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[01:16:25] <Wolf_ITX> I dont get how this lcnc stuff works sometimes... trying to set up xhc-hb04 and getting a error that pin 'motion.probe-input' is already linked
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[01:52:18] <veek> cool - guy made a parabolic mirror out of metalized mylar film by inflating it against a form
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[03:17:21] <Deejay> moin
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[03:44:28] <miss0r> mornin
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[05:12:33] <Wolf_ITX> I think this pendant thing is going to drive me insane =/
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[05:47:14] <jthornton> morning
[05:48:33] <Wolf_ITX> grr wtf
[05:48:37] <Wolf_ITX> morning jt
[05:50:11] <jthornton> your up early hows it going
[05:50:40] <Wolf_ITX> fighting with lcnc trying to get the xhc=hb04 to work
[05:51:21] <jthornton> still having an issue with the pin motion.probe-input?
[05:51:47] <Wolf_ITX> which works fine with the sim, then copy everything over like the readme says and no cord display
[05:52:06] <Wolf_ITX> commented it out, not sure where the hell it put that either
[05:57:42] <jthornton> I have no clue what "that" is lol
[05:58:28] <Wolf_ITX> the motion.probe-input
[05:59:25] <jthornton> paste.ubuntu.com the offending code
[06:00:26] * jthornton tries to wake up before the chickens do
[06:00:58] <Wolf_ITX> https://paste.ubuntu.com
[06:02:16] <Wolf_ITX> I commented out the xhc hb04 probe button to get things to work
[06:02:45] <Wolf_ITX> still have no clue why the xyz cords wont display either
[06:02:48] <jthornton> # probe-z = motion.probe-input is the only instance of motion.probe-input I see
[06:02:54] <Wolf_ITX> yup
[06:03:12] <jthornton> <Wolf_ITX> I dont get how this lcnc stuff works sometimes... trying to set up xhc-hb04 and getting a error that pin 'motion.probe-input' is already linked
[06:03:40] <Wolf_ITX> yeah, if I uncomment it, thats the error I get
[06:03:51] <jthornton> open a terminal in your configuration directory then grep for it like this
[06:04:05] <jthornton> grep -irl 'motion.probe-input' *
[06:04:19] <jthornton> what is the exact error
[06:05:09] <Wolf_ITX> io.hal plasma.ini
[06:05:38] <Wolf_ITX> net probe-input motion.probe-input <= hm2_7i96.0.gpio.005.in
[06:06:22] <jthornton> net probe-z probe-input
[06:06:35] <jthornton> you can connect more than one input to a signal but not to a pin
[06:06:53] <Wolf_ITX> ahh
[06:09:50] <Wolf_ITX> I'll probably want the probe-z to cycle a touch off at some point anyways
[06:10:37] <Wolf_ITX> now if I could figure out why the display doesnt work on the hb04 and set up gantry homing and thc I'll be set lol
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[06:15:55] <jthornton> I'm working on the homing problem and now you can help the next guy with the hb04 :)
[06:17:15] <Wolf_ITX> only answer I have seen is adding someone elses hal and config to make it work https://forum.linuxcnc.org
[06:21:41] <Wolf_ITX> and its not mentioned in the sim axis xhc-hb04 anywhere, heck, cant even find 'xhc-hb04.x.pos-relative' anywhere in that configs folder
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[06:30:43] <XXCoder> wow im alive...
[06:30:43] <XXCoder> for maybe for few minutes lol
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[06:31:37] * jthornton doesn't even know what a hb04 is lol
[06:32:14] <Wolf_ITX> usb wireless pendant with mpg and lcd dro
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[06:37:19] <jthornton> ah
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[06:40:55] <Wolf_ITX> I dont get how the thing works in sim yet when I follow the readme everything but the dro works
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[07:20:20] <jthornton> https://www.amazon.com
[07:20:28] <jthornton> is that the same one you have?
[07:24:21] <jthornton> all right found an error with min limit and home input :)
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[07:55:04] <Nick001-Shop> will that pendant work on linuxcnc?
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[08:15:29] <jthornton> I assume it's the one that is for the hb04 stuff so yea
[08:15:41] <jthornton> someone needs to send me one for testing lol
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[08:22:05] <emsjessec> i'm trying to test a machine shop price quote calculator. does anyone have suggestions or sample files?
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[09:00:28] <elmo40> sample file of what, NC code?
