#linuxcnc | Logs for 2019-01-19
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[00:02:25] <Tom_itx> how's that work?
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[00:04:22] <`Wolf_> set up a znc irc server on a linux machine or synology diskstation and it works as a bouncer
[00:04:25] <Tom_L> a glorified logger?
[00:04:47] <`Wolf_> so I can log in from 4 diffrent machines and only show up as one nick
[00:05:09] <Tom_L> why not ssh into the one server?
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[00:06:39] <`Wolf_> idk lol
[00:07:03] <Tom_L> i'm not familiar with it
[00:08:42] <`Wolf_> i’m not a software guy so I dont know much about it or ssh in to things
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[03:02:41] <Deejay> moin
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[04:01:45] <fragalot> 'sup
[04:06:10] <miss0r> nutin'
[04:06:23] <XXCoder1> lol https://www.youtube.com
[04:06:31] <XXCoder1> yo miss0r
[04:06:46] <miss0r> apparently pepsi does not have a nice taste when it has turned into slushice
[04:08:03] <miss0r> wow
[04:08:15] <XXCoder1> suddenly, a car
[04:08:17] <XXCoder1> *cat
[04:08:59] <miss0r> nice touch making the tires act real in such a small size
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[04:14:17] <XXCoder1> geez!
[04:14:22] <XXCoder1> working lock mechism
[04:14:33] <XXCoder1> not locking but stay close and open
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[04:17:03] <XXCoder1> woah
[04:17:20] <XXCoder1> he keeps rising my expections and beating it.
[04:17:24] <XXCoder1> that truck is insane
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[04:19:16] <miss0r> I'm a bit dissapointed he did not make miniature hex bolt heads
[04:19:21] <miss0r> instead of those allen ones
[04:19:35] <XXCoder1> lol ok
[04:20:45] <miss0r> but very impressive still :D
[04:23:28] <miss0r> XXCoder1 https://www.youtube.com
[04:25:48] <miss0r> right down to the innerts of the braking system :D
[04:28:23] <XXCoder1> of course window is cracked lol
[04:29:48] <miss0r> :D
[04:30:06] <XXCoder1> detail is insane
[04:31:09] <Wolf__> wait till you see my scale ’69 ford bronco build
[04:31:13] <miss0r> I've build a real size car from scratch, like the model. I can tell you - everything looks realy realy good :D
[04:31:14] <Wolf__> 1:1
[04:31:21] <miss0r> :D
[04:31:24] <XXCoder1> lol
[04:31:48] <Wolf__> full tube frame
[04:32:12] <miss0r> A few days ago I replaced the oil filter console with a newer spin on model. Doing that I broke a t-joint... :-/
[04:32:34] <miss0r> I'm glad I have a machine shop.. the t-joint was a quite special one, which I could not find a replacement for
[04:33:00] <miss0r> it featured: outside 12x1.25 thread, outside 10x1.25 & inside 3/8 BSF
[04:33:21] <miss0r> Made a nice brass replica in little under two hours :D
[04:33:26] <Wolf__> yeah that sounds odd
[04:34:35] <miss0r> yeah. "originaly" the 88" series three land rovers were only shipped with a oil pressure switch. My one had a oil pressure gauge fittet at some point. That t-joint sits where the pressure switch is normally fitted, to allow for an oil line to go to the gauge
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[04:35:14] <miss0r> also; if I haden't broken the original t-joint, I would still have to make a new one, because the later oil filter consoles are metric, and accepts the 10x1.25 thread, where the old one had a 3/8 BSF
[04:36:07] <miss0r> but I *could* have gotten away with it.. the 3/8 BSF threads flawlessly into a 10x1.25... I think you'd need 300mm of thread for them to start binding :D
[04:36:21] <miss0r> but using a 55degree thread in a 60degree one is not ideal
[04:37:25] <Wolf__> lol yeah not helpful for sealing either
[04:37:52] <miss0r> well, that is done with a cobber washer... so not realy an issue
[04:40:58] <Wolf__> oh right, straight thread fittings
[04:41:52] <miss0r> Time to go grocery shopping... Back to the real world
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[04:43:28] <XXCoder1> lol that cat is breed type that always look angry or imperial
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[05:18:09] <fragalot> miss0r: pepsi never has a good taste anyway
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[05:50:07] <jthornton> morning
[05:51:03] <XXCoder1> yo
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[06:59:19] <Tom_L> morning
[06:59:57] <XXCoder1> morning
[07:00:04] <Tom_L> 19°F Hi 23
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[07:31:38] <jthornton> 47°F high 31°F
[07:31:59] <Tom_L> bit breezy out today too
[07:32:22] <Tom_L> dogs didn't care much for it
[07:33:56] <jthornton> pretty wet here
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[12:14:43] <Vitran> It is 20°C below here and snow. What is the rest of the world up to?
