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[02:44:30] <pink_vampire> hi
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[05:16:16] <XXCoder> hey pink_vampire
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[06:13:11] <Tom_L> morning
[06:13:31] <XXCoder> hey
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[06:35:07] <jthornton> morning
[06:35:40] <XXCoder> hey jthornton
[06:35:49] <XXCoder> today I kinda rocked lol
[06:36:06] <jthornton> cool, I over slept this morning
[06:36:13] <XXCoder> I used bad part to setup and find X and Y
[06:36:24] <XXCoder> it looked good so I ran good part.
[06:36:42] <XXCoder> oops seems it messed with xy enough to scrap parts (one bar makes 5 parts)
[06:36:50] <XXCoder> chamfer was pretty off badly
[06:37:10] <XXCoder> so I got a red tag (required) but while walking back to machine I think hmm
[06:37:24] <XXCoder> thickness tol is whole .01" +-
[06:37:44] <XXCoder> so I figure I use good part to find X Y again, but I also lower Z by .005"
[06:37:49] <XXCoder> boom, good part
[06:37:55] <jthornton> that's a huge tolerance
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[06:38:24] <XXCoder> whats funny is that face thickness is 0.032". so range is .022" to .042"
[06:38:56] <XXCoder> its pretty tiny part little more than tube with flat round face on it
[06:39:21] <XXCoder> shh dont tell that to terrorists lol (limition on boeing secret design :P )
[06:39:56] <jthornton> my 12v gear motor finally came in so now I can get started building the new chicken pop door
[06:40:12] <XXCoder> awesome :)
[06:40:28] <XXCoder> now add touch screen to control door while youre there :)
[06:40:31] <XXCoder> ;)
[06:40:55] <jthornton> I have a manual override switch for the door
[06:41:12] <jthornton> I want to use a better track system for the door this time
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[06:41:33] <XXCoder> door position tracking, or literal tracks
[06:41:44] <jthornton> tracks for the door
[06:41:52] <XXCoder> cool
[06:42:16] <jthornton> old one used a couple of 20/20 bars but too much slop for the magnetic switches
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[06:42:34] <XXCoder> if you melt your own HDPE from milk cartons by boiling oil, you could make self-lubcating bushings or whatever
[06:42:51] <jthornton> na, that's too much work lol
[06:42:57] <XXCoder> because even if you press it into shape, there is countless micro oil spots
[06:43:30] <XXCoder> lol
[06:45:02] <jthornton> I think I have some drawer slides somewhere around here but first I need to make the spool for the motor and the mount for it
[06:46:02] <XXCoder> wont it get rusty?
[06:46:33] <jthornton> the door is on the inside wall so no
[06:47:10] <XXCoder> not bad
[06:47:15] <jthornton> I wonder if this pc not waking up is the monitor?
[06:47:41] <XXCoder> it may be having trouble turning on lights
[06:47:47] <XXCoder> try montior on something else
[06:49:54] <jthornton> yea I have one that is a bit smaller I can swap with
[06:50:49] <XXCoder> try this also, when it refuses to wake up, shine a strong flashlight right up on screen
[06:51:10] <XXCoder> flashlight touching screen, you should be able to see whatever its displaying without light
[06:51:19] <XXCoder> if you can, its on,, just not turning lights on
[06:51:33] <jthornton> ah ok I have my egg candle light I can use that
[06:51:48] <XXCoder> I had montior die on me, I had to use flashlight to turn off my computer lol
[06:52:05] <XXCoder> move mouse, find it using flashlight, repeat
[06:52:55] <jthornton> the power light on the monitor blinks slowly maybe that's a clue
[06:53:30] <XXCoder> maybe google <model #> light blink slowly
[06:55:09] <jthornton> and this is the only monitor I have with a HDMI plug that I can use on the Raspberry Pi
[06:55:22] <Loetmichel> jthornton: that usually means its in "poer save" mode
[06:55:29] <Loetmichel> +w
[06:56:12] <Loetmichel> try plugging the HDMIm cable out and back in while both pi and monitor are running
[06:56:36] <Loetmichel> is there a display for a moment that says "no signal on port [x] going to sleep"?
