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[00:33:07] <veek> https://www.searspartsdirect.com
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[00:59:02] <veek> how does the quill in a drill press, move wrt the container for the quill (how does the feed handle mechanism work - how are they able to move a rotating chuck)
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[01:01:33] <ziper> I thought it was just a long spline
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[01:33:37] <PL7icnc> hi got 12inches of snow here
[01:33:48] <PL7icnc> Need For Shuffle
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[02:00:21] <XXCoder> veek: nice video
[02:16:41] <XXCoder> LOL https://www.youtube.com
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[02:44:29] <veek> XXCoder, did you check out his lubricity tester :) for lubricants.. he's taken a bearing element out of it's housing and mounted it in a non-rotating direction to a rotating bearing race (because bearings are manufactured to a high tolerance so consistent results) then he rotates the race using a motor+pulley and dumps lubricant on - to see how the bearing element erodes :)
[02:44:59] <XXCoder> nope
[02:45:06] <veek> https://www.youtube.com
[02:46:17] <XXCoder> watching
[02:54:44] <veek> XXCoder, check out this as well, it's machining art https://www.youtube.com
[02:54:57] <veek> effing brilliant!
[02:55:02] <XXCoder> will do once video im watching is done
[02:55:09] <veek> they should screen that at cannes or whatever
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[02:59:05] <veek> that part where he splits the block of steel with a couple of dowels is especially awesome
[02:59:14] <XXCoder> lol yeah hes in my sub list
[02:59:17] <XXCoder> watched before
[02:59:58] <XXCoder> i learned trick of using wire for vise unevenness when making true squares
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[03:03:24] <XXCoder> so far my favorite is feeding cat steel and getting nuts and bolts as poop
[03:04:23] <veek> hoo link? man :( I did not know about that blue stuff he used :( 'marking blue'
[03:04:25] <XXCoder> oh lol its done in that video
[03:04:35] <XXCoder> its called blue
[03:04:37] <XXCoder> yeah
[03:04:46] <XXCoder> machinist blue
[03:05:25] <XXCoder> dykeem machinist blue is most common brand
[03:05:36] <XXCoder> one e'
[03:06:12] <veek> we can mix our own :) prepared by mixing Prussian blue with a non-drying oily material (for example, grease)
[03:06:47] <XXCoder> clickgear he felt that orginially it was candle soot, from burning candle into part
[03:07:03] <XXCoder> (hovering part right above fire)
[03:07:13] <XXCoder> he used it that way and it was very workable
[03:07:50] <Wolf__> I like blue sharpie
[03:08:09] <XXCoder> I just use perment marker for some uses
[03:09:05] <veek> 'It's the same for large boulders. He didn't show how to score the breakage line, so the secret's still safe. TOT, that was close... maybe too close.'
[03:09:38] <Wolf__> hmm 1204 ball screws or T8-8 lead screws for my plasma machine…
[03:12:30] <Wolf__> I got lazy (no spare time) so I got a open build sphinx plate set https://imgur.com
[03:13:31] <XXCoder> veek: that video I love the endimng
[03:13:57] <XXCoder> wowrather large one
[03:14:12] <Wolf__> 1m x 1.5m
[03:14:21] <XXCoder> is it plasma?
[03:14:46] <Wolf__> thats the plan, I need to order some mesa for it
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[03:15:02] <XXCoder> nice
[03:15:21] <Wolf__> trying to make up my mind for the x/y drive tho, acme, ball screw or belt
[03:16:18] <XXCoder> dont belt have bit issues with speed if theres enough mass
[03:16:41] <Wolf__> I think all 3 have issue with speed lol
[03:16:42] <XXCoder> besides that I dunno, it suffers zero sideload so as long as it reliably moves it doesnt matter?
[03:17:32] <Wolf__> yeah no real slide load other then the torch lead
[03:18:04] <XXCoder> yeah only sideload is changing directions at speed
[03:18:39] <Wolf__> most of my cuts are going to be 3/16”+ so its not going to be rocking any thing quickly
[03:19:42] <Wolf__> I’m leaning towards 8mm x 8mm 4 start acme just because its simple, plate set was made to use it
[03:21:28] <XXCoder> more starts the faster right?
