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[04:17:41] <CaptHindsight> BOOO
[04:17:49] <XXCoder> yah!!
[04:17:58] <CaptHindsight> sorry
[04:18:06] <XXCoder> some space humor http://portsherry.com
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[04:20:37] <CaptHindsight> I've never seen that comic before
[04:20:59] <fragalot> mornin'
[04:21:31] <XXCoder> i just discovered it myself. 2008 started apparently
[04:21:36] <XXCoder> hey
[04:21:47] <CaptHindsight> fragalot: any snow?
[04:22:06] <XXCoder> i checked and dang this week will be very cold, reaching 18f at wed
[04:22:12] <XXCoder> not normal lol
[04:22:16] <CaptHindsight> 10C here today
[04:22:16] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: just ice
[04:22:25] <CaptHindsight> everything is melting
[04:22:46] <fragalot> it's been hovering around 0°C, both above & under in cycles here
[04:22:56] <fragalot> enough to smooth out the ice & snow, & then re-freeze
[04:23:00] <fragalot> like natures zamboni
[04:23:04] <CaptHindsight> fragalot: have you seen Desktop Metals printers?
[04:23:15] <CaptHindsight> metal powder with inkjet binder
[04:23:23] <fragalot> no
[04:23:39] <CaptHindsight> after printing you desktop sinter
[04:23:53] <fragalot> neat, any good?
[04:23:58] <CaptHindsight> but the parts are not dense that way
[04:24:03] <fragalot> and is it really "desktop" ?
[04:24:17] <CaptHindsight> well they raised like $40-100M so far
[04:24:20] <fragalot> they're not dense, no, but they have gotten good at infusing later if you don't need material purity
[04:24:31] <CaptHindsight> yes, works in an office setting with external venting
[04:24:37] <CaptHindsight> like a laser cutter
[04:25:23] <CaptHindsight> why i was looking at rapid mold making for casting
[04:25:31] <CaptHindsight> it gets you solid parts
[04:25:48] <CaptHindsight> but it's not desktop obviously
[04:26:02] <fragalot> yea
[04:26:14] <CaptHindsight> well it could be with a desktop foundry
[04:26:21] <CaptHindsight> lots of insulation
[04:26:27] <fragalot> still not something you'd likely do in your office :D
[04:26:36] <fragalot> up on the 4th floor
[04:26:47] <fragalot> surrounded by flammable materials
[04:26:52] <CaptHindsight> they are burning out resins
[04:27:07] <CaptHindsight> looks like a microwave
[04:27:18] <CaptHindsight> so red hot
[04:27:47] <CaptHindsight> I'm wonder what market they have or if they will be another flash in the pan
[04:28:12] <fragalot> both?
[04:28:12] <CaptHindsight> https://www.desktopmetal.com
[04:28:31] <fragalot> niche market, but instill fear into the big boys & get bought up & put down
[04:28:33] <CaptHindsight> it's an inkjet with a m,etal powder bed
[04:28:54] <CaptHindsight> not sure buy possibly xaar heads
[04:29:00] <CaptHindsight> buy/but
[04:29:01] <fragalot> as I thought, they were very liberal with the term "desktop", lol
[04:29:16] <CaptHindsight> https://www.desktopmetal.com
[04:29:21] <CaptHindsight> the smaller one ^^
[04:29:27] <XXCoder> no, they arent, they are large enough to BE tables.
[04:29:31] <fragalot> the big ones I have seen
[04:29:38] <fragalot> and like I said, often later the parts are infused
[04:30:08] <CaptHindsight> a step they leave out of the info
[04:30:20] <fragalot> it's probably optional
[04:30:35] <CaptHindsight> As the part is heated to temperatures near melting, remaining binder is removed and metal particles fuse together causing the part to densify up to 96-99.8%.
