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[03:38:53] <pink_vampire> how do i edit the scale in linux cnc without change the acceleration
[03:39:55] <pink_vampire> i got the c axis to work, and i think the LPT is too slow for it.
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[03:43:07] <pink_vampire> so i reduce the encoder to half or the resulution, and now the C axis work nice and fast, BUT linux cnc think the 180 deg is full rotation, if i put the correct value in the "SCALE" on the ini, it fix the 180 deg problem, but it is go slow as before
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[03:44:02] <pink_vampire> any idea how to make it spin faster?
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[05:48:10] <jthornton> morning
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[05:56:10] <rmu> physics nobel prize - arthur ashkin, gerard mourou & donna strickland
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[06:12:32] <XXCoder> hey all
[06:12:37] <pink_vampire> hi
[06:12:45] <jthornton> damn I found a nice 6" jointer but it' in Springdale Ar and that's a 550 mile round trip
[06:12:52] <XXCoder> work was pretty nasty. not jobs which was fine
[06:13:03] <XXCoder> but shop was at two 70s lol
[06:13:10] <XXCoder> 70f 70% humidity
[06:13:33] <XXCoder> jthornton: ow gas makes it not worth it so fast even if your time is free
[06:13:37] <jthornton> 68°F 100% humidity
[06:13:57] <XXCoder> outside was over 100% for few hours lol its called rain :)
[06:14:02] <pink_vampire> i can't go faster in the stepgen settings
[06:14:05] <jthornton> it's the time for me it takes me 10 hours to make that trip
[06:14:21] <jthornton> just did that the other day to pick up the wood lathe
[06:14:42] <pink_vampire> I think i got to the limit of LPT
[06:15:30] <XXCoder> pink lol reminds me one time I played with my own "encoder", it went way over hz limit of sensor itself, I bought a 1khz one but havent tyried it because I moved short time later
[06:16:23] <pink_vampire> i did some test with tapping in to wood
[06:17:02] <pink_vampire> but i use g1 Z C code
[06:17:07] <pink_vampire> so..
[06:17:21] <pink_vampire> i can't use like g33 commands
[06:17:28] <XXCoder> is there "clicks per rotation" setting?
[06:17:34] <jthornton> I think I got my new chicken door code sorted out now I need to ramp the opening time up and down by date what fun
[06:17:37] <XXCoder> not sure how your encoder work
[06:18:26] <pink_vampire> i have 1024PPR encoder.
[06:19:40] <XXCoder> drat I dont know enough about your issue to help sorry :)
[06:20:12] <pink_vampire> i need to setup my C axis as spindle
[06:20:57] <XXCoder> none of machines at work that has c axis freely rotate while milling must lock in place
[06:21:12] <XXCoder> granted only 2 machines has c axis
[06:22:01] <pink_vampire> can you do ridgid tap on your machines at work?
[06:22:07] <XXCoder> all of em
[06:22:35] <XXCoder> its large shop machines after all, the smallest one we have, which is office mill by haas, is $50,000 bucks
[06:22:40] <pink_vampire> and can you set ans angle?
[06:22:52] <XXCoder> ans angle?
[06:22:58] <pink_vampire> i mean to rotate the spindle 90 deg
[06:23:40] <XXCoder> only one machine at work has spindle that can change angle
[06:23:48] <XXCoder> its very rare haas machine
[06:24:42] <XXCoder> its old but I guess haas only made a few and its now essentally nonexistant
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[06:28:27] <XXCoder> how did you halve the resolution anyway
[06:32:15] <Tom_L> 67°F Hi 87
[06:33:22] <XXCoder> outside 55f 97% humidity
[06:33:32] <XXCoder> it was 70f 70% inside shop lol
[06:33:42] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: there is a dip switch in the encoder, so you can select the resolution you want.
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[06:33:59] <pink_vampire> https://www.cui.com jump to page 4
[06:34:00] <XXCoder> walking too fast made me sweaty by humidity
[06:34:17] <XXCoder> interesting, how do you change resolution of encoder on linuxcnc side?
