#linuxcnc | Logs for 2018-10-28
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[00:55:44] <flyback> <flyback> https://www.youtube.com
[00:55:44] <flyback> <flyback> set it up early this year
[00:58:59] <XXCoder> https://memegenerator.net
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[01:25:07] <laminae_> Hey dudes, optic limit switch issue
[01:25:30] <laminae_> Using parker stages which have built in optical limit switches
[01:25:48] <laminae_> I can confirm the switches work on ccw limit, cw and home
[01:26:05] <laminae_> Running off 7i76e 5v and ground (using multimeter)
[01:27:27] <laminae_> I connected to pin #11 on tb6 and went through the configurator under i/for tb 6, tried both normally high and normally low pins
[01:27:51] <laminae_> but i can't get lcnc to trigger when i click home axis
[01:28:13] <laminae_> I tried a number of diferent i/o pins and both the ccw and cw pins to no avail
[01:29:03] <laminae_> the normally high drops from 3.3 to .06 on switch and the normally low goes from .03 to 4.8v when triggered
[01:54:05] <laminae_> Reading documentation, limit switches are intended to use 24, is there a work around for this?
[01:55:00] <XXCoder> does it show as range?
[01:55:13] <XXCoder> sometimes sensor can have pretty surpising wide range of volt
[01:55:20] <XXCoder> for example 10-28
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[01:59:22] <laminae_> so, minimum is 14v x.x
[02:00:06] <laminae_> i found one suggestion for using the three encoder pins
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[02:00:24] <laminae_> i guess i could take just limits but that still sucks
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[02:20:26] <laminae_> Looks like i can use the expansion connectors but i don't see a indicator pin for pin 1
[02:20:48] <laminae_> Looking at this if anyone has suggestions https://forum.linuxcnc.org
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[02:43:28] <XXCoder> evenually there will be more people live heh
[02:43:33] <XXCoder> nows quietest time
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[03:22:38] <TurBoss> morning
[03:22:50] <XXCoder> yo
[03:22:57] <TurBoss> hello XXCoder!
[03:23:04] <XXCoder> whats up
[03:23:32] <TurBoss> the other day a friend showed me that you can grab 3d models from thingiverser
[03:23:55] <TurBoss> and xD I showd him the space ship from that game
[03:24:29] <TurBoss> 🕵
[03:24:43] <TurBoss> I have a question
[03:24:50] <TurBoss> someone here using stretch image from linuxcnc and buildbot version?
[03:25:06] <TurBoss> I can run the Linuxcnc example program
[03:25:09] <TurBoss> gcode
[03:25:17] <TurBoss> but not many others
[03:25:25] <TurBoss> I just press run and nothing happends
[03:25:47] <XXCoder> stretch image?
[03:26:13] <TurBoss> debian 9
[03:26:30] <TurBoss> http://www.linuxcnc.org
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[03:27:38] <Deejay> moin
[03:27:43] <TurBoss> hi
[03:31:45] <Deejay> hi Turbo ;)
[03:32:23] <XXCoder> ahh hmm did you "e-stop off" then "power on" machine?
[03:32:37] <TurBoss> yes
[03:32:47] <Deejay> hi xxcoder
[03:32:49] <TurBoss> sek
[03:32:54] <TurBoss> I'll make a vid
[03:33:08] <XXCoder> did you set part zero?
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[03:35:24] * TurBoss uploaded a video: Peek 28-10-2018 08-34.webm (340KB) < https://matrix.org >
[03:36:34] <XXCoder> was it homed?
[03:36:39] <TurBoss> yes
[03:36:46] <XXCoder> ok making sure
[03:36:51] <TurBoss> first program runs
[03:36:57] <XXCoder> strange that second doesnt
[03:37:13] <TurBoss> looks like a master bug
[03:37:34] <XXCoder> look around see if ANY of pathways go outside red box
[03:38:28] <TurBoss> it notifies if path goes outside
[03:38:32] <TurBoss> before run
[03:38:48] <TurBoss> :S
[03:41:34] <XXCoder> yeah. I wonder if its refusing because you didnt change part coord between programs
[03:41:48] <TurBoss> checking
[03:41:53] <XXCoder> safety, as valid coord for one part may mean nasty impact on other
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[05:03:09] <laminae_> After much tinkering, it is possible to the expansion port for low voltage limit switches
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[05:27:15] <XXCoder> TurBoss: any luck?
