#linuxcnc | Logs for 2019-02-23
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[00:02:38] <Jymmm> battery powered welder... https://www.youtube.com
[00:02:50] <Jymmm> err https://youtu.be
[00:03:05] <Jymmm> https://www.fronius.com
[00:12:42] <XXCoder> tig needs neutal gas correct?
[00:14:30] <Jymmm> $3059
[00:14:37] <Jymmm> Yeah, I believe so
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[00:17:57] <XXCoder> ok
[00:18:14] <XXCoder> in least my memory works for once lol
[00:19:07] <Jymmm> https://shopweldingsupplies.com
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[03:07:17] <Deejay> moin
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[03:45:10] <XXCoder> nice video! https://www.youtube.com
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[04:08:19] <gloops> must be satisfying to make an engine and see it running
[04:10:36] <XXCoder> yeah'
[04:11:29] <XXCoder> i always wanted a stirling engine
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[04:15:07] <XXCoder> video poctured one isnt one but stirling is one i wanted lol
[05:00:12] <Rab> https://sanantonio.craigslist.org
[05:00:31] <Rab> ...the inside-out link belt...
[05:00:53] <XXCoder> weirf
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[05:19:19] <jthornton> morning
[05:19:25] <XXCoder> morning
[05:19:56] <XXCoder> man its annoying
[05:20:11] <XXCoder> weather here is so out of wrack that predictions change quite quick
[05:20:33] <XXCoder> monday was snow all day then now its little bit of sleet at morning then loudy and rain
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[05:23:39] <jthornton> looks like thunderstorms here today then clearing up for a few days
[05:23:51] <jthornton> I'm tired of the muck
[05:24:44] <XXCoder> oh look it changed again. cloudy, light rain, then sleet then cloudy again
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[05:45:17] <jthornton> going to try this out on my rpi https://www.pyimagesearch.com
[05:46:43] <XXCoder> oh yeah I think theres a way to use raspi as voice to text translator? lemme look up
[05:47:16] <jthornton> can it translate chicken to text?
[05:47:22] <XXCoder> lol
[05:47:28] <XXCoder> would be... interesting
[05:49:01] <jthornton> the most interesting thing is chickens know the language at birth and know everything how to take care of themselves
[05:50:58] <XXCoder> i saw that video where chickens stop a cat fight
[05:51:10] <XXCoder> it sure looked like they was mediating between cats
[05:53:16] <XXCoder> oh misremembered its rabbits
[05:53:21] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com
[05:53:36] <XXCoder> cats hmm oh yeah crows literally picked on cats and started fight
[05:55:34] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com
[05:57:21] <XXCoder> its amazing that crows looks like they are cheering cats on
[05:59:19] <XXCoder> there was crows research, they found a human mask that crows didnt react to
[05:59:39] <XXCoder> so masked, one of em annoyed and tried to attack crows bunch of em. crows started attacking
[06:00:01] <XXCoder> second test was pretty far away from orginial locations. crows come in and attacked guy in mask
[06:00:19] <XXCoder> crows have memories, and they tell others to watch out.
[06:05:58] <jthornton> this is a complicated tutorial but well written
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[06:16:10] <jthornton> opencv 4 might be overkill for a chicken camera lol
[06:18:49] <XXCoder> maybe but eh just need camera and raspi so cost dont increase
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[06:27:20] <jthornton> I found one the other day that was ok but just reading about motion and it might be all I need
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[06:32:33] <jthornton> https://elinux.org
[06:32:41] <jthornton> that's the one I found the other day
[06:33:09] <XXCoder> interesting. only supports raspi camera
[06:33:35] <jthornton> yea that's what I have a raspi camera
[06:33:56] <jthornton> I do have one usb camera and it is in the egg collection area of the nest box
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[07:06:30] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com nice
[07:06:35] <XXCoder> i like the idea too
[07:08:32] <jthornton> I like that foam spoil board
[07:08:39] <XXCoder> yeah
[07:08:49] <XXCoder> just keep cutting start fall apert get new one
[07:09:41] <XXCoder> cheap for that thickness also I bet
[07:11:16] <XXCoder> was wondering why he added footer bars ah wheels nice but how about tipping risk
[07:12:26] <jthornton> that's a huge rack
[07:12:45] <XXCoder> yeah thats why i wondered about tipping
[07:14:59] <jthornton> I need one of those right angle drivers lol
[07:15:14] <XXCoder> he has link. $40 dont seem bad for what seems for nice one.