[09:09:39] <The_Ball> pcw_mesa, I'm not at the machine ATM, but this should work for lowpassing the probe I think: https://pastebin.com
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[09:17:08] <flyback> SAMPLE THIS!
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[09:47:04] <stjohn4444> hi, has anyone setup a central lubrication system before?
[09:47:13] <jthornton> well this sucks I have libpci3 but it's version 3.3 and mesaflash requires 3.5???
[09:47:53] <stjohn4444> I am not sure which single line distributor to buy..
[09:47:56] <jthornton> I've setup one to lube the crown on an offshore derrick so I didn't have to climb to the top each day and grease it...
[09:48:06] <stjohn4444> lol..
[09:48:21] <stjohn4444> I think mine might be a little smaller..
[09:49:42] <stjohn4444> this is what I need I think: https://www.central-lubrication.com
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[09:52:08] <JT-Shop> looks right to me
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[09:55:41] <stjohn4444> thanks! I am thinking so..
[09:56:10] <JT-Shop> you need a pump too
[10:00:15] <stjohn4444> yes, got that already...
[10:00:46] <stjohn4444> a good friend kindly donated....
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[10:35:51] <emsjessec> elmo40, stp, solidpart, etc.
[10:37:39] <pcw_home> jthornton: Possibly because the mesaflash binary was built on a system with libpci V3.5?
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[10:47:06] <jthornton> yep, just figured that out... I'll have to change my strategy
[10:47:37] <jthornton> is there a way to sudo apt-get install mesaflash 3.3 or will you always get master?
[10:56:39] <pcw_home> Not sure whats in the repository
[10:57:32] <pcw_home> I wonder if you could build a static linked mesaflash, libpci is probably pretty small
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[11:00:57] <sync> pcw_home: there is no reason why you could not
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[11:03:51] <jthornton> I'll see if I can figure out how to build a static linked mesaflash, thanks for the tip
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[11:38:14] <jthornton> damn the T8 LED Light Tube 4FT, 22W (75W equivalent) 2300Lm 6500K Cool White, Dual-End Powered, Frosted Cover is out of stock... closest I can find id 2000L 6000k :(
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[11:52:13] <jthornton> hmmm I'm getting a segmentation fault on linux mint 18 https://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:52:20] <jthornton> same place every time
[11:54:50] <Jymmm> Ii know your fond of mint jthornton, But I'm REALLY liking https://ubuntu-mate.org
[11:55:14] <Jymmm> Just installed it yesterday, but working out very well on a laptop so far.
[12:06:09] <pcw_home> I think thats a Mesaflash-master bug
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[12:09:24] <jthornton> ok, I must not have gotten 3.3
[12:10:33] <pcw_home> yeah mesaflash master doesn't deal very gracefully with unknown pin types
[12:11:32] <jthornton> why is master not the latest version?
[12:11:49] <jthornton> git checkout v3.3 then make now it works
[12:12:04] <sync> it also doesn't really handle random input very well :D
[12:12:41] <pcw_home> and no version command
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[12:16:02] <jthornton> hmm I compiled it on this pc with libpci 3.3.1 and it runs fine on debian 9 with libpci 3.5.somethihng
[12:16:18] <jthornton> so that may be the answer to my problem
[12:20:22] <jthornton> yea mesaflash is working again with the 7i96 configuration tool
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[12:36:41] <gloops> https://www.ebay.co.uk < what are these good for?
[12:37:09] <fragalot> approximate alignment of parts
[12:38:33] <gloops> could you describe such a situation fragalot?
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[12:39:14] <sync> put it on the spindle of a router
[12:39:20] <sync> so you can roughly align your board
[12:39:25] <fragalot> gloops: put it on the spindle of a router, or on a drill press
[12:39:41] <gloops> ive seen people edge finding with cross hairs and a camera, the one i posted looks a bit coarse for that
[12:42:15] <fragalot> laser lines are always coarse
[12:42:55] <gloops> maybe the cross hairs were in the scope
[12:43:22] <fragalot> all visible lasers are very coarse compared to most alternatives
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[12:46:08] <gloops> yes i cant see it being a good method
[12:47:07] <gloops> https://www.youtube.com that must be a 2mm thick line hes trying to move on the edge
[12:48:13] <SpeedEvil> In some cases you can reasonably split the line
[12:48:20] <SpeedEvil> - it's great on pencil lines, for example
[12:48:29] <gloops> still, for some wood jobs...
[12:49:07] <gloops> ill get one, might look good on youtube vids
[12:49:11] <SpeedEvil> It can be good enough.
