#linuxcnc | Logs for 2018-12-22

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[01:13:26] <gloops> maybe they did track them then https://news.sky.com
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[01:20:52] <CaptHindsight> a few toys and >100K passengeres
[01:20:56] <CaptHindsight> ooops
[01:21:09] <CaptHindsight> passengers delayed
[01:21:15] <gloops> looking at a life sentence according to the cops
[01:21:48] <CaptHindsight> make them stand in line for 40 years
[01:22:05] <gloops> one was spotted packing a drone up - he was on a bicycle
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[01:22:40] <CaptHindsight> well we probably will never hear the real story behind this
[01:23:04] <gloops> im sure isis will be watching with interest
[01:23:24] <CaptHindsight> the only way to win is not to play
[01:23:32] <CaptHindsight> too late however
[01:26:40] <gloops> well it provided some drama for the news channels for a few days
[01:29:15] <CaptHindsight> guess i should start marketing my anti-drone drones for airports
[01:30:14] <CaptHindsight> drone with a net starting at only $499,995.00ea
[01:31:27] <CaptHindsight> batteries not included
[01:32:13] <gloops> theres a video going round of a football match - fan took BBC drone down with a toilet roll thrown at it
[01:32:37] <gloops> wrapped up in the rotors
[01:33:10] <CaptHindsight> drone with net on leash with parachute for backup landing
[01:33:44] <CaptHindsight> if the antidrone can't remain stable after tangling with the victim drone
[01:33:48] <gloops> what you really want is something to track the rogue drone operator
[01:33:59] <CaptHindsight> nah
[01:34:12] <CaptHindsight> will only catch dumb operators
[01:34:53] <gloops> pretty sure thats why they have allowed this to go on so long
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[01:37:29] <CaptHindsight> maybe this nonsense will stop when people stop following the invisible angry man in the sky
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[01:37:53] <CaptHindsight> but it worked so well for so long so naaaaahh
[01:38:32] <gloops> unlikely in this the season of halal xmas dinners
[01:40:51] <gloops> dont think theres much i can make on a cnc router that will contribute to the drone wars though
[01:41:10] <gloops> i can however make funeral urns - always an opening
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[04:12:23] <Net|> https://www.thingiverse.com
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[06:01:48] <jthornton> morning
[06:02:10] <XXCoder> hey jt
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[07:05:22] <Tom_L> morning
[07:06:28] <jthornton> morning
[07:07:02] <jthornton> 28°F mostly sunny high 51°F sounds like a nice day here
[07:09:57] <Tom_L> similar here
[07:10:26] <Tom_L> 33�F Hi 53 scattered clouds
[07:25:46] <jdh> and 1sec more daylight today!
[07:27:55] <jthornton> yes spring is on the way
[07:29:06] <methods_> spring is coming
[07:30:05] <jdh> 46f, sunny, bike time
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[07:37:26] <jthornton> I should ride the mountain bike this afternoon for a while
[07:38:20] <jthornton> last time I went out and stopped to look at something and left my carrier lid open and figured out a couple of miles later that my keys and glasses had popped out
[07:40:03] <methods_> ouch
[07:42:31] <jthornton> lucky for me I wrap stuff in shop towels to protect it so it was easy to find
[07:51:44] <methods_> ah good idea
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[07:52:04] <methods_> and you have a handy dandy towel if you need it
[07:55:08] <Loetmichel> *WAAAHH* That car wants to kid me... had a bad xenon headlight, so i went to the spareparts shop today... 45eur for a new xeonon lamp. And on getting back into the car i notice that the front license plate is missing... yesterday at work it was still there... now i have to search for that on the way home as well. OK, later. So i changed the bulb: still no light. measured: 2.5V on the arc
[07:55:08] <Loetmichel> starter module input... so now i have to find that wire knot... and then search the whole 12km to work for that dam license plate :-(
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[10:59:27] <holzjunkie1> hy @all
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[11:18:09] <Loetmichel> *maan* now i am pissy. Xenons are working. it wasnt the bulb, it was an oxidized fuse. pull, clean, put back in: works. So i bought the 45 eur bulb for nothing. And the license plate is still missing. and my brother in law (who is a german police officer) says: "goto city council, get a new tag and TWO new license plate, pay around 100eur." because someone could find the missing plate and
[11:18:09] <Loetmichel> could do shady things with it. :-(
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[11:20:33] <gloops> im double pissed off as well
[11:20:55] <gloops> found a 1hp motor for my bandsaw, collected, fitted, no good!