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[06:44:59] <pink_vampire> in the scale setting under your [AXIS] in the ini file
[06:47:39] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: ^
[06:48:18] <XXCoder> so it was also adjusted to reflect your current resolution on encoder?
[06:49:15] <pink_vampire> yeah, but the acceleration setting also need to be set
[06:50:25] <XXCoder> thoyght that was not linked to encoder? (not familiar with HAL)
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[06:53:07] <pink_vampire> the encoder connect to the G320X not to linux cnc
[06:53:55] <XXCoder> g320x has any resolution settings stuff?
[06:54:31] <pink_vampire> no
[06:54:48] <pink_vampire> it is the dip switches in the encoder
[06:55:27] <XXCoder> reading g320x docs
[06:56:32] <XXCoder> look at step: connecting the encoder https://www.geckodrive.com
[06:58:45] <XXCoder> hmm thats for selecting dip switches I guess
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[07:00:35] <pink_vampire> you mean the pulse multiplier in the g320X?
[07:00:42] <pink_vampire> you can ignore that
[07:03:17] <XXCoder> guess its for finding optimial resolution, nevermind :)
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[07:05:25] <pink_vampire> i need some FPGA or some better technology that is in use in 2018
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[07:17:10] <fragalot> Hey
[07:17:19] <XXCoder> hey
[07:18:58] <jthornton> hay
[07:19:13] <XXCoder> yay
[07:24:38] <rmu> pink_vampire: have you looked at setting stepspace to 0 and using hal_parport reset function? that could double you max step frequency
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[07:49:10] <pink_vampire> rmu: I'm not even sure what do you mean
[07:51:02] <jthornton> pink http://linuxcnc.org
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[07:59:44] <pink_vampire> I need to read it, and now i'm on my way out, and the machine is off.
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[08:22:11] <miss0r> New cnc controller almost done! :D https://imgur.com
[08:22:47] <miss0r> I just need two jumper latches, a usb A-male to A-male plug & to screw all the d-subs in place
[08:23:31] <pink_vampire> amazing as F*ck!
[08:24:17] <pink_vampire> sooo nicely done
[08:24:28] <miss0r> Thanks. But what would've made it look realy good; would've been a larger cabinet, so I didn't have to cram it in there so disorganized
[08:25:11] <pink_vampire> this is why I'm the gun cabinet
[08:25:23] <miss0r> gun cabinet?
[08:25:27] <pink_vampire> it is large and cheap
[08:25:31] <pink_vampire> yeah
[08:25:55] <miss0r> I guess; where you are from anyway. 'round here guncabinets are realy expensive
[08:25:56] <pink_vampire> miss0r: https://i.imgur.com
[08:26:07] <pink_vampire> NY
[08:26:11] <Deejay> big bertha!
[08:26:14] <Deejay> hrhr
[08:26:19] <miss0r> damn! sweet
[08:26:39] <miss0r> Can I offer a word of advice, if you don't mind?
[08:26:45] <pink_vampire> yeah
[08:27:19] <miss0r> Those wire ducts you are using, with the slits in the side: They also come in a 5 or 6mm configuration. Those spacings you have make it hard to make realy pretty wiring ;)
[08:28:02] <pink_vampire> all the din rails are mount on 80/20 rails so it is very easy to change stuff
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[08:28:58] <pink_vampire> I need better wire, I'm using 14AWG
[08:29:15] <miss0r> I've uploaded a few pictures of some former projects of mine, where 6mm spacing is used: https://imgur.com
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[08:29:44] <pink_vampire> I think it is the same one
[08:29:54] <pink_vampire> yours is just much deeper
[08:30:19] <miss0r> that is one thing; but the spacing in your cable ducts are alot bigger
[08:30:24] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com
[08:30:35] <miss0r> I know the type you've used. I only ever use those for cables, not single wires
[08:30:57] <miss0r> You can see your terminals; they are most likely ~5mm wide
[08:31:18] <pink_vampire> the terminals are 6mm each
[08:31:41] <miss0r> With the smaller spacing, you can 'almost' have the wires running directly from the cable duct to the terminals in a right angle
[08:32:04] <pink_vampire> where did you got them in the us?
