#linuxcnc | Logs for 2018-12-13

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[00:27:48] <ziper> Tom_L, foam cutting router table
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[04:29:48] <Deejay> moin
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[05:14:18] <XXCoder> hey andypugh
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[05:45:58] <Tom_L> morning
[05:46:22] <XXCoder> hey tom
[05:48:37] <jthornton> morning
[05:48:42] <XXCoder> hey
[05:50:27] <Tom_L> 46�F, Hi 43, Lo 30
[05:50:44] <Tom_L> heading the wrong way
[05:51:23] <jthornton> 45°F -> 53°F and rain
[05:51:41] <Tom_L> at least they were wrong about the rain here so far
[05:51:49] <XXCoder> more rain. more wind.
[05:52:07] <XXCoder> low 45f high 47f
[05:52:27] <Tom_L> they said it was gonna be real windy today but it's calm out right now
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[07:09:46] <SpeedEvil> Wow. i have managed to rust shut a pair of calipers.
[07:09:55] <SpeedEvil> A plastic pair of calipers.
[07:10:04] <XXCoder> lol bolt in center rusted?
[07:10:16] <SpeedEvil> wire.
[07:12:27] <XXCoder> ahh
[07:34:51] <XXCoder> hemp is legal in usa. about time
[07:35:06] <XXCoder> its far better material for some uses
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[07:38:18] <jthornton> I didn't know it was not legal...
[07:38:37] <XXCoder> its been not for most states for long time
[07:39:09] <XXCoder> since pot has been schedule 1 (level of heroin and such but hardly that bad), related plants hemp was also banned
[07:39:16] <XXCoder> you cant get buzz off hemp.
[07:40:53] <jthornton> I thought you could get hemp rope for a long time?
[07:41:26] <XXCoder> likely from outside usa or maybe in legal hemp areas?
[07:46:29] <XXCoder> in any case its legal to grow anywhere now
[07:46:43] <XXCoder> just dont grow female versions as thats still illegal in many states
[07:47:50] <jthornton> how do you not grow female versions?
[07:48:00] <XXCoder> uproot it
[07:48:03] <jthornton> and you can grow pot here now up to 6 plants
[07:48:25] <XXCoder> nice. not sure what limitions is in wa
[07:48:29] <XXCoder> legal though
[07:50:27] <XXCoder> other material I hope becomes cpommon soon is bamboo
[07:50:42] <XXCoder> literally grows like grass, no uprooting to harvest, just cut and let regrow
[07:50:49] <XXCoder> more processing though
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[08:05:34] <jthornton> my buddy has bamboo growing on his property by the river
[08:05:48] <XXCoder> nice though careful bamboo is very hard to kill
[08:06:08] <XXCoder> if native its fine though as long as carefully not allow near any house
[08:06:15] <jthornton> I think it was there when they bought the property
[08:06:37] <jthornton> it's only hunting land
[08:06:44] <XXCoder> i get sad if I see "oh I left bamboo in pot, it broke out and now its everywhere"
[08:06:49] <XXCoder> and bamboo isnt native to land
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[09:35:46] <jesseg> XXCoder, Don't worry about being sad when bamboo breaks out of its pot in a non-native land and goes wild. It's just natural selection and the survival of the fittest. The bamboo, by its cunning looks, has formed a symbiotic relationship with some species which transport it to richer soils, and it's all just nature :P
[09:37:31] <jesseg> jthornton, so the bamboo is OK in wet soil then? I was thinking about taking out a 100 foot tall cottonwood tree by my pond and house and putting in timber bamboo for shade instead
[09:37:40] <jesseg> but then I read it doesn't like wet soil
[09:37:51] <jesseg> and naturally it's wet by the pond
[09:40:26] <JT-Shop> jesseg: I'm not sure exactly where the bamboo is on my buddies property
[09:41:01] <jesseg> JT-Shop, oh gotcha, in other words it might be up on higher ground
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[09:41:15] <JT-Shop> aye
[09:41:39] <JT-Shop> he just brings me some when I need to make plant climbing things
[09:42:47] <jesseg> lol cool
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[09:57:43] <jesseg> JT-Shop, think this is a scam? https://www.amazon.com
[09:57:54] <jesseg> I know bamboo seeds are very difficult to sprout
[09:58:20] <hazzy-m> we had several acres of thick bamboo forest in an old deserted lot near our house growing up, it was great fun to play in and build forts with, but about 5 years ago it just started dieing and there is not one left. I wonder if it wears out the soil or something
[09:58:23] <jesseg> and I know if they didn't sprout, it'd be past the return time so pretty much I'm guaranteed to loose my $1.96
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[09:59:01] <jthornton> well the reviews say it all lol
[09:59:05] <jesseg> hazzy-m, that does sound like the perfect place for kids
[09:59:55] <hazzy-m> man, we had a blast
[09:59:58] <jesseg> jthornton, you can't really tell from the reviews.. Bamboo is very difficult to sprout.. I would not expect the average amazon customer to have any success sprouting them.