[12:49:32] <gloops> there are a lot of cutout jobs where half a mm doesnt matter
[12:49:40] <SpeedEvil> Add a couple, for example intersecting, and you can get a very good idea of depth
[12:49:48] <SpeedEvil> at a preset limit
[12:50:02] <gloops> depth?
[12:50:58] <SpeedEvil> \/
[12:51:29] <Rab> gloops, this thing is alleged to obtain accuracy beyond just the beam width: https://www.centerquic.com
[12:51:48] <Rab> I've seen a couple of DIY implementations. It's a really simple idea.
[12:52:30] <fragalot> that's actually quite neat
[12:52:32] <Rab> Doesn't use crosshairs though.
[12:53:20] <gloops> could be useful Rab
[12:57:20] <jthornton> Wolf_ITX: I've fixed everything I know about on the 7i69 configuration tool and added more help info if you want to download it again and give it a spin
[13:08:54] <rmu> 4 meters of snow. insane.
[13:09:59] <roycroft> we get that much snow all the time
[13:10:03] <roycroft> up in the mountains :)
[13:10:49] <rmu> it has been constantly snowing for two weeks now
[13:10:52] <fragalot> roycroft: this is 4 meters in just a few weeks
[13:11:08] <fragalot> in an area that normally gets that much in about a season
[13:11:09] <rmu> today was first day with a break
[13:11:22] <gloops> global warming
[13:11:25] <roycroft> here where i live 4cm in an entire season is a lot
[13:11:27] <rmu> numerous communities are cut off
[13:11:37] <roycroft> i like vertical climates
[13:11:57] <gregcnc> what part of the world is this?
[13:11:59] <fragalot> roycroft: we get 20cm quite often: https://proxy.duckduckgo.com
[13:12:11] <rmu> me? austria
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[13:12:48] <roycroft> i'm in eugene oregon, myself
[13:13:03] <rmu> seems climate change makes such weather systems like we have now stable for longer times as they used to be
[13:13:03] <roycroft> in the willamette river valley, nestled in between the coast range and the cascades
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[13:13:54] <gregcnc> didn't you have a very warm fall in europe ?
[13:13:57] <rmu> it is called "nordstau", the alps block moist cold air from coming from the north and they "snow out". not untypical for this season
[13:14:36] <rmu> untypical is such a weather pattern for 2 weeks. seems to occur at most every 30-100 years
[13:15:19] <rmu> summer was very record breaking warm
[13:15:24] <rmu> unsure about fall
[13:16:11] <rmu> roof with 3m of snow on them are a strange and frightening sight
[13:16:15] <rmu> roofs
[13:17:00] <SpeedEvil> Know your design roof loading....
[13:17:33] <gloops> thats why you cant beat a slate roof with a decent pitch - just slides off
[13:17:41] <rmu> with 3m of snow like now they are at about 60%
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[13:17:58] <SpeedEvil> Flamethrower is the only sensible option.
[13:18:06] <fragalot> gloops: in the olden days, the snow on the roof actually acted as insulation
[13:18:12] <fragalot> so you wanted to keep a certain thickness on there
[13:18:28] <rmu> today austrian "air force" used helicopters to blow snow from trees next to powerlines and roads
[13:18:32] <gregcnc> snow doesn't insulate any more?
[13:18:44] <SpeedEvil> gregcnc: not if you have a thick layer of foam insulation
[13:18:47] <SpeedEvil> (meaningfully)
[13:19:09] <gregcnc> sure it's just snow then
[13:19:28] <rmu> snow is an insulator, but also a giant heatsink at 0°C
[13:19:32] <fragalot> gregcnc: it does, but the difference with a modern insulated roof is negligible.. so you may as well try & shed it to make the roof construction lighter
[13:20:04] <gregcnc> seems like the only way to keep snow on the roof is to not let it melt?
[13:20:28] <roycroft> snow doesn't necessarily just slide off a slate roof, even with a good pitch
[13:20:40] <SpeedEvil> Depends what the pitch is
[13:20:50] <SpeedEvil> If it's ridiculously steep, it may.