[06:57:51] <jthornton> I rarely have the pi plugged in only when I can't ssh into one
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[07:04:57] <jthornton> if I unplug the DVI plug it just says no signal
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[07:31:20] <XXCoder> man I love my pebble watch
[07:31:36] <XXCoder> after a week its still at 60% charge
[07:31:51] <XXCoder> plenty of battery life. I didnt want daily charge watch
[07:33:20] <Loetmichel> hmmm
[07:35:47] <Loetmichel> i like my casio A164W for that reason... every 2-3 years battery change and its pretty sturdy. Gets expensive to get them lately, i tend to destroy one every 10 years or so... .- -> http://www.cyrom.org
[07:37:14] <Loetmichel> <- doesent need a smartwatch
[07:37:17] <XXCoder> lol yea my watch is much shorter in comparasion, but its rechargable and it gets notification from pohone so on
[07:37:22] <Loetmichel> i have a smartphone ;)
[07:37:25] <XXCoder> damn can pebble watch vibrate
[07:37:32] <XXCoder> I cant feel anything from phone.
[07:37:54] * Loetmichel has his phone on a belt clip and can feel it vibrate
[07:38:00] <XXCoder> I cant
[07:38:08] * jthornton never wears a watch and doesn't carry a phone
[07:38:18] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org
[07:38:21] <XXCoder> timeless classic eh
[07:38:51] <Loetmichel> the fact that the clip is made of metal may have to do something with it though
[07:39:06] <XXCoder> maybe lol
[07:40:34] <XXCoder> funny thing is I bought pebble AFTER pebble company went under
[07:40:52] <XXCoder> thankfully group of people created Rebble, a replacement server and app download site
[07:40:57] <XXCoder> so my watch still works
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[07:45:42] <jthornton> opps I went out to check the chickens a bit early the door doesn't open for 6 more minutes
[07:46:21] <XXCoder> timeless experence. ;)
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[07:48:21] <jthornton> they all had a confused look like wtf are you doing out here the lights not on yet
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[07:56:01] <jthornton> what does a pebble/rebble do?
[07:57:17] <XXCoder> its a smart watch basically. gets notifications from phone, as well as can do some stuff by itself. for example theres this amazing compass app where it shows compass in normal mode, and side view (points where directions are) when vertical
[07:57:31] <XXCoder> can change clock faces, mine is basic one with weather on it.
[07:58:05] <XXCoder> if I twist my arm and return quickly, it shows 3 day weather briefly. because why not lol
[07:58:17] <jthornton> lol
[08:02:20] <XXCoder> anyway I bought it for 22 bucks, turned out charger dont work, got $5 refund and bought one for bit less
[08:02:37] <XXCoder> then turns out there was screen minor burn-in, asked about it and got anither $5
[08:02:46] <XXCoder> so its pretty cheap at end
[08:03:09] <jthornton> no wonder they went under lol
[08:03:16] <XXCoder> no, from ebay
[08:03:36] <XXCoder> it was used one
[08:04:02] <jthornton> ah ok
[08:04:04] <XXCoder> honestly they went under due to severial factors including later generations of pebble having bad buttons issues
[08:04:17] <XXCoder> mine is pebble classic, post-kickstarter so its best version
[08:04:27] <jthornton> I have one month to get my new chicken door/light code into the current coop
[08:05:00] <XXCoder> features-wise pebble 2 hr is best, but really bad 2 button issue
[08:05:32] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com
[08:06:34] <jthornton> so it's a OLED display watch?
