#linuxcnc | Logs for 2019-01-16
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[00:05:54] <Jymmm> You guys have been doing CNC so wrong all these years... https://www.youtube.com
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[02:00:11] <Wolf__> the irony of getting a Mazak ad while watching a junk built cnc machine video…
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[02:30:46] <CaptHindsight> hah
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[03:40:19] <Deejay> moin
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[04:09:32] <selroc> log
[04:09:32] <russian_troll> selroc: Today's Log http://www.isaeff.net
[04:09:32] <c-log> selroc: Today's Log http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[04:11:09] <selroc> do not contact that pink_vampire she is a whatsapp troll
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[04:20:30] <MarcelineVQ> dunno about that, pink_vampire has done vids of working on her equipment
[04:20:45] <MarcelineVQ> while responding to people from the irc
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[04:21:16] <MarcelineVQ> So I guess the question to ask is, what is a whatsapp troll?
[04:25:39] <selroc> it a troll who shows up on whatsapp and then disappears
[04:28:53] <selroc> I found a trolling message from pink,in my whatsapp......
[04:32:21] <MarcelineVQ> Well I meant what do you mean by troll mostly. she's pretty normal in here at least
[04:33:57] <MarcelineVQ> like if someone opened a message to me with "hey ugly" I wouldn't think they were trolling, just being goofy
[04:34:46] <selroc> that is a message that refers to some weird sexual stuff and I don't think it is serious
[04:35:25] <MarcelineVQ> my first reaction would be to think that their account is compromised in that case
[04:35:26] <selroc> but she asked me for my cell phone and I gave it, then she disappears and I can't find her
[04:36:26] <selroc> I don;t know if a whatsapp account can be compromised that way
[04:36:39] <MarcelineVQ> everything can be compromised that way
[04:37:49] <selroc> so to be nice we have to warn her that the account has problems
[04:38:26] <MarcelineVQ> And to take care to not give out phone numbers to people acting strangely <_<
[04:38:56] <selroc> can you contact her
[04:39:03] <rmu> i don't really know whatsapp but i thought you kinda needed a cell number to message somebody?
[04:39:29] <rmu> so whats the point in giving someone your phone number over whatsapp? they already have it?
[04:39:30] <selroc> do you have a email address?
[04:41:06] <MarcelineVQ> I don't have contact info
[04:41:25] <rmu> btw, googling for "pink_vampire" results in 200 mio results
[04:49:25] <selroc> there is no hope then :-) , last resort is waiting for her to show up here
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[05:14:28] <XXCoder1> Wolf__: nah! not ironic. smart marketing. "look our stuff is good. mnot that shite"
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[05:15:49] <XXCoder1> Jymmm: better design than reprap lol
[05:16:26] <XXCoder1> "Without DVD ROM Mechanism" then uses cd/dvd drive stepper and screw/
[05:16:40] <XXCoder1> floppy actually I think
[05:20:46] <XXCoder1> clickspring. awesome
[05:46:15] <jthornton> morning
[05:46:37] <XXCoder1> yo
[06:15:35] <Tom_L> morning
[06:15:45] <XXCoder1> yo
[06:17:03] <Tom_L> 31°F and fog
[06:17:56] <XXCoder1> 32f and no fog
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[06:29:19] <jthornton> 32°F Fog/Mist
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[07:48:32] <methods_> http://www.fdk.com
[07:48:38] <methods_> smd solid state battery
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[07:54:04] <Loetmichel> maaan... just was "ill at home" for last week... and promplty we dan out of paper towels for the bathroom and bosses wife ordered the cheapest stuff there is: recycled, thin that you can look thru and smelling like unwashed feet. the whole toilet at work smells like said feet now... waht chemical do they use in those paper towels to make it THAT smelly??? (and why do i have such a cheapass
[07:54:04] <Loetmichel> "controller" boss wife?)
[08:08:02] <sensille> bring your own :D
[08:08:30] <rmu> Loetmichel: old 30 year old vintage DDR stock?
[08:09:14] <Loetmichel> rmu: sure smells like it ,)
[08:14:12] <rmu> Loetmichel: could be something like butyric acid or something similar. Some bacteria produce it.
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[08:47:46] <jthornton> some sneaky animal found out last night what an electric fence is lol
[08:55:14] <Loetmichel> jthornton: heard the noises or saw the destruction to the fence this morning?
[08:55:44] <XXCoder1> or witnessed it?
