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[01:29:33] <fragalot> https://i.imgur.com
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[02:49:52] <Deejay> moin
[03:17:55] <Loetmichel> moin Deejay
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[05:39:57] <jthornton> morning
[05:44:56] <XXCoder> morning
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[06:15:21] <Tom_L> morning
[06:16:04] <XXCoder> wow tues is predicted to be quite cold also apparently, but monday now has no snow prediction
[06:16:07] <XXCoder> aw.
[06:16:56] <Tom_L> 24F Hi 47
[06:17:13] <XXCoder> btw https://beta.scmp.com lol
[06:17:15] <XXCoder> thats insane
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[06:22:17] <jthornton> 17°F - 36°F and the low tonight is only 34°F
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[07:18:32] * Loetmichel is just designing his first part in MoI (3dcad)... A letterbox-lock. and its EASY!... no idea why i had that much angxiety for 3d until now...
[07:18:56] <XXCoder> i should bring https://www.thingiverse.com once I print it to work lol
[07:18:59] <XXCoder> see what they say
[07:19:48] <jthornton> lol
[07:20:12] <Loetmichel> XXCoder: funny. dont use too much force though. could be a bit inaccurate if you do ;)
[07:20:18] <XXCoder> indeed lol
[07:20:50] <XXCoder> they left extra material at andvil so can sand down till its zero when its meeting
[07:20:51] <Loetmichel> use stainless filled filament and polish it... then throw a hissy fit over something and throw it in the corner when some coworker is looking ;)
[07:21:02] <XXCoder> lol
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[07:31:05] <Loetmichel> XXCoder: someone did that at a company i worked for a few decades back with a "good/bad" cylindircal gauge block (looks like a dog bone, no idea what they are called in english) that he had borrowed from the companys tool storage. He turned a "copy" from mild steel, then went back a day later and told the man at the tool storage: "WHAT A PIECE OF ("/§$/(§$, DOESENT FIT A SINGLE PART!!!"
[07:31:05] <Loetmichel> and proceeded to throw the copy with full force across the room into the brick wall
[07:31:26] <Loetmichel> the face of the guy at the tool storage: priceless!
[07:31:50] <XXCoder> I know of those good/bad "double pin" yeah. dunno name also lol
[07:31:56] <XXCoder> LOL
[07:58:11] <jthornton> Go/No Go gauge
[07:58:30] <XXCoder> pretty simple name. thanks
[08:07:27] <Loetmichel> anyways, $me nearly pissed himself laughing when the coworker did that
[08:07:57] <Loetmichel> those precision gauges are stored there in a wooden case with velvet liner inside...
[08:08:09] <Loetmichel> and are pretty expensive
[08:08:52] <XXCoder> of course
[08:09:37] <XXCoder> one job at work needs .3305 - .331" so we have special gage pins for those
[08:10:20] <XXCoder> pins have +- .0002" (depends on negative or postive pins) but those have much smaller +-
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[08:40:18] <beachbumpete1> Hey Folks howzitgoin today? :)
[08:41:00] <XXCoder> hey beach
[08:41:45] <beachbumpete1> Hey man its been ahwile since I have been around here :)
[08:41:57] <beachbumpete1> Been workin' my azz off
[08:42:21] <XXCoder> yeah was wondering
[08:42:54] <beachbumpete1> got a project we are working on making some stainless steel structural supports for some bay windows
[08:43:17] <beachbumpete1> gonna have to drill a buttload of holes in 1/2 inch 304 stainless plate
[08:43:31] <beachbumpete1> trying to determine the best choice of drill for that right now
[08:43:44] <beachbumpete1> gonna be doing it in our HAAS VF4
[08:45:43] <Loetmichel> beachbumpete1: our sheet metal guy just said he is done with a few enclosures made from 1,5mm aluminium... 17k 3mm holes stamped for airflow... he said the sheet were "clicking" more than 3mm each at the air vents before going thru the rollers
[08:45:48] <beachbumpete1> we were thinking about just getting a handful of cobalt HSS screw machine length drills but carbide is an option
[08:45:59] <Loetmichel> seems he needs a new 3mm punch tool for the CNC punch ;)
[08:46:48] <beachbumpete1> woah thats a bunch of holes man :)
[08:46:51] <gregcnc> last night I go to start the van, and it won't even unlock after the two days in -25°F
[08:47:15] <beachbumpete1> hell I wouldn't unlock in that temperature either ;)
[08:47:23] <gregcnc> battery drained dead
[08:47:29] <gregcnc> but nothing was on
[08:48:11] <gregcnc> I should have measured current to see if it's something other than a light
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[08:54:04] <gregcnc> good deal around here https://rockford.craigslist.org
[08:57:54] <beachbumpete1> anyone done a lot of stainless drilling recently that used a kickazz drill that they would recommend?