[11:21:23] <gloops> so on another day ill fit a 2hp
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[11:37:46] <gloops> the annoying thing is, the bit i made - the saw itself seems to be working perfectly, 22inch cut span, blade doesnt budge under resistance, everything lined in perfect, just a bloody motor to get it going
[12:01:14] <_unreal_> yay..... just got my splash mold sprayed with gelcoat finally FINALLY
[12:01:24] <_unreal_> project is @#$@#$ months behind
[12:02:19] <_unreal_> have to make the splash mold, sand it, polish it, then prep and layup the tooling mold off of the splash. so I can finally build my final part
[12:03:31] <_unreal_> Tom_L, its like 68f here :)
[12:04:01] * gloops has calmed down to 50% stuck project rage
[12:04:30] <gloops> ill change some pulleys and fiddle with some gearing, this will work
[12:08:18] <_unreal_> ?
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[13:06:44] <fragalot> 'sup
[13:23:29] <gloops> looks like they got the drone pranksters
[13:23:49] <gloops> 47 year old man and a 53 year old woman - if they are prankster
[13:23:52] <gloops> s
[13:30:21] <fragalot> let's hope they get what they deserve
[13:30:53] <fragalot> because intentionally (there is no way "didn't know") crippling an airport is acceptable.
[13:31:02] <fragalot> let alone ruining the hobby
[13:40:24] <gloops> there is talk of life sentences
[13:49:35] <gloops> 5 years max for dangerous drone flying, but the cops have found some other relevant charges, endangering lives etc
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[14:01:21] <HighInBC> the obvious solution for taking down drones seems to be a rifle
[14:01:34] <HighInBC> though I guess you have the problem of missed targets
[14:01:53] <HighInBC> they need a bullet that explode to dust after X meters
[14:02:57] <gloops> unbelievable they didnt take it down, could have been carrying semtex or dioxins etc
[14:03:35] <gregcnc> stuff like that available at the corner store?
[14:04:35] <gloops> no, but it is available
[14:04:50] <SpeedEvil> gregcnc: Tesco had buy-one-get-one-free on 2kg blocks.
[14:04:56] <SpeedEvil> I stocked up.
[14:05:05] <gregcnc> if that was the intent, it was too late once it was spotted
[14:05:25] <gloops> 2kg of semtex would have done for a lot of people in a packed airport
[14:05:43] <SpeedEvil> I would not be wholly surprised if it was an accident.
[14:05:51] <SpeedEvil> Runaway GPS loiter issue
[14:05:53] <gregcnc> there are easier targets and methods
[14:05:58] <SpeedEvil> Mis-set home location.
[14:06:09] <gloops> nah, kept returning, maybe an accident in the first place
[14:06:13] <gregcnc> but how does that happen several times?
[14:06:32] <gloops> then when he saw the mayhem he could cause, he turned into a depraved lunatic
[14:06:33] <SpeedEvil> gloops: Intermittent signal, returning to mis-set home location
[14:07:04] <SpeedEvil> (I have not investigated the time period over which it happened - if it was > flytime, then that doesn't stand up)
[14:07:08] <gregcnc> over 36 hours?
[14:07:09] <gloops> a motorist saw the bloke frantically packing the drone away at the side of the road - he was on a bicycle
[14:07:25] <SpeedEvil> Ah
[14:07:29] <HighInBC> poor planning
[14:07:30] <SpeedEvil> nvm then
[14:07:46] <gloops> stupid way to get caught, why didnt he go behind some cover
[14:07:53] <HighInBC> I would have used a 4g connection from another country
[14:08:34] <gloops> also arrested a female, dunno what her role was, maybe lookout
[14:08:44] <gloops> unless this is a terror or political cell
[14:09:18] <gregcnc> what was voted on while this was going on?