[08:56:04] <XXCoder1> or just assumed that it happened? okay that covers all possibvilities lol
[08:56:10] <XXCoder1> well almost anyway
[08:56:20] * Loetmichel once saw whats left if a rat decides to jump on 800A 400V three phase power rails...
[08:56:24] <Loetmichel> ... NOT much ;)
[08:57:17] <Loetmichel> but the stink in that cabinet was pretty overwhelming
[08:58:12] <XXCoder1> youre tasting and smelling the rat
[09:00:26] <Loetmichel> indeed
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[09:01:05] <XXCoder1> well off to bed laters
[09:02:35] <jthornton> the insulators will move and the wire slacks when they bounce back
[09:02:52] <jthornton> cheap plastic insulator on the gate
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[10:56:38] <Jymmm> XXCoder1: I thought it was pretty good =)
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[12:13:26] <fragalot> Hi
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[13:26:28] <gloops> i see the little leader in France had a go at the UK today, maybe he should try sorting his own mess out
[13:32:26] <fragalot> lol
[13:32:45] <fragalot> gloops: why would he when he could just distract people instead?
[13:33:14] <gloops> yes thats what hes on with
[13:36:44] <fragalot> gloops: care to wager in on the outcome this time?
[13:37:10] <fragalot> I'm guessing she'll come out alright, because getting stuck without a .gov right now would probably not help things
[13:37:16] <gloops> the tories will win, probably by 10
[13:37:44] <gloops> DUP have pledged support, there might be 1 or 2 tories do the untinkable
[13:37:49] <gloops> unthinkable
[13:39:00] <gloops> there will be more no confidence votes, if Labour commit to a second referendum then some tories might switch
[13:40:20] <fragalot> can they call these votes in such rapid succession?
[13:40:28] <fragalot> or is there a cooldown period like the vote against may directly
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[13:41:38] <gloops> i think they can be called if there is good reason, normally the main opposition party, but the other smaller parties can try
[13:42:10] <gloops> i dont think there is a statutory minimum gap
[13:42:46] <fragalot> if there isn't, then why don't they call one every week?
[13:43:05] <gloops> they could, but theyd look stupid
[13:43:11] <fragalot> they're politicians
[13:43:27] <fragalot> half of them are
[13:43:28] <fragalot> :P
[13:43:35] <gloops> tbh im not up on the details of no confidence votes, only ever been one other in my lifetime
[13:43:43] <SpeedEvil> Calling frivolous votes means you are less likely to get through non frivolous votes as the people you want to vote for you get pise off
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[13:44:03] <fragalot> gloops: you could learn a thing or 2 from our government then
[13:44:13] <rmu> fragalot: there a 600 of them, clearly more than half of them is stupid ;) as in every other group that is large enough
[13:44:31] <fragalot> rmu: 50% of them are dumber than the rest of them!
[13:45:19] <gloops> labour isnt even leading the polls, even if the government was brought down and an election held, labour would probably lose seats
[13:45:21] <rmu> fragalot: my point is that given a large enough group of people adding more people just makes the average more stupid
[13:46:19] <rmu> fragalot: this sentence can be made true for any percentage ;)
[13:46:29] <fragalot> :D
[13:46:38] <fragalot> that's the beauty of it
[13:47:09] <gloops> politicians are unlikely to vote for less government, thats like coal miners voting for cleaner air
[13:50:20] <rmu> got my vers.by probes today - curious how they perform
[13:50:36] <fragalot> your what now?
[13:51:15] <rmu> belorussian touch probes
[13:51:27] <fragalot> who'mever is speeching in UK parliament now isn't holding back, jesus
[13:51:34] <rmu> https://vers.by
[13:51:55] <fragalot> rmu: Ooo, shiny
[13:52:40] <rmu> fragalot: you can hear them on the other side of the channel?
[13:52:54] <fragalot> haha
[13:52:59] <gloops> at the other end of the spectrum, i got my £4 laser cross hair thing
[13:53:23] <gloops> ill make a holder with screw adjustment for it
[13:53:42] <fragalot> rmu: care to let us know how well they work? the price sounds like there's no way, but the renders look great :P
[13:53:43] <rmu> gloops: those touch probes are very affordable at about 150€. look at the price of a renishaw-set.