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[03:22:12] <Wolf__> yeah, 8mm per rotation
[03:24:30] <Wolf__> I could go 12mm ball screw with 4mm pitch but I may have to mess with the plates to make that work
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[03:34:20] <Deejay> moin
[03:40:20] <veek> in a drill press arbor, which is the major dia and the minor dia https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com (there are two truncated cones)
[03:40:35] <veek> isn't there a book that explains all this stuff :(
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[03:50:52] <Wolf__> ugh, guess T8 x8mm acme it is for this build, I need working soon > super accurate anyways lol
[03:51:16] <XXCoder> dont think it'll make much difference anyway
[03:51:24] <XXCoder> maybe get backlash nut then done
[03:51:58] <Wolf__> going to use the open builds backlash nut with it
[03:52:38] <Wolf__> should be fun to see how fast the thing wears with use lol
[03:52:56] <XXCoder> yeah
[03:54:01] <Wolf__> but I only need weld fitment and rubber grommet accuracy =D
[03:55:29] <XXCoder> yeah you have huge flexability on this due to low precision needs
[03:56:07] <gloops> i had a t8 screw on z was fine, ill use them for my lathe short axis
[03:56:30] <Wolf__> https://imgur.com =)
[03:56:39] <gloops> they also do a t10 of those cheapo chinese screws on ebay
[03:56:54] <Wolf__> just ordered 2x 2000mm T8x8 for that thing
[03:57:23] <gloops> well, the issue with 2m is whip at that diameter
[03:57:46] <Wolf__> rapids aren’t on that thing lol
[03:58:42] <Wolf__> already know thats a issue
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[03:58:49] <gloops> should be ok then, i got some extra nuts for pennies for mine, if you can get some very thin shim even paper i guess, bolt the nuts together with shim, no backlash
[03:59:12] <Wolf__> https://openbuildspartstore.com
[03:59:20] <gloops> just need something to spring the 2 apart
[03:59:37] <Wolf__> time crunch build sorta here, need it up and making parts soon
[03:59:38] <gloops> not used the anti-backlash nuts
[04:01:33] <gloops> there isnt much backlash in them anyway, although i suppose it would grow with a lot of use
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[04:04:53] <Wolf__> also its not 2m axis, the long side of the machine is only 1500mm
[04:06:45] <gloops> https://www.ebay.co.uk
[04:06:56] <gloops> these are only £2 on the mainland now anyway
[04:07:14] <Wolf__> yeah, the screws I ordered have those included
[04:08:33] <Wolf__> but this is the view in my shop right now https://i.imgur.com and I have 3 more trucks waiting outside
[04:08:41] <gloops> youre looking at about 350 rpm according to the calculator, 8mm pitch = 2800mm/min
[04:08:55] <Wolf__> dont have the time to machine anything lol
[04:09:44] <gloops> lol, well better to have no time than only time i guess
[04:10:02] <Wolf__> somewhat
[04:10:18] <gloops> ive had several goes at launching my router into a profitable status, too busy atm
[04:10:19] <Wolf__> need some time to get shop improvements done
[04:11:27] <gloops> cant really leave other work that pays much more to play with a router, i just keep putting a little bit more in place to be ready with it
[04:11:35] <gloops> then when the iron is hot...!!