[08:06:44] <XXCoder> oled uses way too much power, so no
[08:06:58] <XXCoder> its special tft that uses riciously little power to keep displaying
[08:07:19] <XXCoder> uses little bit more power to change than normal lcd but holding screem it uses so little power
[08:07:23] <jthornton> I need to see what a tft is
[08:07:34] <XXCoder> that video shows it
[08:07:39] <jthornton> I've seen that before somewhere
[08:08:30] <jthornton> https://electronics.stackexchange.com
[08:09:07] <XXCoder> yeah. what pebble uses is special tft though
[08:09:16] <XXCoder> uses something like few uA to hold display
[08:10:09] <jthornton> so this guy on the backyard chicken forum pm's me asking why his ardunio code won't work... I tell him I don't provide pm support for questions because no one else can benefit from my work answering a question
[08:11:12] <jthornton> so he starts a thread and posts his code and I reply with some example code that demonstrates how to get what he wants and he basically says I'll try it when I get a chance lol
[08:11:29] <jthornton> what a waste of my time...
[08:11:39] <XXCoder> geez lol
[08:12:18] <XXCoder> jee gonna get myself clean so I can sleep and return to work tomorrow lol
[08:12:21] <XXCoder> later for now
[08:12:33] <jthornton> night
[08:27:45] <XXCoder> back while fan drying lol
[08:28:03] <XXCoder> nearly 60% humidity in room so harder to dry
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[09:17:25] <gregcnc> Anyone know why M2.6 thread exists along side M2.5?
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[09:19:17] <jthornton> some weird clock or watch thread?
[09:20:25] <gregcnc> actually quite common, and standard metric threadform and pitch is the same, but I've never read about why it exists
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[10:26:18] <dud3_l1n0x> what's here>>?
[10:36:25] <pink_vampire> linuxcnc irc channel
[10:36:31] <pink_vampire> dud3_l1n0x: ^
[10:37:02] <FinboySlick> the place where jthornton boasts about his Schaublin
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[10:44:23] <dud3_l1n0x> what its capable of?
[10:46:28] <FinboySlick> It is limited only by your imagination and hardware.
[10:47:12] <FinboySlick> Though more seriously, can do quite a lot. What would you need it to do?
[10:47:18] <pink_vampire> dud3_l1n0x: linuxcnc is a linux based controller for CNC machines
[10:48:54] <dud3_l1n0x> very nice
[10:59:02] <pink_vampire> do you have a cnc machine?
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[11:18:06] * JT-Shop wonders why FinboySlick thinks I have a Schaublin?
[11:18:19] <Loetmichel> *GNAHHH* When will i ever learn? Just mounted the last 2.0mm tungsten carbide mill bit in the CNC... *reorder* lets hope the suppier delivers ballistic... :-)
[11:18:22] <gregcnc> lol
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[11:19:48] <gregcnc> schaublin are not common in the US
[11:20:13] <FinboySlick> JT-Shop: Sorry got somewhat confused and tab completion did the rest.
[11:20:34] <JT-Shop> about like spell correction on dumb phones lol
[11:22:15] <FinboySlick> JT-Shop: Yeah, something like that, only it was a dumb keyboard operator.
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[11:34:19] * JT-Shop has a brazillion projects to finish so many I don't know where to start lol
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[11:52:47] <fragalot> hi
[11:56:25] <gregcnc> there's the schaublin owner
[11:56:42] <fragalot> don't forget the deckel we're buying at work too
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[12:38:24] <ziper> https://www.youtube.com
[12:39:47] <gregcnc> "Sadly, I’ve heard that the drummer OD’d on WD40."
[12:40:03] <gregcnc> "Legit, the heaviest metal band"
[12:43:48] <FinboySlick> fragalot: You can't brag about that one, you don't own it.
[12:53:59] <fragalot> FinboySlick: DETAILS. :D
[12:54:26] <fragalot> FinboySlick: does it count if it's my signature on the purchase order?
[12:54:43] <FinboySlick> Only if it's also on the check.
[12:54:58] <fragalot> who still uses checks?
[12:56:04] <fragalot> https://www.youtube.com -- they've been going for a while, but who'mever made them is a legend.
[12:59:28] <FinboySlick> fragalot: ziper just pasted that.