[13:20:51] <rmu> us have to use a rope and cut through the snow, then it will slide
[13:20:54] <roycroft> if the temperature is below freezing and the snow is really wet it can start freezing as it hits the roof
[13:21:04] <SpeedEvil> roycroft: that works well
[13:21:05] <SpeedEvil> rmu:
[13:21:47] <fragalot> gregcnc: older homes here often had hook son the roof
[13:22:06] <roycroft> we don't build our roofs too sturdily here, since it snows so rarely
[13:22:23] <roycroft> when it snows more than 10m or so i actively remove it from the roof
[13:22:28] <roycroft> 10cm, rather
[13:22:37] <roycroft> if it snowed 10m i would not bother trying to remove it
[13:22:40] <roycroft> i'd just run away :)
[13:22:50] <gregcnc> 10cm why bother?
[13:22:53] <rmu> https://ooe.orf.at has some videos if sombody is interested, page is in german
[13:23:13] <roycroft> because we don't build really sturdy roofs - most of our rafters are 2x4s on 24" centers
[13:23:46] <roycroft> while 10cm itself won't compromise a roof, if it snows more than that things can start getting sketchy
[13:23:46] <SpeedEvil> roycroft: I have had ~60cm of snow on my very slippery poly-tunnel
[13:23:58] <gregcnc> this equates to what loading?
[13:24:09] <roycroft> so that's where i'll start doing some removal
[13:24:14] <SpeedEvil> Down to quite a steep angle
[13:24:16] <roycroft> before it accumulates too much
[13:24:48] <roycroft> my main roof is not steeply pitched, and my welding shop and lower roof sections are almost flat
[13:24:51] <gregcnc> and how many of your neighbors roofs have collapsed because they didn't clear it?
[13:24:51] <fragalot> my roof is at a 45° pitch, it's quite hard for snow to build up significantly
[13:24:57] <roycroft> snow does not generally slide off the roof
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[13:25:13] <fragalot> but snow is a non-issue here anyway
[13:25:18] <rmu> some roofs have collapsed, mostly flat ones that couldn't be cleared in time
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[13:25:38] <PL7icnc> Good Evening from Germany
[13:26:00] <PL7icnc> Q: can i detect NO Tool Loaded from G-code
[13:26:02] <roycroft> our snow also tends to be very wet, and therefore very heavy
[13:26:07] <PL7icnc> i can di
[13:26:08] <rmu> a typical roof will take more than 300kg/m²
[13:26:38] <PL7icnc> O.. IF [#5400 GT 0]
[13:26:41] <Rab> roycroft, my mid-50's house roof is a series of trusses, bolted to the studs, on 16" centers. I'd like to reproduce that on a new build but I think it would be a prohibitive premium.
[13:26:56] <PL7icnc> but my Toolprobe is Zero
[13:27:20] <PL7icnc> and i want to find out NO TOOL loaded
[13:27:46] <Rab> And of course code requires various kinds of tie, not sure big bolts are even kosher.
[13:27:50] <PL7icnc> t is a NGC started By Pyvcp Button
[13:27:58] <Rab> We get almost no snow here.
[13:28:19] <PL7icnc> gloops, Online ?
[13:29:47] <rmu> PL7icnc: you want to detect a situation where somebody steals the tool out of the spindle without telling the control?
[13:30:11] <PL7icnc> No
[13:30:23] <PL7icnc> it is The toolprobe for a Hole
[13:30:33] <PL7icnc> OR A Autoprobe edge
[13:30:47] <PL7icnc> so i need the Tooldiameter #5410
[13:31:00] <PL7icnc> BUT NO Run at all if no tool is in
[13:31:20] <rmu> don't understand
[13:31:26] <rmu> you can /msg me in german
[13:31:54] <PL7icnc> so i want Basicly to Know Where is Parameter 5400 stored
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[13:32:06] <PL7icnc> the VAR file ends on 5390
[13:32:59] <rmu> tool table tool.tbl
[13:36:08] <JT-Shop> PL7icnc: 5400 is volatile http://linuxcnc.org
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[13:39:45] <PL7icnc> JT-Shop, So only on Runtime
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[13:43:49] <JT-Shop> aye
[13:44:31] <PL7icnc> The Slang here is For Foreners not Quite Understandable
[13:44:36] <PL7icnc> AYE ?
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[13:56:15] <CaptHindsight> using a laser to find the edge with +- 2mm accuracy https://www.youtube.com
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[14:03:35] <jthornton> aye == yes in English
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[14:05:06] <PL7icnc> im getting BAD Number Format in 2.7.14 on (Msg, #5410)
[14:05:15] <PL7icnc> msg
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[14:06:19] <jthornton> aye1/ī/exclamation exclamation: aye; exclamation: ay 1. archaic•dialect said to express assent; yes. "aye, you're right about that" Nautical a response acknowledging an order. exclamation: aye aye "aye aye, captain" (in voting) I assent. "all in favor say, “aye.”"noun noun: aye; plural noun: ayes; noun: ay; plural noun: ays 1. an affirmative answer or assent
[14:06:51] <jthornton> what is the cause of the bad number format?
