsight> we/were
[14:55:01] <fragalot> shocking
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[14:57:54] <CaptHindsight> they are experienced scammers
[14:58:21] <CaptHindsight> they always have some story about what account they have to use for payments
[14:58:51] <CaptHindsight> paypal drama and non business shipping addresses
[14:59:24] <MarcelineVQ> Fontus is kind of an amazing study in how gullible people are.
[14:59:32] <CaptHindsight> "we are traveling so can you ship it (some other country with mail forwarder)
[15:00:05] <CaptHindsight> same for US politics
[15:00:14] <MarcelineVQ> As though the idea of a dehumidifier was somehow new, or in any way poorly understood enough that the device could ever meet any of the expectations they set up.
[15:01:39] <fragalot> MarcelineVQ: kickstarter is an amazing study, fontus was just one of the cases. :P
[15:02:20] <Tom_L> it's easier to do a kickstarter than find a backer for your product
[15:02:31] <MarcelineVQ> While there's godd stuff that's come from kickstarter I still would't disagree with your assesment
[15:03:06] <Tom_L> and as usual with that comes the dishonest
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[15:03:56] <fragalot> Tom_L: or the art students putting a product up there with no technical backing :P
[15:03:58] <CaptHindsight> hmm never noticed until now that styrofoam cups leak when holding vinegar
[15:04:09] <CaptHindsight> almost holding
[15:04:37] <Tom_L> seep thru the pores or eat it?
[15:04:46] <CaptHindsight> not sure yet
[15:04:51] <CaptHindsight> took a day
[15:05:20] <Tom_L> they shrink in deep water too
[15:05:43] <CaptHindsight> foam
[15:05:51] <MarcelineVQ> It's definitely a leak, not condensation that smells like the vingegar near it?
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[15:06:08] <CaptHindsight> left a ring of vinegar
[15:06:27] <CaptHindsight> set a fruitfly trap
[15:06:54] <CaptHindsight> cider vinegar, ethanol and soap
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[15:07:30] <CaptHindsight> ethanol = sweet vermouth
[15:08:32] <CaptHindsight> they seem more attracted to breads than alcohol
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[15:10:43] <MarcelineVQ> We just use a paper cone taped to a jar with a piece of fruit in it, as per standard insect practice they go in and don't get out
[15:11:53] <CaptHindsight> picked up a $5 tennis racket electric swatter
[15:12:09] <CaptHindsight> goes zap zap when you get one
[15:12:30] <CaptHindsight> also sends fried bug parts flying all over
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[15:16:30] <MarcelineVQ> haha
[15:20:12] <CaptHindsight> surprised nobody has put up a howto to convert one for killing electronic devices
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[15:30:31] <CaptHindsight> "By default, the charge pump feature is turned on, with the “Pulse Switch” (next to the DB25 connector) set to the “Off” position (means “Charge Pump” on)."
[15:30:45] <CaptHindsight> why of course
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[15:46:34] <miss0r> Today I was out doing some upgrades to a 2011 deckel maho machining center. I had to replace the linear guides for the access h
[15:46:49] <miss0r> robot access hatch. The stuff it was build with was insane!
[15:47:11] <miss0r> The linear guides was something you'd normally see used to hand curtains with
[15:47:12] <syyl> what machine?
[15:47:26] <miss0r> Can't remember exact name. Will be back there tomorrow
[15:47:32] <syyl> :D
[15:47:41] <miss0r> But the one thing that realy blew my mind was the wire pullet mount: https://imgur.com
[15:47:44] <CaptHindsight> t-slot guide
[15:48:03] <CaptHindsight> 10 x 10mm
[15:48:03] <miss0r> I made a replacement. it was already bend out of shape when I got there :D
[15:48:30] <syyl> crashed?
[15:48:37] <miss0r> They had a local guy come in and install it three years ago. and during the past few months they had 10 breakdowns
[15:48:52] <miss0r> syyl: well, the robot hit the access hatch, because it didn't move
[15:48:58] <syyl> well
[15:49:01] <syyl> that sucks :D
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[15:49:04] <miss0r> because, amongst other things, that bracket there was bend
[15:49:15] <syyl> reminds me of the toolchanger of one of our dmgs.
