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[05:11:02] <jthornton> morning
[05:21:13] <XXCoder> morning
[05:23:25] <jthornton> yea I think I finally got the chicken door input interference solved
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[05:24:45] <XXCoder> what was happening?
[05:27:09] <jthornton> I think the motor was making interference on the door switch inputs
[05:27:48] <XXCoder> oh emf fun
[05:27:59] <XXCoder> so you just added some sheilding?
[05:28:36] <jthornton> https://paste.ubuntu.com
[05:29:15] <jthornton> that function runs every 1/10 second so I just counted to 5 before accepting the input
[05:29:23] <XXCoder> debouncing
[05:29:58] <jthornton> https://paste.ubuntu.com
[05:30:23] <jthornton> that's the whole function that gets called every 1/10 second
[05:30:50] <XXCoder> pretty strightforward it seems to me
[05:33:47] <jthornton> hmm my raspberry pi zero loses signal in the nest box... so much for that plan
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[06:47:39] <jthornton> looks like the cage wire around the run blocks the wifi signal :(
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[06:55:49] <jdh> you keep your chicks in a faraday cage
[06:55:58] <Jymmmmmm> haha
[06:56:27] <Jymmmmmm> who was looking at the GDP... https://ubuntu-mate.org
[06:59:47] <XXCoder> Jymmmmmm: i did consider it
[06:59:59] <XXCoder> but honestly i dont need portable computing very often
[07:00:10] <XXCoder> maybe in future when I need one at shop
[07:01:15] <Jymmmmmm> XXCoder: Yeah, it's that article that made me discover it, but just too much for what it is IMO
[07:01:45] <XXCoder> compact design do need bit more money but for me maybe $300 is fine but 700 or so
[07:01:48] <XXCoder> nah
[07:02:06] <XXCoder> ebay has bunch of em
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[07:03:22] <Jymmmmmm> Plus you can run chrome and linux concurrently on a chromebook for much cheaper =)
[07:04:05] <XXCoder> i kinda wanted windows also for windows onlp programs
[07:04:10] <XXCoder> theres so many :(
[07:04:14] <Jymmmmmm> vbox???
[07:04:27] <Jymmmmmm> wine?
[07:04:35] <XXCoder> is gpd powerful enough for vbox?
[07:04:41] <XXCoder> or chromebook
[07:05:02] <XXCoder> whats windows license like now anyway
[07:05:07] <XXCoder> havent looked up since windows 7
[07:05:12] <Jymmmmmm> Not sure, some chromebooks come with i3-i5 cpu's
[07:06:59] <jdh> pixel has i7
[07:07:16] <XXCoder> 139 bucks apparently for windows 10 home
[07:07:19] <XXCoder> yeah right
[07:08:06] <XXCoder> pixel 2 isnt too expensive 400 bucks or so for pretty good laptop
[07:09:14] <XXCoder> https://www.ebay.com
[07:09:18] <XXCoder> lol chromebook 30 bucks
[07:10:06] <XXCoder> "Samsung Exynos 5 processor (ARM-based CPU)" yeeah
[07:10:28] <XXCoder> probably why theres tons of em dumped into ebay
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[07:14:43] <XXCoder> Jymmmmmm: thanks for reminding me of chrome. when I need one ill just buy one for sub-50 bucks lol so many choices
[07:16:12] <XXCoder> i5 is sub-$300 which is cheap enough also
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[07:17:07] <XXCoder> i3 is strangely more expensive.
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[07:32:58] <Jymmmmmm> XXCoder: hang on...
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[07:36:53] <XXCoder> Jymmmmmm: ok but not for long
[07:37:01] <Jymmmmmm> XXCoder: This was very nice https://www.bestbuy.com
[07:37:30] <Jymmmmmm> celeron, but still very nice performance wise, even when playing videos
[07:37:38] <XXCoder> not too bad
[07:37:46] <XXCoder> saw some of those for sub 100 on ebay
[07:38:18] <Jymmmmmm> I was VERY impressed with it, and if you knew me, you know that I'm not easily impressed with things.
[07:39:38] <Jymmmmmm> XXCoder: And it has pretty good reviews too
[07:40:21] <XXCoder> i geuss theres guides to put linux on it
[07:40:52] <Jymmmmmm> True, but there is an option to enable linux on it already
[07:41:05] <Jymmmmmm> within the "developer tools" iirc
[07:41:38] <Jymmmmmm> it's not ubuntu, etc but does give you shell
[07:41:59] <XXCoder> hmm ok
[07:42:07] <XXCoder> its probably good enough for irc and such
[07:42:44] <Jymmmmmm> Yeah, if worse case, you can always restore the system back to factory
[07:43:11] <Jymmmmmm> there is a USB image you can download as well in case you REALLY fuck it up =)
[07:44:10] <XXCoder> lol ok
[07:44:41] <Jymmmmmm> It's on asus website fyi
[07:45:50] <Jymmmmmm> I was extremely disappointed int ehvery first chromebook I played with, that one I was impressed with though. Changed my perspective of chromeOS
[07:47:02] <XXCoder> ya chromebooks werent too impressive at start
[07:47:43] <Jymmmmmm> Well, I'm talking about a year prior, not the VERY FIRST ones.
[07:50:29] <XXCoder> lol ok got that impression when you said at start :)
[07:55:01] <Jymmmmmm> Doing SysAdmin for so many years, I came across a LOT of crappy hardware/systems, and drove off a LOT of salesmen from big ass sales contracts =)
[07:56:32] <XXCoder> thats good :)
[07:56:47] <XXCoder> I gather you dont have PHB
[07:56:57] <Jymmmmmm> PHB??
[07:57:06] <XXCoder> pointy haired boss
[07:57:47] <Jymmmmmm> nah
[07:58:00] <XXCoder> nice
[07:58:12] <Jymmmmmm> no sticks up butts tyvm
[07:58:29] <XXCoder> SUBs
[07:58:35] <Jymmmmmm> lmao
[07:58:45] <XXCoder> SUB subs :P
[07:59:04] <Jymmmmmm> nope, just wouldn't get along with those types in the least.