[04:12:26] <Wolf__> my problem is for example today i got in the shop at 10am, got home at 12am
[04:13:42] <gloops> you could do with training a lad up, or some old bloke looking for something to pass the time
[04:15:28] <Wolf__> wish is was that simple, I’m dong everything from simple fab work to custom bent hydraulic hard lines and electrical system integration on these trucks
[04:17:22] <gloops> surprising though, it can be a big relief if you can just leave someone plodding on with one thing while you work on something else - its getting them to the point where they can be left with something
[04:17:38] <Wolf__> compound angle bending makes my head hurt https://imgur.com
[04:19:15] <gloops> my mate posted a vid of a new machine hes got, cuts pipe ends for welding, pretty neat thing
[04:19:44] <Wolf__> those things are cool
[04:20:05] <Wolf__> pipe welding on the other hand, not so much fun lol
[04:21:31] <gloops> https://www.facebook.com
[04:21:41] <gloops> dunno if youd have to be a friend to watch
[04:22:14] <XXCoder> its global
[04:22:20] <gloops> the welding is easy when that bit is done lol
[04:23:13] <Wolf__> ooo that’s not what I was expecting, plasma tube notcher, nice
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[04:24:09] <gloops> he makes chassis for kit cars
[04:25:34] <XXCoder> it does look nice yeah
[04:25:41] <XXCoder> makes making framing much easier
[04:26:41] <Wolf__> when I hear pipe cutting http://hmpipe.com is what comes to mind
[04:28:49] <gloops> saves all the hassle with an angle grinder
[04:29:22] <XXCoder> probably need to grind surfaces though
[04:38:06] <gloops> well anything that cuts prep time down is a bonus, i suppose if you were doing a lot of work it wouldnt need a skilled operator for those things
[04:38:22] <XXCoder> indeed
[04:38:29] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com new fordboy casting
[04:40:11] <gloops> something id like to get into lol
[04:40:27] <gloops> scrap aluminium everywhere round here
[04:40:35] <XXCoder> stream assisted interesting
[04:41:33] <XXCoder> nice
[04:41:48] <XXCoder> I want to try casting but only comparateky low temperate alloys
[04:43:05] <gloops> i saw one of those blacksmiths kiln things, i bet they would work for melting alloys
[04:43:23] <gloops> they get a horseshoe glowing yellow, no fires or smoke or anything
[04:43:26] <XXCoder> yeah. plan to play with wood casts
[04:43:31] <XXCoder> since temperate is low enough
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[04:45:03] <gloops> in fact, an electric cooker ring
[04:45:24] <XXCoder> im considering 75c to 100c
[04:45:38] <gloops> (probably burn the element though if insulated)
[04:45:39] <XXCoder> which can be easily melted by say 3d printer hotend lol
[04:46:15] <gloops> ive not seen those kind of alloys, my main interest was aluminium - as available free lol
[04:46:40] <XXCoder> i want to try alum too but neighborhood dont really permit that
[04:46:43] <XXCoder> maybe when has shop
[04:47:23] <gloops> im ok occassionally, think something would be said if it was regular lol
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[05:04:48] <veek> man ball screw design is quite clever.. who'd have thought of sticking balls under a nut to reduce friction - it's like a mini bearing for the threaded-contact portion
[05:05:24] <veek> but on the other hand once you create bearings :) it seems so obvious heh
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[05:06:23] <XXCoder> i guess so yeah
[05:06:32] <XXCoder> we have supoer precision bearing balls now so yeah
[05:06:40] <XXCoder> you ever seen that video
[05:06:52] <veek> yeah :) https://www.youtube.com this one ?
[05:07:04] <XXCoder> no
[05:07:31] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com i think
[05:07:46] <veek> heck we need an awesome videos bot :)
[05:08:20] <veek> it'll tell us if there are duplicates and we can categorize emm
[05:09:28] <XXCoder> more details on balls themselves https://www.youtube.com
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[05:11:31] <veek> f! all my childhood Q's answered one-by-one - man-o-man
[05:11:50] <XXCoder> heh yeah
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[05:22:32] <XXCoder> veek: bearings is really cheap at aliexpress lol
[05:22:46] <XXCoder> 2 mm 50 peices not even a dollar
[05:23:07] <XXCoder> though I'd build a size sorter at home to sort em
[05:26:29] <XXCoder> with bearings that cheap can buy so much for evil pranks.
[05:26:44] <XXCoder> 10mm ones, under 5 usd for 50 of em
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[05:45:41] <jthornton> morning
[05:46:29] <XXCoder> hey jt
[05:51:41] <XXCoder> jt I was bored and after talking about bearings, I looked up bearings at aliexpress
[05:51:53] <XXCoder> prices is nuts, though I bet yuou tols are bit ranged also
[05:52:44] <jthornton> what kind of bearings?
[05:52:52] <XXCoder> just bearing balls.