[08:32:08] <miss0r> I love your terminal markers :)
[08:32:28] <miss0r> I didn't. I source my stuff locally (Denmark)
[08:32:34] <miss0r> I can get you an EAN number, if you want?
[08:32:43] <pink_vampire> I had to special order all the stuff.
[08:33:26] <miss0r> What are the rough dimensions on those wire ducts you use? WxH ?
[08:33:39] <pink_vampire> let me see
[08:34:31] <pink_vampire> 1x3 and 2x3
[08:35:01] <miss0r> so 25x75 & 50x75 ish
[08:35:06] <miss0r> (I'm metric :))
[08:35:16] <pink_vampire> yeah
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[08:35:35] <pink_vampire> I'm also metric, but use also imperial
[08:36:19] <miss0r> EAN: 4031026567556 This is for a 25x80 from HELLERMANN TYTON
[08:37:05] <miss0r> EAN: 4031026567563 This is for a 40x80 from HELLERMANN TYTON
[08:37:37] <pink_vampire> can't find them in the website
[08:37:45] <pink_vampire> https://www.hellermanntyton.us
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[08:38:12] <miss0r> try 184-10208
[08:38:27] <miss0r> and 184-10068 respectively
[08:38:43] <pink_vampire> 184-10208: 0 Results
[08:39:03] <miss0r> ... hang on
[08:40:26] <miss0r> I have it on the danish version :S https://www.hellermanntyton.com
[08:41:12] <miss0r> ahh
[08:41:20] <miss0r> You can't find my metric versions on the US site.
[08:41:25] <miss0r> https://www.hellermanntyton.us
[08:43:15] <pink_vampire> even if you get me them free I'm not going to take the whole wires out wayyy too much work.
[08:43:40] <miss0r> yeah. :) Just for future consideration.
[08:44:08] <pink_vampire> let me take up to date picture
[08:44:11] <miss0r> What you have made is looking realy nice. This would just have been adding the icing ;)
[08:45:35] <pink_vampire> I think the best thing i did was to add light. in the cabinet, much nicer to work
[08:46:24] <miss0r> hehe yeah :) You'd be surprised how few ever think of that :) Its a realy nice touch
[08:51:04] <pink_vampire> miss0r: this is with the C axis https://i.imgur.com
[08:52:12] <miss0r> That is realy pretty :D
[08:53:01] <miss0r> Symmetry i everything. And you nailed it :]
[08:53:55] <pink_vampire> the high voltage is connect together in the wire duct, this is why you see 4 wires come from the same slot in the duct
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[08:56:30] <pink_vampire> miss0r: also huge tip if you need to close a ziptie on wires in the duct, and you don't have the tool that pull them, just use a small long socket as a pipe, and twist the ziptie from the other side. it will save your fingers.
[08:56:34] <miss0r> so you have wire connections hidden in the duct? ^.-
[08:57:37] <miss0r> meh. I need to get a move on. I'll be back tonight. See you around
[08:57:46] <pink_vampire> the low voltage is deeper in the duct
[08:58:04] <pink_vampire> thanks. see you
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[09:32:38] <beachbumpete1> Morning LinuxCNC :)
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[09:52:07] <Deejay> re
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[09:59:51] <FinboySlick> Yo Pete.
[10:00:36] <FinboySlick> You have a working lathe now, right? I don't need to pity you anymore.
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[10:03:46] <beachbumpete1> hey finnboy
[10:04:01] <beachbumpete1> LOL sorry unfortunately I do not
[10:04:28] <beachbumpete1> Its still a hunk of metal and a bunch of boxes of parts in my garage/shop./
[10:06:05] <beachbumpete1> FinboySlick: do you have a working lathe now?
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[10:06:23] <FinboySlick> beachbumpete1: It's a sherline, but yes ;)
[10:06:32] <gregcnc> you latheless types
[10:06:34] <beachbumpete1> Nice...
