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[02:18:02] <miss0r> Belgium phone service is nice. I don't think I've ever had a bad experience with anyone from there
[02:18:22] <miss0r> like phone based tech support
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[02:32:14] <miss0r> why people use TiN coated endmills for alu is beyond me!
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[02:49:08] <Deejay> moin
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[04:11:02] <Loetmichel> *haach ja*... battery management tools in notebooks... just got my "car" notebook back out of the wintercar, charged it after not using it for half a year: runnung time 20 min of formerly about 3 hours... Battery management says "battery condition: good!"... i wonder what the performance is if that tool says "bad"...
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[05:44:43] <XXCoder> miss0r watching orange minion restore on that channel
[05:45:00] <XXCoder> sadly that one dont have captions nor text
[05:49:37] <XXCoder> oh finally some text on video
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[05:50:12] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com if curious
[05:54:45] <jthornton> morning
[05:56:10] <XXCoder> hey jt :)
[05:56:44] <XXCoder> jt man im getting addicted to that channel.
[05:57:20] <XXCoder> TAA = Tysytube anonomous ;)
[06:02:59] <jthornton> is that the same one that blackened the metal in rapeseed oil?
[06:03:15] <XXCoder> nah different one, that was vise
[06:03:26] <XXCoder> that one looks like pretty old style hard case light
[06:03:38] <jthornton> I mean same channel?
[06:03:44] <XXCoder> oh! yeah
[06:04:01] <XXCoder> he makes pretty amazing videos. he started just couple months ago!
[06:04:04] <XXCoder> so its new channel
[06:04:19] <XXCoder> already at 49k subs tho, not a surpise
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[06:19:13] <Tom_itx> morning
[06:19:22] <XXCoder> hey tom
[06:23:16] <jthornton> looks like snow here today and tonight but gone by thursday
[06:23:42] <jthornton> opps gone by friday with a high of 53f
[06:23:45] <Tom_itx> 20°F Hi 39
[06:23:57] <Tom_itx> not quite as chilly as yesterday
[06:24:52] <jthornton> we are about the same here today 27.3°F in the roost box
[06:25:16] <Tom_itx> looks like the bulk of it is SE of you
[06:26:53] <Tom_itx> are they less active in the cold?
[06:27:11] <XXCoder> watching balance weights restore
[06:27:18] <XXCoder> 1920s one
[06:28:02] <jthornton> when it's cold and windy they huddle up but if it's not windy or rainy they move around normally
[06:30:55] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com
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[07:16:18] <jthornton> I wonder what this means "10-point touch capacity for virtual keyboards and multi-touch applications " https://www.amazon.com
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[07:19:23] <jthornton> https://www.asus.com
[07:19:26] <XXCoder> 10 touch at same time
[07:19:36] <jthornton> cool you can type on it with more than one finger
[07:19:44] <XXCoder> yeah
[07:20:12] <XXCoder> touch screen screen fo 171 bucks? pretty cheap I think?
[07:21:55] <jthornton> yea every chicken coop needs a touch monitor lol
[07:22:08] <XXCoder> lol
[07:22:15] <XXCoder> im pretty sure small ones is real cheap
[07:22:43] <jthornton> I have a 7" raspberry pi touch monitor but the keyboard is just too small lol
[07:23:24] <XXCoder> theres interesting hacks to get eink device as variouis stuff but dunno
[07:25:43] <XXCoder> https://www.element14.com
[07:26:53] <jthornton> interesting
[07:27:12] <XXCoder> its not very easy to drive directly without fairly expensive driver sadly
[07:27:16] <XXCoder> there is few out there
[07:28:25] <XXCoder> http://essentialscrap.com for example
[07:29:59] <XXCoder> http://essentialscrap.com something you would like I guess
[07:32:52] <jthornton> well qt5 gives me errors on the RPi and qt4 does not so I'll use qt4 for now lol
[07:33:11] <XXCoder> lol
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[12:38:35] <Lcvette> pcw_mesa some old school baby servo drives
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[14:24:57] <pcw_mesa> Lcvette: interesting, I forget, are those analog or PWM?