[08:00:10] <XXCoder> :)
[08:01:15] <Jymmmmmm> Had one CEO that thought his was the best way of doing things.... Wanted a $500K video conferencing system, we (the IT) said fuck that, and put up a $40K one instead =)
[08:01:37] <XXCoder> nd bought few new cars? lol
[08:01:38] <Jymmmmmm> and it was better then what he wanted
[08:02:14] <Jymmmmmm> Nah, but did get a couple nice toys to "evaluate" ;)
[08:02:18] <XXCoder> lol ok
[08:03:29] <Jymmmmmm> I'm liking Ubuntu Mate, couple little things I have to tweek, but that's preferences mostly.
[08:05:16] <Jymmmmmm> think I found one tiny bug, haven't researched that yet, but sure beats standard ubuntu.
[08:06:27] <XXCoder> nice. been using xfce mint for few years
[08:06:38] <XXCoder> what does mate change compared to stock ubuntu
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[08:16:06] <beachbumpete1> Morning :)
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[08:44:21] <jdh> I want to measure voltage on my tig PS into a load bank. will it toast my shiny new fluke if I just read directly fromthe terminals?
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[08:50:32] <pcw_home> If it has HF start your Fluke will be landfill
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[10:11:19] <alex_joni> jdh: put it to non-HF mode first
[10:11:38] <alex_joni> most TIG machines have electrode mode, where they surely have no HF
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[10:22:05] <Deejay> re
[10:39:49] <skunkworks> https://www.youtube.com
[10:44:43] <skunkworks> alex_joni: ! hi! kids are 6 and 3... Time is flying
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[10:53:25] <{HD}> Anyone rocking fusion 360? I cannot import a sketch to scale for the life of me. I have a part that is completly flat so I scanned it on a bed scanner. I have turned that into a svg, dxf, pdf, tif, jpg and everyone I import into fusion is a different size.
[10:56:08] <HighInBC> it has been a while
[10:56:15] <HighInBC> but you want to import it first, then calibrate the size
[10:58:12] <HighInBC> I forgot the exact command but you don't do it at the time of importing, rather through a size constraint in the sketch itself
[10:58:47] <HighInBC> this covers it https://www.linkedin.com
[10:59:11] <HighInBC> ah right click on sketch, select "calibrate"
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[11:11:51] <alex_joni> skunkworks: 9 here ;)
[11:16:39] <{HD}> HighInBC: but why can I just import to scale? A tif, pdf, svg all have accurate size data so just use that.
[11:17:39] <HighInBC> {HD}: I can't tell you why they did it that way
[11:17:42] <HighInBC> but that is how you do it
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[11:17:56] <{HD}> wack. okay I will give it a shot
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[11:17:59] <HighInBC> just calibrate off a known point
[11:18:12] <HighInBC> I think they do it that way so you can handle hand drawn stuff
[11:18:26] <gregcnc> can't you just set it 1:1?
[11:18:42] <gregcnc> or 100%
[11:19:24] <{HD}> gregcnc: I would like to. I don't see an option for that.
[11:20:52] <{HD}> https://i.imgur.com
[11:21:04] <{HD}> Those are my “attach canvas” options
[11:21:28] <HighInBC> did you look at the video I linked?
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[11:21:43] <HighInBC> attach the canvas first
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[11:21:49] <HighInBC> then right click on it in the menu to the left
[11:21:53] <HighInBC> select calibrate
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[11:23:06] <{HD}> Yea, I saw that and I can do that. But, seems silly if I have already taken the time to do a scale drawing to have to.
[11:23:42] <HighInBC> it is not the only odd work flow in fusion 360
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[11:24:03] <HighInBC> I think it wants a separate action for the timeline for ease of editing late
[11:24:04] <HighInBC> r
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[11:29:42] <gregcnc> yeah, ridiculous it scales to the face you select initally
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[12:00:30] <MarkusBec> pcw_home: are you around?
[12:06:19] <pcw_home> yep
[12:06:54] <MarkusBec> i have a problem
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[12:07:18] <pcw_home> bye
[12:07:38] <JT-Shop> lol
[12:08:05] <MarkusBec> i want to use a 7i96 with a 7I85S and pkt uart
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[12:08:25] <pcw_home> OK...
[12:08:56] <MarkusBec> i tryed to build a firmware with ise but even can not build a default config
[12:10:20] <pcw_home> what error do you get?
[12:11:52] <pcw_home> (also be sure to fetch the source _now_ as I've just recently fixed some missing sources in the project files)
[12:14:20] <MarkusBec> it can not finde the file for the card
[12:14:46] <MarkusBec> i used the download zip
[12:15:04] <pcw_home> which zip?
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[12:16:44] <MarkusBec> http://www.mesanet.com
[12:22:40] <MarkusBec> maybe i just doing it wrong but its hard to find informations
[12:22:56] <pcw_home> let me try... hmm builds for me with the current source
[12:25:49] <pcw_home> what actual error do you get?
[12:26:32] <pcw_home> (also I just updated a couple of days ago so make sure you re-fetch)
[12:28:43] <pcw_home> (just built 7i96D.bit using ISE 14.7, seveni96.xise, PIN_7I96D_51.vhd, i96_x9card)
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[12:34:06] <MarkusBec> ok i will try that
[12:34:30] <MarkusBec> were can i find the new version
[12:35:06] <pcw_home> ( the project file is from ISE 13.3 so ISE14.7 will ask you to migrate ( say yes ))
[12:35:35] <pcw_home> any version 13.3 or > should be OK
[12:36:50] <pcw_home> really old versions ( like 9.x used for our old Spartan2 stuff ) will not work since they don't support Spartan6
[12:37:23] <pcw_home> 14.7 is a free (though huge) download from Xilinx
[12:37:36] <pcw_home> and requires registration
[12:45:34] <MarkusBec> yes i have 14.7
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[13:16:34] <MarkusBec> pcw_home: Where can i download the new version
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[14:10:02] <jdh> my fluke survived. load bank cal doesn't do HF
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[14:26:12] <gloops> https://www.ebay.co.uk
[14:26:19] <gloops> this has to be a con
[14:26:41] <gloops> ahh no..lol
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[14:47:51] <jthornton> pretty cheap
[14:51:04] <gloops> i thought the whole thing was £12.50 lol
[14:55:12] <jthornton> is it just the chuck?