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[10:06:52] <beachbumpete1> I really miss my 12x36 manual lathe
[10:07:19] <beachbumpete1> If I dont get the CNC lathe done in the next few months I may just buy a cheap used manual lathe just to have.
[10:09:20] <FinboySlick> beachbumpete1: You're in Abom territory. If we tell him some bum in his neighbourhood is neglecting a perfectly viable lathe project, he'll show up at your door with a 3" wrench and motivate you.
[10:09:39] <beachbumpete1> Hell someone's got to ;)
[10:13:13] <beachbumpete1> I did not know I was in Abom territory
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[13:23:45] <fragalot> miss0r: any suggestions on how to give a schaublin 13 an enema? (I think my oil disagrees with the previous owners' choice of oil.. it looks iffy and the spindle bogs down if I exceed 1850rpm which I *REALLY* want to resolve before anything gets wrecked)
[13:24:15] <miss0r> fragalot: Diesel
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[13:24:44] <Loetmichel> yeah, or lamp oil
[13:25:04] <fragalot> alright
[13:25:08] <Loetmichel> works well for diluting old grease/oil and get it out
[13:25:23] <miss0r> use ALOT !
[13:25:24] <Loetmichel> while still providing SOME lubrication
[13:25:30] <miss0r> and compressed air. rinse and repeat
[13:25:43] <miss0r> Then rinse and repeat with the oil you want to use for a few times
[13:25:57] <fragalot> Aye, I plan to keep rinsing until it comes out the same color as I put in
[13:26:06] <miss0r> indeed
[13:26:17] <miss0r> as for the spindle. I would take that apart
[13:26:18] <miss0r> :)
[13:26:19] <fragalot> just wanted to know which product would a) work b) not make it worse
[13:26:51] <miss0r> Indeed
[13:27:04] <Loetmichel> fragalot: diesel, petroleum, any "light oil" that still has some lubrication effects
[13:27:06] <fragalot> yeah I want to disassemble the vertical head anyway as I noticed some metal flakes as I flushed oil through there.. Not sure if they're just chips or if it came from inside as it wasn't "clean" :(
[13:27:55] <miss0r> yeah
[13:28:20] <fragalot> and the horizontal spindle could probably do with re-packing with fresh grease >.>
[13:29:42] <miss0r> fragalot: You wouldn't by any chance be interrested in a pentograph? :D
[13:29:55] <fragalot> I'm being thrown around the head with pantographs
[13:30:04] <miss0r> hehe
[13:30:06] <Loetmichel> if i still had that old military truck we used as an RV i would say: "send me the waste, we need fuel"
[13:30:08] <fragalot> friend of mine has 6, of which he wants to foist 1 off onto me too :D
[13:30:27] <miss0r> I just stumbled acros a mint condition Deckel one - the same model syyl has
[13:30:37] <miss0r> and a S0 deckel tool grinder. :D
[13:30:55] <fragalot> speaking of tool grinders
[13:30:58] <miss0r> But; A) I don't need it. B) Noone needs it C) I couldn't fit it in here if I tried :D
[13:31:00] <Loetmichel> ... one time we had the german customs stop us in it... "do you mind if we test your fuel tank for heating oil? (tax reduced diesel)"
[13:31:02] <fragalot> I figured out why that center drill snapped
[13:31:12] <fragalot> the damn thing's flutes were ground about 2mm uneven
[13:31:23] <miss0r> :o
[13:31:30] <miss0r> user error? :D
[13:31:34] <Loetmichel> ... driver said "nope, do as you whish"...
[13:31:48] <fragalot> miss0r: well.. both sides were completely unsymmetrical
[13:31:55] <fragalot> the tip was centered, but the flutes weren't
[13:31:59] <miss0r> fragalot: User error? :D
[13:32:14] <Loetmichel> ... the police officer put his tester into the tank, pulled it out and there was a black, lumply ooze dripping off it...
[13:32:20] <miss0r> what about the backrake on the end of the flutes?