[14:09:35] <gloops> nothing, parliament is out for xmas
[14:09:56] <HighInBC> war on xmass clearly
[14:10:43] <gloops> comes with a large bill
[14:10:50] <gregcnc> they probably got bumped from a flight this summer
[14:11:55] <_unreal_> drone pranksters?
[14:13:29] <_unreal_> regardless if there is a couple doing that chances are they are part of a network of people that planned it... trying to cause or give cause for regulation.
[14:14:09] <gloops> could be a false flag yeah, whatever they call it
[14:14:26] <_unreal_> just like the MF'er from cali. That was caught tossing hundreds of thousands of straws into the ocean waters trying to PUSH for legisation to ban drinking straws
[14:14:39] <HighInBC> stupid jackassery is far more common and likely
[14:14:41] <gregcnc> i didn't see that
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[14:14:54] <_unreal_> HighInBC, not likely
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[14:15:06] <HighInBC> always bet on stupid
[14:15:52] <_unreal_> the chances that those peole have never heard of air craft not being able to go fly in a zone do to a drone is zero
[14:16:24] <HighInBC> yes but stupid includes knowingly doing stupid things
[14:16:29] <HighInBC> it was a laugh I bet
[14:16:43] <fragalot> gloops: i'm more surprised the officials didn't yet have one of those netting drones they've shown on tv
[14:17:11] <_unreal_> knowingly doing something stupid is willful
[14:17:19] <gloops> they didnt seem to have any anti-drone capabilities
[14:17:23] <_unreal_> thats not stupid. Thats will full
[14:17:32] <_unreal_> stupid = no nothing fool
[14:17:39] <HighInBC> there is ignorance and there is stupidity\
[14:17:49] <HighInBC> a stupid person can be fully informed and still do the wrong thing
[14:17:50] <gregcnc> but some can't not be stupid
[14:18:35] <gloops> i dunno, buzzing the airport might be a laugh - but possibly hundred million + costs, images of all those people on TV, kids, disabled etc
[14:18:42] <gloops> a bit beyond a joke
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[14:19:09] <_unreal_> just like a lot of these BS liberals that have been getting arrested harasing goverment people. senators, etc...... they are WILLING to take the fall to be "stupid" thats willful not ignorant
[14:19:18] <_unreal_> pre-meditated
[14:19:32] <_unreal_> pre-meditated is prob the best description in general
[14:19:50] <HighInBC> there have been more than a few cases drones getting the way of planes
[14:19:58] <gloops> how did he know they wouldnt just shoot it down though?
[14:20:02] <fragalot> my gripe is that by being idiots, they are working in the hands of those trying to ban/regulate things that didn't require any regulating in the first place
[14:20:04] <HighInBC> an airliner hit a drone once, no significant damage only by cahnce
[14:20:18] <_unreal_> HighInBC, few cases NO ARGUMENT
[14:20:19] <HighInBC> they should just ban idiocy
[14:20:23] <fragalot> HighInBC: a LOT of those have been debunked, or never proven to be a drone
[14:20:33] <gloops> if it gets sucked into the engines though
[14:20:52] <_unreal_> gloops, thats common sense, all airports are gun free zones
[14:21:15] <_unreal_> can not discharge a weapon
[14:21:16] <fragalot> _unreal_: actually there are quite a lot of guns in french airports atm
[14:21:27] <_unreal_> I'm speaking USA
[14:21:31] <fragalot> and belgian ones, though i'm not sure if the army is still patrolling there or not
[14:21:54] <gloops> same policy here re guns - unless there is an active life/death situation i think
[14:22:19] <_unreal_> lol france...... was enjoying the riots. knew they where going to happen.. thankyou macron
[14:23:13] <gregcnc> in China there were military with rifles at the airports
[14:23:14] <_unreal_> HighInBC, there are still ZERO airplane/drone strikes PEIROD
[14:23:32] <_unreal_> in the USA at least
[14:24:14] <_unreal_> no one in there right mind is going to fly a quadcopter or drone near where planes fly. A: they are expensive B: no sane person wants to take THAT kind of a risk.
