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[01:17:21] <fragalot> mornin'
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[03:52:58] <gloops> 10ft half inch bandsaw blade - £11
[03:54:10] <gloops> one of the cheaper carbon steel sundries
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[06:00:57] <jthornton> morning
[06:01:16] <XXCoder> yo
[06:08:25] <jthornton> yea my code finally updated at midnight... the heck with schedule
[06:08:57] <XXCoder> yay lol
[06:09:55] <jthornton> today = datetime.date(datetime.now(pytz.timezone('US/Central')))
[06:09:56] <jthornton> if lastDate != today:
[06:09:56] <jthornton> lastDate = today
[06:09:56] <jthornton> update()
[06:10:16] <jthornton> yea 4 lines of code lol
[06:10:41] <XXCoder> not very complex
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[06:35:41] <Tom_L> what was the issue?
[06:36:42] <jthornton> schedule would not work as claimed it seemed to be stuck in UTC time
[06:37:54] <jthornton> https://github.com
[06:38:17] <Tom_L> 42°F Hi 55
[06:39:24] <jthornton> 49°F high 64°F
[06:39:24] <XXCoder> oh firefox updates better now
[06:39:28] <XXCoder> no more tab crashing
[06:44:45] <gloops> cant give them away https://www.ebay.co.uk
[06:46:20] <gloops> direct english copy of atlas 10 inch lathe
[06:47:51] <XXCoder> lots cleaning needed
[06:47:58] <XXCoder> wood only or?
[06:49:36] <gloops> it is a metal lathe, looks like its been used for wood recently
[06:49:41] <gloops> screw cutting
[06:50:30] <gloops> http://www.lathes.co.uk
[06:50:45] <gloops> real atlas usually fetches £350 + here
[06:52:09] <gloops> should keep buying all these cheap machines, save them until theres enough to send a container to USA, would make 10x profit
[06:52:37] <jthornton> neighbor has a dog problem again, dog killed two hens in the last two days
[06:55:57] <gloops> hard to stop them once theyve done it
[06:56:22] <XXCoder> interesting gloops
[06:56:39] <XXCoder> well if you got a boat that can travel across ocean...
[06:57:26] <gloops> i see loads of people trying to find lathes and mills in the usa, seems difficult to find anything in the remote parts
[06:57:51] <gloops> then again - not worth transporting them there because of fuel/time costs
[06:58:29] <jthornton> 12 gauge seems to work to stop them
[06:58:55] <gloops> you can get to sea in 2 hours from anywhere here, in the usa its more like 2 days
[06:59:06] <XXCoder> checked if magig made a comeback in videos. nope
[06:59:19] <gloops> is he still alive then?
[06:59:22] <jthornton> na, you can get to the coast in 12 hours
[06:59:32] <XXCoder> gloops: no just hoping grandson would re-up videos
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[06:59:39] <XXCoder> or maybe himself dunno
[07:00:01] <gloops> XXCoder yeah its a shame the videos were taken down, theyre a big help to people, ive linked loads to them
[07:00:03] <jthornton> yea so far, I didn't have a good shot at it yesterday so I put a 9mm near the dog
[07:00:23] <gloops> oh they were your hens jthornton
[07:01:15] <jthornton> no my neighbor's hens but I help her out sometimes, she was at work and I went to check on them and saw the dog
[07:01:32] <jthornton> but didn't have my 12 gauge with me
[07:02:21] <XXCoder> not her dog?
[07:03:09] <jthornton> her neighbors dog... when she sent her a text she replied back shoot the damn dog I'm at work
[07:03:18] <gloops> lol
[07:03:24] <XXCoder> lol ok
[07:03:43] <jthornton> so they don't give a shit about the dog I guess
[07:04:36] <jthornton> kinda sad people are like that with animals
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[07:06:37] <gloops> if nobody is interested in the dog seems natural hes going to find his own entertainment, and dinner maybe
[07:07:10] <jthornton> the dogs never eat the chickens just kill them and sometimes carry them off a bit
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[07:10:55] <gloops> well, 4 plates to weld on, last bit always seems to be hardest to get up and do, will only take 20 minutes
[07:12:21] <jthornton> what are you making?
[07:12:34] <gloops> its a rolling bandsaw lol
[07:12:44] <gloops> actually, surprised how its gone, it might work
[07:13:00] <jthornton> for wood?
[07:13:26] <gloops> yeah for logs mainly, rolls along on skate bearings, screw lift either side to adjust cut
[07:14:42] <gloops> much smaller and more amateur version of this https://www.youtube.com
[07:14:49] <jthornton> I keep telling my buddy he needs a lift and spin for his sawmill
[07:15:49] <jthornton> dang that is a nice one, a bit short but nice
[07:16:47] <jthornton> I wonder who squared off the wood for the video lol
[07:16:50] <gloops> im not sure how stiff they need to be until ive tried it, ive got 2ft cut accross, might have to reduce that
[07:17:16] <jthornton> my buddy has this one https://www.harborfreight.com
[07:17:42] <jthornton> how wide is your blade?