[13:00:04] <fragalot> that explains why it was randomly open in my browser >.>
[13:00:27] * fragalot has finished 2 19hr workdays in a row - don't judge
[13:00:47] <ziper> lollll
[13:01:01] <FinboySlick> You can afford a Schaublin, you can afford my judgement.
[13:01:16] <FinboySlick> Especially since I give it for free.
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[13:29:55] <CaptHindsight> unsaturated polyester
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[13:31:50] <pink_vampire> https://www.ebay.com
[13:39:19] <roycroft> i haven't used a turbo encabulator since i was testing my prototype flux capacitor
[13:40:17] <pink_vampire> roycroft: https://www.oreillyauto.com
[13:43:41] <CaptHindsight> what's the opposite/antonym of the noun "balloon" (non-balloon)?
[13:43:51] <roycroft> shrivel
[13:44:02] <roycroft> would be the verb
[13:44:27] <roycroft> for a noun, raisen? :)
[13:44:47] <roycroft> er, raisin
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[14:01:07] <ziper> on a dual axis drive each motor gets its own controller, right
[14:01:34] <pink_vampire> correct
[14:04:56] <JT-Shop> hmm copper == $900 and aluminum == $375
[14:05:08] <pink_vampire> ??
[14:05:39] <JT-Shop> power for the new shop
[14:06:37] <CaptHindsight> winning yesterdays lottery odds ~300,000,000:1, what are the odds if you didn't buy a ticket?
[14:06:58] <JT-Shop> pretty slim...
[14:06:58] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: 100% that you would not lose
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[14:07:23] <JT-Shop> $450 for aluminum XHHW-2 wire with shipping
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[14:27:33] <CaptHindsight> JT-Shop: how many feet?
[14:27:42] <jthornton> 210'
[14:28:36] <CaptHindsight> ? Home Depot 500 ft delivered for $151
[14:28:46] <CaptHindsight> https://www.homedepot.com
[14:31:11] <CaptHindsight> #2 or 2/0?
[14:31:14] <jthornton> I could use #2 for the neutral but not for the load carrying wire
[14:31:30] <jthornton> 2/0 for load and #2 for neutral
[14:32:57] <CaptHindsight> https://www.wireandcableyourway.com
[14:33:11] <CaptHindsight> $0.69/ft for 2/0 aluminum
[14:34:19] <CaptHindsight> shipping is ~$30
[14:34:54] <JT-Shop> yea they are the most cost effective I've found... shipping is $70 for all three cables
[14:35:28] <JT-Shop> like I said $450 for the wire delivered to my door
[14:36:09] <CaptHindsight> ah 210 x 3
[14:37:28] <CaptHindsight> when copper proces are volatile it was difficult to quote service installations
[14:37:37] <CaptHindsight> proces/prices
[14:38:48] <CaptHindsight> most distributors would purchase in bulk when the prices were low and then charge you the rate it is on the market for the day
[14:38:52] <CaptHindsight> like gas stations
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[15:07:12] <JT-Shop> gas stations only have a few days of gas on hand...
[15:10:00] <gloops> so long as the beer doesnt run out
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[15:31:11] <Tom_L> has anyone new shown up here in the last month?
[15:31:24] <Tom_L> seems the spammers have effectively throttled irc
[15:34:29] <JT-Shop> hard to tell they can't post till they figure out the secret
[15:36:41] <gloops> there have been a few, a lot just come, find a solution and go, they dont park
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[16:05:37] <gloops> Winning lottery ticket sold in South Carolina for $1.5 billion jackpot
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[16:08:38] <gloops> Dow Jones Industrial Average (^DJI)
[16:08:41] <gloops> DJI - DJI Real Time Price. Currency in USD
[16:08:41] <gloops> Add to watchlist
[16:08:41] <gloops> 24,583.42-608.01 (-2.41%)
[16:12:47] <methods_> so much winning
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[16:39:24] <roycroft> i won the lottery again last night
[16:39:58] <roycroft> every time i don't buy a lottery ticket i'm money ahead vs. buying one, so every time there is a lottery drawing i win
[16:40:35] <XXCoder> I will buy a lottery ticket once I invent time machine
[16:40:47] <laminae_> Roy! just the person i was hoping to talk to!