[13:32:20] <Loetmichel> "WTF?"
[13:32:47] <fragalot> miss0r: barely there, but enough for it to cut
[13:33:14] <miss0r> fragalot: I'm more interrested in if they had the same backrake angle
[13:33:21] <fragalot> in any case it's now in the scrap bin after I tried to resharpen it to make an 'NC' style spot drill out of the snapped end
[13:33:32] <Loetmichel> driver: "look at the papers: this car has an "any fuel" engine".... there is about 80 liters used motor oil in it, 60 liters vegetable oil, 30 liters hydraulic oil (used) and a bit of petrol to get that mix to pass the injectors"... ;)
[13:33:42] <fragalot> miss0r: both ends did, but the 2 flutes on either end didn't
[13:34:02] <miss0r> odd stuff
[13:34:15] <miss0r> I know where to get a Deckel S0 tool grinder. Interrested? :P
[13:34:15] <Loetmichel> ... "but not a single drop of heating oil" ;)
[13:34:21] <miss0r> Loetmichel: Lol
[13:34:30] <fragalot> Loetmichel: so you got fined for evading taxes?
[13:34:37] <Loetmichel> nope
[13:34:48] <fragalot> miss0r: happy with the current chinesium clone grinder :-)
[13:34:52] <Loetmichel> if there would be heating oil in it we would have been ;)
[13:35:15] <miss0r> fragalot: Good for making off-center drills for the odd spotting job :P
[13:35:33] <Loetmichel> funny thing is that that (diesel) engine even runs with pure ethanol
[13:35:56] <miss0r> Loetmichel: What kind of an engine is that?
[13:36:03] <Loetmichel> it dosent care what it runs on as long as its flammable and thin enough to pass the injectors ;)
[13:36:06] <fragalot> Loetmichel: diesels run on anything flammable
[13:36:10] <fragalot> :D
[13:36:17] <Loetmichel> fragalot: yes
[13:36:28] <Loetmichel> but this engine is MADE to run on anything
[13:37:12] <Loetmichel> 1:35 or so compression, a injetor pump thats lubed by the main oil circuit and direct injection
[13:37:31] * fragalot thinks he needs to find a source to buy oil in QTY's greater than 1l
[13:38:09] * miss0r needs to go clean the kitchen :D
[13:38:11] <miss0r> See you later
[13:38:14] <fragalot> cya
[13:38:20] <Loetmichel> miss0r: that: https://www.youtube.com
[13:39:22] <fragalot> almost sounds like a hit'n'miss :P
[13:39:51] <Loetmichel> https://www.youtube.com <- thats the truck
[13:40:34] <Loetmichel> just that ours looked a lot nicer...
[13:41:34] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org
[13:41:40] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org
[13:41:46] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org
[13:41:48] <Loetmichel> :-)
[13:43:27] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org <- that blonde long haired guy is me... some 2+ decades ago... reparing the servo steering on a street in maroc/atlas mountains ;)
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[13:48:17] <fragalot> this oil alternatives overview table from schaublin makes absolutely no sense
[13:48:32] <syyl_> oil tables never make sense
[13:48:47] <fragalot> the central lube and spindle requires either a ISO 10 VG equivalent, or an ISO 32 VG equivalent
[13:48:51] <fragalot> depending on which one I look up
[13:49:16] <fragalot> or a 15
[13:49:24] <syyl_> or any oil as it seems
[13:49:24] <syyl_> ;)
[13:49:33] <fragalot> apparently, lol
[13:49:51] <syyl_> iso 10 is a classic spindle oil
[13:49:53] <syyl_> but
[13:50:05] <syyl_> for central lubrication way to fluid
[13:50:07] <fragalot> well the same oil is used for the ways, central lube, and spindle gear bath
[13:50:27] <syyl_> hmm
[13:50:27] <fragalot> and feed gearbox
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[13:51:28] <fragalot> hang on, took pictures of the tables
[13:51:39] <fragalot> (and you'll be pleased to hear they are in german :P)
[13:51:45] <fragalot> or something that's supposed to pass as german anyway
[13:52:03] <fragalot> https://photos.app.goo.gl
[13:52:57] <Loetmichel> fragalot: hihi, what did you expect from a schaublin?