[05:27:25] <TurBoss> nope
[05:33:30] <jthornton> morning
[05:35:01] <XXCoder> hey jt maybe you know
[05:35:12] <XXCoder> he can run a program, but cant run next one
[05:35:15] <XXCoder> weird
[05:37:16] <jthornton> TurBoss: run linuxcnc from a terminal then try, some errors are no longer able to be reported due to kernel hardening by debian the dumb asses
[05:41:39] <TurBoss> ok
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[05:43:13] <TurBoss> jthornton: nothing shown in terminal
[05:44:11] <TurBoss> afk 20 min
[05:45:34] <jthornton> afk?
[05:45:39] <trentster> Loetmichel: Btw I used your speeds and feeds for Aluminium and it worked beautifully. Thanks for the tips yesterday. :-)
[05:46:14] <XXCoder> away from keyboard
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[05:46:58] <jthornton> ah thanks
[05:47:10] <XXCoder> I wonder if turboss went whole test, run program, load another and try to run
[05:47:28] <jthornton> anyhow the chicken door sensors work now to start combining the code
[05:47:49] <XXCoder> nice
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[06:25:19] <laminae_> Heh after all this, the home switch isn't working in the x axis assembly x.x
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[06:26:55] <laminae_> I do have a few other optical stages perhaps i might be able to cann from
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[07:00:08] <Tom_L> does linux support pcie ethernet cards?
[07:00:28] <jthornton> same as pci cards
[07:00:48] <Tom_L> swapped a MB and it has no pci slots
[07:00:53] <SpeedEvil> Yes.
[07:01:13] <jthornton> Tom_L: I'm installing windblows 7 on a hard drive from your first link yesterday
[07:01:31] <Tom_L> good news
[07:02:02] <XXCoder> you finally downloaded the win 7 iso eh
[07:02:02] <jthornton> so far it has not asked me for the serial number lol
[07:02:15] <XXCoder> it wont for while
[07:02:16] <Tom_L> it will eventually
[07:02:23] <XXCoder> is it a upgrade iso file?
[07:02:42] <XXCoder> if so, leave serial # blank, finish configuring it
[07:02:52] <XXCoder> then reboot and upgrade your windows 7 to windows 7
[07:02:52] <jthornton> no, it had two options upgrade or new install so both
[07:03:16] <XXCoder> second time use your serial
[07:03:48] <jthornton> why is that?
[07:04:03] <XXCoder> well apparently some serial numbers is upgrade only
[07:04:14] <XXCoder> but they made a mistake and made windows 7 eligible for upgrade
[07:04:31] <XXCoder> and it doesnt care if installed copy is registered yet
[07:04:43] <jthornton> I have two 64bit 7's that are oem install disks
[07:04:48] <XXCoder> mine is upgrade only but i did clean install lol
[07:05:55] <Tom_L> i ordered an upgrade or something from a site once and all they gave me was a SN and a link
[07:06:14] <jthornton> that sucks
[07:06:20] <Tom_L> may have been 8.1
[07:06:48] <XXCoder> i think same trick worked for xp, but not previous versions
[07:07:19] <Tom_L> i have a few disks i have to keep just for the SN to upgrade
[07:08:32] <Tom_L> 59°F Hi 68
[07:09:44] <jthornton> 46°F to 73°F here and sunny today
[07:09:46] <Tom_L> on a main highway thru town separated by a canal we saw a car that had busted thru the side barrier and landed in the canal
[07:09:53] <Tom_L> how the heck do you do that?
[07:10:01] <Tom_L> straight piece of road
[07:10:30] <XXCoder> blowjob while on road and just come when crossing? lol dunno
[07:10:56] <jthornton> lots of alcohol lol
[07:10:57] <MarcelineVQ> replying to facebook on her phone
[07:10:59] <Tom_L> https://kake.images.worldnow.com
[07:11:18] <XXCoder> sadly one of my uncles died that way, not by blowjob but simply steering wheel column disconnecting, he went hard left and went over. it was long way down
[07:14:27] <Tom_L> once years back the police landed their helicopter in the river
[07:14:44] <Tom_L> their pad was about half a block from it
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[08:12:56] <Loetmichel> trentster: pleased to help
[08:13:30] * Loetmichel is sitting at the company milling down some brass fittings/covers for notebook hinges...
[08:14:12] <Loetmichel> thanks to the designer who forgot thats his redisgn enclosure is 1,5mm thicker than the old one and not updating the brass schematics to represent that change...