[13:54:19] <gloops> oh i dont know 150 is a lot for wood
[13:54:59] <fragalot> you can barely get a good edge finder for that for metalworking
[13:55:40] <fragalot> my current (haimer style) touch probe was €450.. and that doesn't feed back automatically
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[13:55:53] <gloops> with batch things i set a rigid edge/square now, only 0 once
[13:55:59] <fragalot> forgot what make it was, but it's slim & german
[13:56:03] <rmu> hmm. those spinning edge finders are not that expensive IIRC. i got one for about 15€ or so. probably isn't super accurate, but more than 1/100 isn't doable with this method anyways
[13:56:23] <fragalot> rmu: i've had bad luck with the cheap ones
[13:56:42] <fragalot> and the higher end ones are VERY repeatable
[13:56:49] <rmu> fragalot: it's 2 rods connected with a spring
[13:57:06] <fragalot> rmu: it's the surface in between, how perpendicular & how well lapped
[13:57:31] <fragalot> it doesn't matter that much for center finding, but for edge finding it makes quite a few microns difference
[13:57:56] <rmu> i don't care about microns, my mill only positions to about 1/100mm ;)
[13:58:39] <rmu> (the cnc one)
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[14:05:29] <rmu> my biggest source of error with the vers probe will probably be the collet
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[14:06:48] <fragalot> rmu: normally they have a way to adjust for that
[14:09:16] <rmu> it should
[14:12:32] <fragalot> rmu: got a picture of "the real thing" ?
[14:14:05] <rmu> tomorrow
[14:14:13] <rmu> left it at work
[14:14:26] <fragalot> k
[14:14:39] <rmu> i also got the toolsetter
[14:16:17] <gloops> the tories win by 19 i think
[14:16:36] <gloops> good result
[14:17:24] <fragalot> not far off your guess, well done
[14:18:39] <gloops> well she only has a majority of 9 lol, 19 is very good for the tories
[14:19:05] <fragalot> corbyn sounds upset
[14:20:01] <gloops> the polls show labour slipping behind, he probably will never be the prime minister, if/when he loses the next general election he has got to go
[14:22:03] <gloops> in the midst of all this chaos the opposition should be well ahead - he has had 0 impact
[14:23:13] <fragalot> he's, as far as I can tell from here, not actually put forth anything useful
[14:23:32] <fragalot> just saying that "if we were in power, we'd get to bake the cake, AND eat it"
[14:23:57] <gloops> in these times, his problem is he is a devout euro-sceptic - the labour party today is mainly pro-EU
[14:24:28] <gloops> the old labour party hated the EU they saw it as a neo-liberal club for bankers
[14:25:24] <Rab> Is that wrong?
[14:25:34] <gloops> i wouldnt say so
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[14:42:29] <SpeedEvil> gloops: Corbyn is of the 'crash out' mindset.
[14:43:06] <fragalot> SpeedEvil: but without harming free trade, expats, or free movement of people
[14:43:23] <SpeedEvil> fragalot: Also, there will be unicorns singing the red flag.
[14:43:32] <fragalot> don't be ridiculous
[14:43:35] <fragalot> you can't "sing" a flag
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[14:58:05] <gloops> thats the beauty of being in opposition, you can promise anything
[14:58:17] <fragalot> and don't have to deliver on anything
[14:58:24] <fragalot> just complain & say you'd do it better
[14:58:30] <gloops> i think we should just bank the money and wait till march 29th
[14:58:36] <fragalot> but IF the government does well, you can claim it's due to yourself too
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[14:59:10] <fragalot> gloops: i'm not so sure that the 39BN would "disappear" even if it's a hard brexit
[14:59:42] <gloops> obviously we'd be willing to talk about it lol
[14:59:47] <fragalot> ie, how much of that number are pure EU expendatures, and how much of them are direct contracts the UK made, via EU?
[15:00:35] <gloops> you never ever pay until the job is finished
[15:01:08] <fragalot> sure, but if they're jobs you have ordered, and they are on-going.. they will finish eventually
[15:01:36] <fragalot> if you then do not pay, even though the other party did exactly as described in the contract..... well there's a word for that.
[15:02:15] <gloops> and theres plenty of things we never had
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[15:04:25] <gloops> the EU might have problems checking these bills - seeing as its books have never been signed off
[15:06:37] <rmu> what does that even mean. signed off. by who?
[15:06:57] <gloops> rmu are you saying the EU is above accountability?