[14:55:19] <fragalot> driver
[14:56:32] <jthornton> Note : This listing include the rotary axis +tailstock+stepper drive,rotary axis +tailstock ,rotary axis only,tailstock only,stepper drive only, please select the correct one you need.
[14:57:28] <jthornton> ah I see you have to 'select' something above the quantity
[15:00:33] <fragalot> yup
[15:00:39] <fragalot> hate it when sellers do that
[15:00:49] <jthornton> that is confusing for sure
[15:00:51] <fragalot> reel you in with the cheapest item possible, and every other option is 10x the price
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[15:03:06] <rmu> the default price is just empty package and shipping?
[15:04:20] <CaptHindsight> disingenuous article or company? https://static01.nyt.com
[15:04:30] <CaptHindsight> https://mashable.com
[15:05:17] <fragalot> why not both?
[15:05:34] <sensille> Loetmichel: do you add anything to the cooling water for the spindle?
[15:05:52] <CaptHindsight> avg 5 minutes to make that screw?
[15:05:55] <Loetmichel> sensille: ~50% IPA
[15:06:13] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: you don't know what tolerance specs are on that screw
[15:06:20] <Loetmichel> but aluminium car radiator fluid works, too
[15:06:52] <sensille> the water circulating in the spindle?
[15:07:02] <sensille> what, 50%?
[15:07:47] <CaptHindsight> fragalot: it was probably the security feature in the head
[15:08:19] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: 3D adaptive toolpaths to the rescue!
[15:08:23] <CaptHindsight> 11 sided left handed polygon
[15:09:41] <CaptHindsight> pretty much debunked in the Slashdot comments https://apple.slashdot.org
[15:11:03] <sensille> Loetmichel: i thought i might have to add some anti-corrisive, at most
[15:11:29] <Loetmichel> nope, just something to prevent a biofilm from growing
[15:11:37] <CaptHindsight> sensille: use DI water not tap water
[15:11:43] <Loetmichel> it clogs up the spindle pretty quick
[15:12:43] <Loetmichel> CaptHindsight: unless sensille: lives in a place where the water crumbles out of the tap he can use tap water
[15:12:49] <fragalot> speaking of biofilms
[15:12:57] <Loetmichel> a bit of calcium isnt going to do much
[15:13:02] <fragalot> anyone got some suggestions on dealing with that?
[15:13:28] <Loetmichel> but honestly: if you are worried about corrosion: use a 50;50 mix of car radiator fluid for aluminium blocks and water
[15:13:37] <CaptHindsight> fragalot: what are you trying to grow?
[15:13:38] <fragalot> the schaublin has a leaky gearbox when running, which drips directly into the coolant tank, and there's a lot of little tiny critters that appear to LOVE that emulsion
[15:13:39] <sensille> now i frightened i already ruined something
[15:14:12] <Loetmichel> it has corrosion inhibiotors of the right kind, its properly poisonus to microorganisms AND also prevents freezing ;)
[15:14:13] <fragalot> "Ah, there's the problem. If they wanted to receive screws, they were supposed to buy them from RX, not TX."
[15:14:16] <fragalot> ha
[15:15:01] <sensille> Loetmichel: i wasn't really worried yet, whatever you do is probably the right thing :)
[15:15:08] <Loetmichel> sensille: takes a week or so to grow that biofilm
[15:15:12] <Loetmichel> not to be worried
[15:15:17] <sensille> but isn't IPA expensive?
[15:15:26] <sensille> like 5L of it
[15:15:28] <fragalot> not if you buy in bulk
[15:15:33] <Loetmichel> and if you have a clogged spindle already: 8 bvar compressed air takes usually care of that
[15:15:36] * fragalot buys it in 24 bottles of 1l
[15:15:44] <Loetmichel> just wear eye protaction, its a MESS ;)
[15:16:00] <Loetmichel> sensille: define "expensive"
[15:16:05] <rmu> IPA is a fire hazard
[15:16:08] <Loetmichel> i pay about 8 eur per liter
[15:16:21] <fragalot> Loetmichel: that's a lot
[15:16:38] <Loetmichel> rmu: so are many things. your point being?
[15:16:43] <sensille> and you put 5l in the bucket, with 5l water?
[15:16:48] <sensille> and change how often?
[15:17:06] <Loetmichel> its only a 5 liter bucket. so 2,5l and 2,5 liter
[15:17:15] <Loetmichel> and usually a few drops of water colour
[15:17:20] <rmu> it can explode. vapor pressure would be quite high when cooling a spindle. i would use something like antifreeze
[15:17:20] <Loetmichel> so i see leaks early
[15:17:38] <sensille> rmu: even in a 50:50 mix?
[15:17:46] <Loetmichel> rmu: man, i cool the workpiece with pire IPA
[15:17:47] <Loetmichel> pure
[15:17:52] <fragalot> Loetmichel: I buy it here. https://www.deoplosmiddelspecialist.nl
[15:17:59] <Loetmichel> it doesent ignite that easily
[15:18:15] <sensille> ok, 10l for 26 euro. i'd expected it to be far more expensive
[15:18:21] <Loetmichel> especially not in a 50% mix with water in a CLOSED spindle coolant system
[15:18:27] <rmu> Loetmichel: as long as nobody knows ans nothing happens it is ok
[15:18:58] <sensille> Loetmichel: and how often do you change it?