[05:53:05] <XXCoder> sorry doidnt specify balls lol
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[06:04:30] <jthornton> lol I'm watching 6 videos at once using the skew chisel
[06:04:36] <jthornton> only 2 are cc
[06:06:06] <veek> XXCoder, but how do they create the rings for the bearings?? like how do they join them up? that's not shown
[06:06:17] <XXCoder> first video does
[06:06:39] <veek> nope .. starts off with fully formed rings
[06:06:54] <XXCoder> it does show em being made on automated lathe
[06:06:57] <XXCoder> then finished
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[06:11:09] <XXCoder> man
[06:11:12] <XXCoder> hes insane https://www.youtube.com
[06:11:52] <XXCoder> dont worry he gets to main event evenually. he always do weird start of video.,
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[06:23:58] <veek> yeah that's a frigging awesome video - wish i knew what he was actually doing .. as in he's taking a casting/mold - there's a subreddit for that vacuum forming and then he literally makes a knife blade out of milk
[06:24:06] <veek> and tests it's hardness and stuff
[06:24:16] <XXCoder> yeah
[06:24:27] <XXCoder> he uses silicne to make mold
[06:24:34] <XXCoder> then he uses epoxy for initial part
[06:24:44] <XXCoder> then he uses uv cure unknown as coating
[06:24:55] <veek> bet it'd be useful for us.. in die making
[06:25:26] <XXCoder> the cow head handle is awesome and maybe awkward a little
[06:25:39] <XXCoder> did you see cut demo end? wow
[06:25:42] <veek> yeah
[06:25:46] <veek> totally awesome
[06:25:47] <XXCoder> its sharper than regular metal knives here
[06:26:21] <XXCoder> I'd say he could make paper knife sharp enough to really easily cut paper, except he already did that
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[06:37:40] <veek> crud i gtg dig in the garden bbl
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[06:47:40] <jthornton> dang I got banged up scrambling in the dark to get to the egg Veronica laid during the night before anyone busted it
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[07:52:23] <veek> ow my back's fscked up.. i forgot to bend at the knees
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[08:09:38] <uniqdom> Hello, I'm testing a MPCNC that has a Mini-Rambo board. Steppers are moving, but after the movement I can hear a high pitch. Also, motor drivers IC in the board are getting hot. This is a problem, right?
[08:10:04] <Loetmichel> uniqdom: depends on HOW hot
[08:10:27] <Loetmichel> and usually the steppers emit "white noise" not a high pitch whine
[08:10:42] <Loetmichel> sounds a bit like a gas leak
[08:11:28] <uniqdom> this is a high pitch, like the one you hear in TV
[08:12:10] <jthornton> anyone remember where the debian 9 iso is located at?
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[08:13:26] <veek> jthornton, https://www.debian.org
[08:14:22] <jthornton> no, I meant the one with uspace and linuxcnc on it
[08:14:30] <jthornton> we have one somewhere IIRC
[08:23:37] <jthornton> https://www.youtube.com
[08:23:52] <jthornton> wow this guy is using a spring pole lathe I think
[08:24:14] <jthornton> hmm maybe a treadle lathe
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[08:40:58] <Tom_itx> jthornton, http://www.linuxcnc.org
[08:40:59] <Tom_itx> that?
[08:41:55] <jthornton> yes, thanks
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[09:22:13] <sensille> Loetmichel: how to you do z-touchoff, and do you use the tool probe that comes with the machine?
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[09:55:45] <veek> what's the thread in this linear actuator - how is he able to move the thread forward that way? https://en.wikipedia.org
[09:56:03] <veek> is the rotor moving forward as well inside the stator
[09:57:35] <veek> Ooo nm linear motor (but in the case of that green motor?)
[09:59:33] <veek> I don't get how the distance of the thread reduces from the tip.. that's weird
[10:01:02] <veek> usually - the shaft rotates the thread and the yellow object/nut is forced forward (if it's held preventing rotation)
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[10:43:27] <PL7icnc> hi
[10:44:34] <PL7icnc> Is Andy from the Forum Somhere around
[10:45:29] <PL7icnc> Someone in Europ or Even Germany
[10:47:07] <PL7icnc> is there a Channel Log somwhere
[10:47:20] <PL7icnc> so i can Reread answers
[10:47:45] <PL7icnc> Forum is Quite good
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[10:55:09] <PL7icnc> Can i see in the Forum How is online
[10:55:24] <PL7icnc> No direct messaging i guess is posible
[10:56:11] <PL7icnc> Someone here that did Know the OLD german Guy that Build all this Education mashines
[10:57:17] <PL7icnc> im off
[10:57:45] <PL7icnc> seams only weekdays and US Timesone Responds Here
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[11:05:33] <uniqdom> My printer is partly working. I'm using a pen as a tool to do some drawings and do some calibrations. it draws, but it draws like a child.
