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[03:25:51] <CaptHindsight> https://twitter.com
[03:26:01] <CaptHindsight> mini injection molding machine
[03:26:30] <laminae_> Saw that recently actually
[03:26:41] <laminae_> two pins though?
[03:27:21] <CaptHindsight> what reprappers could have worked on
[03:27:25] <laminae_> Even on a pretty forgiving draft i can't see many uses for that that aren't just pure mass production of cap or something similar
[03:28:00] <laminae_> Random segway, has anyone used lcnc for raster laser engraving?
[03:28:12] <CaptHindsight> yes
[03:28:13] <laminae_> I found a bunch of discussion with nothing definitive on the googles
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[03:29:05] <laminae_> I'm embarking on another build and i'd like to use lcnc for the laser because i'm just now comfortableish with my cnc router
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[03:29:26] <laminae_> And i'd like to used pretty much an identical controller setup
[03:29:41] <Deejay> moin
[03:29:47] <laminae_> Any chance you have links to some documentation i'm not finding?
[03:29:53] <laminae_> Mornin'
[03:30:48] <laminae_> It's worth noting this will primarily be a cutter and much less used for image engraving
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[03:31:02] <laminae_> But if i am going to chuck over 4 grand into it i might as well put some effort in
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[03:31:37] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com
[03:31:53] <CaptHindsight> Frankenlab CNC #19 - LASERs and M Codes
[03:32:10] <CaptHindsight> has afew videos on it all
[03:32:10] <laminae_> Thanks, watching
[03:33:37] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com
[03:33:51] <CaptHindsight> Frankenlab CNC #17 - Frickin LASER
[03:34:11] <CaptHindsight> https://www.fbo.gov
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[03:34:29] <CaptHindsight> Microscale Bio-mimetic Robust Artificial Intelligence Networks (μBRAIN)
[03:35:24] <CaptHindsight> https://www.cnczone.com
[03:35:50] <CaptHindsight> also see http://www.scorchworks.com
[03:38:57] <laminae_> That second to las tone looks to be exactly what i was on the hunt for
[03:39:02] <laminae_> Thanks
[03:39:25] <CaptHindsight> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org
[03:40:05] <laminae_> I did see that graster on the wiki but it doesn't play well with most of the configs i've found
[03:40:14] <laminae_> Grante di am only using a vm to test that
[03:40:15] <CaptHindsight> me use glavos and lasers
[03:40:49] <CaptHindsight> make cutter, engraver, SLS printer etc
[03:41:04] * Wolf__ still wants to build a nice sized co2 laser
[03:41:24] <laminae_> So, i use a hse kern 150w laser at work a lot
[03:41:25] <CaptHindsight> me use laser and galvo to cure resin in sand to make mold for cvastings
[03:41:27] <laminae_> And i love it
[03:42:01] <Wolf__> right now I need to finish my janky looking plasma cutter
[03:42:13] <laminae_> I had a chance recently where i could have taken a job for 9k for not evnen a month of hobby work but i didn't have a machine to cut it
[03:42:14] <CaptHindsight> https://img.purch.com
[03:42:29] <laminae_> I've had a ton of smaller ones pass me by for the same thing
[03:42:33] <laminae_> CUtting tool foam
[03:43:04] <laminae_> Usually for (large) stanley vidmars
[03:43:05] <Wolf__> should be fun to see how good/bad this does https://i.imgur.com lol
[03:43:29] <laminae_> YIKES
[03:43:34] <laminae_> Is that yours?
[03:43:42] <Wolf__> yup
[03:43:44] <CaptHindsight> this way SLS no use glavos, so slow and clunky https://www.youtube.com
[03:44:45] <CaptHindsight> Wolf__: where do you eat your lunch? :)
[03:44:55] <laminae_> Kinda scary but best of luck. I'm surprised contamination isn't an issue on that sls
[03:45:25] <Wolf__> 1.5m x 1m frame plasma, target use is 1/4”, 1/2” and 3/4” plate so speed shouldn’t be a issue with the frame
[03:45:57] <laminae_> How are you controlling the pulsing?