[15:19:13] <Loetmichel> rmu: the only way to ignite it is to have pretty substantial sparks when the "flower pump" mists it onto the workpiece
[15:19:43] <CaptHindsight> nah stream water from the Rockies, glycol from your e-cigs and rubbing alcohol from your masseuses
[15:19:44] <Loetmichel> i toired, you cant even ignite it with a lit cigarette: if you spray the pure alcohol at the glowing tip it just douses it
[15:19:53] <Loetmichel> sensille: about every year or so
[15:20:13] <sensille> ok, that's not expensive than. i just let my wife buy it :)
[15:20:24] <Loetmichel> but as i said: last time i used Aluminium block radiator fluid. works even better and is less expensive
[15:20:50] <rmu> Loetmichel: you can ignite the vapors quite easily, a spark from static electricity is suffdicient
[15:21:02] <rmu> esp bad if you are machining thermoplastics
[15:21:08] <Loetmichel> yes, an electric spark is hot enought
[15:21:10] <Loetmichel> -t
[15:21:11] <CaptHindsight> sure sound s lot like antifreeze/collant
[15:21:15] <Loetmichel> a cigarette isnt
[15:21:34] <Loetmichel> CaptHindsight: indeed, the car radiater stuff
[15:21:59] <Loetmichel> but the one thats meant for aluminium blocks (red here in germany), not the stuff for steel blocks (green)
[15:22:01] <sensille> loetmichel: like that? https://www.amazon.de
[15:22:19] <Loetmichel> sensille: yes
[15:22:19] <CaptHindsight> ethylene glycol vs propylene glycol
[15:22:35] <sensille> also 50:50?
[15:22:43] <Loetmichel> but 1-2 liters are enough for a 5 liter canister of cooling fluid
[15:22:56] <sensille> ok, thanks
[15:23:15] <Loetmichel> its just for corrosion inhibition and make it poisonus for the microorganisms
[15:23:27] * fragalot is wondering if adding a fish tank bubbler to his coolant tank would help
[15:23:57] <Loetmichel> fragalot: to get rid of anything that is edible in your coolant tank: yes ;)
[15:24:13] <CaptHindsight> Anna Robic bacteria
[15:24:15] <Loetmichel> to get rid of the "foul smelling bacteria: probably lont ;)
[15:24:15] <rmu> in theory, depending on concentration, your spindle would need atex-label and be explosion proof to be cooled with IPA ;)
[15:24:26] <Loetmichel> not
[15:24:43] <fragalot> Loetmichel: it's not smelling bad, it's just blooming atm :P
[15:24:49] <Loetmichel> rmu: as said above: the spindles are closed loop
[15:25:13] <Loetmichel> so there is no ignition source inside the coolant, also not enough oxygen to burn
[15:25:33] <Loetmichel> or should i say: "semi closed loop"
[15:25:51] <rmu> but it could leak
[15:26:16] <sensille> but ... 50:50?
[15:26:18] <Loetmichel> https://www.youtube.com <- thats my setup at home. the one at the company is quite similar
[15:26:24] <rmu> just saying. everybody is old enough to make their own bad decisions ;)
[15:26:29] <Loetmichel> thats why i put red paint in it
[15:26:33] <sensille> make it 40:60, and it won't burn
[15:26:35] <Loetmichel> red dye
[15:26:40] <Loetmichel> so i see if it leaks
[15:26:56] <Loetmichel> also the IPA will just evaporate if the leak is small
[15:26:57] <rmu> lower explosion limit is 2% vapor @ 10°C or so
[15:27:16] <Loetmichel> and if its large you have other problems than fire
[15:27:31] <Loetmichel> its also only 50% mixed with water and wouldnt ignite even with a flame
[15:27:34] <Loetmichel> i tried
[15:27:51] <Loetmichel> its a workshop. not an enclosed space
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[15:28:08] <Loetmichel> NO chance to get to 2% vapor in the air
[15:28:11] <rmu> Loetmichel: ever seen a dust explosion?
[15:28:19] <Loetmichel> rmu: yes.
[15:28:33] <Loetmichel> and it doesent happen under normal circumstances
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[15:28:45] <rmu> the 2% need to be locally where the spark is. a few g are sufficient to cause trouble
[15:29:09] <Loetmichel> you have to ACTIVELY get the dust into the air, have an ENCLOSED VOLUME whre it cant escape AND a sufficient source of ignition
[15:29:24] <rmu> i managed to make a whole workbench "explode" with a spark from unplugging a (spinning) motor
[15:29:48] <rmu> small ipa explosion -> disturbs/agitates dust -> dust explodes
[15:29:58] <Loetmichel> rmu: i give up. play the safety sally all you want, i cant be bothered to argue with THAT much fear.
[15:30:30] <rmu> that has nothing to do with fear
[15:30:42] <fragalot> Loetmichel: you do not need an enclosed volume for a dust explosion
[15:30:55] <rmu> esp. if antifree works perfectly fine and is MUCH less of a fire and explosion hazard
[15:31:46] <rmu> https://www.youtube.com
[15:31:53] <CaptHindsight> what if you like danger?
[15:32:20] <Loetmichel> fragalot: you need a dense enough mix.