[08:58:34] <XXCoder> for very hard part I used cobolt. lasts much longer but you should use carbide for final sizing or mill
[08:58:58] <XXCoder> very strong drill lol lasted way longer than carbide would
[08:59:09] <beachbumpete1> well technically this stuff is NOT that hard but you know stainless is always a bitch
[08:59:16] <XXCoder> yeah
[08:59:52] <XXCoder> stainless isnt too common at work but usually an annoyance
[09:00:01] <beachbumpete1> I saw that Norseman drills makes a stainless specific drill that has a narrower web to apparently create less heat/rubbing but they do not appear to come in screw machine length
[09:00:38] <beachbumpete1> my pal Sammy said he uses YG1 carbide dream drills in stainlesss but they are like $100 a piece or more in that size
[09:00:50] <XXCoder> is that that weird drill that have fullsize initally but strunks
[09:00:58] <SpeedEvil> Buy enough chinese drills to do a pilot at one per hole.
[09:01:06] <XXCoder> what size is hole youre considering anyway
[09:01:42] <gregcnc> i would have suggested dream drills, but many make stanliess specific drills
[09:03:23] <XXCoder> because if its larger holes you could consider inserts type
[09:03:30] <XXCoder> cheaper
[09:06:16] <Loetmichel> beachbumpete1: i always use Tungsten carbide drill bits for stainless
[09:06:18] <beachbumpete1> yeah Sammy suggested insert drill as well but I think they would be more
[09:06:21] <Loetmichel> bot only in the CNC
[09:06:29] <Loetmichel> freehand and carbide is a nogo
[09:07:07] <XXCoder> theres few types, i have used lathe drill type on mill, as well as bit strange one that has entire tip replacable
[09:07:25] <beachbumpete1> yeah this will be in the CNC
[09:07:36] <XXCoder> I would guess tip is $40 to $60 each but then its wah cheaper than replacing entire drill which is in few hundred bucks?
[09:07:37] <gregcnc> the indexable tip type are quite costly. It seems like tips cost as much as solid drills
[09:07:58] <gregcnc> the saving is in the setup
[09:08:32] <XXCoder> greg the tip type I used is for fiberglass. it eats drills fairly slowly but if it was solid drill it'd have strunk lol
[09:08:48] <XXCoder> inserts is more immune to that and lasts miore than twice as long
[09:09:30] <Loetmichel> inserts are usually "less sharp" than solid though
[09:09:42] <XXCoder> beach it really depends. cobolt drill for example is extremely tough but very expensive if I recall right
[09:09:48] <Loetmichel> so not that ideal for stainless or any other "tough" material
[09:10:03] <gregcnc> dream drill are not sharp
[09:10:09] <gregcnc> they have a honed edge
[09:10:11] <beachbumpete1> you gotta CUT the stainless for sure
[09:10:12] <XXCoder> Loetmichel: ya other type insert is better, the lathe type (2 inserts )
[09:10:25] <SpeedEvil> Turn it up to 11, and flow drill.
[09:11:09] <beachbumpete1> unfortunately I dont have tsc on this machine
[09:11:44] <XXCoder> sometimes its better to just drill smaller hole then do mill then finish mill
[09:11:51] <Loetmichel> SpeedEvil: you mean with a blunt cylindrical "bit" that makes the material red hot by friction and "flows" it away?