[04:30:43] <fragalot> i've seen some manifold prototypes printed on them
[04:31:02] <CaptHindsight> ah so they remove the resin with solvent first
[04:31:05] <CaptHindsight> not burn out
[04:31:32] <fragalot> you can't burn carbon out of pores :P
[04:31:52] <CaptHindsight> some binder burn very well
[04:32:05] <CaptHindsight> <1% ash
[04:32:33] <CaptHindsight> the faster version sinters with the binder still in the powder
[04:32:35] <fragalot> still ash trapped in your part
[04:33:51] <CaptHindsight> so little it won't matter
[04:34:29] <CaptHindsight> resins are all hydrocarbons if they are pure
[04:34:50] <CaptHindsight> well i see that they have raised a ton of cash
[04:35:00] <CaptHindsight> not sure if they will be around in a few years
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[04:35:40] <fragalot> y'know what I wouldn't mind?
[04:36:03] <fragalot> if battery operated tool manufacturers would (unlikely) agree on a standard to use
[04:36:11] <CaptHindsight> hah
[04:36:33] <fragalot> my shed does not have the free space to YetAnotherCharger
[04:36:40] <fragalot> let alone a stack of batteries
[04:37:05] <CaptHindsight> yeah I have several perfectly good drills with no batteries
[04:37:07] <fragalot> and whilst we're at it, they should standardize printer cartridges too
[04:37:07] <fragalot> :D
[04:37:20] <Rab> Seems unlikely...I think the tools are almost a loss leader to sell batteries.
[04:37:34] <fragalot> Rab: of course
[04:37:53] <gloops> agreed, i ran over a charger for litium impact driver - batteries wont fit any other charger, new charger - may as well buy another driver
[04:38:01] <CaptHindsight> I love my corded drills
[04:38:25] <CaptHindsight> I have bought new drills just for the batteries
[04:38:35] <fragalot> makita have been kind to us though, I have to say
[04:38:52] <fragalot> we've had a few worn out drills & wanted to buy new ones, with some batteries
[04:39:06] <fragalot> they replaced the old drills for free with brand new ones
[04:39:10] <`Wolf_> I have a crap ton of milwaukee m18 stuff, just found recently on amazon battery adapters from m12 to dewilt, ryobi and makita
[04:39:13] <fragalot> because they changed battery standards since
[04:39:16] <XXCoder> capt you could repair batteries by tryingn to charge it up, then testing single cells and swapping dead cells
[04:39:26] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: yes I have
[04:39:32] <CaptHindsight> more projects
[04:39:36] <XXCoder> thats true
[04:39:48] <`Wolf_> err s/m12/m18
[04:40:24] <CaptHindsight> you need a crystal ball to see which brand to buy
[04:40:54] <CaptHindsight> some keep batteries for a few years, some change more often
[04:41:13] <`Wolf_> milwaukee posted a brag last week on face book that they haven’t changed battery mounting in 10 yrs
[04:41:18] <XXCoder> my drill batteries is super dead, its 15 years old lol
[04:41:24] <fragalot> my weed wacker runs on an AEG battery strapped on with velcro & faston connector jumper wires
[04:41:28] <fragalot> ._.
[04:41:29] <XXCoder> maybe can replace cells but eh
[04:41:44] <CaptHindsight> in China they just go buy "How many volts you want"
[04:41:45] <gloops> so one of you brainiacs with printing - design adaptors from makita to hitachi, bosch, whatever
[04:41:48] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: Makita has been quite good to us in terms of switching battery tech
[04:41:56] <gloops> the charger is the same its just the battery fitting
[04:42:14] <CaptHindsight> i think I got a bunch of Rigid
[04:42:16] <fragalot> gloops: mostly, yes
[04:42:28] <fragalot> what's also different is the amount of marketing wank
[04:42:34] <fragalot> "20V MAX!"