[15:32:38] <Loetmichel> in a not enclosed volume thats pretty unlikely to happen
[15:32:44] <sensille> i go for antifreeze :)
[15:32:54] <Loetmichel> and even then its no explosion, just a deflagration
[15:33:02] <Loetmichel> flame speed isnt high enough
[15:33:09] <fragalot> either way not pleasant :µP
[15:33:11] <Loetmichel> to qualify
[15:33:18] <CaptHindsight> danger --> fear --> adrenaline --> alertness --> productivity
[15:33:32] <rmu> if you like danger you should take "ether" (ch3-0-ch3)
[15:33:44] <sensille> CaptHindsight: :)
[15:33:59] <Loetmichel> sawdust "explosions" are unpleasant with normal workshop amounts and expensive because you may need new window glasses. thats about it
[15:34:20] <Loetmichel> been there saw that got the signed hair smell ;)
[15:35:02] <Loetmichel> same with ethanol or IPA vapors
[15:35:14] <CaptHindsight> productivity --> higher income --> more disposable income --> beer
[15:35:16] <Loetmichel> they just cant accumulate to 2% and above
[15:35:22] <rmu> don't forget new eardrums and hair/beard extensions for the workers
[15:35:30] <Loetmichel> in a normal workshop enviroment
[15:35:56] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: the trick is finding the right balance between being productive & dangerous.
[15:36:08] <Loetmichel> THAT said: cooling aluminium with pure IPA while milling can make the shopvac used for swarf extraction into a veritable flamethrower.
[15:36:26] <Loetmichel> not that dangerous but it DID get the adrenaline flowing
[15:36:30] <rmu> *lol*
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[15:36:52] <gloops> productivity = stress = blocked arteries = stroke = no picking your own nose
[15:37:06] <rmu> that depends. if it starts spitting out burning sawdust it might be quite a firestarter
[15:37:17] <Loetmichel> rmu: it cant
[15:37:33] <Loetmichel> there is no sawdust in the motor or in the exhaust port
[15:37:47] <Loetmichel> thats what the filter bags are for
[15:38:07] <rmu> yeah, if you burn them, dust will come out
[15:38:17] <rmu> (burn the filter bags)
[15:38:32] <CaptHindsight> https://upload.wikimedia.org don't let this happen to you
[15:38:40] <Loetmichel> it just sucked up enough IPA into the filled bag that the air drawn trhu it was 2% or more so it ignited on the motor brushes and blasted out a veritable blue flame
[15:38:57] <Loetmichel> the moent i cut the power it extinguished itself
[15:39:19] <Loetmichel> moment
[15:39:41] <Loetmichel> as i said: quite the fireworks but not really hot enough to do any real damage
[15:39:59] <Loetmichel> just a few singed arm hairs when i reached for the switch ;)
[15:40:32] <rmu> explosion proofing stuff is no joke. if something can build dangerous atmosphere it will happen sooner or later somewhere. just like race condition bugs
[15:40:58] <Loetmichel> usually later rather than sooner
[15:41:00] <fragalot> rmu: I had a brilliant bug saturday
[15:41:02] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com started by a cnc router
[15:41:09] <CaptHindsight> rumor has it
[15:41:21] <rmu> fragalot: a ladybug?
[15:41:29] <fragalot> windows locked my .elf file, and the compiler pretended everything was fine & the file was updated
[15:41:32] <fragalot> yet it wasn't
[15:41:39] <fragalot> and I spent freaking HOURS figuring out what the hell was going on
[15:41:46] <Loetmichel> CaptHindsight: if you say so.... ;)
[15:41:58] <fragalot> "screw it. time for make clean... What do you mean you can't delete that file?"
[15:42:18] <Loetmichel> fragalot: hihi
[15:42:32] <Loetmichel> its even better when you cant find who locked it ;)
[15:42:54] <fragalot> I couldn't. just unlocked it & deleted it
[15:42:54] <rmu> fragalot: don't let windows touch your files
[15:42:59] <Jymmm> Welcome to microsoft =)
[15:43:06] <fragalot> Jymmm: indeed. :-)
[15:43:19] <Loetmichel> fragalot: sometimes you cant unlock it
[15:43:26] <Loetmichel> if some system service locked it
[15:43:30] <Loetmichel> been there
[15:43:33] <Jymmm> safemode
[15:43:43] <rmu> everything windows can be unlocked with a plasma torch and a sledge hammer
[15:43:49] <Loetmichel> had to boot a live linux to delete the file ;)
[15:44:12] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: safemode "should" work
[15:44:36] <Loetmichel> Jymmm: nope. not even the winPE from the setup disk did
[15:44:42] <CaptHindsight> semisafe mode
[15:44:47] <Jymmm> lo But, I can tell you how to fuck up windows deleteing a single file =)
[15:44:50] <Loetmichel> whatever locked that file it was pretty hardcore
[15:45:13] <CaptHindsight> windows on virtual hardware with a RAM drive
[15:45:14] <fragalot> Loetmichel: hurr, yeah
[15:45:20] <Loetmichel> linux had no problems though ;)
[15:45:24] <fragalot> Loetmichel: have you ever created a file called "null" on windows?
[15:45:27] <fragalot> or "prn"
[15:45:32] <Loetmichel> not a good idea
[15:45:34] <fragalot> if not, try it
[15:45:35] <fragalot> :D
[15:45:42] <Loetmichel> try one with two :: in its name
[15:45:46] <Loetmichel> also very funny
[15:46:58] <rmu> these https://en.wikipedia.org(ADS) are evil.
[15:47:08] <rmu> you can even make them "anonymous"
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[15:53:09] <CaptHindsight> fragalot: I've been using this the past few years without issue https://www.koolrite.com
[15:54:37] <fragalot> measured by the number of colonies per milliliter.. well there's one colony
[15:54:51] <fragalot> you can stick a spoon upright in it and it 'l stay :P
[15:58:12] <rmu> fragalot: you sure it is caused by bacteria?
[15:58:47] <rmu> could be your emulsion koagulated
[16:00:23] <MarcelineVQ> This page isn't very accurate about microbes hehe
[16:01:56] <CaptHindsight> I got 5 gallons (20L) for free
[16:02:45] <CaptHindsight> makes like 300L
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[16:04:53] <fragalot> rmu: That is also entirely possible.
[16:05:30] <fragalot> I could incubate swabs to find out... but eh. I'll just clean it out regularly
[16:06:01] <Tom_itx> aww c'mon...