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[12:24:36] <gambakufu> 9.6c and wishing it would snow.
[12:28:11] <rmu> -12°C, 1,5m Snow. mostly sunny/clear sky.
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[14:57:44] <fragalot> gloops: https://imgur.com
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[15:28:48] <Gaston|DSP> Question for all: I want to have a look at qtpyvcp and is trying to follow instructions from https://qtpyvcp.kcjengr.com
[15:29:18] <Gaston|DSP> I picked Linux Mint 19.1 and followed https://www.linuxmint.com
[15:29:24] <hazzy-m> Hello Gaston|DSP
[15:29:44] <Gaston|DSP> Hi hazzy-m :P
[15:29:55] <Gaston|DSP> and https://gnipsel.com
[15:30:17] <Gaston|DSP> I'm getting stuck towards the end of the build process
[15:30:27] <Gaston|DSP> (of emc)
[15:30:52] <Gaston|DSP> Now the Question. Have I picked the wrong OS to build linuxcnc on?
[15:31:31] <Gaston|DSP> I'm doing it on a Vbox with 2 coires assigned, but am getting weird gl-linking errors
[15:31:42] <hazzy-m> No, Mint 19.1 is just fine for LCNC (what I am using right now)
[15:33:34] <Gaston|DSP> This is what I'm getting toward the end of the build process https://pastebin.com
[15:34:36] <Gaston|DSP> In particular dpkg-shlibdeps: error: no dependency information found for /var/lib/VBoxGuestAdditions/lib/libGL.so.1 (used by debian/linuxcnc-uspace/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/_togl.x86_64-linux-gnu.so)
[15:34:36] <Gaston|DSP> Hint: check if the library actually comes from a package.
[15:34:52] <rmu> Gaston|DSP: is this in a virtual box?
[15:34:57] <Gaston|DSP> yeah
[15:35:07] <hazzy-m> I think jthornton mentioned that one of the commands was out of order in that tutorial, but he may have already fixed that
[15:35:51] <Gaston|DSP> Hmm, yeah there was a missing file in the beginning that was supposed to check for dependencies, but I just skipped it :)
[15:36:18] <rmu> so the debian package generator complains because it detects that the vbox guest addition libGL is used, but that is not part of any debian package so it cant generate dependency
[15:36:21] <Gaston|DSP> I think it was this one: dpkg-checkbuilddeps
[15:36:58] <hazzy-m> Gaston|DSP: do you realy need to compile LCNC from source? It might be easyer to install from the build bot if all you want to do is play with qtpyvcp ...
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[15:37:59] <rmu> you could try to add --ignore-missing-info to the invokation of dpkg-shlibdeps
[15:40:03] <Gaston|DSP> So that would be in debian/rules right?