[08:14:32] <Loetmichel> delivery date for the 7 notebooks: friday ... last week :-(
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[08:21:54] <jthornton> well crap SW 2010 my key code is wrong... 2003 only works on w2000 or older and my sw2008 won't install...
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[08:25:48] <Loetmichel> jthornton: VM withn win2k?
[08:25:53] <Loetmichel> .n
[08:26:43] <jthornton> I'd just rather install w2000 I have the disks
[08:27:06] <jthornton> but I was hoping to get a later version of SW up and running down here for chicken projects :(
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[09:11:46] <fragalot> Hi
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[10:13:40] <{HD}> Brass notebook covers‽ that sounds cool.
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[10:44:07] <rene_dev_> Anyone here from Wisconsin?
[10:45:06] <jthornton> my buddy is from Wisconsin...
[10:46:36] <rene_dev_> Im here until Monday, and looking for stuff to do and see
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[10:51:39] <gloops> motor locating bore done, nice little drilling there in situ
[10:51:58] <gloops> for bandsaw, if blade comes this week, trials will begin!
[10:52:34] <jthornton> nice
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[12:18:02] <jthornton> TurBoss: will each G code program run if you start it first?
[12:19:40] <TurBoss> jthornton: they fail if contains T1M6
[12:20:17] <jthornton> do you have any remap going on with T or M6?
[12:20:22] <TurBoss> jthornton: I have to leave
[12:20:23] <TurBoss> bye
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[12:51:52] <Loetmichel> maan, sometimes my wife is totally tech-savvy and sometimes she isnt. got a paniced call at work (yes, sunday work. Happens) "the washing machine isnt opening, its half full of water and there are clothes in i NEED tomorrow!!!1111"... just came home... put a bucket under the pump sieve access port, emtied 8 liters of water out, removed the sieve, pulled a fist sized ball of link out the
[12:51:52] <Loetmichel> impeller, reassemled the sieve, switched the machine to "rinse and spin" and it runs like nothing happened... sometimes machines need maintaineance...
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[13:01:00] <gloops> wow cheap ballscrew here https://www.ebay.co.uk
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[13:15:10] <fragalot> HI
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[14:09:25] <JT-Shop> hi
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[14:45:07] <gloops> deathly quiet
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[15:07:21] <JT-Shop> hmm can't browse the internet
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[15:13:46] <pink_vampire> here there activity, not linux cnc related, but machinists in general. https://discord.gg
[15:14:59] <gregcnc> saw this yesterday linuxcnc closed loop stepper https://youtu.be
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[15:25:36] <pink_vampire> look very nice idea
[15:26:17] <pink_vampire> i think steppers + encoders are better VS dc servos
[15:26:58] <pink_vampire> the dc servos vibrate and you can't use them for an indexer
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[15:46:28] <pcw_home> any servo can vibrate if not tuned properly (typically you need a dead zone or a very high resolution encoder to avoid dithering when static)
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[15:53:33] <gloops> not much use me posting here, nobody else works with wood
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[15:55:10] * JT-Shop gets back to making the wooden louvers for the new chicken digs
[15:58:43] <Roguish> oh no.............. https://www.nytimes.com
[15:58:51] <Roguish> another one bites the dust.
[15:59:38] <cpresser> could be worse. oracle for example
[16:00:29] <gloops> save copies of linux and linuxcnc on 50 seperate discs
[16:03:57] <Tom_L> gloops no but if you show us maybe we'll be encouraged to try some
[16:05:00] <Tom_L> so if ibm buys redhad will MS buy debian?
[16:05:31] <Tom_L> and ncr can buy ubuntu
[16:11:50] <Tom_L> gloops did you start making signs like you mentioned?
[16:13:12] <gloops> Tom_L have made a few but not had time to focus on it properly yet, got the techniques and everything, everything works, it would be just starting up i suppose
[16:14:18] <Tom_L> what software were you using for the lettering?
[16:14:57] <gloops> ive been using vectric aspire, it can be done in inkscape though, and other free apps
[16:30:22] <Tom_L> and back to deathly quiet again....
[16:31:43] <gloops> i wonder how many used to find their way here via Ichsguckslives youtube channel, he used to get hundreds of hits a day and this channel was flagged up i think
[16:32:04] <Tom_L> i'm sure the spammers have had an effect on all of irc
[16:32:33] <Tom_L> would you register just to view a webpage?