[14:24:14] <fragalot> _unreal_: yeah - sadly that doesn't make for an interesting article, so the media likes to allude to there being one anyway
[14:24:46] <_unreal_> pre-meditated
[14:25:03] <_unreal_> again comes to mind.... most of the BS these days is pre-planned
[14:25:25] <gloops> its a bit like playing with traffic lights
[14:25:27] <_unreal_> be it for or aganced goverment or what ever
[14:25:53] <_unreal_> ahh.... traffic lights at least int he US are not easy to play with...
[14:26:00] <_unreal_> not sure where your going with that
[14:26:19] <gloops> unless you have some burning grudge or political point to make, the only reason to do it is for a kick, a little power trip, because you can
[14:26:46] <_unreal_> ^^ equals pre-meditated
[14:26:50] <gloops> maybe the bloke got ripped off with a flight ticket
[14:27:22] <gloops> or his ex wife was flying to barbados with her new BF
[14:27:53] <_unreal_> more like people who subscribe to sheep-al mentality and fallow BS as if it was gospel
[14:28:19] <_unreal_> ehhh.... hard to except theory
[14:28:28] <_unreal_> exwife thinging anyways
[14:29:01] <_unreal_> regardless both would be examples of unstable minds.....
[14:29:05] <_unreal_> not STUPID
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[14:30:26] <fragalot> stupidity isn't an excuse anyway
[14:31:57] <gloops> well the bloke on the bike was wearing a yellow vest, if he is the man who has been arrested
[14:32:22] <gloops> so thats an excuse to ban yellow vests as well lol
[14:32:31] <fragalot> and bikes
[14:33:43] <gloops> yes, bikes are a sign of an anti-industrial society attitude
[14:33:49] <gloops> unabomber mentality
[14:33:59] <HighInBC> once someone becomes so stupid that they are dangerous to be around their stupidity becomes indistinguishable from malice and should be treated the same
[14:34:00] <fragalot> bet you he wore shoes too
[14:34:07] <fragalot> and those shoes weren't even registered
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[14:35:20] <gloops> well i suppose we'll find the story out soon enough
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[14:37:03] <_unreal_> Thats why I ware sandles 99% of the year
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[14:37:08] <_unreal_> then again I do live in south florida
[14:37:10] <_unreal_> :p
[14:37:35] <fragalot> bet you don't even wear white socks over them.
[14:38:32] <HighInBC> I have heard of white socks under sandals, but over them?
[14:38:37] <HighInBC> that would be just strange
[14:38:49] <fragalot> gives you better traction on ice
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[14:40:19] <HighInBC> lol
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[15:10:26] <miss0r> fragalot: yo
[15:10:41] <fragalot> miss0r: Yo.
[15:10:59] <miss0r> the misses gave birth to my second son 20-12
[15:11:02] <miss0r> :)
[15:11:48] <fragalot> congrats!!!!!
[15:11:54] <miss0r> Thank you :)
[15:12:07] <miss0r> 4610g big one...
[15:12:10] <fragalot> how's the misses? :-)
[15:12:22] <miss0r> hehe. She is fine. Still somewhat sore
[15:13:27] <miss0r> But let me tell'ya; None of that quite time we had with the first one when he slept is possible now - because of the first one :D
[15:14:00] <fragalot> lol
[15:14:18] <miss0r> well.. I have *some* now. They are all asleep :D
[15:14:56] <miss0r> So; How is your CNC comming along?
[15:15:13] <fragalot> you mean how's the cold coming along?
[15:15:49] <fragalot> well let me tell ya, the horizontal support for the schaublin has 3 holes in it, that fit.. going to do the clamping slot next, and a few bushings after that
[15:15:56] <fragalot> but today was spent felling my pear tree
[15:15:58] * fragalot rambles on
[15:16:00] <miss0r> I will send you a nicely knitted christmas sweater, if proper clothing is what you need to get done ;D
[15:16:11] <fragalot> new set of lungs & a throat would be nice
[15:16:23] <miss0r> meh.. you cought the cold?
[15:16:34] <miss0r> I thought it was a refrence to the weather :D lol
[15:16:42] <fragalot> weathers' lovely
[15:16:49] <fragalot> hasn't really gone below 9°C yet
[15:17:04] <miss0r> ha...