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[07:18:10] <gloops> im going to try half inch blade, apparently narrower blade is better for green wood
[07:18:49] <gloops> hmm his has 1 and a quarter blade
[07:19:08] <gloops> might try 3/4 first then
[07:19:53] <jthornton> this is a big lumber area with lots of hardwood forests and most resaw blades I've seen are pretty wide like 2"
[07:20:23] <XXCoder> 2 inches?
[07:20:29] <gloops> yeah they use big blades here on the big bandsaws, i suppose it depends on the motor too, its only 1.5 hp ive got
[07:20:30] <XXCoder> pretty wide allrigght
[07:20:51] <jthornton> yea, that is for high speed resawing of cants (square lumber)
[07:21:04] <gloops> but apparently with green wood theres more friction/gum etc to trap the blade, narrower blade gets through easier
[07:21:34] <jthornton> resawing would be on dry wood
[07:22:05] <jthornton> my buddy will cut up the log the same day he dropped it with his sawmill
[07:22:13] <gloops> if i put a green log through my small bandsaw it flies through with half inch blade, but thats only 8 inch cut
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[07:24:09] <XXCoder> the woodgears guy is so busy moving lately apparently
[07:24:20] <XXCoder> been quiet for while and finally update recently
[07:25:50] <jthornton> got any photos of the sawmill?
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[07:51:49] <gloops> not yet, ill get some when its rolling, maybe tommorrow
[07:52:38] <jthornton> what are you using for wheels?
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[08:00:40] <gloops> i got an old bandsaw, complete with wheels, adjusters etc, chopped it and put a 1 piece of box section for the spine, its very rigid so far as i can try and twist it
[08:01:21] <gloops> thing is if it twists im thinking the blade is gonna come off
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[08:15:23] <jthornton> yea that makes sense to have a rigid frame for the saw
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[08:28:54] <jthornton> well crap the pseudo door did not open at dawn... now to wait another 24 hours to test the code
[08:29:37] <XXCoder> doh
[08:29:40] <XXCoder> api bug?
[08:40:10] <pink_vampire> my soldering iron tip die
[08:44:34] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com
[08:47:36] <gregcnc> it's a consumable
[08:49:30] <pink_vampire> all start with my new mini keyboard,
[08:50:41] <pink_vampire> i waned to make her a surgery, but the tip of the soldering iron was wayy too bad,
[08:51:22] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com
[08:52:23] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com
[08:53:05] <pink_vampire> so i made a tip for my soldering iron with the lathe
[08:53:46] <XXCoder> nice
[08:55:00] <pink_vampire> worked https://i.imgur.com
[09:00:19] <XXCoder> thats good
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[09:01:26] <pink_vampire> it's is awesome! the seam was 3mm and 24.5 mm long
[09:11:11] <XXCoder> :)
[09:21:53] <Deejay> making your iron tip? nice!
[09:22:06] <Deejay> *own soldering iron tip
[09:22:21] <Deejay> so excited, cannot type any more ;)
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[11:10:55] <Roguish> hey any of you machinist out there. what is the best type of tap for rigid tapping? using a floating tap holder in an older Haas.
[11:13:48] <gloops> jthornton you want a dog like this https://video.twimg.com
[11:17:46] <gloops> yes they know in here Roguish, gregcnc
[11:19:16] <sync> Roguish: just put the tap in a regular holder
[11:19:21] <sync> you don't need to float it
[11:20:22] <Roguish> gotta use the floatting holder. old Haas, not quite good enough for rigid rigid tapping. floating holder is an ER32 collet type.
[11:20:44] <gregcnc> any tap supplier has suggestions, but spiral point for through holes, spiral flute for blind. form tap if you like them
[11:20:49] <Roguish> really just not sure what type of tap? spiral, straight or what????
[11:21:15] <Roguish> this project has thru holes in mild steel.
[11:22:01] <rmu> pink_vampire: what material did you use? and how did you wet the tip with tin?
[11:29:59] <cradek> definitely spiral point
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[11:30:59] <cradek> get good name brand HSS taps
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[12:00:08] * jthornton doesn't want a dog...
[12:00:38] <fragalot> lol
[12:00:49] <jthornton> Roguish: for through holes a spiral point, for blind holes a spiral flute tap
[12:01:09] <jthornton> I like OSG ElectraLube taps for CNC
[12:01:42] <fragalot> i've alwayds wondered why you can't just use a spiral flute for thru holes too
[12:04:53] <gregcnc> nothign stopping you they just cost more?
[12:05:24] <fragalot> i guess
[12:06:00] <cradek> they are much weaker and more fiddly
[12:06:27] <cradek> and the chips come up and get twisted around the tap, instead of just being pushed through
[12:06:46] <cradek> so you can sure use them, but spiral point are so much nicer to use that it's worth having both
[12:07:27] <fragalot> cradek: thanks :)
[12:07:43] <gregcnc> fragalot have you never used both?
[12:07:48] <fragalot> i have
[12:07:59] <gloops> how much are these spiral flute cutters costing then? ive got a few in a box ill never use
[12:08:07] <fragalot> just never found a real downside to spiral personally
[12:08:27] <gregcnc> iirc the cutting torque for spiral flute is quite a bit lower
[12:10:42] <gloops> not that expensive, ill keep them
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[12:27:58] <Roguish> thank you gentlemen......
