#linuxcnc | Logs for 2019-01-27
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[00:08:43] <ItsFlipp> hey all. anyone here have/use a FogBuster?
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[01:17:04] <Wolf__> i modded a noga super cool to work as a fog buster
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[01:45:25] <XXCoder> cool
[01:45:40] <XXCoder> I saw few systems that can be used as mist cooler
[01:45:52] <XXCoder> ItsFlipp: you mean removal of mist from coolant spraying?
[01:46:04] <XXCoder> work few machines has em and its quite nice
[01:46:54] <Wolf__> fogbuster is a brand
[01:47:23] <XXCoder> oh. when i see fog and buster I was thinking more removal of mist than add
[01:47:44] <XXCoder> robo machines insides do get foggy if mist remover isnt running
[01:49:56] <Wolf__> fogbuster works by spitting the coolant out vs spraying it out via venturi and turning the coolant in to vapor
[01:50:27] <XXCoder> makes sense
[01:52:34] <Wolf__> https://i.imgur.com coolant in pressure bottle and fed via a pickup tube in the jar
[01:53:08] <XXCoder> yeah looks familiar lol
[01:53:16] <XXCoder> been few years since last seen one
[01:53:46] <Wolf__> yeah, I made that 3 yrs ago
[01:58:04] <XXCoder> old job had few of those
[01:58:26] <XXCoder> cnc router (hugeass one) and couple manual/=automatic manual mills
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[03:51:11] <Deejay> moin
[03:51:37] <XXCoder> morning
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[04:15:44] <gloops> surely a base for a cnc mill https://www.ebay.co.uk
[04:16:18] <XXCoder> dunno i see some odd features
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[04:16:33] <XXCoder> maybe grinder setup
[04:17:05] <XXCoder> it might be missing many parts
[04:17:20] <gloops> well the xy is there, could move a spindle up and down on rails for the z
[04:17:59] <XXCoder> vertainly needs lots love
[04:18:02] <XXCoder> so much rust
[04:18:16] <XXCoder> probablky need strip it all way down
[04:19:18] <gloops> £20 lol, would have to spend a bit to get to that stage building something with steel or extrusions - and probably wouldnt be as solid
[04:19:59] <gloops> i wont be getting it anyway
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[04:26:56] <XXCoder> dunno
[04:38:52] <gloops> https://www.youtube.com
[04:39:02] <gloops> someone asking if linuxcnc can do that
[04:40:30] <gloops> easy
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[05:10:06] <jthornton> morning
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[06:37:19] <sensille> hm, after i paused the program, the offsets were completely off. is this expected?
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[07:26:29] <jthornton> no
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[07:56:19] <Tom_L> morning
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[08:00:10] <jthornton> morning
[08:08:47] <Tom_L> 30°, Hi 53
[08:08:52] <Tom_L> warming up a bit today
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[08:27:34] <jthornton> same here today and tomorrow
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[08:32:59] <jthornton> hmm file manager died
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[09:05:06] <sensille> oh, maybe it was because i pressed the cursor keys during pause
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[09:11:51] <flyback> going to go negative next week
[09:12:00] <flyback> partially fixed dad's snowblower, doing more work later
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[09:16:38] <sensille> might need to split the program to be able to do a manual tool change in the middle
[09:53:31] <jthornton> if you have to touch off each tool only have one tool per program so you can touch off before running
[09:56:31] <sensille> yes, seems like i can't jog/touch off even when the program pauses for manual tool change
[10:07:11] <Tom_L> there's always 'run from line' if that helps
[10:18:03] * sensille tries touch off by multimeter
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[10:33:15] <sensille> Loetmichel: do you use ball end mills?
[10:33:36] <Loetmichel> sensille: sometimes
[10:35:55] <sensille> is there a good way to roghen with a flat mill and finish with a ball end mill?
[10:36:22] <jthornton> split the program into two parts
[10:36:41] <sensille> z touch off after the change seems to be very sensitive
[10:37:11] <jthornton> is that a different problem?
[10:38:02] <sensille> if i do all with one end mill, being off by 0.1mm on z isn't normally really a problem
[10:38:29] <sensille> but when going to a ball end mill z is really critical
[10:39:02] <jthornton> are you saying you can't touch off Z accurately?
[10:39:07] <sensille> i'm trying to mill some slopes
[10:39:26] <jthornton> new problem?
[10:39:32] <sensille> basically yes. but i'm not sure if i have to touch off ball end mills the same way
[10:39:47] <sensille> everything one problem
[10:41:12] <sensille> the core might be that i can't touch off Z precisely, or that i touch off the ball end mill wrongly
[10:41:17] <jthornton> if you touch off the tools to the tool table and use a fixed point to do so then you only touch off the material with tool 1
[10:41:57] <sensille> the tool change is manual and not reproducible
[10:41:58] <jthornton> I assume some type of collet holder in the spindle?