[16:33:12] <gloops> hardly ever do that
[16:33:19] <Tom_L> i'm sure Ichs had a big effect
[16:33:51] <gloops> i guess only the regular ircers go to that trouble, anyone knew will just close this and click on something else
[16:33:53] <Tom_L> i've noticed it across all the irc channels i'm in
[16:34:09] <gloops> new
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[16:36:36] <Tom_L> swapped the MB out in my test lcnc box, now i need a pcie ethernet card
[16:36:48] <gloops> funny other servers get round spammers without having to register en-masse
[16:37:31] <Tom_L> i migrated here from chatjunkies quite a few years back because it was becoming unstable
[16:37:37] <Tom_L> may be time for another move
[16:38:23] <Tom_L> brought one channel with me and started a couple others
[16:39:08] <gloops> beginning to look like the registering has become permanent
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[16:40:22] <laminae_> Any optical limit switch experts in the house?
[16:41:17] <laminae_> Have some parker actuators that i finally got working (mostly) but i need to adjust the trigger distance and the manual is leaving a lot to be desired
[16:41:50] <Tom_L> IR?
[16:42:07] <Tom_L> make sure the detector is shielded from ambient light
[16:42:43] <laminae_> http://www.parkermotion.com
[16:42:46] <laminae_> page 9
[16:43:13] <laminae_> they are completely enclosed in a fixture, they are parker of the stage assembly
[16:43:54] <jdh> I have lots of parker daedal stages of various types at work. They seem to last forever
[16:44:24] <laminae_> According to the generally information on the product numbe ri can adjust them so that i get the full 16" of travel without bellows, they are currently set for the bellows
[16:44:59] <laminae_> they seem to be mostly good except the home switch in one isn't working
[16:45:18] <jdh> the home switch is inverted
[16:45:21] <laminae_> I'm hoping it's just dirty but it is a hell of a project to take it apart right now
[16:45:48] <laminae_> Yeah, discovered that, had to run normally high
[16:46:03] <laminae_> And then i had to plug everything into the expansion port on my 7i76e
[16:46:12] <laminae_> low voltage
[16:46:27] <laminae_> Or rather i guess i should say logic level voltage
[16:47:00] <laminae_> Is there just a detent screw to slide the triggers?
[16:47:07] <laminae_> I'm really not understanding this manual
[16:47:47] <jdh> the flag is fixed, the switches slide in a track
[16:48:47] <laminae_> Awesome
[16:49:13] <laminae_> I have five small parker stages that have optical switches and i think they use the same system
[16:49:29] <laminae_> SO if i have to i might be able to replace the home switch if it is actually damaged
[16:49:53] <laminae_> https://laminae.imgur.com
[16:50:06] <laminae_> Oops here https://imgur.com
[16:50:36] <laminae_> Those are all the stages, the only part number i've been able to find my exact stage is the 406 ones with the bellows
[16:50:38] <Tom_L> PDF P18 P15 describes the switch mounts
[16:51:03] <Tom_L> although those are magnetic
[16:51:50] <laminae_> Yeah, that's what confused me, it also has a pinout for magnetic switches on an earlier page
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[16:53:12] <laminae_> If it came down do it and i can always just us a endstop to home
[16:53:57] <laminae_> center homing would save time and increase accuracy a tad but i'm not anywhere near the precision most of you guys are
[16:53:59] <gregcnc> many setups use limits to home
[16:54:18] <jdh> I don't recal any effective difference in the mag or optical cables/mounting/anything
[16:54:20] <gregcnc> the manual says they repeat to .0002" anyway
[16:54:58] <jdh> I usually put the home switch just off whichever end is 'safer'
[16:55:04] <laminae_> One sec, gonna snap a pit before i try and describe the next part
[16:55:11] <laminae_> pic* not pit
[16:55:42] <gregcnc> limit switches are only effective with certain types of failures when you have soft limits
[16:56:34] <jdh> they are very effective when setting the soft limits or when home has not yet been set
[16:57:37] <laminae_> https://imgur.com
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[16:58:25] <jdh> bikes!
[16:58:42] <laminae_> there are definitely things i'm doing wrong and i'd appreciate it if you point them out, i primarily work wit c02 lasers and 3d printers only been in the router biz for a few months
[16:58:50] <laminae_> Hell yeah dude!