[11:05:52] <uniqdom> I mean, my cnc
[11:19:40] <Loetmichel> sensille: i touch the workpiece with running spindle until i see a mark, then back up z 0.02 to 0.05
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[11:22:34] <HighInBC> uniqdom: probably because a child holds a pen in a fist and does not alter the angle as they write
[11:22:36] <HighInBC> like a CNC
[11:22:57] <HighInBC> the fancy signature machines have pens that change pressure and angle
[11:23:16] <uniqdom> comparison here: https://imgur.com
[11:23:45] <uniqdom> there are two images there
[11:24:09] <gregcnc> backlash? lost steps?
[11:27:20] <uniqdom> gregcnc, sorry I'm new in CNC's world, and my english is limited. I can't understand what backlash means.
[11:28:00] <uniqdom> I don't know if there are lost steps. I don't here any strange in steppers. I only hear a high pitch when the movement ends.
[11:28:15] <gregcnc> the figures are closed so probably no lost steps
[11:28:27] <uniqdom> ok
[11:29:19] <gregcnc> http://www.machinetoolhelp.com
[11:29:22] <uniqdom> backlash is related to lost steps?
[11:29:26] <uniqdom> thanks :)
[11:31:00] <gregcnc> poorly designed/built machines can be problematic
[11:34:05] <gregcnc> if this is a purchased machine /kit, search for what others have done to improve it
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[11:40:41] <uniqdom> it's a MPCNC, I will take a look
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[11:52:56] <fragalot> hey
[12:13:16] <uniqdom> hello
[12:18:26] <uniqdom> If I have the same setup for X axis and Y axis (same stepper motors), steps per millimeter should be the same in both axis, right?
[12:19:07] <fragalot> same stepper motors, same stepper driver settings (most can do microstepping), and the same leadscrews or belt setups, yes
[12:20:04] <uniqdom> The only thing that differs from both axis is the lenght.
[12:20:54] <fragalot> that's fine, the length is a different setting
[12:21:26] <uniqdom> 105 steps per mm for X axis and 121 per mm for Y. That's the setting that I have in mini-rambo board
[12:21:48] <uniqdom> so, they should be equally
[12:22:55] <fragalot> if they have the same leadscrews, yes
[12:26:38] <uniqdom> I only have a leadscrew for Z axis, if I understand correctly what a leadscrew is. for the other axis i'm using a conduit
[12:27:06] <fragalot> that's fine, what i'm trying to say is that if they're the same, your steps/mm setting will also be the same
[12:27:21] <fragalot> what linuxcnc wants to know is how many "pulses" to send to the motor controller to have it move 1 mm
[12:28:33] <fragalot> and that number depends on the motor controller settings (microstepping), the motor(steps / revolution), any mechanical gearing (pulley ratio, if applicable) and the 'pitch' of the axis (mm / revolution)
[12:30:51] <uniqdom> Oh. I have set those parameters in Marlin firmware. there should other pair of settings for steps per mm in LinuxCNC?
[12:31:16] <uniqdom> I'm still not using linuxcnc. it's still downloading, I don't have a fast internet connection here. I'm using repetier. In mini-rambo I'm using Marlin.
[12:33:52] <fragalot> I don't think linuxCNC does what you think it does if you are using Marlin and repetier
[12:34:45] <uniqdom> If I understand it well, I can change repetier by linuxcnc, right?
[12:35:12] <fragalot> you can, but you'll have to throw the board that currently runs Marlin out the window
[12:36:02] <fragalot> and replace it with a linuxcnc compatible breakout-board, which you'll then wire into the stepper drivers
[12:36:04] <uniqdom> lol.. I see
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[13:12:31] <gloops> anywhere near the yellow vest rioting fragalot?
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[13:17:52] <sensille> Loetmichel: and same procedure for tool changes within a program?
[13:19:06] <fragalot> gloops: nah
[13:19:12] <fragalot> just came back from the UK
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[15:05:35] <syyl> fragalot!
[15:05:43] <syyl> i ship tomorrow morning
[15:06:18] <syyl> at the dawn of light, walking trough the snow to the post office, fighting wolves.