[10:42:02] <sensille> yes
[10:42:23] <jthornton> right so only touch off tools to some fixed place like the top of the table
[10:43:48] <sensille> i see the sense in that
[10:43:52] <jthornton> https://www.youtube.com
[10:43:59] <sensille> and touching off with a multimeter is fine?
[10:44:01] <jthornton> that is me touching off a tool in my lathe
[10:44:24] <jthornton> I've never done that with a multimeter
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[10:44:54] <sensille> i've tried that method, but can't get <0.1mm with that
[10:48:16] <sensille> hm. or my current problem is that i'm using f360 plain wrong
[10:53:32] <jthornton> I get < 0.001" that way so maybe your just doing that wrong
[10:55:38] <sensille> probably
[10:58:45] <XXCoder> know what sucks?
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[10:58:54] <XXCoder> waking up because need to go to restroom and thristy
[10:59:04] <XXCoder> dang 8 am :(
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[10:59:13] <jthornton> 10am
[10:59:39] <Deejay> go to bed again and sleep some mooaar hours :)
[10:59:54] <XXCoder> yeah as soon as im not as thristy
[11:04:41] <Jymmm> shoves a garden hose down XXCoder's throat
[11:05:14] * XXCoder shoves another one in jymmm, but not same hole
[11:05:38] <Jymmm> XXCoder: No thanks, I'm not thirsty
[11:05:54] <XXCoder> its extreme colon cleaseing
[11:07:14] <Jymmm> XXCoder: Nope, gotta buy me dinner first
[11:07:42] <XXCoder> well i certainly didnt want the free drink either but there ya go
[11:08:03] <Jymmm> you said you were thristy
[11:08:28] <XXCoder> yep have cup of water with me already lol
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[11:31:56] <fragalot> hey
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[12:35:26] <fragalot> I wonder if one could make a smelting furnace out of that 'starlite' material
[12:36:04] <XXCoder> problem is fake starlite is made from material that decaus
[12:36:14] <fragalot> true
[12:36:42] <fragalot> just got curious when I saw the hydraulic press channel go at it with a plasma torch
[12:36:55] <fragalot> and that still didn't burn through an 8mm thick piece
[12:37:58] <fragalot> lol, later on in the same video they use it to make a little arc furnace.. Guess that answers my question
[12:38:27] <XXCoder> did real starlite decay too?
[12:38:43] <fragalot> probably
[12:38:43] <XXCoder> i wonder if thats why guy was so controlling of samples, it would decay of shipped somewhere
[12:39:00] <fragalot> I'm sure there's more of a reason than "I didn't want to tell them" why NASA didn't use it
[12:40:11] <XXCoder> yeah
[12:50:04] <Tom_L> when done you can eat it for a snack
[12:50:13] <XXCoder> lol
[12:51:23] <Tom_L> Nicola McDermott, Ward's youngest daughter, stated that Starlite is 'natural' and edible, and that it has been fed to dogs and horses without ill effects.
[12:56:47] <XXCoder> it may indeed be very close to what that guy acciently re-discovered
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[15:32:40] <The_Ball> I'm spending a couple of weeks here in the states before returning to Europe, any tips on where I could hunt for a renishaw omp?
[15:34:35] <skunkworks> HGR Industrial Surplus maybe?
[15:34:41] <JT-Shop> ebay
[15:35:27] <skunkworks> Well - a couple weeks should be enough to get something like that delivered..
[15:35:39] <JT-Shop> https://www.ebay.com
[15:35:39] <skunkworks> The_Ball: where are you?
[15:36:17] <skunkworks> boy those are expensive
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[15:37:20] <JT-Shop> new ones are crazy expensive
[15:38:30] <The_Ball> skunkworks, I'm visiting Boston for a week, then a couple of weeks in Florda Tampa
[15:38:58] <The_Ball> Yes not after a new one, one that still works would be nice, tough I'm quite handy with electronic repairs
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[16:14:35] <InvisibleSkyMan> Google search "most expensive touch probe" Result: What is a Renishaw probe
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[16:21:29] <gloops> the most expensive probe is one bought that doesnt havent any work to do
[16:21:59] <gloops> a 2k probe is cheap if its making 1k a day
[16:22:25] <syyl_> haha
[16:22:29] <syyl_> yes
[16:22:48] <syyl_> and a haimer doesnt make sense if you are clumsy enough to break a tip a day
[16:23:44] <gloops> im into cutters where if i drop one i just get another one out of the box
[16:24:27] <CaptHindsight> nope you can't philosiphize expensive
[16:27:58] <gloops> yes thats another for 'The Engineers guide to the galaxy'
[16:32:42] <CaptHindsight> 2 > 1, convince me I'm wrong
[16:33:28] <fragalot> syyl_: so use a tschorn instead.
