#linuxcnc | Logs for 2018-10-13

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[00:02:46] <gloops> the knurling tools are ok for some things, like if you need grip on something
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[00:03:16] <pink_vampire> i know, but how I can hold them...
[00:05:22] <gloops> ahh, wont fit the tool holder
[00:05:47] <pink_vampire> yeah... this is the problem..
[00:06:54] <gloops> well, you design something to fit in the tool holder to hang over the side with a lower tool height
[00:07:02] <gloops> *could design
[00:07:15] <gloops> probably get some vibration though
[00:07:57] <pink_vampire> andypugh was right, you get a good set, and you dont with it
[00:08:46] <gloops> probably wont use that many tools in a lathe anyway
[00:08:58] <gloops> i make do with a few bits of hss for most things
[00:10:03] <pink_vampire> this is what i'm doing now
[00:10:22] <pink_vampire> and i'm not happy about it
[00:10:29] <gloops> other alternative is grind the bottom on the tools down, the ones that are too big
[00:14:08] <pink_vampire> maybe
[00:15:52] <gloops> this is the emco right? whats the max tool thickness, 10mm? 3/8ths or something
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[00:16:19] <pink_vampire> on the tool post?
[00:16:33] <gloops> yeah, whats the biggest tool that fits
[00:16:41] <pink_vampire> let me see
[00:18:03] <pink_vampire> H13.7 W10~ L54.9
[00:19:32] <gloops> 13mm you can get insert tooling that height, might be as well buying a dedicated set that you want, and sell the old stuff, might be surprised how much it fetches
[00:20:01] <pink_vampire> true
[00:21:31] <gloops> ive got some great large industrial tooling for lathe, way too big to fit mine, i look through them from time to time and ponder adapting them, but never have, and never will lol
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[00:26:16] <pink_vampire> i need to get some sleep
[00:33:50] <gloops> i went to bed real early, and now im up real early
[00:34:04] <gloops> which didnt really gain me anything
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[02:50:29] <Deejay> moin
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[05:15:21] <gloops> quiet again
[05:15:53] <syyl> *psst*
[05:16:42] <gloops> nobody is building cnc machines anymore
[05:16:56] <syyl> cnc is just a trend, fading away
[05:16:59] <syyl> no future in it
[05:18:05] <gloops> like skateboards and hoola hoops
[05:21:26] <XXCoder> cnc as hobby maybe
[05:21:36] <XXCoder> cnc as work not gone nytime soon
[05:22:04] <syyl> (i am just joking)
[05:27:43] <XXCoder> lol
[05:28:00] <XXCoder> on a unrelated note, just started trying discord. it sucks
[05:28:16] <XXCoder> I tried to nick ping someone and nope no worky
[05:32:45] <XXCoder> sigh discord on "colorblind" mode is still pretty close to unreadable to me
[05:32:53] <XXCoder> very low contrast
[05:32:57] <XXCoder> pink_vampire: help lol
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[05:44:39] <jthornton> CaptHindsight: yea the header came with each zero
[05:44:44] <jthornton> morning
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[05:56:26] <Jin^eLD> mornin
[05:57:42] <Jin^eLD> again a bit off topic, if I have a motor circuit breaker and the start button does not klick in even with mains power disconnected (it just pops out back if I press it), can I assume it's broken?
[05:57:48] <Jin^eLD> never had to deal with this thing before
[05:58:36] <jthornton> depends on the type of start button, I assume it used to click before?
[05:59:31] <Jin^eLD> I don't know how it worked before :( I got this machine untested
[05:59:50] <Jin^eLD> let me show it
[06:03:10] <Jin^eLD> https://snag.gy
[06:05:24] <Jin^eLD> I think its supposed to click in
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[06:06:01] <Jin^eLD> but I'm not sure since I never encountered a motor circuit breaker before, actually did not know what that thing was until I googled for the model
[06:06:06] <jthornton> yea if the power is off and it clicks in but pops out when the power is on you have a short
[06:06:26] <Jin^eLD> this one pops out also when the power is off
[06:06:29] <Jin^eLD> that's what confused me
[06:06:52] <Jin^eLD> so is it supposed to click in only when power is on? or is it a purely mechanical thing?
[06:07:27] <jthornton> that should be just a mechanical breaker, I've seen a bunch of them in machines
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[06:07:33] <Jin^eLD> so basically my question was: how is it supposed to behave when the power is off?
[06:08:11] <Jin^eLD> i.e. can I assume its broken if it does not click in when off power, or is it some magnetic kind of thing that works properly only when powered
[06:08:31] <Jin^eLD> ?
[06:09:08] <MarcelineVQ> That white thing between the controls there is likely a test screw, if it's in the wrong position it might be causing your tripping problem. There's an example here http://download.schneider-electric.com
[06:09:08] <Jin^eLD> but I think I anyway will need to call an electrician :) thought I'd swap this thing out quickly but its not cheap, hence the questions...
[06:09:14] <jthornton> usually older stuff like that is just mechanical, the cover just pops off of them
[06:09:16] <MarcelineVQ> that's from the model that replaces your model
[06:09:20] <gloops> does the front pull off if you take that screw out?
[06:09:48] <gloops> have a look, spring my be off, or some plastic locator snapped or something
[06:11:47] <gloops> like if someone whacked the red and broke it
[06:12:06] <Jin^eLD> ok wait, so the white screw between the buttons, as I read above might either be a "test screw" or just a screw to hold the front panel?
[06:12:29] <Jin^eLD> I found that diagram from Schneider yesterday but to be honest I did not quite understand it
[06:12:41] <gloops> mark its location, then try removing it
[06:12:47] <Jin^eLD> ok
[06:13:20] <gloops> in fact listen to Marceline
[06:14:25] <Jin^eLD> MarcelineVQ suggested its a test screw but from the link I don't really understand how to use it to test something?
