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[05:36:22] <Loetmichel> *GNHIHI* someone asked on reddit if a game DLCs is worth it to save money to get it... i think now he can check for himself... he said he nearly fell from his chair when the steam gift notice popped up... cheap fun ;) (took a while to get his steam tag and befriend him though :)
[05:39:38] <XXCoder> hey Loetmichel
[05:39:50] <XXCoder> guy talked about set of steppers and movement setups
[05:39:59] <XXCoder> its 1500 of whatever units money I think usd
[05:40:08] <XXCoder> he wondered if it was worth it
[05:41:03] <Loetmichel> hihi
[05:41:19] <Loetmichel> not biting ;)
[05:41:59] <XXCoder> whats wrong with those?
[05:42:05] <XXCoder> too much money? too many problems?
[05:42:27] <Loetmichel> [11:37] <Loetmichel> HexaCube: definetly... but the wrong price category to gift away that easy... i am no millionaire. 25 eur Horizons for Elite dangerous is one thin... 900 eur for a CNC mill on the other hand... ;)
[05:42:34] <Loetmichel> same applies to you ;)
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[06:14:28] <jthornton> morning
[06:14:33] <XXCoder> hey
[06:14:41] <Deejay> yo
[06:19:58] <Tom_itx> morning
[06:23:06] <Tom_itx> 53°F Hi 74
[06:23:29] <Tom_itx> map shows clear but i swear it's raining out
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[06:27:50] <jthornton> same here but no rain I don't think
[06:28:06] <jthornton> na nothing on any camera
[06:28:27] <XXCoder> been remarkable clear for last 2 weeks which is abnormal for fall
[06:28:36] <XXCoder> starting to rain today nd for week though
[06:28:49] <XXCoder> fall is this area flood risk season
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[08:46:09] <gloops> ,
[08:53:17] * jthornton has a catch 22 programming problem to solve lol
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[10:06:49] <adamj12b> Does anyone know how to send the machine to a park position using the shutdown.hal file?
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[10:24:38] <Tom_itx> maybe call a subroutine that parks it from the shutdown.hal file?
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[10:25:28] <Tom_itx> or put a halcmd = line in it
[10:32:52] <rmu> gold to netherlands
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[11:14:04] <adamj12b> Tom_itx: Hi Tom, Just saw this. So you think halcmd=G53 G0 Z0 would work?
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[11:54:26] <JT-Shop> it would be a whole lot easier to just have a button connected to a MDI command to send the machine to machine home
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[15:26:58] <gloops> all quiet on the western front
[15:27:05] <pink_vampire> i'm here
[15:27:19] <gloops> well you were still quiet
[15:27:41] <pink_vampire> no one is saying anyting
[15:28:41] <gloops> one of those nights
[15:28:52] <gloops> nobody building anything in here atm
[15:29:19] <pink_vampire> I'm working on finding screws
[15:29:24] * jthornton is cleaning out the back of the garden shed to convert it to a coop
[15:29:47] <gloops> cant believe i lost 4 chicks today
[15:30:18] <gloops> was ok yesterday, gone today when i looked, rat chewed hole in back of cage - assume they escaped
[15:30:38] <gloops> either way, the rat probably ate them
[15:31:51] <JT-Shop> damn I hate that
[15:32:27] <gloops> yeah i really wanted them, very pretty, was going to put them into a larger shed anytime
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[15:38:28] <CaptHindsight> steel cage? impressive
[15:38:57] <gloops> no, plywood cage with mesh front
[15:48:44] <XXCoder> heys
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[17:04:15] <Deejay> gn8
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[17:17:31] <CaptHindsight> https://i.imgur.com for the chicken fans
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[17:39:51] <XXCoder> dang
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[17:59:30] <Tom_itx> capn, from jurasic park?
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[18:39:29] <jthornton> bet that one can't fly
[18:42:26] <CaptHindsight> looks like China
[18:42:48] <CaptHindsight> jthornton: what do you think, maybe 10 lbs?
[18:43:07] <CaptHindsight> turkey sized
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[18:47:31] <jthornton> looks like 15 lbs or better
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[18:48:42] <jthornton> even a Jersey Giant only gets to 10-13 lbs
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[19:10:27] <pink_vampire> what is better magnetic or glass scales?
[19:11:59] <XXCoder> might depend on usercase? I dont know scales. :)
[19:12:31] <pink_vampire> i want to add DRO for the lathe
[19:12:55] <XXCoder> ahh dro is awesome
[19:13:08] <pink_vampire> i know
[19:13:34] <pink_vampire> i want to try making new soldering iron tip from silver steel
[19:18:35] <pink_vampire> my soldering iron tip https://i.imgur.com
[19:19:36] <XXCoder> silver steel alloy?