[16:06:07] <Tom_itx> do the test
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[16:18:17] <CaptHindsight> http://mwfmag.com
[16:22:08] <CaptHindsight> anyone else getting those "I hacked your email so send money" written in broken English, Chinese etc?
[16:22:20] <fragalot> they are intentionally poorly written
[16:22:36] <fragalot> it's a method to filter out who responds to increase their chances of success
[16:23:22] <CaptHindsight> seems to be the most persistent spam i recall
[16:24:23] <XXCoder> got 2 of em so far
[16:24:26] <CaptHindsight> i kepp ending them bitcoins but it doesn't stop :)
[16:24:42] <XXCoder> their hacking skills is so good they took pictures of me with no webcam.
[16:24:54] <CaptHindsight> you too!
[16:25:16] <CaptHindsight> man these guys are good
[16:26:04] <fragalot> just send them a picture back of themselves
[16:26:37] <XXCoder> nah just goatse.cx picture
[16:26:53] <XXCoder> they hack my email I hack their brain
[16:26:54] <andypugh> Well, I do have a web cam, but the field fo view is such that they wouldn’t be able to see what I was up to. ANd lots of normal folk wear a gimp suit and ball gag when coding, don’t they?
[16:27:11] <CaptHindsight> sure sure
[16:27:13] <fragalot> always
[16:27:23] <fragalot> we've got one on order for the new guy too
[16:27:33] <fragalot> but he has to earn the talcum powder
[16:30:38] <CaptHindsight> -33C the next couple nights
[16:30:43] <fragalot> nice
[16:30:59] <fragalot> our weather report is similar, but without the stutter
[16:31:25] <CaptHindsight> I think the high Wednesday or Thursday is -25C
[16:31:47] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: where?
[16:32:02] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: around Chicago
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[16:32:39] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Oh, I thought in your area
[16:32:54] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: yes
[16:33:05] <CaptHindsight> I'm a bit west so even colder here
[16:33:18] <XXCoder> im futher west and warmer
[16:33:23] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: I thought you were in florida?
[16:33:31] <Tom_itx> he wishes
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[16:34:00] <Tom_L> coolin off here too but not that much
[16:34:03] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: no, I'm not a fan of trailer life
[16:34:54] <CaptHindsight> latest -30F, -35C
[16:35:55] <CaptHindsight> https://pbs.twimg.com
[16:36:41] <XXCoder> capt florida is huge, i'm sure there is few actual houses
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[16:37:30] <CaptHindsight> Fla is too humid
[16:37:46] <CaptHindsight> I don't mind hot and dry
[16:37:59] <Jymmm> Mojave Desert
[16:38:19] <CaptHindsight> as long as there is internet
[16:38:20] <XXCoder> i do mind the heat lol thats why i dont live at southern states
[16:38:37] <Tom_L> is chicago typically dry?
[16:38:59] <Tom_L> probably get alot of humidity off the lakes
[16:39:24] <CaptHindsight> Tom_L: I'd say it's more no spring or fall, we go from 80's and humid to 20's and wind
[16:40:16] <CaptHindsight> Tom_L: lake effect snows, the lake actually helps cool in the summer, but you have to be close to the shores
[16:40:59] <XXCoder> wow. no stabilization there eh
[16:41:17] <XXCoder> here we have huge effect from ocean so temperates is pretty stable
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[16:41:40] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: the east side of the great lakes gets way more snow
[16:43:08] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: https://www.youtube.com 2 years ago
[16:43:20] <XXCoder> lol
[16:43:34] <XXCoder> is that the wall? ;)
[16:44:36] <Deejay> gn8
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[16:45:28] <CaptHindsight> Tom_L: I kind of liked your weather, that constant breeze can be nice
[16:46:15] <CaptHindsight> Tom_L: is there a time of year when the wind is calm?
[16:46:47] <Tom_L> not really
[16:46:59] <Tom_L> it's calm some days but can change over night
[16:47:03] <XXCoder> constant breeze = constant power
[16:47:16] <Tom_L> that's why we have so many windmills here now
[16:48:12] <Tom_L> generally if it's windy from the south this time of year for a day or so you can count on it getting cold and the wind shifting from the north
[16:48:31] <Tom_L> today is a good example
[16:48:58] <CaptHindsight> Tom_L: look at the pressure shift https://www.wunderground.com
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[16:49:35] <CaptHindsight> did your ears pop?
[16:50:03] <Tom_L> not generally but i do feel the pressure on my head
[16:50:15] <Tom_L> had a good headache last night
[16:50:25] <CaptHindsight> that was in 1 hour
[16:51:44] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: how often do you get snow?
[16:52:05] <XXCoder> 2 times a year typical. typically both times snow dont like ground
[16:52:50] <Tom_L> on a good day we'll get 40mph sustained winds
[16:53:04] <XXCoder> looks like none this year though, but same time we had snow as late as march
[16:53:08] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: how far inland are you?
[16:53:21] <XXCoder> not very if you count inlet sea lol
[16:53:56] <XXCoder> seattle, tacoma region gets wind from ocean so it fairly stabilizes temperates
[16:54:05] <CaptHindsight> Tom_L: does it ever feel muggy there?
[16:54:08] <XXCoder> only rarely do temperate go below 30f
[16:54:55] <roycroft> we don't do muggy much around here
[16:55:09] <Tom_L> not generally
[16:55:13] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: I've flown in and out of SETAC so many times and have never see anything but grey clouds and then suddenly a rainy runway
[16:55:17] <roycroft> the pacific northwet is unlike most of the country - we're wet and cool in the winter, warm/hot and dry in the summer
[16:55:33] <roycroft> woodworkers i know back east don't understand it
[16:55:49] <roycroft> their stuff all shrinks in the winter and swells up in the summer
[16:55:53] <Tom_L> at least compared to Ga or Fl
[16:55:56] <roycroft> it's the exact opposite here
[16:56:35] <CaptHindsight> roycroft: summer are dry?