[14:08:38] <PL7icnc> o<testp> sub
[14:08:38] <PL7icnc> o155 if [#5410 LE 0]
[14:08:38] <PL7icnc> (msg,Kein Werkzeug)
[14:08:38] <PL7icnc> o155 endif
[14:08:38] <PL7icnc> o156 if [#5410 GE 0]
[14:08:39] <PL7icnc> (msg,Werkzeugdiameter: #5410)
[14:08:41] <PL7icnc> o156 endif
[14:08:43] <PL7icnc> o<testp> endsub
[14:08:45] <PL7icnc> m2
[14:09:04] <PL7icnc> Does not show the Tool diameter printed in the Lower Status line
[14:09:54] <jthornton> use paste.ubuntu.com to paste code so it does not flood the channel
[14:09:54] <PL7icnc> BAD Number is solved there have been a wrong letter
[14:10:01] <jthornton> the msg causes the error?
[14:10:37] <PL7icnc> No error anymore
[14:10:45] <PL7icnc> But also No output
[14:10:57] <PL7icnc> s it the Simulation Mahine
[14:11:39] <jthornton> you must use debug to get an output http://linuxcnc.org
[14:12:14] <enleth> any interesting advice for a short bar stock storage rack?
[14:13:07] <PL7icnc> jthornton, That Did the trick
[14:13:20] <enleth> right now I'm using two or three beer crates, stacked and joined permanently, with the bottom removed on the upper ones
[14:14:26] <PL7icnc> enleth, beer cans not good in shop
[14:15:15] <enleth> no one drinks beer here, only club mate
[14:15:24] <enleth> but empty crates have some uses
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[14:17:44] <PL7icnc> i got it thanks will answer in Forum
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[14:18:55] <enleth> http://www.steves-workshop.co.uk oh, that looks like a pretty decent idea
[14:19:18] <enleth> wastes a tiny bit of space, but it's extremely fast to set up
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[14:22:39] <gloops> so ..Ichs didnt die lol
[14:22:55] <jthornton> enleth: I use shipping tubes to store small stock but yea square holes would not loose space as much but none are full so it's a moot point
[14:24:03] <enleth> square holes could make it less convenient to extract thin or short stuff too
[14:24:24] <gloops> drainpipe? the 40mm waste pipes are cheap, as is fall pipe
[14:24:25] <enleth> if it gets wedged in the corner
[14:24:40] <gloops> also - plenty in builders skips
[14:24:43] <enleth> gloops: yep, and I do have some
[14:25:31] <enleth> and it's 75mm, even better, I can get my hand inside to pull out stuff that's too short
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[14:26:19] <enleth> wait, not, 75mm is still too narrow
[14:26:22] <enleth> but 100mm is fine
[14:26:50] <Nick001-Shop> Does Mint 18.1 64 bit work OK with linuxcnc
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[14:40:29] <CaptHindsight> enleth: what style is interesting to you for the rack? shabby chic, tiki, colonial, etc
[14:42:28] <Jymmm> GhettoFaboulous
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[14:45:09] <Nick001-Shop> Does Mint 18.1 64 bit work OK with linuxcnc
[14:45:15] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: pre or post apocalyptic?
[14:45:46] <Nick001-Shop> wonder how long till this crashes again
[14:46:11] <CaptHindsight> Nick001-Shop: what is your actual problem with LCNC?
[14:46:41] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight D) All The Above
[14:47:32] <Nick001-Shop> going to 2.8 and mint 64 bit and will it run?
[14:47:52] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: But... I NOW understand why jthornton created that WAY over engineered gantry... https://www.youtube.com
[14:48:44] <CaptHindsight> Bunker TV
[14:49:32] <fragalot> "I thought YOU were going to put in the ventilation?"
[14:49:47] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: It's impressive to watch how far these guys went.
[14:50:19] <CaptHindsight> Yo, where we teach YOU how to ready for next uhpokalipps
[14:50:31] <Jymmm> ...and their enginnering isn't half bad
[14:50:51] <Jymmm> some of it at least, still watching the video
[14:51:51] <Jymmm> fragalot: flood pump was my thought =)
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[14:53:38] <CaptHindsight> is nick building LCNC and the RT kernel or ???