[16:59:06] <jdh> what's the shiny one
[16:59:10] <laminae_> So notice the orientation of the z axis actuator?
[16:59:22] <laminae_> I'm not sure
[16:59:35] <laminae_> I got it from the same place i got the others from
[17:00:17] <laminae_> I want to flip z
[17:00:25] <laminae_> SO the plat eit attached to the gantry
[17:00:53] <laminae_> i'm concerned about all that way on a nema 23
[17:01:04] <laminae_> all that weight*
[17:01:07] <laminae_> man i'm tired
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[17:01:46] <jdh> it would be a lot of weight. but, better.
[17:01:54] <laminae_> It has a magnetic limit switch but three broken wires and even after i fix the wires i'm not sure if it is functional
[17:02:04] <jdh> they are optional
[17:02:36] <laminae_> I was kinda thinking of just using tough off and not using limits on z, what are your thoughts?
[17:04:07] <laminae_> I have been working with a small uas company to produce bucks for vacuum forming so it's really nice to have a ton of z so i can throw a 4in thick piece of pblt on there instead of laminating layers
[17:05:11] <laminae_> I am going to be getting a setarate machine just for wood and plastic though, so onc ei have the version 2 of the flood enclosure completed i can cut carbon plate and alum on this bad boy
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[17:36:55] <Deejay> gn8
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[17:38:17] <{HD}> Whats this thing that came with this dial indicator for? https://i.imgur.com
[17:41:24] <Tom_L> to mount it to something round
[17:41:30] <Tom_L> oh
[17:41:39] <Tom_L> i'm not sure what that is
[17:41:58] <Tom_L> it may be a tool to adjust the slop in the stylus
[17:42:15] <Tom_L> or to remove the stylus
[17:44:53] <JT-Shop> {HD}: that's a wrench
[17:45:38] <{HD}> Neat
[17:45:43] <JT-Shop> Tom_L: last guess was correct to change the stylus
[17:48:31] <Tom_L> i recently had to replace one :)
[17:48:35] <Tom_L> i didn't have the tool
[17:50:36] <{HD}> Well I guess I will just keep that little wrench in the box. I don’t have any replacement parts so home fully nothing breaks.
[18:06:46] <Tom_L> https://www.carbideprobes.com
[18:06:50] <Tom_L> if you ever need a tip
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[18:26:42] <laminae_> Is the "right" way to add a touch plate to use 24v to 2k resistor from resistor to input and plate and ground to spindle?
[18:27:40] <Tom_L> or 5v
[18:28:15] <laminae_> Awesome, thanks
[18:28:57] <laminae_> Finishing that up then tearing apart one of those optical assemblies, hopefully they slide similarly to the mag ones
[18:36:16] <{HD}> Does that mean my limit switches should have resistors? I should lookup a parport pinout.
[18:36:42] <{HD}> I think some pins are high and some low. Don’t really remember.
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[18:52:24] <Tom_L> i didn't put resistors on mine
[19:23:25] <XXCoder> JT-Shop: https://www.youtube.com
[19:35:15] <MarcelineVQ> Pleased with herself :>
[19:35:35] <XXCoder> seems so lol
[19:35:51] <MarcelineVQ> The Gladice comes along and tells her to fuck off, this is my house
[19:35:54] <MarcelineVQ> goddamn it gladice
[19:36:44] <MarcelineVQ> "Tony, don't forget to cut the part where we feed the chickens when they play with the chime"
[19:39:17] <XXCoder> lol
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[19:52:44] <laminae_> So, whipped up the probe with resistor and tested it in hal meter(success!) buuuut, i go into tune axis and i get a path error that seems to be specific to my rti kernel, anyone else encountered that?
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[19:55:29] <laminae_> specific error https://unsee.cc
[20:00:56] <andypugh> Which kernal are you running?
[20:02:01] <andypugh> Which version of LinuxCNC?
[20:02:56] <andypugh> It looks like this should have been fixed: https://github.com
[20:04:00] <laminae_> 2.7.11
[20:04:16] <andypugh> Though it looks like it might not have been fixed in 2.7 (if it exists in 2.7)
[20:04:30] <laminae_> on kernel 4.9.0-6-rt-amd64
[20:05:38] <laminae_> hmm
[20:06:19] <laminae_> I had such a rough time on first install i'm anxious about re-attempting it
[20:06:43] <andypugh> cradek: Do you recall what the sitiuation is with #159 in 2.7?