[07:16:40] <XXCoder> brilliant design really.
[07:17:33] <XXCoder> angle comes witrh 6 drills and 4 bits
[07:17:53] <jthornton> I don't like 4 swivel casters on anything, too hard to drive
[07:45:16] <Tom_L> gives it a mind of it's own..
[07:45:49] <XXCoder> 4 wheels pointing to back or front = tipping hazard
[07:49:26] <Loetmichel> yeah, two swivel casters with brakes and two fixed ones without is better
[07:53:05] <Tom_L> hmm looks like more rain on the way
[07:53:14] <Tom_L> at least it's not frozen
[07:54:24] <Tom_L> radar is pretty today. all sorts of greens, yellows reds, pinks, blues...
[07:54:53] <Tom_L> what a mix.
[07:57:34] <Tom_L> hmm, blizzard warning just west of here
[07:57:39] <Tom_L> hope it stays there
[07:58:23] <Tom_L> predicted gusts to 65mph
[08:02:32] <jthornton> rain fizzling out here today yea
[08:02:39] <jthornton> sunny days for a while
[08:03:49] <jthornton> yippie I got the 7i96 configuration tool to install with pip3
[08:05:11] <XXCoder> did you ever make linuxcnc_addons or whatever for tools and configurators you made?
[08:07:04] <jthornton> what do you mean by linuxcnc_addons?
[08:07:26] <XXCoder> remember I suggested you to make new repo package for people who wants additional utilities
[08:07:28] <XXCoder> ones you made
[08:07:36] <XXCoder> ah yes linuxcnc_utils
[08:07:59] <jthornton> I don't remember that
[08:08:08] <XXCoder> it was quite a while ago lol
[08:08:19] <jthornton> https://github.com
[08:08:26] <XXCoder> dont ask me how my memory work, I dont know. lol
[08:08:40] <jthornton> I think I tried to add the 7i96 to linuxcnc once but gave up
[08:09:27] <XXCoder> that might be why we talked about making utility pack
[08:09:45] <XXCoder> so people who has MESA can add utilities to configure it and other stuff
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[09:25:22] <JT-Shop> anyone want to test my 7i96 configuration tool for me? https://github.com
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[10:12:49] <Tom_itx> for the handfull that may use SW i thought this might be appropriate here: https://my.solidworks.com
[10:12:52] <Tom_itx> training videos
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[10:22:15] <Jymmm> When they run an (earth) ground line from a service panel, is it typically 1/4" flex metalic conduit they use?
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[10:29:14] <jthornton> depends on what the code is at your location or like me there is no code
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[10:32:02] <Tom_L> wrong button
[10:33:24] <Jymmm> jthornton: no code? or no code for a ground in your area?
[10:34:18] <Tom_L> i thought they just buried the wire
[10:34:40] <Tom_L> wouldn't you want a local earth ground anyway?
[10:36:15] <JT-Shop> no building codes at all
[10:36:17] <Jymmm> Tom_L: you asking me?
[10:36:28] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: how strange
[10:36:31] <Tom_L> you're asking about earth ground
[10:37:01] <JT-Shop> not really many states don't have state wide code in that case if you live in the city limits you have city code only
[10:38:12] <JT-Shop> I've never seen a ground wire going to a ground rod inside conduit of any kind... if you have potential of mechanical damage yes
[10:38:17] <Jymmm> I'm looking for 1/4in version of this https://www.cesco.com
[10:38:31] <Jymmm> but I' might be searching the wrong term, can't find on homedepot.com
[10:39:24] <Tom_L> https://www.graybar.com
[10:40:30] <gregcnc> 14-2 is the smallest you're likely to find
[10:40:59] <Tom_L> https://www.graybar.com{Trade%20Size%20(Inches):3/8}&{Coil/Reel%20Length%20(Feet):50}
[10:41:10] <Tom_L> 3/8" is likely the smallest you may find
[10:41:57] <Jymmm> Would 3/8 OD be 1/4 ID (or there abouts)?