[13:53:23] <fragalot> Loetmichel: either all french, or all german
[13:53:39] <fragalot> but this manual is a mix of french, german, or english, depending on the page you're on :D
[13:54:11] <Loetmichel> nope
[13:54:18] <Loetmichel> its all three on each page
[13:54:23] <fragalot> on that page, yes
[13:54:31] <Loetmichel> its called "multilanguage manual"
[13:54:37] <syyl_> that oil chart is a mess ;)
[13:54:42] <syyl_> i correct.
[13:54:47] <syyl_> oil dessignations are a mess
[13:55:10] <fragalot> Loetmichel: the oil pages are, probably becaues it's universal for their machines.. but most other sections are in one language only
[13:55:23] <fragalot> drawings are exclusively swiss french
[13:55:25] <syyl_> but yes
[13:55:33] <syyl_> a 32 hydraulic oil should be the right thing
[13:55:41] <fragalot> thanks syyl_ :)
[13:56:01] <Loetmichel> fragalot: he is the best to ask such things
[13:56:14] <Loetmichel> he owns a few of those old clunkers ;)
[13:56:25] <Loetmichel> <. has no room for such a big machine
[13:56:26] <syyl_> shell tellus 32 should be the modern version
[13:57:17] <fragalot> Loetmichel: I don't have the room for this machine either
[13:57:23] <fragalot> somehow that didn't stop me
[13:57:50] <syyl_> hey look
[13:57:54] <syyl_> a shell chart :D
[13:57:55] <syyl_> https://www.alexoil.co.uk
[13:58:10] <Loetmichel> fragalot: my workshop is the childs room of this flat here... i doubt the floor load would be good for a 2 ton machine ;)
[13:58:20] <syyl_> tellus 37 is the modern thing
[13:58:24] <syyl_> its an annoying mess.
[13:58:24] <fragalot> syyl_: I loev how tellus 11 is actually tellus 5
[13:58:25] <fragalot> :D
[13:58:33] <syyl_> yeah
[13:58:39] <syyl_> :D
[13:59:10] <syyl_> but as usual, disclaimer
[13:59:18] <syyl_> if the machine catches fire, its not my fault.
[14:00:12] <Loetmichel> syyl_: too late. you answered. of course its your fault now. until eternity ;)
[14:00:14] <fragalot> that'd be the flushing it with diesel part causing the fire
[14:00:25] <syyl_> *puff*
[14:00:43] <Loetmichel> fragalot: diesel is surprisingly "unflammable" without a wick
[14:00:46] <fragalot> :D
[14:00:54] <fragalot> Loetmichel: or atomisation - I know :)
[14:00:59] <Loetmichel> indeed
[14:01:06] <fragalot> you can easily dip a burning torch in a bucket of the stuff
[14:01:13] <Loetmichel> yes
[14:01:29] <fragalot> until it's reached the flash point
[14:01:30] <fragalot> :D
[14:01:35] <Loetmichel> or harden a orange hot steel part in it
[14:01:53] <Tom_L> Loetmichel was it you that posted the thread mill video?
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[14:02:05] <Loetmichel> few small flames from the vaporized diesl, then its off
[14:02:13] <Loetmichel> Tom_L: on the 6040?
[14:02:14] <Loetmichel> yes
[14:02:17] <Tom_L> what sort of feeds / speeds did you use?
[14:02:58] <Loetmichel> look at the end of the video, there is a look on the LinuxCNC window with full program visible... i think at second 52
[14:03:30] <Tom_L> can you repost it again?
[14:03:59] <Tom_L> also, what material was that
[14:05:52] <Loetmichel> alu
[14:06:11] <Loetmichel> https://www.youtube.com
[14:06:28] <Loetmichel> and a 60° engraving D-bit
[14:07:48] <Tom_L> not the same one i was thinking of
[14:08:07] <Loetmichel> sorry then , thats the only one i ever had ;)
[14:08:24] <syyl_> wasnt that gregcnc?