[16:56:43] <XXCoder> tend to be yeah
[16:57:14] <CaptHindsight> whats the avg temp in summer?
[16:57:30] <XXCoder> 80s typically, [eak of 90s for month
[16:57:40] <XXCoder> rarely over 100
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[16:58:30] <CaptHindsight> same here, but humid
[16:59:03] <CaptHindsight> then why do I only see rain, just lucky?
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[16:59:49] <XXCoder> seattle without clouds is like clown without makeup
[17:00:15] <XXCoder> though climate change is changing things, it used to be cloudy even in summers sometimes, but now..
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[17:09:15] <Tom_L> we used to get alot more snow than we do now
[17:11:07] <CaptHindsight> my preference would be for cool and dry, but there's not many options
[17:13:22] <CaptHindsight> best so far is just move twice a year
[17:13:40] <Tom_L> average wind speed for Ks is 12.6 mph
[17:14:51] <CaptHindsight> Tom_L: are you officially in Tornado alley?
[17:15:05] <Tom_L> officially yes
[17:15:19] <Tom_L> google andover tornado and greensburg
[17:15:41] <Tom_L> 2 record holders i believe
[17:15:50] <CaptHindsight> https://accuweather.brightspotcdn.com
[17:16:13] <Tom_L> not as bad as it sounds
[17:16:20] <CaptHindsight> F5's
[17:16:23] <Tom_L> good thing about Ks is you can see them coming
[17:16:29] <Tom_L> unlike Mo etc
[17:17:29] <Tom_L> iirc the andover one was on the ground something like 45 min
[17:17:38] <CaptHindsight> https://www.kansas.com
[17:18:33] <Tom_L> clipped boeing which is on the S end of wichita
[17:18:41] <Tom_L> started in haysville i think
[17:18:48] <Tom_L> also S of town
[17:19:19] <CaptHindsight> yards away https://youtu.be
[17:19:46] <Tom_L> the greensburg one was something like 1.7 mi wide
[17:21:36] <CaptHindsight> I've been through two small tornadoes, Cat 1
[17:22:47] <CaptHindsight> F1
[17:22:52] <Tom_L> i've been told by unofficial sources they tend to cycle every 7 years
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[17:24:59] <Tom_L> https://www.youtube.com
[17:25:25] <Tom_L> can't see alot since it was at night
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[17:37:41] <CaptHindsight> i was machining one day on the Matsuura and I heard a funny rumble so I stopped the machine thinking there was something wrong with the spindle motor..
[17:39:02] <CaptHindsight> when it stopped there was still a rumble, so i opened the door to see outside just as it passed nearby, green water sideways and instantly soaked
[17:39:16] <Tom_L> oddly enough the only tornado i was in was when i was a kid at my grandparents in Nebraska
[17:41:27] <CaptHindsight> https://postimg.cc
[17:41:28] <jthornton> this motherboard gets bad reviews but I have one that works fine https://www.amazon.com
[17:41:58] <CaptHindsight> ^^ after it passed by
[17:42:01] <jthornton> looking for another micro itx with dual ethernet ports for uspace on the BP mill
[17:46:02] <CaptHindsight> jthornton: mini-itx or micro-atx?
[17:46:13] <jthornton> mini itx
[17:47:33] <jthornton> I have a case and power supply that used to have a hmmm I forget the motherboard so looking to build a new pc for the BP, all the motherboards I have laying around have issues
[18:07:56] <CaptHindsight> https://www.microcenter.com
[18:09:56] <CaptHindsight> https://www.newegg.com
[18:11:25] <jthornton> I think I'll get another gigabyte like the other one for $69, thanks for looking
[18:11:53] <jthornton> not seen the micro center before
[18:12:18] <CaptHindsight> they price match to newegg
[18:12:26] <CaptHindsight> I have 2 stores local
[18:12:30] <CaptHindsight> comesin handy
[18:12:40] <gregcnc> no school today, they are saying no school wednesday
[18:12:46] <jthornton> lucky you, we have nothing like that here
[18:12:52] <CaptHindsight> https://www.newegg.com
[18:12:58] <jthornton> newegg was not so cheap today
[18:13:16] <CaptHindsight> gregcnc: latest report has us at -28F wednesday night
[18:13:23] <gregcnc> yeah
[18:13:42] <gregcnc> thursday will not be much better
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[18:14:13] <CaptHindsight> jthornton: all I could find quickly, the search functions are getting worse
[18:14:32] <jthornton> yea I know
[18:15:15] <jthornton> anyway I've gone with what I know works... now if I can find pciex16 video cards I have two motherboards that might work as well lol
[18:15:23] <CaptHindsight> jthornton: I have several Gigabyte boards here but I stopped buying them
[18:15:35] <jthornton> why
[18:15:36] <ziper> how prevalent were duplicating machines prior to the invention of CNC?
[18:16:00] <CaptHindsight> jthornton: got too flaky, bad bios or too sensitive USB ports
[18:16:16] <jthornton> hmm I've not had any problems with them
[18:16:36] <jthornton> ziper: it's been so long ago I have forgotten
[18:17:24] <CaptHindsight> jthornton: prefer Asus over GB over Asrock over Biostar over
[18:17:53] <jthornton> I like Asus too and have a few running now
[18:18:32] <CaptHindsight> weak link lately has been power supplies
[18:19:17] <CaptHindsight> been moving to name brand supplies vs any "specials" at Microcenter
[18:19:26] <gregcnc> lol re spam email. I got one that said "hi perv, i recorded you masturbating....."
[18:20:11] <jthornton> did you get a chance to try out the QtPyVCP tutorial?
[18:20:20] <jthornton> I got one of those too lol
[18:21:02] <andypugh> Reading back through the weather…. The UK has a really benign climate. Especially when you consider where we are.
[18:21:59] <Tom_L> what... no tornados?