[10:00:33] <jthornton> you never can tell
[10:00:37] <jesseg> yeah
[10:01:26] <hazzy-m> my dad and sister for scale: https://i.imgur.com
[10:01:45] * jthornton heads for the industrial park to do some trouble shooting and :) make a bit of money
[10:01:51] <jesseg> and obviously there's a thriving scam culture going on with fake seeds -- all based on the idea that by the time you realize the seed doesn't sprout the return period is up
[10:02:06] <jesseg> https://www.amazon.com
[10:02:27] <pcw_home> I read "it's only hunting land" as "the Bamboo is only hunting land"
[10:02:35] <jesseg> wow hazzy-m that is amazing
[10:02:43] <jthornton> I only buy seeds from https://www.rareseeds.com
[10:04:03] <pcw_home> Our neighbors have Arundo Donax and its really invasive
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[10:04:25] <SpeedEvil> Biological control is best.
[10:04:30] <SpeedEvil> Just buy a packet of pandas.
[10:05:10] <pcw_home> Yeah luckily our sheep eat it when it pop out of the ground on our side of the fence
[10:05:46] <jesseg> jthornton, hmm, looks like rareseeds.com hasn't any bamboo
[10:05:53] <pcw_home> beforw we got sheep it was a constant job with the pick
[10:05:55] <jesseg> maybe bamboo just doesn't grow from seed
[10:15:01] <jesseg> I think I'm gonna totally waste $2 on "bamboo seeds." Probably I'm getting bamboozled (lol) but everyone does stupid things and this is me doing it :P
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[11:49:30] <jthornton> yippe I'm done working at the industrial park for the week now I need to decide if I want to make some Spyder exhaust headers or just putz around
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[12:10:19] <jdh> what dis you get to play with?
[12:11:03] <jthornton> about a hundred or more fun projects half ass started and not finished lol
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[12:51:47] <Tom_L> jthornton, did they pay enough to buy lunch?
[12:57:37] <JT-Shop2> yea I got 5 meatballs and a diet soda lol
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[13:14:01] <andypugh> XXCoder: Left the computer logged in by mistake when I went to bed
[13:18:43] <JT-Shop> andypugh: he is sleeping I'd bet
[13:46:13] <JT-Shop> it's bad when you have to listen to the same tune forever while on hold waiting for the next service person
[13:49:44] <JT-Shop> your wait is currently more than 5 minutes hang up, explode or give up...
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[14:12:46] <Tom_L> give up and wait another 20 min listening to the same crap music on a horrible connection
[14:13:34] <Tom_L> they should at least offer you a playlist
[14:14:20] <Tom_L> and why is it always 3x louder than their voice?
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[14:27:49] <JT-Shop> back from lunch and still on hold listening to that crappy scratchy tune over and over lol
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[15:22:57] <gregcnc> wtf is up with the bomb threats
[15:23:42] <JT-Shop> where at?