[14:09:04] <Tom_L> yeah it could have been greg
[14:09:05] <gregcnc> uh oh what did i do
[14:09:28] <syyl_> threadmilling video?
[14:09:45] <Tom_L> i was interested in the feed/speed you used
[14:10:09] <gregcnc> phew not me, .0005 to .001ipt
[14:10:20] <jdh> Loetmichel: got any chinese vfd's talking modbus to linuxcnc?
[14:10:24] <Tom_L> yeah that's about what i figured
[14:10:27] <Loetmichel> jdh: yes
[14:10:37] <jdh> any pointers?
[14:10:51] <Loetmichel> but cant figure out what i did 5 years ago to reproduce it on the second machine
[14:10:52] <gregcnc> and compensate feed rate for small radius!
[14:11:40] <jdh> mine does nothing but could be vfd params, bad 485 convertor, or bad code or bad halcmds
[14:11:49] <Loetmichel> the electric part is easy, USB-> RS485 converter, is seen as a /ttyx in linux, then 2 wires to the VFD ports, done
[14:12:05] <Loetmichel> but i dont know any more what i did with the software to connect it
[14:12:18] <Loetmichel> ast MarkusBec, i think he had it running, too
[14:13:01] <jdh> I have a usb 232 to a 485 converter that at least shows up in linux. ALso have a usb 485 device with ftdi chip but it doesn't get detected as a serial device
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[14:23:01] <Tom_L> i think andy has hy_vfd running on his
[14:30:34] <fragalot> miss0r: have you seen 'norsemen' ? :D
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[14:51:13] <gloops> thats why Ichs was so important here, he was well up on the chinese tackle
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[15:08:30] <CaptHindsight> besides the obvious text editors, what's out there for editing G-code? open or closed
[15:09:09] <CaptHindsight> CAMotics, G-Wizrd, HSM
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[15:18:41] <CaptHindsight> https://buildbotics.com a RPi is inside but what the controller software used?
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[15:27:15] <CaptHindsight> yet another project that claims that PC's with parallel ports are hard to find
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[15:28:25] <cradek> even if you disregard all the existing computers in the world other than new ones on amazon, it's still not at all hard is it?
[15:29:23] <CaptHindsight> LPT cards are ~$10 PCI or PCIe
[15:31:09] <CaptHindsight> that reminds me I have to add that fix for the http://wiki.linuxcnc.org
[15:35:47] <Tom_L> CaptHindsight once in a while i use the smartcam editor that came with it
[15:36:06] <Tom_L> mostly PN or NP++
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[15:37:04] <Tom_L> the native editor lets you do things like math on vars etc
[15:37:26] <Tom_L> translate ABS->INC
[15:37:30] <Tom_L> etc
[15:39:23] <Tom_L> now that my post is fixed i don't have to use one much
[15:41:54] <CaptHindsight> I have some rather unique CAM
[15:42:45] <CaptHindsight> maybe extend Blender to do what I need
[15:43:37] <CaptHindsight> looking at options
[15:45:34] <CaptHindsight> https://postimg.cc one nozzle already gets complicated since you can modulate ink flow and spot size
[15:48:04] <pcw_mesa> looks like the buildbotics thing is a RPI + AVR (Arduino?)
[15:49:14] <CaptHindsight> I skimmed through the firmware at the github
[15:51:45] <pcw_mesa> a RPI + LinuxCNC +A couple 4 PowerStep01s would likely be better in most ways (80V 10A vs 36V 6A smarter drivers, real display etc etc)
[15:55:40] <CaptHindsight> they might have gone their direction to be compatible with those other 3-4 automation projects
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[15:57:52] <CaptHindsight> http://openpnp.org https://github.com
[15:58:03] <CaptHindsight> https://github.com
[16:01:03] <CaptHindsight> all these projects are missing features that you end up having to develop vs having it all and not using everything
[16:01:27] <CaptHindsight> all to avoid using a PC as the controller
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[16:04:46] <CaptHindsight> https://github.com This Application is built for Chrome Browser only! :)
[16:04:55] <CaptHindsight> thanks
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[20:33:35] <ziper> how expensive were tools in the old days
[20:33:51] <ziper> would a drill bit or a file be worth a farmers monthly wage
[20:35:00] <SpeedEvil> That depends how far back you go.