[10:42:04] <Tom_L> https://www.fastenal.com
[10:42:13] <Tom_L> there's 1/4 if you want 800'
[10:43:11] <Tom_L> that designates the inner diameter
[10:43:59] <Tom_L> Inner Diameter 0.245" - 0.260"
[10:45:31] <gregcnc> stainless even, fancy
[10:45:38] <Tom_L> home depot probably doesn't stock it because it would sit on the shelf
[10:45:56] <Jymmm> gregcnc: Yeah, I noticed that too
[10:46:07] <Jymmm> Tom_L: ah ok
[10:46:16] <Tom_L> https://www.homedepot.com
[10:46:21] <Tom_L> there's 3/8
[10:46:40] <gregcnc> what's this for agian?
[10:46:48] <Tom_L> ground wire
[10:47:02] <Tom_L> i don't think you need it but i could be wrong
[10:47:08] <gregcnc> why not use wire as wire? which is why I'm asking
[10:47:24] <Tom_L> run the bare wire thru it to the access pannel
[10:47:49] <Tom_L> maybe in industrial but not residential
[10:48:43] <Tom_L> run a separate green wire and be done
[10:48:57] <Tom_L> or get 4 cond
[10:49:41] <Jymmm> Ok, well I've seen that smallerish flex conduit, with no wire in it at all, connected from panel, to ground rod before is all.
[10:50:15] <Tom_L> in what environment?
[10:50:20] <Tom_L> that could make a difference
[10:50:28] <Jymmm> residental (older)
[10:51:51] <Jymmm> Maybe it is/was to keep a single wire from physical damage (ie cable tv installers etc)
[10:51:56] <gregcnc> I've seen.... vs, how it should be
[10:52:24] <gregcnc> people do all sorts of crap, even "electricians"
[10:52:25] <Tom_L> i think i just ran a separate green wire to my garage but i ran the lot thru conduit since i used plain coated wire
[10:53:05] <Tom_L> like you would find in a machine enclosure etc
[10:53:08] <Jymmm> I think conduit was used because it could take more potential abuse than a single wire could.
[10:54:25] <Jymmm> Kinda like this https://i.stack.imgur.com
[10:54:26] <Tom_L> if you're running new, i'd run them all together in one conduit otherwise run a green wire thru your metal jacket
[10:54:55] <Tom_L> that's because it's exposed
[10:55:06] <Tom_L> are you running it thru a wall or exposed?
[10:55:49] <Jymmm> no, it's just something I saw but NO WIRE in the conduit at all
[10:56:20] <Jymmm> panel straight to grounding rod.
[10:56:26] <Tom_L> depending on the metal you may need a bi metal paste
[10:56:43] <Tom_L> remember all the 70's house fires?
[10:56:47] <Tom_L> due to aluminum wiring
[10:57:39] <Jymmm> https://www.diychatroom.com
[10:58:26] <Tom_L> that's not a copper wire on that screw on the right?
[10:58:27] <gregcnc> cheaper than braided copper
[10:58:56] <Tom_L> otherwise the clamp holding the jacket would be enough
[10:59:20] <Tom_L> your first pic could have copper inside too
[11:00:03] <Jymmm> gregcnc: I have soem 1" of that too, but then I'd use copper buss bars for that (RF transmitter)
[11:00:23] <Jymmm> totally different application there
[11:02:25] <gregcnc> https://www.nachi.org
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[11:03:50] <Tom_L> That flexible metal conduit should not be there, it creates all kinds of problems.