[09:11:55] <SpeedEvil> Loetmichel: yes
[09:12:14] <XXCoder> all the abuse is on drill, and first mill. finish mill should last damn near forever if you take only small amont off, and stays within tol
[09:12:26] <gregcnc> The iscar tipped drills have many types of inserts, i don't have any for SS but steel and especially aluminum are sharp
[09:22:44] <gregcnc> beachbumpete1 this looks about right https://www.instagram.com
[09:26:33] <XXCoder> dont you need to clean up afterwards?
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[09:29:00] <beachbumpete1> gregcnc: WOAH lets not try that
[09:32:09] <gregcnc> lol
[09:40:38] <gregcnc> This looks like fun citizen L12 https://youtu.be
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[10:38:26] <Loetmichel> gregcnc/ beachbumpete1: stainless is "tough but soft" meaning it tends to flow rather than getting cut. kinda like aluminium. so aluminium tools are not the worst decision for stainless. also stainless does work harden, so its even more important to CUT it and not "shove it around"
[10:39:18] <gregcnc> yes, I know and do use aluminum tooling on SS occasionally
[10:41:12] <gregcnc> I was going to try a dream drill inox on aluminum, but found it had honed edges. they have AL grades
[10:48:44] <beachbumpete1> Loetmichel: THanks for the tips man. and everyone else for that matter
[10:51:57] <beachbumpete1> just pulled the trigger on half a dozen 1/2" cobalt precision twist drills brand stub/screw machine length drills. hopefully they will kick azz and make it thru the job :)
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[10:53:42] <MacGalempsy> good morning
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[11:27:30] <MacGalempsy> My first successful 3D Scan. https://flic.kr
[11:37:01] <gregcnc> looks like it caught every gastly detail
[11:39:20] <MacGalempsy> the model is about 10" tall.
[11:41:41] <MacGalempsy> smaller scans take some cleanup, and shiny black plastic gets a coat of powder
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[12:20:42] <Loetmichel> *GNHIHI* i am watching a series of a canadian framer that is builing a two story house alone... todays video had a comment under it: "The Crazy Framer when you enter a bar, Chuck Norris is running thru the batroom window!" :-)
[12:21:20] <Loetmichel> ... that man is a BEAST... ;)
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[13:13:36] <rmu> cool https://hsto.org
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[13:16:51] <fragalot> huzzah, free trade agreement with japan
[13:16:58] <Joe_Hildreth> Hello all, I have a small question about the stepconf wizard.
[13:17:04] <fragalot> Hello good chisels! :D
[13:18:10] <Joe_Hildreth> If you select 2 parallel ports, you will be presented with a "Parallel Por 2" dialog. You can select if this port is input or output, but you cannot set the address or enumeration of the port.
[13:20:03] <Joe_Hildreth> I am working on another tutorial and am not sure this is and oversight or a bug.
[13:24:03] <Joe_Hildreth> I see that when the hal file is written it specifies the enumerated port number, but without editing the cofig file there is no way to set the address instead of an enumerated port.
[13:26:56] <fragalot> it sounds like a bug to me
[13:26:58] <pcw_mesa> sure sounds like a bug
[13:38:18] <Joe_Hildreth> I have put the video tutorial on hold for now, is there anyway to get it fixed, or should I continue with the tutorial and explain it to the neophyte user?
[13:41:01] <sensille> damn, i finally found my problem with bad Z
[13:41:06] <fragalot> sensille: what was it?
[13:41:16] <sensille> as someone suggested the other day, an entry in the tool table
[13:41:30] <sensille> i never looked at it, so i assumed it to be all zero
[13:41:37] <sensille> but it wasn't
[13:42:14] <sensille> also moved max Z to 1, so 0 is safe
[13:50:16] <sensille> it was 0.1, no wonder i was going crazy
[13:50:37] <sensille> (mm)
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[14:04:38] <gloops> done any cutting yet sensille?