[03:46:58] <Wolf__> mesa 7i96 + thcad, currently cheap 420oz steppers on it, was thinking clearpath at some point
[03:47:12] <laminae_> I mean on the cutter
[03:47:39] <laminae_> I'm thinking in tight radius corners or high detail you might get some blowout
[03:48:07] <Wolf__> not being build for high detail lol
[03:48:20] <Wolf__> https://i.imgur.com
[03:48:28] <laminae_> Fair enough
[03:49:18] <laminae_> If you're using leadscrews which i looks like you are, i wouldn't be concerned about the rest, i probably wouldn't do it in your living room though haha
[03:49:32] <Wolf__> haha yeah
[03:49:50] <laminae_> You guys have any recomended sources for legit hiwin rails?
[03:51:29] <CaptHindsight> hiwin has a discount store
[03:51:38] <CaptHindsight> with returns and overstock
[03:53:06] <Wolf__> max 6706mm/min on 8mm pitch T8 lead screw shouldn’t be too horrible I think
[03:54:01] <CaptHindsight> http://www.automation-overstock.com
[03:54:18] <laminae_> Nice
[03:55:50] <CaptHindsight> http://www.automation4less.com
[03:57:10] <CaptHindsight> http://www.automation4less.com
[03:57:33] <CaptHindsight> http://www.automation4less.com
[03:58:43] <laminae_> Have you ordered from them personally?
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[05:46:03] <jthornton> morning
[05:47:43] <Deejay> hey
[05:47:48] <XXCoder> heys
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[06:00:50] <Tom_L> morning
[06:02:29] <XXCoder> yo
[06:29:55] <Wolf__> morning
[06:30:13] <The_Ball> Is there a roadmap for 2.8 somewhere?
[06:33:08] <Wolf__> jthornton: gonna start the install process on the ITX box, when I was messing with the test install on my desktop (on SD card) got a fail building the deb - debuild: fatal error at line 1152: dpkg-buildpackage -rtfakeroot -us -uc -ui failed
[06:34:48] <jthornton> yea, testing that this morning... I think I have it all sorted out now
[06:35:24] <Wolf__> cool, also should the gitclone path be emc or linuxcnc?
[07:01:49] <jthornton> you can clone to any empty directory I like emc, it's the nist name
[07:03:07] <Wolf__> I did notice that the 7i96 setup thing expects linuxcnc as the directory =P
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[07:08:49] <jthornton> and that's the reason you don't want to clone to linuxcnc because when you run linuxcnc it creates that directory
[07:09:05] <Wolf_ITX_> ahh ok
[07:09:08] <jthornton> you can go now just refresh the browser page with Ctrl Shift r
[07:09:42] <Wolf_ITX_> about to start the fresh install on this box now
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[07:14:01] <jthornton> wow that pc I built linux mint 19 on has very low jitter of 6500 on the servo thread
[07:14:19] <jthornton> if you run into any glitches let me know...
[07:14:30] <XXCoder> dang
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[07:26:24] <jthornton> hmm if your going to have debian 9 and linux mint share a hard drive better install debian first lol as it does not have an option to install along with mint
[07:27:07] <Wolf_> naa doing a clean install
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[07:30:06] <jthornton> no, just me I have a dual boot to work on qtpyvcp docs in debian and test other things in linuxmint lo
[07:30:08] <jthornton> l
[07:31:39] <Wolf_> ahh ok
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[07:59:58] <Wolf_ITX> ok, now the fun begins, jthornton whats the link again to the instructions please?