[14:27:46] <Lcvette> pwm
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[14:28:13] <Lcvette> spindle board too
[14:28:13] <Lcvette> circa 1993
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[14:29:26] <pcw_mesa> no funny parts so probably reparable should something break
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[14:40:44] <Loetmichel> btw: got the new "original" battery for the Samsung note3 today. for 6.82€ including shipping on ebay. And i must say: its either really an original one or a perfect copy. Couldnt find any difference to the one that was in the GT-N9005 other than that it lasts longer than 3 hours AND has a oc 2018 datecode instead of a nov 2013 one... which is not a bad lifetime for a liion flat pack to be
[14:40:44] <Loetmichel> honest... ;)
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[14:51:35] <gregcnc> pulled out an old canon SD300 for the kids to play with original battery still works
[14:53:10] <Loetmichel> is that li* or Ni* battery chemistry?
[14:53:17] <gregcnc> li
[14:53:25] <Loetmichel> amazing
[14:54:39] <Loetmichel> my canon A20 still wors, too... but only for about 10 pictures per charge
[14:54:45] <Loetmichel> its a lot older thouhg
[14:54:52] <Loetmichel> s/a20/s20
[14:54:57] <gregcnc> kids are making lego stop motion
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[15:02:19] <MarcelineVQ> hehe neat, that brings back memories
[15:07:40] <gregcnc> if I built stuff, it had to be very orderly. houses had courses of the same color and overlapped neatly to be strong
[15:08:03] <gregcnc> they just do whatever and call it "color hotel"
[15:08:27] <gregcnc> that is to say when i built stuff as a kid
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[16:01:38] <Connor> Resuming work on my G0704 CNC after a long while being in parts.. the SSD I had was bad.. so, reloading LCNC for the first time in 2 or more years. Well.. since switching from Ubuntu to Debian
[16:03:07] <Connor> It was original setup with Parallel port, then was switching over to MESA. I completely forgot everything about how it was setup.. I'm even going to have to go back and retrace wiring and stuff.. :(
[16:21:14] * JT-Shop thought what the heck you have leather gloves on you don't need to turn off the electric fence to tighten up a few standoffs... BAAAZZZAAPP right on the tip of my ring finger and it still hurts and I love my electric fence
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[16:53:18] <Deejay> gn8
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[16:55:10] <XXCoder> wow!!
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[16:55:11] <XXCoder> https://www.popularmechanics.com
[16:55:28] <XXCoder> wonder what Jamie is doing since mythbuster? well this is it
[17:02:40] <andypugh> Seems like a reasnably good idea, but possibly starting with the wrong vehicle.
[17:02:55] <renesis> its unmanned?
[17:03:05] <andypugh> Extremely cheap would be a better starting point, these things need to be disposable.
[17:03:09] <XXCoder> renesis: automous or remote control yeah
[17:03:27] <renesis> k because aluminum basically means its suicidal
[17:03:34] <XXCoder> dunno disposable and unbreakable in fires dunno
[17:03:35] <andypugh> Autonomous would be gool, but too hard and too pointless.
[17:04:00] <andypugh> Remote piloted is just going to be a whole lot more adaptable.
[17:04:03] <XXCoder> andypugh: I suspect its not to fight fires all on its own but rather break really hot spots
[17:04:35] <XXCoder> then fire fighters can supress rest of fire around it and not get hurt or killed
[17:04:38] <andypugh> (Imagine seeing someone that it would be possible to rescue on the monitors, but the autonomous code not having that imagination)
[17:04:44] <MarcelineVQ> semi-autonomous is the path
[17:05:06] <MarcelineVQ> So you can run a routine and have one pilot running a couple at once, among other advantages
[17:05:11] <andypugh> I drive a fire engine, you know :-)
[17:06:35] <XXCoder> nice
[17:07:35] <andypugh> In fact, here I am driving the fire engine. https://goo.gl
[17:07:50] <MarcelineVQ> another completely reasonable route is partition rifts, covered trenches essentially, that can collapse into fire breaks with a button press, I'm sure nothing could go wrong there :>
[17:07:56] <andypugh> It’s not particularly practical in the context we are discussing.