[14:06:38] <sensille> https://i.imgur.com
[14:10:15] <gloops> that looks pretty good to me
[14:10:47] <sensille> i'm very happy with that one
[14:11:02] <sensille> but i really not to learn a lot about z
[14:11:09] <sensille> s/not/need
[14:11:38] <sensille> like checking the bed and the stock beforehand, and mill the stock flat
[14:12:16] <gloops> practice makes perfect
[14:12:39] <sensille> and to get into the mindset
[14:13:51] <gloops> i found i took a few mistakes before i realised what was really happening with some things
[14:15:48] <sensille> next challenge is to put the workpiece into the vice and mill the fillets on the backside
[14:16:54] <gloops> what machine are you using?
[14:17:28] <sensille> https://i.imgur.com
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[14:17:50] <sensille> 6040Z
[14:18:22] <gloops> oh yeah - Loetmichel was right they are ok for aluminium then
[14:19:11] <sensille> yeah, but max stepdown i use is 0.15mm, better 0.1
[14:19:32] <sensille> that piece above took 3 hours
[14:19:51] <gloops> have you looked at the adaptive milling strategies on F360?
[14:20:19] <gloops> some people in here are allegedly cutting a lot of time off - with some tasks anyway
[14:20:35] <sensille> yes, but couldn't get good results with it yet. i used 3d pocket for the above
[14:21:30] <Loetmichel> gloops: they are ok for aluminium, as long as the mill bit is razor sharp and the milling forces are pretty low
[14:21:35] <gloops> well ive only done a few tests with alu on mine, i was around .1mm cut as well
[14:22:07] <Loetmichel> any deeper into the alu with a 3mm two flute than about 0.15mm full cut and the gantry starts to flex
[14:22:28] <sensille> and it makes a _terrible_ noise
[14:22:35] <Loetmichel> sensille: indeed ,)
[14:23:12] <gloops> must be some way to stiffen the gantry
[14:23:24] <Loetmichel> sadly: there isnt
[14:23:33] <sensille> accidentally i cut 1mm once, it was terifying, but nothing broke
[14:23:35] <Loetmichel> short of buying new rails for it
[14:23:55] <Loetmichel> it uses unsupported 25mm diameter rails
[14:24:08] <Loetmichel> on the gantry
[14:24:47] <Loetmichel> on ~600mm (275mm travel) length unsupported rails make for quite a bit of flex
[14:24:54] <gloops> my gantry is heavy and rigid, but im using sbr rails, maybe thats the issue with mine, i never really did any proper tests though, just a quick run with a straight flute router cutter, i need to have another go
[14:25:33] <gloops> yeah unsupported rails wont take it
[14:25:36] <Loetmichel> one time i will buy some SBR 16 and then make a new ganty with a 200by 60 aluminium tube as the gantry beam
[14:25:47] <Loetmichel> THAT should be able to do 1mm deep cuts then ;)
[14:26:05] <gloops> what spindle speeds are you using?
[14:26:21] <sensille> Loetmichel: do you think the result is better right in the corner?
[14:26:21] <Loetmichel> 24krpm for a 2/3mm two flute
[14:26:37] <Loetmichel> sensille: i dont think so. i KNOW its better
[14:26:44] <gloops> wow, so fast? i was trying to slow mine down as much as possible, about 7k
[14:26:47] <Loetmichel> the nearer you are to the side walls
[14:27:20] <sensille> that's good to know, never thought of that before. at least the vice is well placed then
[14:27:30] <sensille> but the spoil board isn't
[14:27:41] <Loetmichel> gloops: https://www.youtube.com <- 1200mm/min, 24krpm, 0,15mm DOC, 2mm 2 flute cutting 3,5mm hexagons
[14:28:26] <gloops> i like the overall wobble lol
[14:28:35] <gloops> but impressive cutting
[14:28:48] <Loetmichel> yeah, the stand under it is just a PC desk
[14:28:50] <Loetmichel> on wheels
[14:29:07] <gloops> well it seems to work
[14:29:34] <Loetmichel> thats where the wobble comes from
[14:29:53] <Loetmichel> the spindle is nearly stationary, the machine moves around it ;)
[14:29:54] <gloops> i think it might have been the cutter i was using that held mine back, i didnt want to use a good cutter i just used an old router cutter
[14:30:51] <Loetmichel> yeah, i only use those: https://www.sorotec.de
[14:31:01] <Loetmichel> works pretty well
[14:31:24] <sensille> i did the above completely with a 3mm ball end mill
[14:33:43] <gloops> ive got plenty of one and two flute spiral cutters now i think ill try again, if theyre better ill get some proper alu cutters
[14:40:45] <fragalot> has anyone got a good european supplier in mind that sells downcut 6mm bullnose endmills for stainless?