[15:17:37] <miss0r> we have sub zero temperatures here most of the time.. We even have some snow clinging to the fields
[15:17:57] <fragalot> none of that weird business here
[15:18:05] <miss0r> But warmer weather is comming... I am just hoping for a nasty snow storm, crippling the traffic, so I can take a drive to justify owning the land rover :D
[15:18:14] <fragalot> lol
[15:18:24] <fragalot> is it road worthy yet?
[15:18:30] <miss0r> yeah!
[15:18:32] <fragalot> (note how I didn't say "again")
[15:18:38] <miss0r> lol
[15:18:46] <miss0r> In that case; it is as good as it ever was
[15:19:08] <miss0r> so.. a bulky tractor on regular license plates
[15:19:22] <fragalot> but less reliable? :P
[15:19:28] <miss0r> I took it for a short run in the swampy forrest close to me :) That was quite fun.
[15:19:32] <fragalot> nice
[15:19:55] <miss0r> second gear in low range with four wheel drive.. and it just lumbered through
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[15:20:19] <miss0r> Truth be told - it is vastly more comfortable in the forrest than it is on a regular road :D
[15:20:29] <fragalot> hahah
[15:20:33] <fragalot> did you bother with a radio?
[15:20:38] <miss0r> nope
[15:20:58] <miss0r> you'd need a pretty beefy stereo system to be able to even hear it :D
[15:21:01] <fragalot> friend of mine did. not sure why
[15:21:06] <fragalot> yeah :D
[15:21:12] <fragalot> going over speed bumps is always fun too
[15:21:50] <miss0r> also, *IF* you managed to outplay the noise of the car with a stereo system, you'd need to turn down the volume regularly to listen for development of new sounds :D
[15:22:00] <miss0r> you feel every little contour!
[15:22:21] <fragalot> continuous audio-diagnose system
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[15:23:20] <miss0r> I snapped a photo this morning: https://imgur.com
[15:23:45] <fragalot> tow rope, or do you have a winch?
[15:23:51] <miss0r> tow rope
[15:24:02] <miss0r> why? why not!
[15:24:07] <fragalot> can't use those anymore here
[15:24:09] <miss0r> I just thinks it looks cool :)
[15:24:09] <fragalot> has to be a rigid bar
[15:24:21] <miss0r> well.. for dragging someone a distance
[15:24:30] <miss0r> but for freeing someone from a ditch, it should be fine
[15:24:33] <fragalot> like in red dead redemption 2?
[15:24:42] <miss0r> I wouldn't know
[15:24:57] <fragalot> seen gifs of it where you just lassoo who'mever you want & take them for a ride
[15:25:04] <miss0r> lol
[15:25:32] <miss0r> The steering in this is not quite suited for doing a lassoo move.. Unless you are in the passenger seat.
[15:25:43] <miss0r> You want to keep two hands on the wheel as often as possible
[15:25:47] <fragalot> I thought they steer themselves
[15:26:00] <fragalot> (gf: into the nearest ditch)
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[15:26:23] <miss0r> sacrilege!
[15:26:43] <miss0r> It might be quite true, but is does not go well with my religion :P
[15:27:27] <miss0r> Theres some strange magic going on with a land rover. somehow it is often colder on the inside than the outside
[15:27:55] <fragalot> that'd be the galvanic corrosion pulling the heat out of the cabin
[15:27:59] <CaptHindsight> what shape is it in since they don't rust? Corrosion at the dissimilar metal connections?