[19:19:51] <pink_vampire> yeah
[19:20:19] <XXCoder> interesting
[19:23:15] <Tom_L> plate the tip
[19:24:32] <pink_vampire> Tom_L: I dont worry much about that, for me it is more a turning project then actually a soldering iron tip
[19:27:16] <pink_vampire> it is long and narrow shape, and for a person that almost never use the lathe it is somewhat challenging
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[19:45:21] <andypugh> I am not sure what soldering irons are made of.
[19:45:56] <XXCoder> its made from soldering irons of course
[19:46:04] <TurBoss> lol
[19:46:17] <andypugh> Classical ones are lumps of copper: https://www.youtube.com
[19:46:31] <TurBoss> that guy is amazing
[19:46:37] <TurBoss> saw many of his vids
[19:46:47] <XXCoder> andypugh: yep! that video was amazing
[19:46:55] <andypugh> But I am preety sure that I have heard that there is a layer of actual iron on the electronics tips
[19:47:03] <XXCoder> if youre pareon you get to see videos a week or more earlier
[19:47:11] <andypugh> I know :-)
[19:47:24] <XXCoder> nice! hi fellow clickspring pareon
[19:47:50] <andypugh> I should start my own Patreon account. I might get a beer a month :-)
[19:48:31] <andypugh> (i was really talking at pink_vampire about the tips
[19:49:05] <XXCoder> I know, shes working on making some
[19:49:32] <andypugh> The ones I like are the Weller TCP where the actual tip contains a special alloy that stops being magnetic at the set temperature, and that is what controls the relay. That’s so clever I refuse to use anything else.
[19:49:53] <XXCoder> ohh using curie temperate. nice
[19:50:16] <andypugh> Clever, eh? And they reckon “smart materials” are new
[19:50:51] <pink_vampire> the major diameter on the tip is 5.25mm and i have 6.35mm rod here.
[19:52:11] <andypugh> pink_vampire: Turning that shape: do the long diameter first. It will need a tailstock centre. Them cut off (part if your lathe can) then reverse in the chuck, grip the long diameter and machine the tip.
[19:54:16] <pink_vampire> andypugh: i think to make it "swiss" style, to machine the tip, then to make the narrow part in few sections
[19:54:57] <andypugh> Why?
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[20:03:04] <pink_vampire> i just saw someone sell the same emco vise that i have foe $180 !
[20:04:30] <andypugh> Did you see the sweet bench vice that a guy in Germany gave me?
[20:04:40] <pink_vampire> no
[20:05:01] <pink_vampire> andypugh: I save mine from the trash.
[20:05:05] <andypugh> https://photos.app.goo.gl
[20:05:25] <andypugh> I love the wide-dovetail design
[20:05:56] <pink_vampire> WOWW that is a vise!
[20:07:38] <pink_vampire> andypugh: do you know about DROs?
[20:07:43] <pink_vampire> what is better?
[20:07:49] <pink_vampire> magnetic or glass?
[20:09:39] <andypugh> I know nothing.
[20:09:57] <andypugh> I have only ever had no scales or full CNC
[20:10:37] <pink_vampire> you don't have a cnc?
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[20:11:53] <pink_vampire> https://www.ebay.com
[20:11:54] <XXCoder> only full manual or full cnc he said
[20:11:55] <andypugh> Yes, but the feedback is from the motor encoders and ballscrews
[20:12:04] <XXCoder> no dro type nor "automatic manual"
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[20:12:13] <pink_vampire> how do you move the head on this lathe?
[20:12:18] <XXCoder> I ran automatic manual machine once, its,... interesting
[20:12:39] <andypugh> On most lathes you don’t move the head.
[20:13:00] <andypugh> CNC-converted manual lathe: https://youtu.be
[20:13:52] <pink_vampire> andypugh: i mean on a lathe with milling head on a round column , how you can drill cross holes with it?
[20:14:05] <andypugh> (someone commanted on that video _seconds_ after I posted it.
[20:14:46] <XXCoder> 2 minutes
[20:14:57] <XXCoder> video post 9 min ago, comment 7 min ago
[20:15:05] <andypugh> pink_vampire: You generally can’t. In fact it’s not at all common for the milling head to actually be on the lathe spindle centreline. Odd though that may seem.
[20:15:23] <andypugh> XXCoder: Well, it would have taken 40 seconds to watch it
[20:15:47] <XXCoder> yeah 30 minutes appear, watch comment it
[20:15:56] <XXCoder> probably email notifcation
[20:16:08] <pink_vampire> do you think it is better to get one? or just use the mill for milling
[20:17:18] <pink_vampire> andypugh: the animation here is amazing! https://www.youtube.com
[20:17:26] <pink_vampire> how did you make it?