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[13:45:18] <gloops> did you get the handwheel working yet Blumax?
[13:49:37] <Blumax> gloops, yes but the homing is still not automatic :(
[13:50:05] <Blumax> I do the homing machine that makes XYYZ, then I go to the menu for A
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[13:50:30] <Blumax> If I disable the handwheel it's automatic :(
[13:50:39] <gloops> hmm strange
[13:51:27] <Blumax> yes
[13:52:00] <Blumax> I read on the doc linuxcnc that we could disable the homing on an axis in the file hal but I have an error ...
[13:53:03] <Blumax> http://linuxcnc.org
[13:53:10] <Blumax> Section 3.14. Inhibiting Homing
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[14:04:56] <jthornton> you need to tell the exact error message
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[15:23:36] <pink_vampire> rmu: I have no idea, it was scrap i think it is just cold rolled steel, and i did it at the beginning as a lathe project just for fun, but it turns out very nice and much better than i expected, for "wetting" the tip the first time I used "tip tinner compound " you just holed the tip it the tip tinner compound for few seconds and you have it. https://www.youtube.com
[15:24:53] <Tom_L> while it's hot or cold?
[15:25:03] <pink_vampire> hot
[15:26:21] <pink_vampire> it is melt the compound and make nice uniform coat of tin on the tip
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[16:22:34] <Rab> pink_vampire, looks great. FWIW I believe the composition of "real" tips (typically iron-clad copper) is chosen to minimize alloying with the solder and compromising the joint. If you're doing critical electronics work, might be something to think about.
[16:23:27] <pink_vampire> let me show you what i did with it
[16:23:51] <Rab> Might be copper for thermal conductivity, iron as a barrier to keep the copper from alloying. Steel doesn't have very good thermal conductivity by comparison.
[16:23:55] <XXCoder> copper has pretty good heat conductivity also
[16:24:45] <pink_vampire> but copper is bad, it its too soft so it will deform over time
[16:25:56] <XXCoder> more expensive if I remember right
[16:27:29] <pink_vampire> the mini keyboard surgery https://i.imgur.com
[16:28:23] <XXCoder> moving buttons around eh
[16:28:29] <pink_vampire> it was done with the tip i made
[16:30:44] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: yeah, on the top in a premium location they put "mute" and "explorer", i changed it to be shift and ctrl
[16:31:21] <XXCoder> interesting
[16:31:25] <pink_vampire> and i set the linux cnc to work with shift and also ctrl for max jog
[16:32:05] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com
[16:32:33] <XXCoder> wow such perfect setup for pendant
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[16:32:46] <XXCoder> I prefer encoder wheel myself but nice indeed
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[16:37:26] <pink_vampire> right side control the X and Y, and the left side control Z and C, and what nice about the "new" shift and ctrl, is the ability to just jog the machine without moving the hands all over the pendant, other than that, no remap was done, so the "new" shift on the left can work with the arrow keys on the right, and the "new" ctrl on the right can work with the ZXCV on the left.
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[16:39:52] <DaViruz> couldn't you have remapped them with xmodmap?
[16:40:19] <pink_vampire> if you look closly on the keyboard photo you will the the problem, the original Ctrl and Shift, was located on the bottom left corner, so to make something like Ctrl+Z was a bit tricky
[16:40:40] <XXCoder> DaViruz: it wasnt apparently a normal key
[16:40:50] <XXCoder> so maybe wouldnt work with remap
[16:41:00] <XXCoder> ya saw
[16:41:12] <DaViruz> i think the multimedia extension key-thingies should be remappable
[16:42:11] <pink_vampire> DaViruz: i did it originally, but it wasn't smooth, linuxcnc just ignore it several times, and freeze.
[16:42:24] <DaViruz> oh
[16:42:52] <pink_vampire> so you can't go wrong if it's done on the hardware level
[16:43:17] <DaViruz> that's true, never having to worry about it again is nice
[16:44:53] <pink_vampire> but all the other keys like the Vol+ Vol- Next Back, was configure in the axis python file, so it is native to linuxcnc to work with them to control the Z and C axis.
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[17:11:45] <Deejay> gn8
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[17:17:09] <_abc_> Hi. Does anyone know if a bidirectional lpt port in linux can be read, for testing, as a device file? dd if=/dev/lp0 ... ?
[17:21:42] <pink_vampire> i'm not sure
[17:22:12] <pink_vampire> i guess just try it.
[17:23:35] <_abc_> I tried, it is not ok.
[17:25:05] <pink_vampire> mm
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[20:36:13] <robotustra> evening
[20:36:32] <infornography> lo
[20:37:19] <robotustra> 127.0.0.1?
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[20:38:20] <infornography> ?
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[20:38:49] <infornography> you are groot?
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[21:09:03] <robotustra> who is groot?
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[22:21:44] <skunkworks> more ramblings...
[22:21:54] <skunkworks> https://www.youtube.com
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