[15:28:00] <HighInBC> huh
[15:28:04] <fragalot> creating an endothermic reaction
[15:28:16] <miss0r> and this cold weather is not realy particularly nice driving with a land rover(Even though I would never openly admit it to any locals)
[15:28:31] <miss0r> The "heater" even struggles to keep the front windows from fogging up
[15:28:41] * miss0r slaps fragalot with his fictive corrotion theories
[15:29:03] <miss0r> CaptHindsight: The chassis frame rust
[15:29:39] <miss0r> the aluminium is body panels are bolted to steel parts using steel bolts. So there you have dissimilar metal corrotion, as fragalot said
[15:29:51] <miss0r> But I gave it a good once over, so this is in excellent condition
[15:30:28] <miss0r> if you don't mind it raining on the inside, the cold drag from the gaping doors and the lack of proper suspension... Then it is great :D
[15:30:41] <fragalot> don't forget the need for ear plugs
[15:31:27] <miss0r> its not *that* bad.. But that being said; I have a pair of kids sized ear protectors in there for the kid. He loves driving with me in the land rover, but he is not fund of the noises :D
[15:31:34] <miss0r> or rather the level of noise
[15:31:44] <fragalot> adorable. :-)
[15:32:01] <miss0r> Let me put it this way: Going 80km/h, you cannot tell if I open a window(speaking of sound)
[15:32:47] <miss0r> fragalot: I'm not even joking: "Do you want to come grocery shopping with me?" "NO!! :-(" "We can go in the land rover!" ... he runs out to find his jacket :D
[15:33:57] <fragalot> :-)
[15:34:04] <miss0r> anyway. Tell your girlfriend not to expect me to come drag her out of a blizzard with her attitude towards land rovers :) I have to get going. I might as well see if I can catch some sleep as well. See you around. And if I don't see you be for: Merry christmas ;)
[15:34:37] <fragalot> cya! Merry christmas to the family that doesn't know me at all too
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[15:54:49] <gloops> yes theres a lot to be said for the british way of doing things
[15:55:06] <Tom_L> so stupid is on that side of the globe too?
[15:55:32] <Tom_L> ie the drone thing
[15:55:50] <fragalot> Tom_L: they invented it. you just imported & refined it
[15:55:58] <Tom_L> haha
[16:01:05] <gloops> well, we dont know the motive behind that yet
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[16:17:17] <gloops> i mean like the old landrover
[16:17:30] <gloops> there was none of that fancy yanky stuff over here
[16:20:41] <gloops> the germans sneered at our vehicles, but in the right hands they became part of a deadly efficient fighting unit
[16:34:02] <Deejay> gn8
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[19:44:40] <CaptHindsight> tell me about your welcome
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[21:00:21] <rue_shop1> anyone done lost wax casting?
[21:08:27] <CaptHindsight> yes
[21:12:52] <rue_shop1> anyone here?
[21:12:53] <rue_shop1> :)
[21:13:02] <XXCoder> no
[21:13:42] <Tom_L> just watching how you react to silence
[21:13:56] <CaptHindsight> testing 1 2 3
[21:13:59] <rue_shop1> hmm :/
[21:14:08] <XXCoder> isnt it always 3 2 1
[21:14:26] <rue_shop1> I'm working on my 5th 3d printer, but its gonna be for, amongst other things, wax
[21:14:28] <CaptHindsight> depends on what you are testing
[21:15:00] <rue_shop1> so I need to get with lost wax casting, my dad passed away before we could do some
[21:15:04] <CaptHindsight> bombs, 3 2 1, microphones 1 2 3
[21:16:18] <Tom_L> what sort of wax do you use for it?
[21:16:43] <rue_shop1> it'll likley be parifin for predicable melting point
[21:16:44] <Tom_L> not that blue machinable wax probably...
[21:17:09] <CaptHindsight> are you extruding wax or polymerizing a wax oligomer composite?
[21:17:26] <rue_shop1> tho, once I work it out, I'll probably start melting all the liquidation candles from the thrift store and print with anything
[21:17:33] <rue_shop1> extruding the wax
[21:18:00] <rue_shop1> "warm"
[21:19:02] <CaptHindsight> what investment are you working with?
[21:19:18] <CaptHindsight> (investment material)
[21:19:21] <rue_shop1> NOT plaster of paris! that did NOT work out!!!
[21:19:31] <rue_shop1> too much sulfur from what I can work out
[21:19:43] <rue_shop1> (that was some BAD smelling aluminum)
[21:19:55] <CaptHindsight> I use plasticast
[21:20:08] <rue_shop1> awesome, what kinda shop sells it!
[21:20:58] <Tom_L> https://www.romanoff.com
[21:21:02] <Tom_L> one
[21:21:31] <rue_shop1> $1/lb hmm
[21:21:43] <Tom_L> https://www.riogrande.com
[21:21:50] <Tom_L> maybe helpful... who knows
[21:21:54] <CaptHindsight> I make patterns with a water soluble resin and SLA and inkjet printers
[21:21:56] <rue_shop1> I suspect they dont ship to canada tho eh?