[14:53:46] <CaptHindsight> pinged out
[14:54:50] <CaptHindsight> good use for any old tree trunks you have laying around https://www.youtube.com
[14:55:04] <rmu> looks like a mine shaft
[14:55:52] <jthornton> Jymmm: no videos for me except during free time
[14:56:09] <CaptHindsight> Mein Shaft, the story continues
[14:56:20] <Jymmm> jthornton: It's 45m too
[14:56:46] <fragalot> lol
[14:57:04] <jthornton> way too long for me to watch
[14:57:24] <CaptHindsight> hey Jymmm what are there hunker down nuts worried about?
[14:57:33] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: keeping the beer cool
[14:57:35] <CaptHindsight> there/these
[14:58:13] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: You mean why they do it?
[14:58:28] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: or why a bunker?
[14:58:37] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: yes, what is the fear of?
[14:58:48] <fragalot> I liked colin furze's one
[14:58:59] <fragalot> "I'mma build a bunker in my backyard, and this TV crew is going to pay for it"
[14:59:21] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: zombies (the human kind) I suppose
[14:59:36] <CaptHindsight> like Jesus?
[14:59:53] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: he said human. not lizard
[15:00:35] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Like those that would panic and take/kill others for their own survival instead of working together
[15:00:49] <CaptHindsight> cat video therapy didn't work?
[15:00:53] <fragalot> oh. you mean the mole people
[15:01:10] <CaptHindsight> i saw that movie
[15:01:16] <Jymmm> human zombie = walking around with no clue after a disaster, feeding/leeching off of others, etc
[15:01:34] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com
[15:01:41] <fragalot> I'm kinda jealous of the quality of their concrete work compared to the "professionally done" slab i've got under my shed
[15:01:45] <CaptHindsight> The Mole People | Trailer | 1956
[15:02:11] <Jymmm> fragalot: wait till you see their "door" work
[15:02:21] <fragalot> Jymmm: already way past that
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[15:02:42] <gloops> the log slice with leds isnt a bad idea, if you wanted to sell them though the leds would have to be in a heart shape
[15:03:38] <fragalot> or a green up arrow if you're going for a niche market
[15:03:48] <CaptHindsight> freash outta tree trunks here
[15:05:48] <Jymmm> I'm just curious of if it/one could survive in underground bunker during a 2+ week long forest fire
[15:06:32] <CaptHindsight> https://youtu.be Chest from Old Hollowed out Log
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[15:06:58] <fragalot> Jymmm: assuming you got the air conditioning right, and it's deep enough, sure
[15:07:27] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: I have survived every forest fire this this season
[15:07:37] <CaptHindsight> -this
[15:08:01] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: but were you in an underground bunker?
[15:08:15] <CaptHindsight> no, i stayed 2k miles away
[15:09:04] <CaptHindsight> i didn't bury my head in the ground
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[15:10:07] <rmu> reminds me of the guy that kept his daughter locked up in a basement prison and fathered 3 or 4 children with her
[15:10:07] <CaptHindsight> hey there's a fire coming this way, what do we do?
[15:10:26] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: release the hounds
[15:10:39] <CaptHindsight> one got away from her captor yesterday
[15:10:55] <Rab> Party in the shipping container! The popcorn makes itself!
[15:11:07] <JT-Shop> Nick001-Shop: yea linux mint 18 works with linuxcnc
[15:11:59] <CaptHindsight> A) Go underground. B) Move away from the fire.
[15:12:57] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: underground only works as long as you have a supply of oxygen available
[15:13:15] <CaptHindsight> C) Ask yourself why you chose to live where there is fire
[15:13:21] <Jymmm> and a way to get rid of CO
[15:13:46] <gloops> i dont like bunkers, a bunker will become your tomb
[15:13:58] <gloops> id survive like the fox
[15:14:21] <CaptHindsight> D) Build a fence
[15:15:47] <gloops> what does a post apocalypse starving psychopathic gang look for - bunkers to loot
[15:15:58] <gloops> and bunker occupants to rape/eat
[15:16:05] <CaptHindsight> what is more likely? A) Get infected by a pathogen. B) Burned to death by forest fire. C) Central and Mexicans steal your women and jobs
[15:16:29] <gloops> they all seem to go together lol
[15:17:11] <SpeedEvil> With all this hype, people are forgetting the real threat.