[16:41:15] <laminae_> I did most of the mod this morning, you guys mind giving me some suggestions for improvement?
[16:41:47] <laminae_> Anyway, if you feel so inclined: https://imgur.com
[16:41:48] <roycroft> i'm probably not the person you want to talk to
[16:42:12] <laminae_> Well, you've been helpful so far haha
[16:42:32] <roycroft> likely most anyone else on this channel would be more knowledgeable than me
[16:42:46] <laminae_> I ran into one huge problem, i accidentally imported the metric versions into cad and i have the the bullshi--- i mean imperial versions
[16:43:02] <laminae_> So the plates i made to put the y actuator on don't fit
[16:43:28] <laminae_> Those two cbeam extrusions are just to get me in a spot to cut new plates
[16:43:51] <laminae_> The biggest thing i could use direction on is the bottom of the frame
[16:44:47] <laminae_> Is it worth it to get a solid sheet (either alum or steel) and affix the extrusions to it? is there a more cost effective option?
[16:46:47] <laminae_> Really i'm already way overkill for my original intentions which was alum and cf but if it were a significant improvement i would be willing to throw time an energy at it. I also need to get the flood enclosure in there and i've decided this time that acrylic sucks and i don't want to mess with it
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[16:47:45] <laminae_> SO i'm looking at taking a full sheet of 1/4 birch and loser cutting it to the tank dimensions and then fiber glassing all the seams and coating the whole thing in heavy epoxy resin
[16:48:00] <laminae_> Like those huge fish holding tanks
[16:48:47] <laminae_> So whatever solution i choose needs to leave me all that open space below the actuator to have a slope
[16:51:26] <laminae_> Anything at all you can suggest for improvement?
[17:00:29] <JT-Shop> for a flood enclosure it must enclose the entire machine... not sure why you want flood for a router?
[17:01:33] <XXCoder> nylon
[17:02:46] <XXCoder> seriously, nylon is pain in ass. need tons cooling to keep plastic from fusing to tool
[17:05:06] <JT-Shop> yuck nylon... morning XXCoder
[17:05:48] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: liquid nitrogen is used when grinding nylon
[17:06:05] <CaptHindsight> heat + thermoplastics, similar issues
[17:07:07] <laminae_> Carbon plate
[17:07:16] <laminae_> pretty much the only reason
[17:07:48] <CaptHindsight> carbon plate or carbon fiber plate?
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[17:08:54] <laminae_> woven carbon fiber plate
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[17:19:15] <Deejay> gn8
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[17:53:08] <gloops> carbonfibre for a water tank?
[17:53:15] <gloops> why not grp
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[20:51:35] <ziper> what type of rotary tool is best for cutting foams
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[21:16:18] <CaptHindsight> ziper: fool me once hah!
[21:16:29] <ziper> CaptHindsight, what
[21:16:55] <ziper> does it not matter so long as it spins fast as hell
[21:17:33] <CaptHindsight> all discussions of foam turn into being called names in broken English
[21:18:36] <ziper> not by me
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[21:21:16] <ziper> im getting ready to order my parts. I think i'll cheap out on the motors, drives, pulleys, and the z axis
[21:21:23] <ziper> i can always upgrade those later
[21:21:33] <ziper> how much torque and rigidity do I really need for FOAM
[21:23:27] <CaptHindsight> make a Flmsy
[21:24:28] <infornography> lol
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[21:25:21] <ziper> im basically building this at quarter scale https://www.instructables.com
[21:30:32] <CaptHindsight> someone gotta new MIG welder for xmas
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[21:31:34] <CaptHindsight> https://youtu.be what do you call those welds?