[20:35:14] <_unreal_> sup
[20:35:16] <SpeedEvil> Consider that an hour of farmers time probably would not pay for an hour of smiths time
[20:35:30] <ziper> say, 1000 AD
[20:35:53] <Tom_L> did they have iron then?
[20:36:03] <SpeedEvil> yes.
[20:37:57] <SpeedEvil> https://thehistoryofengland.co.uk may be informative
[20:39:13] <_unreal_> ziper, So what is your current issue with the fiber glass stuff?
[20:39:17] <_unreal_> I have 5min
[20:39:24] <ziper> _unreal_, none really
[20:39:25] <_unreal_> then my daughter should be done with her homework finally
[20:39:31] <ziper> just thinking about a wing mast
[20:39:38] <_unreal_> then you figured out the foam issue?
[20:42:20] <ziper> expanded polystyrene i guess
[20:42:58] <_unreal_> would be a good choice
[20:43:12] <ziper> anyone else reading that link penny is abbreviated as d.
[20:43:21] <_unreal_> ?
[20:43:45] <_unreal_> ziper, you should see the projects I've been working on as of late
[20:44:03] <_unreal_> just finished building a $3k hatch. building an other larger one for an other boat currently
[20:47:19] <ziper> _unreal_, a deck hatch? how big?
[20:47:43] <_unreal_> combing hatch....
[20:47:44] <ziper> SpeedEvil, i guess the crux of the question is how much labor goes into making a file or a drill bit 1000 years ago
[20:47:48] <_unreal_> and yes one was a deck hatch
[20:48:24] <SpeedEvil> 'a drill bit'
[20:48:29] <ziper> gimme dat ltv
[20:48:38] <_unreal_> ziper, https://drive.google.com
[20:48:44] <ziper> a thing that can make a round hole with rotary motion
[20:49:00] <_unreal_> ziper, splash model https://drive.google.com
[20:49:07] <SpeedEvil> you can bang a spade bit out with a hammer and forge and chisel in a couple of minutes if you have a rod.
[20:49:15] <_unreal_> https://drive.google.com
[20:49:39] <_unreal_> mine is on the left https://drive.google.com
[20:49:55] <ziper> and for metalworking bits?
[20:50:27] <SpeedEvil> ziper: Forging would probably be more common I'd expect than drilling.
[20:50:58] <SpeedEvil> Look at how stuff of the era was made - large blocks of metal weren't common - it was expensive.
[20:50:59] <ziper> good point. Same think with files?
[20:51:22] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com is excellent
[20:51:28] <ziper> too valuable to turn into dust
[20:51:30] <SpeedEvil> goes through the whole process
[20:51:34] <_unreal_> ziper, did you look at the links?
[20:51:42] <ziper> _unreal_, yes
[20:52:46] <ziper> _unreal_, did you make just the lids, or the receptacle too
[20:53:01] <_unreal_> just the hatch cover....
[20:53:12] <_unreal_> it broke away in the hurricane last year
[20:53:31] <ziper> ahh
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[21:07:50] <ziper> thanks speedevil that video was just what i was looking for
[21:12:25] <SpeedEvil> Lots in the same series.
[21:12:30] <SpeedEvil> Making drillbits and ...
[21:14:19] <SpeedEvil> however - note that very little work of that type was being done - wheelbarrows have not been found mentioned before 1100s for example.
[21:14:32] <SpeedEvil> https://en.wikipedia.org
[21:20:44] <ziper> wheelbarrows seem like a rather low bar
[21:21:24] <ziper> this dude looks so aerodynamic https://upload.wikimedia.org
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