[15:17:18] <SpeedEvil> Has nobody today seen the movie Caddyshack?
[15:17:28] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: You know that I right there, right?
[15:17:30] <enleth> gloops: burning infected unemployed mexicans?
[15:17:38] <CaptHindsight> we need a fence around deadly pathogens
[15:18:02] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: you live in fire central?
[15:18:03] <SpeedEvil> CaptHindsight: https://www.youtube.com
[15:18:22] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Google Campfire
[15:18:37] <SpeedEvil> (BSL 4 - highly infectious pathogen laboratory)
[15:18:44] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: what the fuck are you living there for?
[15:19:10] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: why are you in hurricane area?
[15:19:22] <Jymmm> or earthquake, or tornado, etc
[15:19:34] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: I'm not
[15:20:01] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: where are you?
[15:20:14] <CaptHindsight> why i avoid Oklahoma, it's not just about the dancing
[15:20:38] <enleth> move to Norway, it's one of the most tectonically stable habitable areas in the world, with zero weird weather
[15:21:11] <Jymmm> enleth: is it ever above zero ?
[15:21:19] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: we get the rare tornado in Chicago, ignorance is the major threat here
[15:21:51] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: and feet of snow?
[15:21:52] <CaptHindsight> enleth: are they taking uhmericans?
[15:22:23] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: haven't a good dump of snow for a few years
[15:22:35] <Jymmm> sh
[15:22:59] <rmu> come and get some snow
[15:23:06] <rmu> people even try selling it
[15:23:14] <CaptHindsight> the local ski and sled hills are closed
[15:23:25] <CaptHindsight> it's been too warm this winter
[15:24:03] <enleth> Jymmm: I was on a trip across Norway once in April, it was just fine for a t-shirt during the day, even most of the way up north
[15:24:26] <rmu> here they are closed because of avalanche danger
[15:24:53] <CaptHindsight> http://skialpinevalley.com
[15:25:04] <CaptHindsight> all artificial
[15:25:47] <rmu> another 50-100cm is forecast this weekend
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[15:26:55] <enleth> cradek: I guess, if you don't insist on bringing any high-yield freedom delivery equipment along
[15:27:09] <enleth> blah
[15:27:13] <CaptHindsight> gregcnc: https://www.weatherbug.com
[15:27:16] <enleth> CaptHindsight: ^
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[15:28:08] <rmu> https://youtu.be
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[15:29:27] <CaptHindsight> enleth: I might have to practice my drinking from what I've heard of the rumors
[15:29:45] <CaptHindsight> or is that the Fins?
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[15:31:14] <CaptHindsight> so who would win the drinking contest, the Sweds, Fins or the Norwegians?
[15:31:30] <CaptHindsight> they always point the finger at the other
[15:31:57] <rmu> the Fins
[15:32:37] <CaptHindsight> https://www.icenews.is
[15:33:26] <CaptHindsight> https://www.heartmybackpack.com
[15:33:41] <CaptHindsight> (seemingly reliable sources)
[15:34:09] <fragalot> lol
[15:34:18] <enleth> CaptHindsight: even the Russians are scared of the Finns, one of the reasons being their drinking habits
[15:34:33] <CaptHindsight> https://www.heartmybackpack.com
[15:34:51] <CaptHindsight> https://news.nationalgeographic.com
[15:35:32] <Jymmm> enleth: But it's norway, and cabin fever in the winter is a real thing
[15:35:52] <rmu> hehe
[15:36:30] <CaptHindsight> http://www.helsinkitimes.fi
[15:37:37] <CaptHindsight> will I be kidnapped and sold as a sex slave?
[15:37:52] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: only in your wet dreams
[15:38:01] <fragalot> brokeback mountain style
[15:38:13] <fragalot> squeal piggy.
[15:38:18] <gloops> those cabins in Finnish woods arent all just saunas you know
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[15:38:34] <gloops> you can tell my the iron rings in the ceiling rafters
[15:39:04] <CaptHindsight> What Do Finnish People Think about Dating Foreigners? https://www.youtube.com
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[15:40:17] <CaptHindsight> is that a real language?
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[15:42:20] <gloops> hmm, sounds asian
[15:42:25] <enleth> quoting Linus Torvalds, "There aren't enough swear-words in the English language, so now I'll have to call you perkeleen vittupää just to express my disgust and frustration with this crap."