[08:00:50] <jthornton> http://gnipsel.com
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[08:10:03] <Wolf_ITX> damn the RT kernal directory is 17.8GB, no wonder it takes forever to build
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[08:53:05] <`Wolf> well i did something wrong install attempt #2 lol
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[09:54:58] <Wolf_ITX> seems I did something wrong with the moving the kernal that I built on the other cpu, it causes a kernal panic on boot on this box =/
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[13:01:53] <gloops> Heathrow airport runway 'is closed after a suspected drone sighting'
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[13:24:33] <roycroft> so they've moved from gatwick to heathrow
[13:24:37] <roycroft> is that an upgrade?
[13:25:25] <Rab> In the sense of switching from one armpit to another.
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[13:27:07] <roycroft> i don't fly any more, because i refuse to participate in the kabuki security theatres that airports in the us became after 9/11
[13:27:14] <roycroft> so it's no concern of mine
[13:27:31] <roycroft> i'd hate to see folks injured/killed because of the drones, though
[13:30:06] <Rab> That is an honorable stance. I fly a lot for work, so it's out of my hands.
[13:30:32] <roycroft> it's been hard, but i've stuck with it
[13:30:37] <roycroft> i used to fly 3-4 times/year
[13:30:59] <roycroft> i last flew on 4 september, 2011
[13:31:24] <roycroft> fortunately, all the trainings i've needed to go to since then have been available in the bay area
[13:31:31] <roycroft> it's a 10 hour drive from here to sfo
[13:31:37] <roycroft> so i just drive when i need to do that stuff
[13:32:27] <roycroft> it probably would not take me much less time to fly, given all the bs that one has to go through at airports these days
[13:32:47] <roycroft> and i don't have to worry about renting a car when i get to my destination
[13:33:03] <Rab> Are you reimbursed for mileage?
[13:33:11] <roycroft> yes, but not totally
[13:33:22] <roycroft> i.e. i am reimbursed for the cost of a flight
[13:33:28] <roycroft> which more than covers fuel expense
[13:33:37] <roycroft> but normal reimburement is $0.55/mile
[13:33:48] <roycroft> i make decent money expensing mileage, normally
[13:34:21] <roycroft> the theory is that the reimbursement above fuel cost covers the cost of additional maintenance/wear/depreciation of the vehicle
[13:34:41] <roycroft> so i basically eat that expense as the cost of my choosing not to fly
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[13:34:52] <roycroft> but immediate out of pocket expenses are covered
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[13:36:10] <roycroft> at my normal reimbursement rate i'd get $616.00 in mileage to drive from here to sjc and back
[13:36:20] <roycroft> flights are usualy in the $400 range
[13:36:27] <Rab> Ever tried Amtrak?
[13:36:35] <roycroft> yes, i like amtrak a lot
[13:36:44] <roycroft> and when i go back east i take the train
[13:37:04] <roycroft> the bay area is close enough that i prefer to drive
[13:37:16] <roycroft> just because of the convenience of not having to deal with a rental and stuff
[13:37:19] <Rab> The Coast Starlight is a great route, although it's been a long time since I've done it.
[13:37:34] <roycroft> and there usually are not rental car lots adjoining amtrak stations, like there are at airports
[13:37:43] <roycroft> so it's more of a hassle getting a car when taking the train
[13:38:06] <Rab> Yeah, prob more expensive than a plane ticket too.
[13:38:08] <roycroft> the coast starlight and the empire builder are the two main trains i take
[13:38:39] <roycroft> but i don't go back east for business any more
[13:39:12] <roycroft> when folks ask me if i'll consult for them, i quote my standard rate, and then tell them that i charge an additional $1/hour for every mile i have to travel east of the rockies
[13:39:23] <roycroft> someone in carolina can't afford me :)
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[13:42:14] <roycroft> what works for me probably doesn't work for most folks
[13:42:32] <roycroft> but i'm getting older, and i've always disliked travelling for work
[13:42:55] <roycroft> now i'm getting rather insistent about not doing it
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[13:53:40] <fragalot> classic "off by one" mistake :'( bought the wrong DC jack for my laptop & got the wrong one
[13:53:51] <fragalot> blimmin €17 down the drain
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[13:59:32] <gloops> exchange it
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[14:21:28] <elmo40> fragalot, how is that possible? did you not specify make/model of laptop?