[17:08:03] <XXCoder> looks like resposible and attenative driving ;)
[17:08:03] <MarcelineVQ> *route for wildfires
[17:08:26] <XXCoder> andypugh: love the classic one tho!
[17:08:37] <MarcelineVQ> andypugh: I've got that as a christmas ornament :>
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[17:09:38] <andypugh> XXCoder: I am clearly showing someone a number, but I have no idea where or when
[17:10:25] <XXCoder> was it voting stuff? well gonna go to work katers
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[19:54:53] <Lcvette> is it normal for some systems to not use the index signal from axis servos on feedback?
[19:55:51] <Lcvette> this little mchine does not show the index signal going to the controller for x and z, only for the spindle
[19:56:04] * Lcvette uploaded an image: Rhino DB50 Pinout.png (97KB) < https://matrix.org >
[19:56:34] <Lcvette> this is the only connector that connects the lathe to the controller, it is a 50 pin DB50 connector
[20:00:15] <andypugh> If you trust the home switches then it is pretty common to ignore the axis indexes
[20:00:48] <andypugh> They can give you a more accurate home, but that is all they are good for.
[20:02:26] <Lcvette> ok
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[20:05:19] <Lcvette> i suppose i trust them?
[20:05:22] <Lcvette> lol
[20:05:27] <Lcvette> never used this machine before
[20:05:28] <Lcvette> lol
[20:06:48] <gregcnc> If the mfg did i suppose you could
[20:06:50] <andypugh> It matters if you want to shut the machine down and continue a job the next day.
[20:07:10] <gregcnc> right, check the homing when you get it running and index if you like
[20:07:19] <andypugh> Otherwise you might be better saving the pins for other jobs.
[20:08:34] <gregcnc> that bit you posted yesterday said somehting about 3 index signals/rev on the spindle?
[20:09:52] <Lcvette> yeah, the spindle encoder is overdriven 3:1 so i will just make it a 1:1 belt ratio
[20:10:00] <Lcvette> that should resolve that issue
[20:10:05] <gregcnc> what is resolution?
[20:10:25] <Lcvette> no clue
[20:10:38] <gregcnc> probably plenty
[20:11:10] <Lcvette> couldn't find anything in the literature i have on it
[20:11:49] <Lcvette> i would think so?
[20:12:02] <Lcvette> although it is pretty tiny
[20:12:34] <gregcnc> that setup just seems odd
[20:13:31] <Lcvette> yeah
[20:13:47] <Lcvette> not sure if they had threading even back then on it
[20:13:54] <Lcvette> certainly not rigid tapping
[20:14:03] <Lcvette> so it may have just been used as a tachometer
[20:14:15] <Lcvette> but im not sure
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[20:16:53] <Lcvette> ```
[20:19:03] <gregcnc> Is the mill making parts?
[20:19:17] <Lcvette> no
[20:19:25] <Lcvette> still working on the gui
[20:20:57] <gregcnc> did you get closed loop stepper working?
[20:22:58] <Lcvette> got it working, but it ran pretty rough that way
[20:23:06] <Lcvette> ended up going back to open loop
[20:23:11] <Lcvette> was servos
[20:23:38] <gregcnc> oh that's right
[20:24:10] <gregcnc> there was a YT recently about closed loop steppers
[20:45:08] <Lcvette> yeah?
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[21:38:29] <{HD}> Anyone have a foss dwg/svg/dxf to R12_dxf converter? I found draftsight but requires a net activation and this comp no net...
[21:40:26] <Tom_itx> foss?
[21:41:19] <MarcelineVQ> free open source software
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[21:43:58] <weenerdog> howdy
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[22:10:23] <{HD}> What MarcelineVQ said
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