[14:41:02] <fragalot> or near-neutral or neutral would also work
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[14:45:52] <gloops> any particular specs for stainless?
[14:46:18] <gloops> or, do you want a dedicated stainless cutter
[14:50:58] <roycroft> hey folks
[14:51:18] <roycroft> i'd like to be able to easily and reliably grind drills to custom profiles, primarily brad point
[14:51:45] <roycroft> it looks like the standard tool grinders such as the deckel so or clones of it won't fit the bill
[14:52:04] <roycroft> any suggestions on something that will do that?
[14:52:13] <gloops> https://www.ebay.co.uk
[14:52:42] <roycroft> when i need a brad point drill that's not one of the common sizes, it costs $10 or more greater than a twist drill of the same size
[14:53:07] <gloops> Hitachi cutters are supposed to be good, the ball nose cutters, probably less prone to snap with stainless, the cheapo ones might be more economical
[14:53:34] <gloops> https://www.ebay.co.uk
[14:53:42] <roycroft> https://www.ebay.com
[14:54:16] <roycroft> that is tempting, especially if i could get a drill attachment and a end mill attachment relatively inexpensively, but i don't think i can grind a brad point profile with it
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[15:15:41] <fragalot> roycroft: you actually can
[15:16:04] <roycroft> the stone isn't too wide for that?
[15:16:14] <fragalot> I've been meaning to make an endmill attachment for mine, so far i've just made an ER25 adapter for it instead of the deckel collets
[15:16:30] <fragalot> roycroft: just dress the stone into the shape you want, or put in a diamond or CBN wheel
[15:16:39] <roycroft> hmm
[15:16:47] <fragalot> the ebay cheapie CBN wheels are "good enough" in my experience
[15:17:08] <fragalot> sharpening the tips on endmills goes well, but I can't do the sides (yet)
[15:17:09] <roycroft> the knock-offs are fairly compatible with the real thing
[15:17:23] <roycroft> i looked at knock-offs at first
[15:17:28] <roycroft> because they're $600-$900
[15:17:35] <fragalot> i've got a 20yr old knock-off
[15:17:35] <roycroft> and a brand new deckel so is $10k
[15:17:46] <roycroft> but for $800, a used deckel could be a pretty good deal
[15:18:09] <roycroft> there's a grizzly i was looking at
[15:18:33] <roycroft> https://www.grizzly.com
[15:18:41] <roycroft> that might work ok
[15:19:08] <roycroft> they have an add-on package to do drills, end mills, and lathe tooling
[15:19:08] <fragalot> probably would, depending on your requirements for precision / repeatability
[15:19:29] <fragalot> cutting the flutes on an endmill might require some TLC first :P
[15:19:34] <roycroft> for making brad point drills for woodworking i'd say semi-precise would be fine
[15:20:05] <roycroft> if i wanted to resharpen end mills i'd want to remove the word "semi-"
[15:20:16] <fragalot> yeah, i've even used mine for "brad point" style drills for sheet metal
[15:20:22] <roycroft> and it would be nice to be able to do that
[15:20:41] <roycroft> if i'm going to invest $1k in a grinder i want to get as much use out of it as possible
[15:20:54] <roycroft> the grizzly would probably need some fine tuning out of the box to do precision work
[15:21:01] <roycroft> a brand new deckel would work fine out of the box
[15:21:20] <roycroft> but an old used one might need some work
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[15:23:50] <fragalot> still a high chance of it being better than the chinese one to start out with
[15:25:04] <roycroft> yes, that's what i think
[15:25:14] <roycroft> grizzly have another grinder that is quite similar, but maid in taiwan for $1k more
[15:25:24] <roycroft> https://www.grizzly.com
[15:25:33] <roycroft> that page shows the two different models
[15:25:59] <roycroft> and i'm not sure what the difference is that makes the second one worth $1k more
[15:26:06] <roycroft> the second one does say that it has a dividing head
[15:26:08] <roycroft> and the first does not
[15:26:18] <roycroft> but i thought that was a standard feature on the deckel clones
[15:26:49] <roycroft> that's an important feature
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[15:30:05] <CaptHindsight> no "makers" have stepped up to the challenge of a universal tool grinder?!