[06:14:54] <gloops> well youre gonna be learning about it lol
[06:14:59] <Jin^eLD> hehe
[06:15:18] <jthornton> looking at it again it's in a box by itself so that tells me it's a manual motor starter not a breaker
[06:15:33] <jthornton> if you tug on the cover does it come off?
[06:15:52] <Jin^eLD> one thing I tried yesterday and I know it's something I probably should not have was, to hold the on-button and then to try to turn the machine on, but nothing happened
[06:16:10] <gloops> might be no good if the red button is stuck on
[06:16:38] <gloops> i reckon somebody thwacked the red and broke something, get the front off and check it out
[06:16:49] <jthornton> Jin^eLD: did you meter the hot side to see if you have power?
[06:17:47] <Jin^eLD> gloops: the red button pops out mechanically if I press the white button, no matter if powered or not, it just never stays that way
[06:18:14] <Jin^eLD> btw this is how it looked on the outside of the machine, it had a cover with some transparent rubber, so I assume its also the main on off switch https://snag.gy
[06:18:43] <Jin^eLD> jthornton: I am not an electrician so basically I do not try to measure anything on devices that are powered :)
[06:18:48] <Jin^eLD> especially with 380v
[06:19:14] <Jin^eLD> but I do hear a relay click when I hit the foot pedal that is supposed to actually start the motor
[06:19:26] <jthornton> you should give up now and call an electrician then
[06:20:06] <Jin^eLD> jthornton: probably the best solution, yes.. I was mostly hoping to hear "if its off and still does not pop in - broken, replace", but indeed it seems its more complicated
[06:20:22] <Jin^eLD> although I could try to remove the front cover as suggested just to see if any broken pieces fall out
[06:23:37] <Jin^eLD> thanks for all the suggestions
[06:24:10] <jthornton> good luck\
[06:24:59] <gloops> they are only £10 to replace anyway
[06:25:11] <gloops> used that is
[06:26:40] <Jin^eLD> new 40 euro and the store closes in 1.5 hours :)
[06:28:05] <Jin^eLD> if I had an offer for 10 I'd just go ahead and replace it and see what happens :)
[06:28:40] <jthornton> take the old one to the store and ask them if it's broken or not
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[06:35:59] <Jin^eLD> thats not a small shop where they know their stuff well, its an "electrician supermarket" or something, really huge and they have pretty much everything, but noone for such things
[06:36:34] <Jin^eLD> i.e. the guys who work there know where to find stuff and came make some smaller suggestions but that's about it
[06:37:23] <jthornton> then go to the store find one and press the button if it clicks buy it
[06:37:42] <Jin^eLD> oh right, that is actually a good idea
[06:37:49] <Jin^eLD> I should hurry up then
[06:37:51] <Jin^eLD> l8r :)
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[07:27:41] * jthornton has to check for an egg under the roost before the light comes on...
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[08:19:04] <jthornton> no broken eggs today for a change
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[08:56:05] * miss0r2 feels more dead than alive!
[08:56:27] <miss0r2> This is what always happens when I end up at a bar with the guys
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[09:08:02] <miss0r2> fragalot: I think you got a hold of my friends last night, and persuaded them into making sure I got realy drunk!
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[09:56:24] <fragalot> miss0r2: Maybe I did have a quick chat with Elias
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[12:56:59] <pink_vampire> ?
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[14:21:48] <JT-Shop> hmm I need to clean rust and polish a 1/4" blind hole...
[14:22:12] <pink_vampire> sounds like fun
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[14:53:11] * Loetmichel should REALLY clean up his mess here... since a couple months i can see one of my notebooks in the wifi, even have SAMBA access... but for the life of me i cant find it... must be plugged in though or it would be empty by now. :-)
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[15:02:01] * JT-Shop has a bunch of things he should do... and a bunch of things he wants to do
[15:04:16] <syyl_> and both things dont match up?
[15:22:58] <JT-Shop> nope
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[16:38:20] <Deejay> gn8
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[16:42:03] <pink_vampire> https://www.youtube.com
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[18:10:06] <andypugh> Who can guess what this is for… https://photos.app.goo.gl
[18:11:07] <jthornton> which part?
[18:13:06] <andypugh> The red 3D printed bit
[18:13:32] <jthornton> hmm to hold your water bottle?
[18:16:25] <EntropyWizard> Tie up your horse.
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[18:29:12] <Rab> EV charger holster?
[18:29:50] <jthornton> a flux capacitor holder
[18:30:55] <Rab> That apparatus to the immediate left is completely alien-looking.
[18:32:32] <andypugh> It’s for my high-speed spindle, which otherwise has no flat surfaces to sit on. https://photos.app.goo.gl
[18:33:30] <jthornton> ah the hole is just a material saver?
[18:33:42] <andypugh> Rab: That’s just a perfectly normal IEC60309 connector
[18:33:57] <andypugh> jthornton: Mainly a printing-time saver
[18:40:32] <Rab> andypugh, nice.
[18:56:36] <skunkworks> https://www.youtube.com
[19:05:02] <andypugh> Is that actually a normal bandsaw adapted to move on rails?
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[19:14:29] <skunkworks> heh - no. all home made
[19:14:46] <skunkworks> but before horzontal bandsaws were popular
[19:15:00] <skunkworks> that is a 2 inch wide bandsaw blade.
[19:15:14] <skunkworks> 1 tooth per inch iirc
[19:16:33] <skunkworks> 24" wheels
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[19:33:46] <XXCoder> pink_vampire: interesting video
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