[20:07:02] <andypugh> I don’t think a resinstall is the answer.
[20:07:19] <andypugh> You might as well update to 2.7.14 but I doubt that will fix this either.
[20:08:12] <laminae_> I'm open to suggestions if you have any
[20:08:41] <andypugh> Let me fire up a VM and have a fiddle.
[20:09:14] <skunkworks> create the config by hand... ;)
[20:09:23] <skunkworks> lots of help. - I know
[20:09:58] <laminae_> wow, thanks andy, didn't expect that
[20:10:23] <laminae_> Thank you
[20:11:48] <andypugh> My VM was on master, so it is now compiling 2.7.
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[20:16:54] <andypugh> I get the same error, which is almost good...
[20:17:20] <andypugh> I am very surprised that we haven’t had many more reports of this problem.
[20:17:38] <laminae_> I'm thinking someone must have a work around
[20:17:45] <laminae_> I'm digging through the github now
[20:20:37] <andypugh> Well, the simple answer is to edit /usr/bin/pnconf and make line 1640 say:
[20:20:39] <andypugh> elif 0: #hal.is_rt and not hal.kernel_version == actual_kernel:
[20:20:58] <andypugh> (ie, comment out the test and make the elif fail.
[20:21:35] <laminae_> One sec, moving ot that terminal
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[20:25:35] <laminae_> Fak, gotta edit this as root i presume?
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[20:26:23] <andypugh> Yes
[20:26:30] <laminae_> Righto, one sec
[20:27:04] <andypugh> Well, you don’t have to log in as root. You can use sude
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[20:27:11] <andypugh> (sudo, I mean)
[20:27:15] <laminae_> I'm a command line newb
[20:27:27] <laminae_> Already editing
[20:27:41] <andypugh> Which text editor do you have?
[20:28:00] <laminae_> Using the default editor in lcnc
[20:29:19] <andypugh> “sudo mousepad” then, probably.
[20:29:45] <laminae_> good tip, i could have used that lot recently
[20:29:55] <laminae_> Obviously have a lot to learn >.>
[20:30:02] <laminae_> Really appreciate your help though!
[20:31:41] <laminae_> Welp, unfortunately pncconf won't open now
[20:32:20] <andypugh> What does the line look lik enow?
[20:33:07] <andypugh> What does the error message say?
[20:33:17] <laminae_> copy an dpasted
[20:33:22] <laminae_> No message at all
[20:33:35] <XXCoder> theres few nice term editors like nano or xed
[20:33:36] <andypugh> Interesting
[20:33:49] <laminae_> One sec, have an idea
[20:35:46] <andypugh> Try starting pncconf from the command line (just type “pncconf”)
[20:37:34] <laminae_> Failing to restert
[20:37:37] <laminae_> restart*
[20:37:40] <laminae_> gonna try a reboot
[20:41:42] <andypugh> Unlikely to help
[20:42:05] <andypugh> Probably an indentation problem.
[20:42:13] <andypugh> Spaces matter in Python.
[20:43:23] <laminae_> Yeah, i think you're right, i screwed up the spacing
[20:43:52] <laminae_> That sudo mousepad command is already paying off though
[20:44:14] <andypugh> Can you pastebin that section of the code.
[20:45:39] <laminae_> You were right
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[20:45:45] <laminae_> I accidentally deleted an indent
[20:46:10] <laminae_> Nothing worse than trying to walk incompetent people through basic troubleshooting haha, thanks for your patience
[20:46:44] <laminae_> And i can open the tune menu!
[20:46:57] <laminae_> Again, really appreciate your help and patience
[20:46:59] <andypugh> Great
[20:47:48] <laminae_> Should i make a issue in github for other users or would that be redundant?
[20:48:54] <andypugh> I am not sure why it hasn’t been fixed in 2.7.
[20:50:00] <{HD}> What are you people think about using incandescent lightbulbs as breaking resisters?
[20:51:13] <andypugh> It ought to work, but heater elements are more conventional when re-purposing househild items.
[20:52:38] <{HD}> andypugh: I guess I can ddg heater elements to see where to find them. I liked the idea of a bright flash of light when stopping...for some reason.
[20:52:54] <{HD}> Is there a particular ohm I should be looking for?
[20:53:42] <andypugh> It’s not something I know much about, I haven’t ever needed braking resistors.
[20:54:16] <{HD}> andypugh: I also don’t “need” breaking resistors but I thought it would be neat.