[04:42:37] <gloops> i bet they would sell like hot cakes
[04:42:42] <`Wolf_> I was going to print a adapter for M18 to the old v18 tools but fdm printing stocks
[04:42:45] <`Wolf_> sucks
[04:42:52] <fragalot> Wolf__: lol
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[04:43:32] <`Wolf_> funny part is m18 and dewilt 20V max is the same cell count
[04:43:41] <CaptHindsight> you know thats not a bad idea, I wonder if they have the designs trademarked or patented?
[04:43:52] <fragalot> I would imagine so?
[04:44:04] <CaptHindsight> 100% compatible replacement batteries
[04:44:05] <`Wolf_> there are tool pack adapters on amazon
[04:44:27] <`Wolf_> I use M18 packs on Ryobi tools now
[04:44:28] <CaptHindsight> they try pretty hard on the enclosure design
[04:44:36] <`Wolf_> and my dewalt nailer
[04:45:05] <CaptHindsight> do they have smart batteries in them like a laptop?
[04:45:11] <`Wolf_> next I need to pick up the adapter so I can use them on the makita that has 2 dead packs
[04:45:13] <fragalot> I also wouldn't mind a european version of the portabands that seem popular in the US
[04:45:21] <CaptHindsight> do they read an ID or serial number in order to turn on??
[04:45:24] <fragalot> they seem like useful little things, but are neigh impossible to find here
[04:45:27] <`Wolf_> nope
[04:45:31] <`Wolf_> not too smart
[04:45:45] <CaptHindsight> so just + and - ?
[04:45:46] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: they only have protection circuitry in the batteries
[04:45:56] <fragalot> no communication to the tool
[04:45:59] <CaptHindsight> yes, anti blow up prevention
[04:46:06] <CaptHindsight> ah good
[04:46:17] <`Wolf_> I think they may brick the control board if it loses total power, ie attempt to replace the cells
[04:46:39] <fragalot> Wolf__: easy enough to work around that
[04:46:50] <CaptHindsight> I used to make laptop batteries
[04:46:54] <CaptHindsight> so no biggie
[04:47:11] <CaptHindsight> temp protection is the big thing
[04:47:12] <`Wolf_> yeah, I just buy new tool w/ 2 batteries every year lol
[04:47:29] <CaptHindsight> charge or discharge too fast and it open the contacts
[04:48:14] <`Wolf_> I love my cordless porta-band
[04:48:25] <fragalot> just stay under 20C and youll be fine :P
[04:48:49] <`Wolf_> been thinking about getting the uni-strut sized one for cutting stock to use in the lathe lol
[04:51:19] <`Wolf_> red tools everywhere https://i.imgur.com :D
[04:51:59] <fragalot> lol
[04:52:23] <CaptHindsight> I like my cordless toll for about 5-10 minutes top
[04:52:30] <CaptHindsight> toll/tools
[04:52:42] <`Wolf_> had to buy a new 3/8 impact gun because that one lives on the mill
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[04:52:50] <CaptHindsight> my corded tools I like all day
[04:53:24] <CaptHindsight> sometimes I forget and am waiting for the power to decrease, but it has a cord
[04:53:27] <`Wolf_> if I was in a workshop, corded tool are ok
[04:53:45] <`Wolf_> but seems half the time I’m not lol
[04:54:27] <CaptHindsight> I still have milwaukee tools from the 70's and 80's
[04:54:36] <`Wolf_> and working on the big trucks getting cords and airlines around them is a total pain in the ass
[04:54:38] <fragalot> I have a healthy collection of both
[04:54:57] <fragalot> cordless is fine for the quick work, corded if you're going to be doing that task all day & need the oomph
[04:55:00] <CaptHindsight> the service center is nearby
[04:55:53] <`Wolf_> my 1/2” brushless impact gun has more torque then my 1/2” air impact that cost $100 more… >.<
[04:56:12] <CaptHindsight> I have 4 HF cordless drills with all the same batteries
[04:56:33] <CaptHindsight> the batteries last longer than the drills
[04:57:17] <`Wolf_> https://i.imgur.com
[04:57:35] <CaptHindsight> yah just needs 300 PSI on the air line :)
[04:57:39] <`Wolf_> I only have 1 m18 battery that is totally dead
[04:57:53] <`Wolf_> and its the compact one that is over 9yrs old
[04:58:06] <CaptHindsight> bet he's a Milwaukee dealer
[04:58:24] <`Wolf_> that my shit in the pic lol
[04:58:35] <CaptHindsight> whats the tall thing on the right rear?