[15:07:08] <rmu> no you say that
[15:07:32] <gloops> no, im saying no auditor has ever signed the books off
[15:07:42] <fragalot> I think you may be mistaken there
[15:08:06] <rmu> what auditor?
[15:08:56] <rmu> you suggest that 28 eu countries conspire in cooking the books?
[15:08:58] <gloops> you mean nobody checks the accounts?
[15:09:16] <gloops> theyre online arent they? like everyone elses, Trumps books are online
[15:09:31] <rmu> with governments such as the polish and hungarian conspiring with denmark and netherlands?
[15:09:39] <gloops> but no - no EU accounts
[15:10:02] <rmu> i don't care about what random numbers trump puts online
[15:10:46] <gloops> in any dispute in normal business, where its one parties word against another, the books are presented
[15:11:17] <fragalot> "last year we spent 11.2BN on mass scale espionage"
[15:11:31] <fragalot> NO country or official conglomerate publishes their books in detail
[15:11:49] <rmu> so what. you are you suggesting that your prime minister is conspiring with the other eu members?
[15:12:24] <fragalot> and i'm pretty sure that the 39BN has been thoroughly vetted by the UK's numbercrunchers, given that it's part of their job description to see how much the country spends on it's foreign contracts
[15:12:43] <gloops> http://0.0.7.224
[15:13:01] <rmu> i was under the impression that the 39bn number is more or less undisputed and the easiest part of the whole shebang
[15:13:56] <gloops> it was pledged on the condition a trade deal was agreed
[15:14:16] <rmu> funny ip address
[15:14:17] <fragalot> that kinda implies they don't dispute the number
[15:14:48] <gloops> im sure a lot of goodwill on the part of the UK was included in that figure
[15:15:06] <gloops> the true debt is half that
[15:15:43] <rmu> why should there be
[15:16:07] <gloops> we entered the negotiations as friends and neighbours
[15:16:25] <gloops> it now seems we may have been mistaken
[15:17:14] <fragalot> is that what you tell your plumber when he comes over? :P
[15:17:54] <gloops> i am my plumber lol
[15:18:34] <rmu> 0.0.0.0/8 is not a routeable ip network
[15:19:16] <fragalot> rmu: it is if you somehow register the "0" TLD :3
[15:19:28] <gloops> https://order-order.com
[15:20:00] <gloops> Some examples of waste include a project where the team tasked with repaving a 1 kilometre footpath in Italy ended up buying a €4,000 mountain bike, a €3,500 panoramic spyglass and donating €10,000 to a local church from their budget.
[15:20:26] <rmu> qtf is that
[15:21:02] <rmu> where there is money there will be corruption
[15:21:20] <rmu> an austrian bank managed to sink 20bn€ in croatia
[15:21:46] <gloops> one dutch trawler gets a quarter of our fish quota https://www.dailymail.co.uk
[15:21:57] <gloops> we never signed up for any of this!
[15:22:47] <fragalot> thing is
[15:22:48] <fragalot> you kinda did
[15:22:52] <rmu> i detect whining
[15:23:32] <gloops> well alls im saying, some adjustment to the bill might be necessary
[15:24:00] <gloops> youre not telling me they dont go over their quotas, we dont know what theyre taking back
[15:24:03] <rmu> but the number is not the issue
[15:24:42] <gloops> oh good lol
[15:26:34] <rmu> if there was a vote tomorrow in parliament and the number would be 19bn it would also fail
[15:27:05] <fragalot> in any case if the number was up for dispute it would get settled in den hague
[15:27:11] <MarcelineVQ> fishing has always been a shitshow everywhere you go, it's one of those industries, little accountability or way way misplaced accountability.
[15:27:22] <MarcelineVQ> for example around here it's known to happen that if you catch something you shouldn't have caught, say some fish or mammal that some whiny special interest group decided was cute and there's a fishery rep on board your boat they'll order you to toss the whole thing, tons of dead animals because you picked up a single wrong one that you don't even have control over, and is already dead anyway.
[15:27:56] <MarcelineVQ> *tons of dead animal wasted
[15:28:16] <gloops> the DUP - irish unionist party holds the balance of power in the UK now, and they know a bit about negotiating, May must listen to them now, they argue that only half the 39 should be paid
[15:28:29] <gloops> pending a trade deal result
[15:28:45] <fragalot> and den hague will have the final ruling about that
[15:28:47] <rmu> gloops: and then they would accept the backstop?