[15:40:46] <Gaston|DSP> hazzy-m: I'm just following the instructions recursive ;)
[15:40:56] <rmu> dh_shlibdeps in debian/rules
[15:41:22] <Gaston|DSP> rmu, Trying it now, thanks
[15:41:53] <rmu> i'm not sure about syntax, maybe it is dh_shlibdeps -- --ignore-missing info
[15:42:09] <rmu> then it should ignore the missing dependency
[15:42:42] <hazzy-m> Gaston|DSP: I see that there is not a section on installing on Mint 19.1 from the BuildBot, that is a omission! Sorry about that, I'll add it ASAP
[15:43:51] * Gaston|DSP is building new .deb, let's see how it goes
[15:45:56] <hazzy-m> Gaston|DSP: This works on Mint 19.1 as well as Debian 9: https://gnipsel.com
[15:53:10] <Gaston|DSP> ok, thanks hazzy-m, I'll go with that if this latest build doesn't work. Might even roll back the VM first
[15:55:13] <Gaston|DSP> hazzy-m: You have no Idea how many people I have shown that dark theme you and Lcvette are working on, Great work! and thanks from myself and those I have shown it to
[15:56:34] <Gaston|DSP> rmu: It wasnt --ignore-missing-info, let's try --ignore-missing info before I give up
[16:06:08] <rmu> Gaston|DSP: no it is --ignore-missing-info, but that argument is passed via dh_shlibdeps to dpkg-shlibdeps, and dh_libdeps seems to need an extra --
[16:06:38] <rmu> (man dh_shlibdeps and dpkg-shlibdeps)
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[16:40:40] <Deejay> gn8
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[16:45:35] <Gaston|DSP> rmu, the syntax was -dpkg-shlibdeps-params=--ignore-missing-info
[16:45:53] <Gaston|DSP> so the complete changed line is dh_shlibdeps -l debian/linuxcnc-uspace/usr/lib --dpkg-shlibdeps-params=--ignore-missing-info
[16:47:26] <Gaston|DSP> rmu and hazzy-m, thanks for helping me out!
[16:48:33] <hazzy-m> Gaston|DSP: Thank you for muddling thru the incomplete documentation!
[16:49:10] <hazzy-m> I'm getting ready to publish a new release with a bunch of bug fixes
[16:50:23] <Gaston|DSP> sounds great, I'm actually very impressed with the activity in that tree !
[16:59:20] <hazzy-m> yes, there are several of us adding bugs at an alarming rate, lol
[17:14:46] <Connor> So, question. I was working on the Bridgeport the other day. I had it in back-gear and on the lowest pulley setting.. and I had the VFD turned down to 30 hertz. So, the motor should have been running at half speed. It started cogging.. I.E. Speed up, slowed down.. just oscillating. I turned it off.. turned it the speed knob up and turned it back on and it did it again. Took it out of back gear.. worked fine. Put it back in back
[17:15:21] <SpeedEvil> Motor behaviour at low speeds includes inertia and the mechanical system.
[17:17:35] <Connor> You think it was just taking too much torque on startup and confused the VFD?
[17:21:52] <gregcnc> lower spindle speeds by belt/gear reduce torque load on the motor
[17:22:38] <Connor> Yes, but, I had lowered the speed with back gear, belt AND Mhz on the VFD.
[17:22:54] <Connor> I'm wondering if the increased drag of the backgear caused it to have issues on startup.
[17:23:10] <gregcnc> I run my lathe to 10Hz with no issues
[17:23:16] <Connor> It hadn't been ran in a few days..
[17:23:43] <gregcnc> does back gear add that much friction on a BP?
[17:24:43] <gregcnc> I don't see any reason that setup should cause trouble
[17:25:14] <gregcnc> if you have a separate pot wired, i'd check it
[17:46:47] <jthornton> about 8" of wet snow so far and it's not supposed to stop till tomorrow noon or so
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[18:02:25] <Loetmichel> gnhihi. the human brain is a cuious thing. Just watched a movie with my wife... there was a red haired mom with a brunette daughter... "thats not possible as far as i know... i read something about that a few decades back!"... moments later my wife had to endure a full fledged lecture about genetics... the things you forgot you know that come back at the slightest trigger... ;)
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[18:10:35] <jthornton> lol my parents had 3 red haired children and the last one was not, I guess because my Dad threatened to dye his hair if they had another red head child lol
[18:11:15] <jthornton> we told her she was adopted... dang kids are cruel
[18:11:43] <Loetmichel> JT-Shop: i dont think it works like your dad imagined it ;)
[18:13:35] <jthornton> I'd bet but it was his story lol
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[23:04:43] <XXCoder> LOL https://boingboing.net
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