[04:58:50] <`Wolf_> tower light
[04:58:53] <CaptHindsight> coredless jackhammer
[04:59:02] <CaptHindsight> ah
[04:59:22] <CaptHindsight> cordless MIG
[04:59:39] <`Wolf_> we end up fighting over the lights in the shop
[05:00:04] <CaptHindsight> we need nuclear powered cordless
[05:00:40] <`Wolf_> hah yeah
[05:01:07] <CaptHindsight> laser, welder, portable lathe
[05:02:05] <`Wolf_> i thought about using some double sided tape and sticking like 10 m18 packs on my 30A plasma and taking a pic to troll people
[05:02:28] <CaptHindsight> make a youtube
[05:03:26] <CaptHindsight> have to get some sleep 4;00
[05:03:32] <`Wolf_> I’m probably going to end up getting the cordless chainsaw next…
[05:03:42] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: cordless jackhammers have been around for ages
[05:04:00] <fragalot> you can find them by following the trail of oil they leave behind
[05:04:02] <`Wolf_> once I sell off 3 more of my gas saws that never get used now
[05:04:20] <fragalot> also
[05:04:32] <fragalot> I believe there IS a portable welder/plasma available if i'm not mistaken
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[05:04:49] <`Wolf_> https://i.imgur.com
[05:05:14] <CaptHindsight> well gas powered
[05:05:15] <fragalot> http://www.pki-electronic.com
[05:05:18] <`Wolf_> hypertherm makes a xp30 w/ a aircompressor built in
[05:05:50] <fragalot> my plasma cutter is the size of that unit to the left still,.. probably older than I am
[05:06:36] <`Wolf_> one on the left in that pic is a hypertherm power max 1000, its about 15yrs old iirc
[05:06:47] <`Wolf_> 65A machine
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[05:07:22] <fragalot> mine is 45A iirc
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[05:07:35] <CaptHindsight> i have an old transformer model
[05:07:38] <fragalot> given that I only really use it for 0.8mm sheet.. it suffices :D
[05:07:47] <`Wolf_> I needed to order a new torch for it w/ a week lead time so the $1200 30A came back to the shop w/ me
[05:07:50] <CaptHindsight> 200-300lbs
[05:08:22] <`Wolf_> lol we have one of them in storage @ the shop
[05:08:46] <`Wolf_> 50A thing thats is 2x the size of my mig welder
[05:08:49] <CaptHindsight> i think the power cord is 3 x #6 or #4
[05:09:27] <CaptHindsight> yes giant
[05:10:10] <`Wolf_> most stuff I cut in the shop is 1/4”-1/2” (6mm-12.7mm)
[05:10:37] <`Wolf_> 30A will do it, slow as hell tho
[05:12:01] <`Wolf_> one of the typical plasma jobs in the shop https://i.imgur.com
[05:12:29] <CaptHindsight> http://www.sciencemag.org
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[05:13:23] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: so they took those novelty "bubble in acrylic" art machines & put resin in insetad?