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[18:22:42] <andypugh> The northern most tip of is at the same latitude as Nunavut
[18:23:32] <rmu> take away the gulfstream and uk will turn into north norway
[18:24:08] <andypugh> Well, south Norway, because Norway will turn into Greenalnd
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[18:24:33] <rmu> no more fjords
[18:26:05] <andypugh> Talking of such things, this is fascinating: https://thetruesize.com!MTcyMTE5MTE.MzEyODAxNA*MjMxMDM5MzA(Mjk3MzA4ODM~!CONTIGUOUS_US*MTAzNDY5MzM.MjQ4NjcwMzA)Mw
[18:26:31] <andypugh> That’s the USA dragged on to Africa
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[18:27:13] <andypugh> Dragging Brazil around is interesting too, it’s huge
[18:27:35] <CaptHindsight> gregcnc: I get those in Chinese as well
[18:28:29] <rmu> brazil is about the same size as USA IIRC
[18:28:33] <andypugh> Whereas Iceland is actually about as big as Pennsylvania
[18:29:02] <andypugh> And Greenland shrinks an awful lot if you drag it south
[18:29:12] <rmu> mercator projection
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[18:30:34] <CaptHindsight> Canada can stretch from Canada to North Africa
[18:30:44] <Jymmm> no it cant
[18:30:53] <CaptHindsight> can too
[18:30:57] <Jymmm> can not
[18:31:01] <Jymmm> wally wall
[18:32:10] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com - related
[18:32:16] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com What fits into Mother Russia
[18:32:20] <SpeedEvil> Map projection / west wing
[18:33:43] <andypugh> No, it’s true, you can drag Canada to a position where it touches Africa and Canada. It’s not quite as big as it appears on the Mercator projection, but it’s still quite big. And wide
[18:34:33] <andypugh> Trumps Canadian wall would be very expensive. Might be cheaper to give them Alaska instead.
[18:34:45] <jdh> it was pretty cheap
[18:34:48] <rmu> lol
[18:35:05] <rmu> the question is
[18:35:10] <rmu> the wall to canada
[18:35:23] <rmu> will it be there to keep the canadians out or the us-americans in ;)
[18:36:08] <andypugh> Well, they do have cheap servo drives, I can see the atraction.
[18:36:49] <CaptHindsight> we could run a shuttle from Texas border to Canada
[18:37:31] <CaptHindsight> the central uhmericans could settle the vast pastures of central Canada
[18:38:12] <CaptHindsight> last i checked you could immigrate to Canada IF you farm and settle that area
[18:38:16] <andypugh> Well, they are certainly vast
[18:38:47] <andypugh> I am not sure how fertile.
[18:39:22] <CaptHindsight> oops https://www.immigration.ca
[18:39:27] <CaptHindsight> too late
[18:39:44] <andypugh> Darn it! I was tempted to take up snow-man mining
[18:41:02] <andypugh> Elizabeth 2 is still Queen of an astonishingly large area of the world.
[18:41:37] <CaptHindsight> https://form.immigration.ca
[18:42:43] <CaptHindsight> https://www.saskatchewan.ca
[18:44:00] <rmu> thats an url in need of a shortener
[18:47:08] <CaptHindsight> andypugh: several sources say that Saskatchewan soil is very fertile
[18:47:41] <andypugh> I wonder how long the growing season is?
[18:50:00] <CaptHindsight> On average, your frost-free growing season starts May 21 and ends Sep 15, totalling 117 days.
[18:50:28] <CaptHindsight> slightly shorten than the US upper midwest
[18:51:27] <andypugh> My bit of the UK gets 300 days
[18:51:48] <andypugh> So, if you are a Canadian farmer you get a lot more time off… Hmm
[18:52:40] <CaptHindsight> https://www.nrcan.gc.ca
[18:52:45] <andypugh> Not that I really care, as I am not a farmer or gardener, but it does mean a longer motorcycle riding season.
[18:53:28] <andypugh> I rode to work today in shirt and unlined suit. OK, so that was a mistake, I was cold, but not dangereously cold.
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[18:55:14] <CaptHindsight> i got the forklift stuck a few feet from the door
[18:55:57] <SpeedEvil> I have a fucked up sleep/wake issue at the moment.
[18:56:25] <SpeedEvil> hence why I just moved 6 solar panels at closing on midnight. Just 19 to go.
[18:56:31] <CaptHindsight> anyone looking for a 10K lb (4500Kg) capacity forklift?
[18:56:41] <SpeedEvil> CaptHindsight: see above
[18:56:41] <andypugh> Me too. I have decided to go to bed at 10pm tonight, in an attempt to feel like getting up at the time that I should get up to not raise eyebrows at work.
[18:56:57] <SpeedEvil> CaptHindsight: But unless it's a rugged terrain one, it'd just bog alas.
[18:57:14] <andypugh> OK, there is alreadya flaw in that plan...
[18:57:23] <CaptHindsight> tare weight is 16k Lbs
[18:58:35] <CaptHindsight> smooth tires on snow
[18:59:00] <CaptHindsight> they might get stuck in rain on an incline
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[19:01:21] <CaptHindsight> what is you night length currently?
[19:02:12] <CaptHindsight> Daylight Hours: 9 hours (+3m 11s) thats not bad
[19:02:27] <andypugh> Dark around 1730, sunrise arounf 0730
[19:03:04] <andypugh> But, that is because we are a lot further North than Sakatchwen
[19:03:53] <andypugh> Well, maybe not a lot, and maybe not all of it
[19:14:58] <Tom_L> your goal to show up to work on time once a week?
[19:16:55] <CaptHindsight> yeah, never understood the 9-5 unless you really are interactive with a team
[19:18:46] <andypugh> Anyway, it’s now past midnight, and I am going with Plan B. Night all
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[19:40:53] <SpeedEvil> sun here 8:14-4:37
[19:40:58] <SpeedEvil> 56N
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