[15:29:02] <gloops> rmu no backstop, not in any shape or form
[15:29:04] <fragalot> because the EU might not have any legal power, the world court still might have a say in the matter
[15:29:45] <gloops> fragalot thats a can that can be kicked down the road for eternity, if you havent paid
[15:29:48] <fragalot> and I can imagine that getting trade deals with a country that has actively broken contracts might not be ideal
[15:30:30] <gloops> they will deal, the UK is a big customer
[15:30:53] <rmu> there are probably british assets in exzess of 39bn abroad that could be "leveraged"
[15:31:30] <gloops> where?
[15:31:30] <rmu> forfeiture of ships or airplanes. i don't think anybody wants to go there
[15:31:42] <gloops> nobody will go there
[15:32:31] <rmu> like that argentinian vessel that was appropriated by a us hedge fonds
[15:32:34] <fragalot> all I want is for brexit to be delayed until june, that way my GF can get her belgian nationality & you guys can close the borders :P
[15:33:11] <gloops> EU parliament elections in July? we cant be in the EU without MEPs
[15:33:30] <rmu> the problem with those negotiations is that no single coherent opinion with majority exists in british parliament
[15:33:30] <fragalot> I'll settle for end of may
[15:33:38] <gloops> all our MEPs step down in March
[15:34:17] <gloops> unlikely any extension will go beyond July
[15:34:49] <fragalot> doesn't need to
[15:34:50] <fragalot> end of may is fine
[15:36:04] <rmu> end of may wouldn't be good for my wales-trip in june
[15:36:29] <gloops> rmu correct, but the cunning brexiteer David Davis got the house to vote for article 50 with a fixed leaving date, in the event of no majority for any deal, we still leave - without one
[15:36:34] <fragalot> i'm more interested in being able to continue to afford my house with our dual income :P
[15:38:03] <gloops> he also penned that brilliant resignation letter with 'come on England' as the first letter for each line lol
[15:38:35] <gloops> or something like that
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[15:42:10] <rmu> this order-order.com doesn't have any imprint, no name in DNS and even AS hides behind a PO box in TX
[15:42:48] <rmu> funny.
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[15:45:19] <rmu> you can advertise there via https://www.messagespace.co.uk
[15:45:26] <rmu> "We influence the political debate and shape the arguments ahead of the mainstream media."
[15:45:28] <fragalot> hey a "local" (ish) seller has started selling pantorouter kits
[15:46:21] <gloops> i might knock up some drawings for one fragalot
[15:46:29] <gloops> they might even sell
[15:46:30] <fragalot> https://www.gereedschappro.nl
[15:46:44] <fragalot> why not just support matthias & buy his drawings?
[15:46:59] <fragalot> the price is reasonable, and all of the kinks have been worked out already
[15:47:50] <gloops> probably is reasonable for an ally kit, id make it with wood i guess
[15:48:00] <fragalot> I meant the drawings
[15:48:39] <gloops> i am thinking about making a cnc just for joints, similar format
[15:48:53] <fragalot> so a small horizontal setup
[15:49:15] <fragalot> can you not just mount the head on your mill sideways?
[15:49:36] <gloops> yeah, i made a vertical work surface for my router - works so well but limited by the length down to the floor
[15:49:56] <fragalot> dig a hole
[15:50:10] <gloops> well, i havent found the limit a problem, but a horizontal set up would be ideal
[15:50:58] <gloops> alternative could be to set a horizontal spindle on the z axis
[15:51:30] <fragalot> that's what I meant
[15:52:13] <gloops> probably easier
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[16:00:49] * JT-Shop attempts to balance the bank accounts and clean his desk
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[16:12:19] <gloops> PM to make Downing Street statement at 10pm tonight < most unusual
[16:19:40] <Jymmm> Ok, I like this very much JT-Shop you might even make one for you to use (yes yes I know when it's free time) https://www.youtube.com
[16:20:57] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: He shoes how to make a "saddle" to hold a grinder that travels along a 2" or 3" square tubing
[16:21:01] <Jymmm> shows*
[16:21:18] <JT-Shop> what is he grinding?