[05:13:43] <`Wolf_> thats the same thing that came to mind when I was reading
[05:14:29] <fragalot> kinda neat, if i'm honest
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[05:15:24] <CaptHindsight> the projector or lasers are from two angles
[05:15:45] <CaptHindsight> where they meet there is enough energy to trigger polymerization
[05:16:14] <CaptHindsight> if they print too slowly the whole thing will just be a blob
[05:16:31] <fragalot> or if you just re-use the resin
[05:16:49] <CaptHindsight> so one laser or projection is not enough energy to cure the desired areas, it takes 2 beams
[05:17:10] <CaptHindsight> but after a while the one beam will be enough energy to cure the resin
[05:17:33] <CaptHindsight> https://www.3dprintingmedia.network
[05:17:58] <XXCoder> saw video of it. amazing
[05:18:10] <XXCoder> end of fsm? highly doubt that
[05:18:18] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com
[05:18:27] <XXCoder> since its limited to certain plastics.
[05:18:29] <`Wolf_> one can hope, right
[05:18:45] <XXCoder> you cant do it wioth nylon. nor abs
[05:19:20] <`Wolf_> if one of the resins is close to the property of PETG I would be happy with one…
[05:19:25] <XXCoder> indeed
[05:19:59] <XXCoder> i would be happy with petg variant that i can print that way
[05:20:05] <CaptHindsight> photopolymers
[05:20:06] <XXCoder> perfect for some applications.
[05:20:39] <`Wolf_> I did 1/2x20 thread in alum the other night w/ my lathe, my change gears are PETG printed lol
[05:20:40] <CaptHindsight> mostly acrylated epoxies, polyesters, urethanes, some new elastomers
[05:21:34] <CaptHindsight> won't work with photopolymers with metal powders in them
[05:21:55] <XXCoder> looks like it'd have to be transparent
[05:21:59] <CaptHindsight> has to be translucent
[05:22:09] <XXCoder> i wonder how dark it can be before it stops curing inside
[05:22:18] <CaptHindsight> what they don't tell you :)
[05:22:53] <CaptHindsight> depends on the curing wavelength
[05:23:07] <XXCoder> would be interesting if it was xray
[05:23:20] <XXCoder> then its any color as long as its transparent to xray
[05:23:28] <CaptHindsight> could be e-beam
[05:23:48] <CaptHindsight> xray would go right through
[05:23:56] <CaptHindsight> to short a wavelength
[05:24:17] <XXCoder> true would require minium capture in order to cure
[05:24:30] <CaptHindsight> https://en.wikipedia.org
[05:24:59] <XXCoder> wow missed this video. https://www.youtube.com
[05:25:02] <XXCoder> pretty cool
[05:25:08] <CaptHindsight> https://www.photonics.com
[05:25:29] <XXCoder> movable? dang
[05:25:50] <jthornton> morning
[05:25:53] <CaptHindsight> hasta banana everyone
[05:26:31] <XXCoder> hey jthornton
[05:26:39] <XXCoder> check out the video
[05:27:08] <XXCoder> also, looks like snow prediction is back, and today will have sleet. lol
[05:27:19] <XXCoder> and after that very cold, goes down to 18f. very rare for here!
[05:30:20] <Wolf__> at least I managed to get part of something done https://i.imgur.com lol
[05:30:33] <XXCoder> progress!
[05:30:38] <jthornton> XXCoder: what video
[05:31:12] <XXCoder> wow missed this video. https://www.youtube.com
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[05:38:03] <jthornton> I made all the wood parts for this http://gnipsel.com on my mill
[05:38:59] <XXCoder> nice!
[05:40:58] <jthornton> a lot of the metal work the strapping and stuff was made by hand
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[05:41:50] <XXCoder> yiu didnt cast the cannon itself?
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[05:45:03] <Wolf__> thats not a sword… XXCoder https://www.youtube.com :D
[05:45:07] <jthornton> no, I bought the barrel from Dixie Gun Works
[05:45:24] <XXCoder> Wolf__: lol for a kid ehh no :)
[05:45:37] <XXCoder> not that I'll have any kid lol
[05:46:08] <Wolf__> would be safe… they make swords for actors as well… lol
[05:50:29] <XXCoder> lol ok :)
[05:50:46] <XXCoder> I do want to try making some scifi and fantasy daggers with my cnc router
[05:51:03] <jthornton> which one do you have?