[20:54:49] <andypugh> Well, in that case use incandescent bulbs, if you can still buy them in your country.
[20:55:16] <laminae_> could you configure an led on one of your outputs?
[20:55:43] <laminae_> seems like you could configure hal to make output go high when your touch plate goes low
[20:55:45] <{HD}> I don’t know how hard they are to find within the United States however I have a large quantity Anna shelf up in the shop.
[20:56:06] <{HD}> S/Anna/on a
[20:57:04] <andypugh> laminae_: Yes, that’s pretty easy, though probably a manual HAL edit is needed
[20:58:09] <laminae_> Nice, i think i might do that too then
[20:58:29] <laminae_> Then i would have a troubleshooting tool if something doesn't work
[20:58:33] <andypugh> Another alternative is an onscreen “LED” to indicate the same thing.
[20:58:58] <laminae_> I goess if it came down to it i could just turn on the hal scope too
[20:59:18] <andypugh> It is a good idea, I keep menaing to do the same thing as it’s nice to know the probe is working before hitting things with it.
[20:59:35] <andypugh> halmeter is a bit less trouble to set up for that.
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[21:01:04] <laminae_> I put 4mm pomona plugs on my "probe" so i can switch between magnet, plate or alligator clip easily so it's pretty easy to pull apart if i do need to
[21:02:26] <andypugh> I am a bit more fancy, my various probes plug in to a Lemo socket.
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[21:08:51] <laminae_> I think i would like that on the case side
[21:10:06] <laminae_> Just found this, pretty good guide, https://www.youtube.com
[21:10:16] <laminae_> better than my original concept
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[21:28:16] <_unreal_> sweet just got my no clean SMD rosin
[21:29:01] <_unreal_> killing me I just want my pnp mosfets to arrive in the mail
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[21:50:01] <_unreal_> omg not even 10pm and my head is bobbing :(
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[22:17:08] <_unreal_> I wish I wasnt so damn tired
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[23:12:21] <{HD}> Does linuxcnc leverage the video card for anything other than display? Can I get away with this very old vga card?
[23:13:36] <XXCoder> you need gpu but besides that it dont really matter
[23:13:57] <XXCoder> video card doing its own work means less cpu interruptions
[23:14:06] <XXCoder> which makes for better latency
[23:15:08] <{HD}> Cool. I will prob switch this thing out for this stinkin old vga card.
[23:15:33] <{HD}> Since the monitor I am using is also stinkin old. Then I don’t need any fancy wires.
[23:15:48] <XXCoder> probably can ebay some old gamer card
[23:15:55] <XXCoder> if that card isnt good enough
[23:16:37] <{HD}> You said any card will do
[23:16:42] <XXCoder> my linuxcnc pc uses 12 year old pc gamer card
[23:16:45] <XXCoder> kind of
[23:17:04] <{HD}> Kind of...haha
[23:17:17] <XXCoder> some shitty shared ram card would not do
[23:17:35] <XXCoder> nor any that depends on cpu
[23:17:47] <XXCoder> besides those, most would work just fine
[23:18:45] <{HD}> https://i.imgur.com
[23:18:58] <{HD}> I’ve got these 3 older cards to pick from.
[23:19:21] <{HD}> The black and the red card have hdmi so cannot be too old.
[23:20:40] <{HD}> Wow
[23:20:40] <XXCoder> top left and bottom seems usable yeah
[23:20:45] <XXCoder> top right dunno
[23:21:07] <{HD}> https://i.imgur.com
[23:21:33] <{HD}> This was what was in it.
[23:21:34] <XXCoder> "any coment removal is not allowed"
[23:21:35] <XXCoder> lol
[23:21:51] <XXCoder> it looks like it tries to be badass gamer card
[23:22:16] <{HD}> This is old
[23:22:22] <{HD}> 20 years prob
[23:22:36] <XXCoder> it probably WAS badass dunno
[23:23:05] <{HD}> I remember buying it so I could play the original tomb raider
[23:23:25] <XXCoder> msi olf nvidia or asus
[23:23:43] <XXCoder> nvidia tend to be better supported in linux but that one might be too old?
[23:24:02] <{HD}> 1996 I bought this gainward...
[23:24:08] <XXCoder> it has hdmi connection point but not connected I think, or mayve thats second vga
[23:25:01] <{HD}> XXCoder: lol thats an unpopulated svideo spot!