[15:31:51] <roycroft> i'm really thinking that the used deckel would be the thing to get
[15:31:59] <roycroft> the only drawback is that it's 3 phase
[15:32:05] <roycroft> so i'd need a phase converter for it
[15:32:10] <roycroft> but that's not a deal breaker
[15:32:18] <roycroft> just a minor annoyance
[15:32:34] <CaptHindsight> they practically give VFD's away now
[15:32:44] <roycroft> i've found single phase versions on ebay, but they're 3-4x as much
[15:32:56] <roycroft> because people think it's hard to do phase conversion or something
[15:33:10] <roycroft> yeah, i'm sure i can get a vfd for that for <$100
[15:33:22] <CaptHindsight> they find it difficult to explain
[15:33:55] <roycroft> i don't need variable speed
[15:34:14] <roycroft> but a variable speed vfd is probably the cheapest way to go
[15:35:51] <CaptHindsight> the 1ph motor in my Clausing burned out so i replaced it with a 3ph and figured I'd replace the hydraulic speed system with electronic...
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[15:36:25] <CaptHindsight> after letting the system sit for a while all the air in the system bled out and it works like new
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[15:37:16] <CaptHindsight> gregcnc: have you noticed how few lathes are for sale locally lately?
[15:39:53] <CaptHindsight> roycroft: it's also an easy motor swap on the deckel
[15:40:04] <CaptHindsight> https://i.ebayimg.com
[15:40:15] <CaptHindsight> belt driven
[15:43:27] <gregcnc> yes, I've been watching since I crashed mine
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[16:02:04] <CaptHindsight> MacGalempsy: any LC projects lately?
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[16:09:23] <MacGalempsy> kind of
[16:09:54] <MacGalempsy> I bought a 200 series 2 weeks ago, so kind of working on that. however, the 40 series is at the restoration shop
[16:10:40] <MacGalempsy> CaptHindsight: have you been able to keep your shop warm?
[16:11:30] <MacGalempsy> also, been trying to sell this sinker EDM to get it out of my mother-in-laws garage... it is all trailered up and just waiting on a buyer lol
[16:11:37] <CaptHindsight> MacGalempsy: heh, heat kicked on every 20 minutes Tues till this am
[16:12:14] <CaptHindsight> we keep it ~60F so not really a problem
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[16:12:52] <MacGalempsy> have you been searching for anymore geologic deposits lately?
[16:12:58] <CaptHindsight> we didn't break the record here, only went down to -25F
[16:13:38] <CaptHindsight> MacGalempsy: settled on the glacial deposits in the area, not ideal but very local
[16:14:23] <CaptHindsight> MacGalempsy: just a few miles shy of 300K on my 90 series
[16:14:44] <CaptHindsight> sorry 80 series
[16:15:22] <CaptHindsight> will pull apart the front and read diffs again to see any wear
[16:15:23] <MacGalempsy> sweet! the only thing so far with the 200 series is the 14mpg...
[16:15:50] <CaptHindsight> injectors are just starting to go
[16:16:19] <CaptHindsight> the Grand Tour had 6 new LC's die last season
[16:16:30] <CaptHindsight> they don't make them like they used to
[16:16:33] <MacGalempsy> who is the Grand Tour?