[05:51:17] <XXCoder> the chinese one
[05:51:35] <XXCoder> you saw pictures and videos of it :) currently in closet and not running :( no room
[05:52:14] <Wolf__> One of the owners of baltimore knife and sword tried to sell me a x-carve the last time I was over there lol
[05:54:54] <XXCoder> xcarve is overpriced drawer turned into cnc
[05:55:04] <XXCoder> fine for some plastics and wood though
[05:55:22] <Wolf__> I’ve never looked at one
[05:57:41] <Wolf__> I forget why the hell kerry has the thing
[06:01:42] <XXCoder> no idea what youre talking about :)
[06:01:55] <Wolf__> the x-carve
[06:03:07] <XXCoder> ahh no idea
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[06:04:34] <Wolf__> BKS (Balt knife and sword) has 3 cnc mills, I think he picked the x-carve up used but never set up
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[07:31:43] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com
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[09:17:44] <jthornton> wow somehow I've used 1/2 my data for the month :(
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[09:19:36] <Jymmm> jthornton: OUCH
[09:19:59] <Jymmm> jthornton: I thiknk you should setup a proxy
[09:20:57] <jthornton> what is a proxy
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[10:08:00] <Jymmm> jthornton: It's basically a "filter" of sorts. But what you might consider is placing a parent filter (on your router) on your machines. You can even setup certain times you can visit certain sites. So even if a website is doing things in the background, you would have to worry about it. Maybe even limit your bandwidht usage right from the router itself. (You cna always turn it off if you need something)
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[10:28:13] <Loetmichel> hmm... $me went to my sister yesterday... seems my lead foot is expensive... 230km to her i floored it (car maxes out at 230kph).... average of 120kmh... 11.2l/100km diesel. And a speed camera flashed (wasnt way to fast though, maybe a 35 eur ticket)... on the way back i put in the cruise control at 110kph, averaging 102kph ... 6,9l/100km according to the trip computer.
[10:30:30] <Wolf__> https://i.imgur.com =D i can relate… except for the ticket part
[10:32:42] <Wolf__> 106kph average speed for 1831km trip
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[12:47:08] <CaptHindsight> jthornton: https://raisedbyturtles.org
[12:48:15] <CaptHindsight> I'd setup rules based on time of day since satellite has capless downloads in the middle of the night...
[12:49:19] <CaptHindsight> I'd also setup daily or even hourly limits since some websites are sneaky and anything winders doesn't give a crap about your data useage
[12:50:24] <CaptHindsight> https://making.pusher.com
[12:51:47] <CaptHindsight> http://www.kevinboone.net
[12:53:42] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: I sugestted the router parental controls, then there's no "per machine" config needed.
[12:54:07] <Jymmm> and many have "time of day" options available
[12:55:21] <CaptHindsight> I like to provide links that people can read since they needs lots of info and I don't want to write abook on IRC
[12:56:18] <CaptHindsight> he needs to monitor his network and find the machines that suck up his limited bandwidth
[12:57:23] <CaptHindsight> he's already done some work, but some software co's and some websites don't give a crap about your bandwidth
[12:57:54] <CaptHindsight> autoplay for videos is a real killer
[12:58:34] <CaptHindsight> ads that stream video for 20 seconds
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[13:02:34] <fragalot> 'sup
[13:05:10] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: I get it
[13:06:09] <Jymmm> theres PRTG fr stuff like that
[13:07:24] <Jymmm> theres also things like ntop
[13:07:45] <Jymmm> and iftop
[13:08:33] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: https://www.tecmint.com
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[13:09:55] <CaptHindsight> he might need some alert that sounds a buzzer when some device on his LAN goes over some hourly limit
[13:10:57] <CaptHindsight> we see crap on the network all the time, makes and breaks connections, sucks up lotsa bits
[13:11:15] <CaptHindsight> bots don't care how much of your bandwidth they suck up
[13:17:49] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: so move them to the cloud instead
[13:21:32] <CaptHindsight> he's in a rural area with little choice for broadband
[13:22:25] <CaptHindsight> last time we moved labs the first question I asked was " what internet providers are there?"