[21:34:01] <ziper> functional
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[21:43:15] <SpeedEvil> https://www.ebay.co.uk
[21:43:40] <SpeedEvil> It amuses me when ebay adds a helpful price/kg (0.58/kg)
[21:45:41] <_unreal_> last fucking time I'll never be fooled again
[21:45:59] <CaptHindsight> 'STOLLE'
[21:46:07] <_unreal_> just found out my @#$%@# dash cam looses ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL of its settings every time it stays on and runs its battery down
[21:46:20] <_unreal_> the MAIN backup battery is also the settings battery
[21:46:25] <_unreal_> What a STUPID @#R%$ setup
[21:46:51] <CaptHindsight> just say FUCK don't be scared
[21:46:53] <_unreal_> had to do a HOWs my driving call today on some fucker that ran me off the road....
[21:47:28] <_unreal_> come to find out my dash cam for what ever reason didnt turn off and recorded ALLLLLLLL day long
[21:47:37] <_unreal_> and wiped out the video
[21:47:53] <_unreal_> What sucks is that I had to do a lot of driving at work today
[21:48:19] <_unreal_> so instead of it turning off and staying off it ran on battery for an hour then I'd drive.. ran on battery for 3 hours. then I'd drive ETC....
[21:48:21] <CaptHindsight> sounds like yah gots some deep seated hostility there
[21:49:41] <_unreal_> south florida full of POS Haitians and mexicans
[21:49:49] <_unreal_> most of which are illegal
[21:51:10] <CaptHindsight> maybe if was illegal to be ignorant and white while over 30 this country would be great
[21:51:28] <_unreal_> I just tossed an SD card reader and a cellphone to USB adapter in my car.... I'll never EVER be caught with out the ablity to rip a FU video from my dash cam again
[21:51:41] <_unreal_> huh?
[21:52:05] <_unreal_> read WHAT you typed and tell me you understand it.... from an english level I dont know what you just said
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[21:55:37] <CaptHindsight> true dat
[21:56:57] <_unreal_> you been drinken?
[21:57:05] <_unreal_> I have and I dont feel anything I'm so annoyed
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[21:58:52] <_unreal_> work has been driving me crazy... 90 % of the work I've been doing has been fixing other peoples fuck ups
[22:00:34] <ziper> sounds like your labor... is alienated
[22:01:00] <_unreal_> alot of mexicans
[22:01:13] <_unreal_> and there all very VERY stupid
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[22:02:04] <_unreal_> when I say mexican I do mexico, peru, puerto rico ETC....... pick an area
[22:02:10] <_unreal_> do mean
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[22:03:28] <_unreal_> its about time you can back
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[22:46:43] <sliptoni`> Hey all. I've got a mill with 5i25/7i77 servo drive. I've been running machinekit sucessfully for a couple years but have had some problems recently so thought I'd try lcnc again. I'm trying to convert the configuration and get an error adding the estop_latch function
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[22:47:32] <sliptonic> The estop_latch component loads into hal fine
[22:48:17] <CaptHindsight> sliptonic: post your .hal and config
[22:48:27] <sliptonic> but then HAL error function 'estop_latch.0' not found.
[22:48:30] <sliptonic> ok.
[22:49:16] <CaptHindsight> try the forum as well, I'm working on something else right now
[22:52:14] <sliptonic> Current config here: https://github.com
[22:52:22] <sliptonic> Ill post to forum too. Thanks
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[22:59:34] <laminae_> Anyone have experience routing pbt for vacuum form bucks?
[23:00:51] <laminae_> I've been using mdf but i'm at a point where i have a buck i know i like and would like to produce something that i can get a lot of pulls off of
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[23:01:52] <pink_vampire> someone know about sealed box with clear lid with hinges on the side?
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[23:05:57] <{HD}> F! Haven’t fired up the CNC in a bit and forgot my linuxCNC password.
[23:06:26] <pink_vampire> just reset the password from grub
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[23:08:28] <laminae_> That's assuming you remember your user id, if you don't you'll have to reset root password and log in form there
[23:08:30] <{HD}> Sounds easy enough I will look into that. I already walked away from the machine in disgust.
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[23:55:09] <roycroft> and after you reset your password, install a password manager on your main workstation
[23:55:11] <roycroft> :)