[15:49:28] <syyl> decided to spin the tool-carousell while the spindle was in to pick up a tool
[15:49:50] <miss0r> ha... so the pickup arm was bend? :)
[15:49:58] <miss0r> or did it just drop all the tools?
[15:50:13] <syyl> cleared the whole toolchanger. sounded completely insane when all the 40 taper tools got knocked out and droped down
[15:50:22] <syyl> it was a changer without an arm
[15:50:39] <syyl> the spindle drops down into the carousel
[15:50:47] <syyl> and picks the tool directly
[15:50:53] <miss0r> indeed.. any spindle damage?
[15:51:07] <syyl> the spindle craped out a few months later
[15:51:14] <syyl> so, possible, yes
[15:51:16] <miss0r> so.. thats a yes :]
[15:51:22] <syyl> but it already had 8000 hours on it
[15:51:26] <miss0r> How many endmills did die?
[15:51:39] <syyl> all of them. and the renishaw
[15:51:45] <miss0r> bah...
[15:51:53] <methods_> ouch
[15:51:58] <XXCoder> syyl: robo cnc machine eh]
[15:52:15] <syyl> the dmg guy that came in was a bit puzzled
[15:52:24] <miss0r> have you given any thought to your photograph talk the other day? :)
[15:52:34] <syyl> and then took almost two days to bend everything back in shape..
[15:52:42] <miss0r> syyl: I don't know about the german division of DMG, but the danish ones are 'iffy' at best
[15:52:57] <syyl> the dmg service is
[15:52:59] <syyl> hmm
[15:53:01] <syyl> hit and miss
[15:53:08] <syyl> sometimes you get a brilliant service tec
[15:53:09] <miss0r> yeah. My experience as well :]
[15:53:10] <methods_> yeah i don't know what mori seiki was thinking
[15:53:20] <syyl> and sometimes you get the dropout
[15:53:34] <syyl> i have the photo in back of my head
[15:53:43] <miss0r> I think I've only ever seen *ONE* dmg tec that wasn't to be considered the dropout
[15:53:45] <syyl> but i have a very busy week
[15:53:45] <syyl> :D
[15:53:47] <miss0r> He doesn't work there no more :)
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[15:54:15] <miss0r> syyl: Yeah; me as well. I'm only clocking out now. and I started at 06:00
[15:54:24] <syyl> ouch
[15:54:33] <syyl> the joy of beeing self employed, hu? :D
[15:54:39] <miss0r> yeah :]
[15:54:47] <syyl> and then this tony guy bugs me all the time
[15:54:48] <syyl> :D
[15:54:56] <miss0r> Its more like: if I make a commitment to a client, I will keep it - even if I don't get any sleep
[15:55:23] <miss0r> tot? did he make fun of you again ? :)
[15:55:36] <syyl> we will see
[15:55:51] <miss0r> hehe
[15:56:30] <miss0r> I've often wondered if it would be possible to get abom in here to hang. I would love to pick his brain from time to time :]
[15:56:42] <XXCoder> hire him as consultant
[15:57:15] <miss0r> hehe yeah. I should do that :D
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[15:58:15] <miss0r> I've also watched these guys called 'physics anonymous'.. I've stopped watching them. They started talking about some stuff that sounded interresting. But everything they do... well.. They are not realy skilled
[15:58:24] <miss0r> in the machining department, anyway
[15:58:54] <miss0r> Thats it for tonight. I need to catch some sleep. See you guys around.
[15:59:08] <XXCoder> later :)
[15:59:17] <syyl> cu
[16:07:31] <CaptHindsight> miss0r: try the mail list or the forums
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[16:28:17] <XXCoder> telsa model 3 stolen from mall by just phone. lol
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[16:28:24] <XXCoder> IOT fail.
[16:33:43] <Jin^eLD> XXCoder: you missed the "S" in there... IO(Shitty)T
[16:33:53] <Jin^eLD> was a marvellous article on heise.de
[16:34:12] <XXCoder> indeed
[16:34:24] <XXCoder> I planned on IOS but then some people might not know that one
[16:35:24] <XXCoder> off to work wheee
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