[13:22:55] <CaptHindsight> the real state people were all surprised
[13:24:46] <CaptHindsight> hah real estate even
[13:24:54] <fragalot> Comcast.
[13:25:09] <fragalot> or, there are many choices, but your contract includes comcast to start off with
[13:25:14] <fragalot> but you can try to change it at any time
[13:25:43] <CaptHindsight> I have ATT fiber inches from me, but they don't offer it yet
[13:26:12] <fragalot> still beats australian broadband
[13:26:25] <CaptHindsight> waiting for the new price wars
[13:26:33] <fragalot> saw dave from eevblog do a rant on it a while back, and christ it truly is awful
[13:27:26] <CaptHindsight> sausage makers vs internet providers
[13:28:34] <CaptHindsight> ISP's can teach used car salespeople a thing or two
[13:29:15] <_unreal_> nothing like transfering 100gb
[13:29:42] <CaptHindsight> fragalot: whats basic cable internet run there a month?
[13:29:50] <jthornton> CaptHindsight: thanks
[13:30:13] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: I believe it was around $600ish
[13:31:06] <fragalot> where I am it's €120 a month for 100Mbps down 250Gb/mo
[13:31:11] <fragalot> no idea what up is, but it's so much less
[13:31:55] <CaptHindsight> fragalot: interesting business class service is similar but not capped
[13:33:14] <CaptHindsight> 75/15mbps is $110 USD/mo with taxes and fees
[13:33:37] <CaptHindsight> home service is less but has a monthly cap
[13:34:50] <fragalot> in the netherlands it's a LOT cheaper at €60 a month for 500Mbit symmetric
[13:35:34] <CaptHindsight> like Japan and Korea
[13:38:33] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: they found a way to make things even MORE janky. https://www.youtube.com
[13:39:25] <CaptHindsight> features hardwood bearings and races
[13:41:18] <CaptHindsight> fragalot: if he was a coworker would you quit?
[13:41:31] <fragalot> I wouldn't even have joined in the first place
[13:41:38] <CaptHindsight> or wait for him to be fired
[13:42:13] <CaptHindsight> how do you get anything done with people around like that?
[13:42:36] <fragalot> you don't. but it creates youtube content that he can put online & earn money with instead
[13:42:37] <methods_> more janky than this
[13:42:39] <methods_> https://www.youtube.com
[13:42:44] <methods_> everyone's favorite cnc
[13:42:50] <fragalot> methods_: this is not a contest
[13:42:54] <fragalot> and don't piss on a classic like that
[13:43:00] <methods_> hehehe
[13:43:13] <methods_> definitely a classic
[13:43:47] <methods_> steampunk cnc
[13:45:49] <rmu> WHY
[13:46:02] <CaptHindsight> methods_: how are things there? weather, politics, bathroom signage etc
[13:46:17] <methods_> iz gud
[13:46:21] <methods_> still redneck
[13:46:33] <methods_> life is good in trumpistan
[13:49:13] <fragalot> https://www.youtube.com - CaptHindsight would you want THIS guy to touch your tools at 19:00 ?