[23:25:24] <XXCoder> doh thats older than I expected
[23:25:28] <{HD}> https://i.imgur.com
[23:25:50] <{HD}> Has the same pin config as the gainward that has it populated
[23:25:50] <XXCoder> ehh I think top left or bottom is fine
[23:26:17] <XXCoder> both is modern enough if bottom rightmost connector is hdmi
[23:26:26] <{HD}> Thats not even svideo...I don’t know what that is...
[23:26:45] <{HD}> Yes the asus and msi have hdmi
[23:26:45] <XXCoder> hm well you could always just do latency test with all those
[23:28:17] <{HD}> XXCoder: I was hitting 5k with the gainward.
[23:28:39] <XXCoder> 5k max latency?
[23:28:39] <{HD}> When running 3xglxgears I think I hit 10k
[23:29:19] <{HD}> Yeah 5k is that too much?
[23:29:27] <XXCoder> what I do is run nearly full screen HD youtube screen (as much of it is constantly mocing as possible), 3 glxgears and moving one of those glxgear around rapidly
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[23:29:44] <XXCoder> lower the better but you want your pc BUUUUSY when testing for latency.
[23:30:16] <XXCoder> my pc I got 15k which is very good
[23:30:34] <XXCoder> you want within certain range of latancy, and above 100k makes for shitty latency
[23:30:38] <{HD}> I was running a sample gcode
[23:30:50] <{HD}> 100k that is huge
[23:30:58] <{HD}> Ive never seen it that high
[23:31:01] <XXCoder> hah nothing compared with my laptop. 250k
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[23:31:30] <XXCoder> anyway try the test as I have outlined. maybe also run linuxcnc gcode at same time
[23:31:59] <{HD}> Holy moly. Ok I will test out this other older card first.
[23:32:23] <XXCoder> try to repeat tests as exactly same as you can
[23:32:26] <{HD}> Moving this box upstairs so hopefully will have it back together by tmrw.
[23:32:31] <XXCoder> use same HD video for example
[23:33:06] <pink_vampire> hi all
[23:33:14] <XXCoder> hey pink_vampire
[23:33:22] <{HD}> Hi
[23:33:26] <pink_vampire> hi XXCoder
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[23:33:31] <pink_vampire> hi {HD}
[23:37:39] <ziper> hi
[23:37:46] <pink_vampire> I need to make 2 of those https://imgur.com
[23:38:03] <pink_vampire> 1" to 3/8" barb fitting
[23:38:59] <XXCoder> air pressure adoptors?
[23:39:29] <XXCoder> if I am making those for personal use I'd make a couple more as setup time takes much more than mere material
[23:41:56] <pink_vampire> it is for my radiator
[23:43:44] <{HD}> 3d print those things in 2 seconds. What pressures, temps and toxic liquids?
[23:44:14] <pink_vampire> antifreeze
[23:44:47] <pink_vampire> and about 35 psi
[23:45:06] <pink_vampire> 40C
[23:45:09] <XXCoder> yeah cant 3d print that
[23:45:25] <ziper> lost PLA, cast them
[23:46:11] <pink_vampire> i that the repreap channel?
[23:46:21] <MarcelineVQ> can't get something like that at lordco?
[23:46:39] <XXCoder> can always get something close enough and lathe it to fit
[23:46:43] <XXCoder> if it exists
[23:47:03] <XXCoder> theres few parts at work thats little more than just modify existing bolts
[23:48:29] <pink_vampire> there is no 1" to 3/8"
[23:48:41] <XXCoder> none pretty close and modifable?
[23:49:37] <pink_vampire> try to search
[23:50:02] <{HD}> Whats the working temps of nylon? I just started printing that.
[23:51:00] <pink_vampire> 3d print will leak
[23:51:22] <{HD}> Not at 35psi.
[23:51:44] <{HD}> My prints could handle that.
[23:52:49] <pink_vampire> brass will make me sleep at night
[23:53:41] <{HD}> That’s probably worth it
[23:54:16] <pink_vampire> and it is good time in front of the lathe
[23:57:30] <{HD}> I need to get a lathe. I am waiting on tony to finish his 4th axis videos to see if I could get by with that.
[23:57:54] <MarcelineVQ> something like https://www.homedepot.com is pretty close, hard to say without checking in person whether that hex section is wide enough to work with though. there's things like this which are pretty close though.
[23:59:58] <pink_vampire> MarcelineVQ: not even close