[16:16:45] <CaptHindsight> the guys from Top Gear
[16:16:54] <MacGalempsy> the 40 series is getting a 2B engine that was rebuilt and has 700 miles on it
[16:17:10] <MacGalempsy> 2b is a mechanical diesel
[16:17:10] <CaptHindsight> https://en.wikipedia.org
[16:17:28] <CaptHindsight> where is the diesel from?
[16:18:13] <MacGalempsy> Australia and it came factory 12v
[16:18:38] <MacGalempsy> the guy I bought it from got sponsored by Cummins, so he pulled it
[16:19:04] <MacGalempsy> the only think that was necessary was matching the transfer case to the new transmission
[16:19:37] <MacGalempsy> the guys at advanced adapters did it for ~1300.
[16:19:47] <CaptHindsight> yeah a few years ago I looked at making adapter plates
[16:20:27] <MacGalempsy> this is a plate and a splined spindle
[16:21:02] <MacGalempsy> and a few extra things, like a burnt gear and shift fork
[16:23:11] <CaptHindsight> mine will probably be legislated off the road before I wear it out
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[16:24:33] <MacGalempsy> https://oklahomacity.craigslist.org worth it?
[16:25:23] <MacGalempsy> probably not metric...
[16:29:59] <CaptHindsight> pcs to low res to see
[16:30:45] <CaptHindsight> I see 16ths on the sockets )
[16:32:34] <MacGalempsy> CaptHindsight: did you see the 3D scan pic I posted earlier? it was a pretty amazing result, much better than expected
[16:33:31] <CaptHindsight> yes
[16:33:35] <CaptHindsight> the creature
[16:33:39] <CaptHindsight> bbl
[16:34:02] <MacGalempsy> the scan of the LC knobs is coming out fairly well, but not as good as that
[16:34:06] <MacGalempsy> bye
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[16:52:05] <Deejay> gn8
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[17:02:21] <Net|> https://github.com
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[17:39:54] <Tom_L> speaking of Grand Tour, there have been 4 new ones released this year
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[19:47:02] <Net|> is there such thing as remote electric drills for pressure relief or draining gas tanks ?
[19:48:44] <Net|> mechanical/magnetic attach
[19:53:50] <Vitran> ? What would that look like?
[19:53:59] <Vitran> Like a drill pump?
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[22:12:44] <MacGalempsy> tgif
[22:30:07] <Tom_L> yup
[22:36:08] <MacGalempsy> staying nice and warm Tom_L?
[22:41:37] <Tom_L> tryin
[22:41:47] <Tom_L> it was really foggy this morning
[22:41:58] <Tom_L> expecting the same tomorrow probably
[22:42:26] <MacGalempsy> meh...i cannot wait for spring to get here
[22:42:59] <Tom_L> warmin up next couple days then back down again
[22:43:13] <Tom_L> 64 by sunday hopefully
[22:45:03] <MacGalempsy> still trying to get moved back into the old workspace
[22:45:30] <MacGalempsy> seems like there are a half dozen monittors sitting around here...
[23:02:25] <_unreal_> sup
[23:02:45] <ziper> hi
[23:03:05] <_unreal_> do any of you know of a linux utility for sysing a harddrive to make it boot win98?
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[23:16:21] <Tom_L> 98 is pretty old
[23:17:43] <`Wolf_> i think win 98 is dos boot
[23:18:07] <Tom_L> https://forums.majorgeeks.com
[23:18:10] <Tom_L> he's gone anyway
[23:18:33] <Tom_L> knoppix live cd might work
[23:19:10] <`Wolf_> yeah, or one of the other half dozen popular utility boot disks lol
[23:19:45] <`Wolf_> would have been faster for him to google it anyways
[23:20:25] <`Wolf_> I bet I still have a win 98 boot disk here somewhere, on 3.5” floppy
[23:21:20] <Tom_L> i've got a couple stashed away
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[23:57:47] <XXCoder> tgif allll day
[23:57:52] <XXCoder> hey gloops