[13:49:43] <CaptHindsight> Why you should make useless things | Simone Giertz https://www.youtube.com
[13:49:49] <CaptHindsight> so it's her fault
[13:49:54] <fragalot> hehe
[13:52:57] <CaptHindsight> he meant to say "I defect" but he chickened out and said "a defect"
[13:54:50] <fragalot> lol
[13:55:09] <CaptHindsight> jt needs a <1GHz mesh network for his area
[13:55:38] <CaptHindsight> rural area with hills
[13:56:08] <CaptHindsight> getting people to cooperate is probably not easy
[13:59:30] <_unreal_> I dont want to but with that I can wipe out my system now
[14:00:54] <CaptHindsight> https://imgur.com
[14:01:50] <CaptHindsight> funny but unaware of this rule https://www.machinedesign.com
[14:04:47] <gregcnc> goldmine of information today
[14:06:04] <CaptHindsight> yas cants stop the inenectuleyezin
[14:06:57] <CaptHindsight> time to get out even if it's raining
[14:08:15] <gregcnc> just a bit of heavy fog
[14:17:48] <CaptHindsight> methods_: don't forget your treasured find https://www.thingiverse.com
[14:18:17] <CaptHindsight> still makes me laugh
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[14:29:27] <Loetmichel> gnhihi, just got the copy in the mail: i am now officially 1/8 owner of a small house with 389m^2 land and a second patch of "agricultural" land with 10'050m^2... hope that will yield at least a few kEur when my uncle (main inheritior of my grandma) sells it. the house is built in the 60ties... its pretty much trash by now, never renovated :-)
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[14:34:58] <fragalot> Loetmichel: is it a timeshare in spain?
[14:35:33] <Loetmichel> fragalot: nope, the house of my grandma. right here in cnter germany
[14:38:06] <Loetmichel> she died last year
[14:38:44] <Loetmichel> so i mget the mandatory (by law) inheritance
[14:39:22] <Loetmichel> as my pa is already dead
[14:40:13] <gloops> so, God forbid, any of the other 7 stakeholders should die, do you get their stake Loetmichel?
[14:41:03] <Loetmichel> nope, their chilkdren get
[14:41:22] <Loetmichel> and its only 4 siblings that inherited, one of them my dad
[14:41:44] <Loetmichel> but because my dad hat 2 childs every one of us gets an eight
[14:42:29] <Loetmichel> ah, my sister an me get an eight, the three other siblings of my dad get 1/4 each of course
[14:43:14] <gregcnc> how much does the govt get?
[14:43:54] <fragalot> gregcnc: they don't "get" anything
[14:44:05] <fragalot> they're just loaning Loetmichel a small portion
[14:45:25] <Loetmichel> gregcnc: i have no idea
[14:46:03] <Loetmichel> i imagine the resulting money when the uncle sells the stuff will be below any "Tax free" boundarys though
[14:46:37] <Loetmichel> i expect a few 1000 eur at best
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[15:21:36] <Loetmichel> btw: my sister yesterday when i brought her the "new" notebook and repaired a few of hers: "i am 10 years into IT now, but thats the first time i see someone mending a display hinge with CA glue and baking soda!" ;)
[15:27:43] <Jymmm> it works
[15:31:47] <Loetmichel> it does indeed
[15:32:25] <fragalot> works very well, actually
[15:32:36] <fragalot> i've done that to about 4 laptops in the last year or so
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[15:33:22] <fragalot> the fumes got to me the first time.. really stings, lol
[15:37:12] <Loetmichel> it dies
[15:37:15] <Loetmichel> does
[15:37:25] <Loetmichel> "use only in well ventilated area"
[15:37:41] <Loetmichel> ... i am experienced with those "kicker" sprays for CA though
[15:37:46] <Loetmichel> so i know that effect already
[15:47:29] <fragalot> those are not nearly as bad as the baking powder is
[15:50:46] <CaptHindsight> http://scienceline.ucsb.edu
[15:51:37] <CaptHindsight> Answer 4:
[15:52:30] <Loetmichel> CaptHindsight: indeed
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[16:05:16] <jdh> I did that all the time in the late 70's building model airplanes
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[16:29:42] <_unreal_> I hate waiting for windows updates.... redoing my main computer right now
[16:29:58] <_unreal_> just re-installed so I can image the damn harddrive and get back to fedora
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[16:31:33] <gloops> probably just a fan needs de-fluffing _unreal_
[16:42:58] <Deejay> gn8
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[23:22:52] <SpeedEvil> https://www.copper.org - neat
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