[20:17:37] <XXCoder> machine sim
[20:17:46] <XXCoder> I still havent leared about that also
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[20:18:28] <pink_vampire> i have a full 3d model of the g0704
[20:19:09] <andypugh> pink_vampire: That’s Vismach. Built in to LinuxCNC. In fact you can open that sim on your own PC. sim/axis/vismach/VMC_toolchange
[20:20:01] <andypugh> I made the sim to check out the carousel toolchange component, as I don’t actually have a toolchanger.
[20:20:32] <XXCoder> is machine definiable?
[20:20:45] <pink_vampire> to close linux cnc for that?
[20:20:47] <andypugh> Yes.
[20:21:19] <andypugh> pink_vampire: Yes, you need to exit your current config and open the sim from the config picker,
[20:21:54] <pink_vampire> is't not going to change anything?
[20:21:58] <andypugh> XXCoder: Yes. : http://linuxcnc.org
[20:22:09] <andypugh> pink_vampire: No, it doesn’t touch hardware
[20:22:41] <pink_vampire> i mean my linux cnc machine configuration
[20:23:27] <andypugh> It might make a copy of the vismach config in your linuxcnc folder, but it won’t touch your existing files.
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[20:23:51] <XXCoder> its always good idea to backup config files anyway
[20:24:12] <andypugh> No, there really is no cause for concern here
[20:25:41] <pink_vampire> i did a backup for my linuxcnc folder
[20:25:56] <XXCoder> andypugh: yeah just good idea in general though
[20:26:06] <XXCoder> because anything can happen and some HAL is tough to build
[20:26:57] <pink_vampire> andypugh: where is the "config picker"?
[20:27:24] <andypugh> Choose LInuxCNC from the tip-right menu, and what pops up is the config picker
[20:28:20] <pink_vampire> from the "start" menu"
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[20:29:46] <pink_vampire> andypugh: this is what i have https://i.imgur.com
[20:30:18] <andypugh> Yes, choose “LinuxCNC” and you get the config picker.
[20:32:14] <andypugh> https://imagebin.ca
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[20:37:16] <pink_vampire> andypugh: i got it now, but i can't see all my extra pyvcp buttons on the linux cnc
[20:38:07] <andypugh> Your extra buttons are part of your config, the sim configs won’t have them.
[20:39:28] <andypugh> (Go back to your own config and they will vome back)
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[20:39:40] <pink_vampire> so how do i make it work with my config files and change it to my machine?
[20:40:00] <andypugh> Ah, well, that;s where the fun starts
[20:40:10] <andypugh> http://linuxcnc.org
[20:41:17] <Tom_L> evening
[20:42:39] <pink_vampire> how do i open the "tk" window from linux cnc?
[20:43:50] <andypugh> It opens automatically if the config has a Vismach model. If it doesn’t have one then you can’t open it.
[20:44:29] <pink_vampire> i just closed it, so i need to reopen the whole linuxcnc?
[20:44:31] <andypugh> (If you have opened the Vismach config, then possibly it is hiding under the main GUI window)
[20:46:18] <Tom_L> andypugh, ever done any single point mill threads?
[20:46:30] <andypugh> Yes
[20:46:37] <Tom_L> wondering how you calculate for the tool tip
[20:46:43] <Tom_L> arc
[20:46:57] <Tom_L> i've seen a couple things:
[20:47:17] <Tom_L> imperial: .65 or .866 * pitch
[20:47:34] <XXCoder> ohhhh finally
[20:47:44] <XXCoder> zinc-air batteries will ne commerical soon
[20:47:58] <XXCoder> its far cheaper AND no flammability nor cobolt
[20:48:10] <andypugh> Tom_L: Well, first of all, are we talking about the same thing? https://youtu.be
[20:48:14] <XXCoder> I waited for few years on that
[20:48:21] <Tom_L> i'll measure the bolt thread as a check
[20:48:32] <XXCoder> cost apparently will be less than $100/kWh
[20:48:48] <pink_vampire> but there is no something like "view > 3D machine display"? because it is not integrated to the linux cnc window, you have to resize the windows to fit them on the screen
[20:48:48] <Tom_L> andypugh, not quite
[20:49:10] <Tom_L> single point mill cutter spinning around a circle
[20:50:35] <Tom_L> https://www.youtube.com
[20:50:39] <Tom_L> skip to about 4 min in
[20:52:23] <andypugh> Ah, right, single-thread thread mill
[20:52:56] <Tom_L> since my spindle motor isn't big enough to tap i thought i'd try this route
[20:53:08] <Tom_L> pretty sure it should handle that fine
[20:53:30] <andypugh> It’s a cutter you can make with a lathe too
[20:53:41] <Tom_L> yeah probably so
[20:53:57] <Tom_L> i picked up a couple to play with
[20:54:39] <pcw_home> It is a lathe, just the tool rotates and the work stays still
[20:55:14] <Tom_L> well mine is for the mill
[20:56:05] <Tom_L> gonna practice in wood first
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[21:24:18] <XXCoder> oh forgot link https://nantenergy.com
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