[16:21:46] <Jymmm> he says he's done steeel sheet and tubing, as well as stone, tile, etc
[16:22:06] <Jymmm> HEs not really grinding, but cutting
[16:22:17] <Jymmm> grinder with a cutoff wheel
[16:23:01] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: HE has a 8ft travel
[16:23:09] <fragalot> gotta love how creative people are with grinders on YT
[16:23:39] <Jymmm> fragalot: True, but this is impressive. I'm suuprised harborfraight hasn't gotten these made
[16:23:57] <fragalot> it's pretty neat, yeah
[16:24:20] <XXCoder1> and sometimes very caviar with safety lol he does better than most and still ehh at points
[16:24:45] <fragalot> just pop a grinder blade in your tracksaw & go
[16:25:05] <Jymmm> XXCoder1: I didn't see any fingers in the video =)
[16:25:18] <XXCoder1> 9:45
[16:25:25] <Jymmm> ...cut off
[16:25:51] <XXCoder1> lol
[16:26:07] <methods_> mmmmmm caviar safety
[16:26:16] <Jymmm> Safter 99th
[16:26:17] <methods_> don't eat too much caviar at one time
[16:26:26] <Jymmm> safety 99th
[16:29:17] <JT-Shop> that must be horrible to cut stock with a 4 1/2" cut off blade lol
[16:29:39] <fragalot> not that bad with the thin bladezs
[16:29:48] <fragalot> that stray "z" is going to be the end of me >;<
[16:30:14] <methods_> very caviar
[16:43:20] <Deejay> gn8
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[16:47:43] <macgalempsy> hello
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[16:51:32] <macgalempsy> https://peopoly.net
[16:51:58] <macgalempsy> just got an email from these guys about their new printer. it seems to have a pretty nice build volume and the results are pretty amazing.
[16:58:28] <SpeedEvil> Has anyone ever had an email from any guys showing crappy results?
[16:59:51] <macgalempsy> heh, good point
[17:00:14] <macgalempsy> however, the facebook forum has some pretty spectacular results from the modelling world
[17:03:20] <Tom_L> JT-Shop i cut all the steel for my mill with one :D
[17:03:27] <Tom_L> wasn't _that_ bad
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[17:06:28] <Tom_L> andypugh done any scanning with the faro arm yet?
[17:06:48] <JT-Shop> band saw first cut off wheel as a last resort for me
[17:07:09] <Tom_L> no band saw here
[17:07:39] <JT-Shop> I use a jig saw on thin stuff :)
[17:07:52] <Tom_L> i've done that plenty
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[17:51:05] <andypugh> Tom_L: No, still haven’t set up the kins. I was away all Christmas / NY and haven’t got back in to anything.
[17:51:35] <andypugh> Did I show my band-saw mount for cuttting off work on the lathe?
[17:51:50] <andypugh> (When it’s too big to just part-off)
[17:52:04] <Tom_L> i think i saw that
[17:52:17] <Tom_L> but not sure
[17:53:51] <andypugh> https://photos.app.goo.gl
[17:54:21] <Tom_L> no i missed that one
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[18:23:38] <jthornton> do you rotate while cutting?
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[18:27:04] <andypugh> No.
[18:27:18] <andypugh> Well, not yet, but then I have only used it once so far.
[18:28:42] <andypugh> I finally made a swarf tray and tailstock DRO for the lathe, and then haven’t used the lathe at all since…. https://photos.app.goo.gl
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[18:32:34] <jthornton> I know how that goes
[18:33:26] <jthornton> I like how you have the tailstock tools standing up, I need to fit my Samson with a rack
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[18:35:08] <andypugh> jthornton: Here is the STL file for the taper tooling: https://www.thingiverse.com
[18:36:26] <jthornton> cool, I didn't notice the bushings
[18:37:30] <andypugh> The tailstock DRO is a bit different to most, I modelled a whole new back for the caliper slider, and it is held in place with magnets: https://www.thingiverse.com
[18:40:22] <jthornton> pretty slick
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[20:57:06] <MacGalempsy> yo
[20:57:27] <norias> howdy
[20:58:55] <MacGalempsy> makin chips?
[21:01:40] <norias> not right now
[21:01:53] <norias> planning on making chips, and planning for other people to make chips
[21:02:06] <norias> i'm studying cnc milling machine design
[21:02:24] <norias> so, i'm thinking about cobbling together a spindle test bed
[21:02:33] <norias> something with an X and a Z
[21:02:43] <norias> that i can bolt blocks of aluminum or steel to
[21:02:52] <norias> and a v-block to hold the spindle in
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[21:03:36] <norias> okie doke, then
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[23:41:25] <ziper> can you use a horizontal mill as a surface grinder?
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