[14:24:45] <fragalot> elmo40: missed a character when I looked it up :P
[14:25:04] <fragalot> the DC jack part is correct, but the little connector to the motherboard isn't
[14:25:10] <fragalot> i'm sure I could make it work if I wanted to
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[14:27:46] <elmo40> litle bit of solder and wire ;-)
[14:30:25] <elmo40> roycroft, travelling isn't cheap anymore! It sure as hell isn't me paying for it. Customer pays everything.
[14:30:50] <elmo40> I simply charge by the mile, both ways. then normal hourly rate when I get there.
[14:35:20] <jthornton> I charge normal hourly rate from the time I leave my house until I leave the customer so it works out 1/2 my rate for travel
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[14:39:19] <fragalot> helps if you make sure your rate is 10% higher first
[14:39:20] <fragalot> :D
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[14:53:48] <gloops> Germany in technical recession
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[15:09:26] <fragalot> at some point the goal of growth needs to be revisited anyway
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[15:09:55] <fragalot> it's impossible for everyone everywhere to have continuous positive growth... things must come from somewhere.
[15:10:20] <andypugh> Indeed, we live on a finite planet.
[15:11:59] <pcw_home> Yeah, the philosophy of a cancer tumor is continuous growth
[15:13:24] <fragalot> back to the days where growth was impossible. :P
[15:13:36] <fragalot> more people? needs more resources, which need more people to produce
[15:13:39] <fragalot> a perfect balance
[15:23:57] <gloops> the mayans had a good solution
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[17:05:06] <The_Ball> Do you guys setup a sim version of your machine?
[17:05:47] <CaptHindsight> some do
[17:06:01] <CaptHindsight> there are sims for common arrangements
[17:06:06] <Deejay> gn8
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[17:08:27] <The_Ball> Yes I've seen many of the bundled ones, thinking of making one to play with while I'm not in the shop
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[19:37:46] <elmo40> Germany is weird. They are not renewing any nuclear power plants and going all 'renewable'.
[19:38:29] <elmo40> yet it is proven that wind/solar/hydro electric is not enough to power their country... solution? buy from other countries and pay carbon tax on their coal plants >_<
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[19:46:53] <Jymmm> haha
[19:57:14] <CaptHindsight> elmo40: große riesenbatterien
[19:57:30] <CaptHindsight> big giant batteries
[20:08:05] <roycroft> elmo40: that seems to me to be a short-term solution while they're augmenting the renewable energy infrastructure
[20:08:24] <roycroft> which makes more sense than to renew nuclear power plant licenses and then mothball them shortly thereafter
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[20:30:43] <Jymmm> or jsut use safe nuclear instead
[20:35:19] <Jymmm> https://www.google.com
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[20:51:27] <roycroft> i would actually trust the germans to regulate nuclear power plants decently
[20:51:35] <roycroft> i do not trust the usa or japan to do so
[20:51:45] <roycroft> i would *never* trust industry to self-regulate
[20:52:03] <roycroft> but the germans have decided that nuclear power is not in their future
[20:55:40] <ziper> does this channel have a bot?
[20:55:48] <ziper> .seen
[20:57:59] <ziper> I bought the three mills
[20:59:19] <ziper> and a 36 inch callipers
[20:59:26] <ziper> and a bunch of parallels
[21:03:41] <skunkworks> I love cnc.. http://electronicsam.com
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[21:35:07] <Rab> skunkworks, did you make that?
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[22:53:09] <CaptHindsight> https://imgur.com
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[23:22:16] <ziper> CaptHindsight, nice
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[23:58:00] <Wolf_> no pics ziper?