[16:34:45] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: genocidezs?
[16:35:08] <fragalot> government shutdowns?
[16:38:00] <CaptHindsight> must go outside to examine strange ball of fire in the sky
[16:39:12] <fragalot> syyl_: I found those inserts you seem to like. https://www.shop-apt.co.uk
[16:39:57] <Deejay> gn8
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[16:42:31] <syyl_> oh interesting
[16:42:39] <syyl_> i finaly found out who made those i got
[16:42:49] <syyl_> they are kenametal inserts
[16:42:55] <fragalot> I've bought a few boxes from apt
[16:43:07] <fragalot> they're not razor sharp out of the box, but they do cut well
[16:43:47] <syyl_> hmm
[16:44:06] <syyl_> the kenametal are ridicioulus sharp ground, especially for a insert for steel-machining
[16:45:29] <fragalot> these are what you'd expect from an "as baked" insert
[16:46:29] <syyl_> with the price they are very appealing ;)
[16:46:44] <fragalot> indeed they are :D
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[18:06:03] <gloops> https://www.facebook.com
[18:07:24] <gloops> think i do something with the exposed screw heads, but otherwise looks addictive
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[18:21:48] <jthornton> geez I have to reflash motioneyeos to change the wifi password lol
[18:28:16] * jthornton notices that motioneye has some of the worst documentation he has seen
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[18:31:03] <jdh> I have some TIG power supplies with voluminous documentation, but seemingly written by an expert who leaves out parts needed by non experts.
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[18:33:41] <jthornton> I try to write documents as if I know nothing about it
[18:34:47] <jthornton> I wonder if my last edit will work for the chicken door?
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[18:35:56] <jdh> I try to do the same, but I know that I will leave out things I feel are obvious
[18:36:58] <jthornton> I tend to leave out the obvious after a bit of explaining the obvious
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[18:40:54] <jthornton> geez finally got the motioneyeos camera to work
[18:42:06] <Tom_itx> required reflashing just for a password change?
[18:42:20] <jdh> paid $18k to have a super special arc starter added. It strikes an arc pretty much anywhere other than across the 0.040 gap to the work.
[18:42:46] <jthornton> yea the wpa_supplicant.conf is owned by root
[18:43:03] <jdh> then paid $6k to have the super arc starter removed and replaced with the plain one.
[18:43:10] <jthornton> damn
[18:43:39] <jdh> strikes fine in argon. we use helium
[18:43:58] <jthornton> Tom_itx: even more crazy is if it does not connect to the LAN it just keeps rebooting lol
[18:44:21] <jthornton> I use fart gas...
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[18:59:45] <XXCoder> man
[18:59:50] <XXCoder> feels like i woke up from dead
[19:02:00] <jthornton> had a bad day sleeping?
[19:02:10] <XXCoder> yeah
[19:02:19] <XXCoder> tired earlier than usual so slept at 2 am
[19:02:27] <XXCoder> woke up at 7 am couldnt sleep tipp 9
[19:02:31] <XXCoder> till
[19:02:38] <jthornton> you work tonight?
[19:02:43] <XXCoder> then finally woke up now at 3:30 pm
[19:02:47] <XXCoder> thankfully no
[19:04:01] <jthornton> 6pm here time to wander upstairs
[19:22:22] <XXCoder> yayn lol
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[20:36:05] <Rab> Okay everybody, time to upgrade: https://www.crowdsupply.com
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[20:40:57] <ziper> i actually used a die
[20:41:06] <ziper> usually they just sit neglected, next to the taps
[20:44:09] <Rab> ziper, used it for making threads, or cleaning threads?
[20:45:19] <ziper> cutting. had a 2.5mm rod with m2.5 threads that snapped. only had a 3mm rod, ground down the ends by hand on a grinder and the cutting actually went rather well
[20:56:07] <jdh> ziper: you do carbon stuff?
[20:56:31] <ziper> yeah
[20:56:50] <jdh> I want to mill a slot in some carbon bike bars. any suggestions?
[20:57:20] <ziper> not yet. so far i'm just doing repairs, should be actually doing manufacturing in a couple months
[20:57:56] <jdh> repairs on what?
[20:58:06] <ziper> one operation of which would be slitting a ~24 inch long ~inch high slot through solid carbon
[20:58:08] <ziper> boats
[20:58:38] <jdh> do the cut fibers need to be sealed?
[20:59:47] <ziper> ideally, but depending on the application not necessarily
[21:00:01] <ziper> do you have a picture of diagram of what you need to do
[21:00:50] <jdh> no. maybe 4mm x 8mm slot cut in the side of handlebars
[21:01:06] <jdh> or a 5mm hole might be sufficient
[21:01:37] <ziper> abrasive disk?
[21:01:51] <jdh> end mill
[21:01:56] <jdh> or just drill
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