[15:42:41] <CaptHindsight> ah the truth What do Finnish People Think about Finnish People? [STREET INTERVIEW] https://www.youtube.com
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[15:44:18] <enleth> the closest English translation is "cursed, evil, irredeemable, disgusting shit of a motherfucker"
[15:45:18] <gloops> something we often think but dont often state
[15:45:43] <enleth> they often mix in Russian profanities, too
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[15:46:33] <fragalot> FFS youtube stop changing my language to dutch & auto-translating titles
[15:46:49] <CaptHindsight> hah
[15:47:08] <enleth> the thing with "perkeleen vittupää" is that when someone says it, they mean it, and they're definitely not being affectionate
[15:48:08] <CaptHindsight> cathartic relief
[15:48:28] <enleth> something like the Quebecois saying aything wih "tabarnak" in it
[15:50:31] <enleth> the closest equivalent being "esti d'épais de marde", I think
[15:50:59] <enleth> English doesn't have anything with these connotations either
[15:53:09] <CaptHindsight> LIVING IN NORWAY | PROS & CONS https://www.youtube.com
[15:54:32] <CaptHindsight> what is more common in Scandinavia countries, kidnapped for sex slave or organ harvesting?
[15:55:19] <CaptHindsight> Scandinavia/Scandinavian
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[15:59:52] <gloops> food for thought https://www.zerohedge.com
[16:00:14] <CaptHindsight> enleth: is cursing a requirement to live in Finland?
[16:00:21] <gloops> "Something Biblical Is Approaching"
[16:01:17] <enleth> CaptHindsight: if it's anything like in slavic cultures, and as far as I know, it is because of their proximity to Russia - yes, it is
[16:01:41] <CaptHindsight> well you can never trust the Russians
[16:01:52] <enleth> CaptHindsight: what's more, even if it's not necessary, it should be *sufficient*
[16:02:00] <CaptHindsight> lol
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[16:02:45] <enleth> as in, you can communicate relatively effectively and with very little ambiguity using swear words only in Russian or Polish, so I imagine it should be doable in Finnish with some Russian loanwords
[16:03:37] <enleth> what's more, it is possible using different forms of just a single word if you only need to convey basic concepts
[16:04:01] <CaptHindsight> https://youtu.be sounds like this
[16:04:29] <CaptHindsight> Planes, Trains & Automobiles - Steve Martin
[16:04:44] <enleth> CaptHindsight: nah, that's *nothing*
[16:04:55] <enleth> he's using way too many non-swear words
[16:05:03] <enleth> English is utterly unsuitable for this
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[16:09:26] <enleth> CaptHindsight: I meant it absolutely literally when I said you can communicate with profanities *only*
[16:11:00] <enleth> English is too weakly inflected to be usable in this manner
[16:11:44] <fragalot> that's why brits get creative
[16:12:20] <CaptHindsight> not really a big deal
[16:12:38] <fragalot> https://www.youtube.com
[16:13:42] <gloops> the language of Shakespeare...
[16:14:37] <CaptHindsight> is this still funny after you leave jr high?
[16:14:46] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: no.
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[16:31:05] <CaptHindsight> anyone ever been turned down for a job/project for knowing too much/too skilled etc?
[16:32:32] <Jymmm> being overqualified, yeah
[16:32:57] <CaptHindsight> did you start acting dumb to better your chances?
[16:33:37] <Jymmm> it was more a hindsight thing, they felt I would be bored and leave
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[16:39:54] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: would you have left for that reason?
[16:40:01] <gloops> https://news.sky.com
[16:40:20] <gloops> well, they did it, with no dodgy shadows
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[16:41:04] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Not really
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[16:44:06] <CaptHindsight> https://news.sky.com
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[19:06:38] <Wolf_ITX> JT-Shop, taking a look at the updated configuration tool now
[19:07:27] <jthornton> cool, been working on it more this evening but time to start cooking dinner
[19:10:02] <Wolf_ITX> possible dumb question, whats position offset/feedback for on the display tab
[19:11:11] <Wolf_ITX> wonder if leaving those set at 'none' breaks the pendant display
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[20:20:12] <elmo40> emsjessec, i can send you an sldprt file
[20:22:01] <jdh> I can send you a jpg
[20:42:52] <Jymmm> I can fax a chicken
[20:43:32] <CaptHindsight> just the fax jacks
[20:44:53] <Jymmm> No jacks, just fax chickens
[20:44:57] <Jymmm> they are fluffier
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[20:59:28] <CaptHindsight> don't conscience strickens before they hatch
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