[21:22:40] <rue_shop1> that sounds expensive
[21:22:46] <Tom_L> https://www.gesswein.com
[21:22:53] <Tom_L> same stuff different supplier
[21:23:11] <CaptHindsight> https://www.gessweincanada.com
[21:23:34] <rue_shop1> $77 cad
[21:23:47] <Tom_L> sucks to be canadian ehh?
[21:24:02] <rue_shop1> sucks to be an earthling too!
[21:24:07] <CaptHindsight> https://www.ransom-randolph.com
[21:24:08] <Tom_L> :)
[21:24:11] <rue_shop1> but hey, you get what you roll!
[21:24:32] <CaptHindsight> which metals do you want to cast?
[21:24:43] <Tom_L> probably aluminum
[21:24:48] <rue_shop1> well definitly aluminum
[21:25:04] <rue_shop1> I dont know what else I can do with the temps I can attain
[21:25:31] <rue_shop1> I have to say, PLA gets pretty soupie around 200c
[21:25:40] <rue_shop1> but I want to work with the wax
[21:26:04] <CaptHindsight> you can also make sand molds using binder and sand
[21:26:29] <XXCoder> alum 660c
[21:26:40] <rue_shop1> what I HAVE done, is (ok two things) plaster of paris backed with sand
[21:27:08] <rue_shop1> and I made some green sand (ground down bentonite clay, sand, some crushed glass, and water)
[21:27:32] <CaptHindsight> lost foam casting is another idea
[21:27:37] <rue_shop1> it sucks
[21:27:43] <rue_shop1> (been there)
[21:27:54] <CaptHindsight> what happened to you?
[21:27:55] <rue_shop1> but I'm making this new printer and want to try the wax thing
[21:28:25] <rue_shop1> well, the finish isn't that great, and I origionally attributed the horrid smell to the foam and not the plaster
[21:28:41] <rue_shop1> it comes out looking like foam
[21:28:57] <rue_shop1> (yea I used the blue stuff too)
[21:29:43] <rue_shop1> one of the good questions is what kinda casting I can do with a sugar positive
[21:30:12] <rue_shop1> (3d print sugar thing, case in investment, use water to get the sugar out...)
[21:30:38] <rue_shop1> I know what I can do with 3d printed chocolate stuff, and I'm sure everyone is willing to help
[21:30:51] <rue_shop1> its gonna be fun, thats for sure
[21:31:12] <rue_shop1> do you know how much temp the plasticast can take?
[21:31:24] <rue_shop1> ah 760c
[21:31:35] <rue_shop1> ok, so no brass
[21:31:58] <rue_shop1> tho, last time I tried to melt down brass, it seperated and disintegrated
[21:32:53] <CaptHindsight> https://www.ransom-randolph.com
[21:33:32] <rue_shop1> ah
[21:34:53] <CaptHindsight> https://www.artcastingdepot.com
[21:36:03] <flyback> rue_shop1, BMCC
[21:36:21] <rue_shop1> seriosly? they didn't ban you yet?
[21:37:18] <rue_shop1> "and glass"
[21:37:25] <rue_shop1> hmm, casting glass....
[21:38:05] <rue_shop1> hmm, this looks like its hard to pull off without having someone to charge a lot of money for
[21:38:58] <flyback> nope
[21:39:02] <flyback> not banned anywhere anymore
[21:39:06] <flyback> how you been?
[21:46:48] <rue_shop1> alive
[21:46:52] <rue_shop1> its winter, I'm depressed
[21:47:21] <rue_shop1> I'll be more depressed when I'm 2000 years old and there is nobody left alive, so I have to learn to not let it get me down
[21:48:24] <rue_shop1> getting the 4th printer running is helping me out tho
[21:48:28] <rue_shop1> one more printer and I'm done
[21:48:43] <rue_shop1> and by next year I should have the new cnc working too
[21:51:18] <rue_shop1> a machine that prints chocolate will be nice, I can eat the screwups
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[21:51:28] <rue_shop1> (in a different way than I eat them now)
[21:51:59] <rue_shop1> Tom_L, you need to start milling chocolate!
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[22:02:28] <Tom_L> heh
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