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[15:06:36] <fragalot> syyl: Sweet :-)
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[15:46:20] <miss0r2> fragalot
[15:46:24] <miss0r2> Where you been ? :)
[15:46:57] <miss0r2> fragalot: I got license plates on the landrover
[15:48:01] <fragalot> miss0r2: been working. (read: visited the inlaws)
[15:48:20] <miss0r2> Sounds tough :]
[15:48:39] <miss0r2> I'm not sure theres a surefire way to flush all that tea from your system
[15:48:47] <fragalot> it was followed by a solid 11hrs of sleep when I got back, so yeah xD
[15:49:00] <fragalot> the tea flushes itself through my system almost instantly
[15:49:19] <miss0r2> lol
[15:49:21] <fragalot> all 3 gallons per day
[15:49:30] <miss0r2> aehm... /hour...
[15:50:32] <gloops> fragalot has been on an engineering pilgrimage to Britain
[15:50:33] <fragalot> pretty sure that if I had over 13 liters of tea per hour that'd kill a man
[15:50:45] <fragalot> gloops: social engineering, yes. :-)
[15:50:53] <gloops> he seeks the deep knowledge of the great makers
[15:50:54] <miss0r2> sure.. but not a british man :P
[15:51:12] <gloops> fragalot ahh youve been to London
[15:51:18] * miss0r2 needs to get some tea brewing skills..
[15:51:24] <fragalot> gloops: skipped london
[15:51:29] <miss0r2> One can hardly work on a land rover purely on coffee
[15:51:43] <fragalot> miss0r2: you can if you dilute it with petrol
[15:52:16] <miss0r2> Indeed.. I had a leaky petrol pump.. so I had to suck the hose to prime it once or twice.. so that is basically a given
[15:52:23] <fragalot> :D
[15:52:39] <gloops> forensics would probably uncover a lot of ancient tea stains on that landrover lol
[15:53:08] <miss0r2> gloops: well.. the old chassis would tell a story of its own - with all the old grit from off roading lodged in there
[15:53:40] <gloops> swill it out with old sump oil
[15:53:41] <miss0r2> Glad that thing is gone. The only bit of the old frame remaining is a 6x4cm piece in my keychin
[15:54:16] <miss0r2> it was close to original thickness, as it was close to the outside splash lubrication on the gearbox
[15:54:47] <gloops> the chassis reacted with the ally anyway over time
[15:54:50] <fragalot> is that thickness INCLUDING the rust buildup?
[15:55:09] <miss0r2> fragalot. Absolutly. How else would you even get close to original dimensions? :P
[15:55:14] <fragalot> paint
[15:55:23] <miss0r2> hehe and lots of it
[15:55:27] <fragalot> :D
[15:56:08] <gloops> several coats of thick fergusson enamel on a cold morning once a year kept the rust out of sight
[15:56:13] <miss0r2> I need to get some shuteye. The misses can go into labour any day now.. so I need to stay rested.
[15:56:25] <fragalot> enjoy it while you can
[15:56:43] <gloops> oh yeah, the joys...
[15:56:44] * miss0r2 remembers that part quite vividly.. thanks
[15:56:51] <miss0r2> See you around.
[15:57:15] <gloops> be strong
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[16:54:57] <Deejay> gn8
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[19:52:43] <veek> https://en.wikipedia.org what does he mean by 'perpendicular face, operating in a split nut, generates minimal disengagement force when tightened in the normally loaded direction' ?
[19:53:12] <XXCoder> reading
[19:53:20] <veek> because the nut face is parallel to the thread face?
[19:53:32] <XXCoder> see picture?
[19:53:35] <XXCoder> small one
[19:54:16] <XXCoder> thread faces is T to force, so force doesnt deform or make it extra tight
[19:54:39] <XXCoder> so you can always easily re-loosen even with huge torque pushing it towards tightening
[19:56:20] <veek> ah hmm thanks
[19:56:57] <XXCoder> no problem. theres small chance i could be wrong but yeah
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[21:26:02] <jbar> In a subroutine..............
[21:26:20] <jbar> One line: G53 G0 z1
[21:26:36] <jbar> Next Line: G0 X0 Y0
[21:27:35] <jbar> In the next line it goex to the G54 X0 Y0. Why does it do this when the previous line was G53, and no G54 was declared in the Next line ??
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[21:46:06] <skunkworks> G53 isn't modal.. You have to have it on every line you want to use it
[21:46:22] <XXCoder> yeah
[21:46:33] <XXCoder> hey all
[21:50:47] <jbar> OK, thanks.
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