[15:33:43] <JT-Shop> so they told me a micro sd card is not the same as a full size sd card and won't work with that game camera
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[15:38:06] <JT-Shop> https://kb.sandisk.com
[15:38:20] <JT-Shop> everything you wanted to know about sd cards
[15:59:54] <andypugh> I found an interesting cam using a reuleaux triangle in “507 Mechanical movements” and decided to model it.
[15:59:55] <andypugh> reuleaux triangle
[16:00:17] <andypugh> https://photos.app.goo.gl
[16:00:22] <XXCoder> jesseg: im concerned only if non-native. one you linked to is clumping so should be fairly safe.
[16:00:47] <andypugh> It’s quite neat, it pauses motion for 60 degrees at two points int he cycle.
[16:02:04] <XXCoder> hey andypugh i found an issue im not sure how to solve, one file needs +x permission but local copy has that bit enabled, but repo dont
[16:02:25] <XXCoder> so when i copy configuration it cant run till i set +x then it works fine
[16:04:03] <andypugh> Which file?
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[16:08:09] <XXCoder> the vismach file
[16:08:28] <XXCoder> 2.7 version is rolfmill, and 2.8 is 3axis-tutorial
[16:08:36] <XXCoder> (no file extension)
[16:12:37] <XXCoder> I really should write a tutoral page for it, but dunno how to write docs
[16:19:10] <Net|> looking rough for the first prototype https://www.thingiverse.com
[16:22:06] <jthornton> XXCoder: you just write them with a text editor
[16:22:24] <XXCoder> not how to :)
[16:22:30] <XXCoder> how to say it etc
[16:22:37] <jthornton> ah ok
[16:23:05] <XXCoder> comments is easier as its just follow process
[16:23:11] <Deejay> gn8
[16:23:22] <XXCoder> tutorials should have more details as well as nicer language etc
[16:23:26] <andypugh> XXCoder: The version in Master seems to already have execute permissions
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[16:23:44] <XXCoder> hmm maybe its just 2.7 version rolfmill
[16:24:32] <XXCoder> i went in (surpising long) sample configurations, picked rolfmill and made a local copy. it didnt work, and when i looked at orginial location it didnt have +x either
[16:26:44] <andypugh> It should have now
[16:26:45] <methods_> https://unix.stackexchange.com
[16:27:18] <XXCoder> methods_: that doesnt apply
[16:27:27] <XXCoder> its not a download
[16:30:05] <XXCoder> andypugh: you fixed it? thanks :) how do people give certain permissions on git anyway like +X
[16:30:51] <andypugh> https://stackoverflow.com
[16:31:53] <XXCoder> interesting. thanks :)
[16:32:22] <XXCoder> i should get 2.7 source and change rolfmill to 3axis-tutorial like 2.8 version later
[16:35:55] <jthornton> the 2.8 configuration should be different than 2.7
[16:36:15] <XXCoder> so just leave it as rolfmill?
[16:36:57] <jthornton> no, I meant the contents should be different because of changes to 2.8 like VERSION = 1.0 must be in 2.8 ini file
[16:37:11] <XXCoder> yeah saw differences in 2.8
[16:37:38] <XXCoder> i dont plan to simply copy over but make seperate edits
[16:38:35] <jthornton> that's what I do when stuff is different
[16:38:56] * jthornton wonders if he ever got git straightened out on this new PC???
[16:40:09] <XXCoder> 2.7 is in branch simply named 2.7 correct?
[16:41:57] <XXCoder> it is, saw andy's commit
[16:42:46] <XXCoder> not enough time for me to do anything now later maybe
[16:42:56] <XXCoder> 20 minutes before going to work
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[17:05:47] <jthornton> see you in the morning
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[17:19:29] <gloops> Russia's state-of-the-art robot exposed as man in costume https://www.lbc.co.uk
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[20:08:53] <MarcelineVQ> russian bots eh...
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