[11:04:28] <Tom_L> I would be interested in hearing some history on flex also, but I think that might be armored covered bare conductor
[11:04:39] <Tom_L> that's what i thought i saw in your 2nd pic
[11:10:42] <Tom_L> gregcnc, half those are probably not making electrical connection anyway
[11:11:19] <Jymmm> Tom_L: you want info /history on the conduit ground or tech details on grounding (I have a tech document on grounds for transmitters which goes way over my head)
[11:11:44] <Tom_L> no, my grounds are well grounded :)
[11:12:38] <Tom_L> i'm glad they are grounded though because i was stanind ~20' from a tower when it got hit
[11:12:39] <Jymmm> heh, ok. Yeah grounds for a 1KW transmitter get... intense
[11:13:33] <Tom_L> i watched it jump over the insulators on the support wires
[11:16:34] <Jymmm> Oh this doc goes into lighting supression etc, like I said above my paygrade
[11:23:56] <gregcnc> https://www.garagejournal.com
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[11:49:40] <Jymmm> Well, I really wasn't looking at it for gorunding just wasn't sure of the term used to describe the 3/8 (which I wasn't sire if ID or OD) so I thought it was 1/4"
[11:50:17] <Jymmm> I'm looking to run a heat strip inside FMC is all, don't now if I need 50ft, though =)
[11:50:30] <Jymmm> Maybe I'll hit the restore and see what they have
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[11:51:24] <Jymmm> This looks BIG https://www.homedepot.com
[11:51:38] <Jymmm> or at least bigger than what I was talking about.
[11:52:08] <Jymmm> Is this 3/8??? https://www.diychatroom.com
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[12:14:46] <gloops> .
[12:15:38] <gloops> damn! leaking stupid plastic isolation tap on heating, drained it all off, took valve off, sorted the stupid plastic crap out, replaced , filled up
[12:15:51] <gloops> ive put the stupid valve back back to front
[12:19:06] <Jymmm> gloops: heating???
[12:22:49] <gloops> yeah central heating, its ok i just flipped it round live lol
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[12:24:46] <Jymmm> gloops: mini split?
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[12:25:50] <gloops> its just a tap with a plastic handle - for filling the boiler, like you have for a washing machine connection, i didnt realise it also had a non return valve inside it
[12:26:06] <gloops> so back to front - it wont fill the boiler
[12:26:39] <gloops> takes longer to drain off though, i just whipped it off and lost a bit of water rather than drain again
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[12:29:43] <Jymmm> ah
[12:35:15] <Loetmichel> re at home from work. And tomorrow again a full day (probably more). THIS time its my own fault... Told the customer:" delivery monday in 2 weeks? should work..." now i have to drive 400km to the customer on monday to hold that promise... Here's hoping that i dont botch something tomorrow and really have the two 19" 2u enclosures ready monday morning. :-)
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[12:37:59] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: the dog ate it... DUH
[12:38:59] <Loetmichel> Jymmm: i doubt the customer would like that ;)
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[12:42:17] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: Was "act of canine" included in their specifications?
[12:43:13] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: If not, it's their own damn fault, and just upsell em =)
[12:43:38] <Loetmichel> no, the "specs" was "make it like the last one, just fitting THIS server please" ;)
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[13:16:42] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: Then their fault!!!
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[17:23:43] <Deejay> gn8
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[18:33:15] <gloops> https://i.pinimg.com nice chair
[18:34:42] <XXCoder> perfectly barbarian chair
[18:35:04] <XXCoder> i hate hosting sites that inject graphics
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[18:38:22] <gloops> well time for bed here anyway
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[18:56:10] <SpeedEvil> XXCoder: extra points if it's sculpted to be comfortable for one person
[19:04:02] <XXCoder> lol indeed
[19:04:19] <XXCoder> "if you sit without figeting for 10 hours yiu are the new kjing"
[19:04:27] <XXCoder> *you *king
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[19:39:32] <MacGalempsy> good evening
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[20:13:48] <XXCoder> watching 1985 fiero restoration, fanastic series so far! dunno why i kept putting it off.
[20:16:10] <Jymmm> Eh, they only go 160, but it feels like 70 when they do
[20:16:39] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com it was driven for while then left in backyard for 20 years
[20:16:50] <XXCoder> so theres bunch of issues due to that
[20:18:55] <Jymmm> Issues? It's a mid engine no roll cgae foberglass body that can do 160, not sure what issues you mean ;)
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[20:19:50] <XXCoder> lol
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[20:19:55] <XXCoder> hey Tom_itx
[20:20:02] <Tom_itx> what's up?
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[20:20:21] <Tom_L> working on an outlet, had to power down
[20:27:13] <Jymmm> Tom_L: Turing a 15a into a 50A for that new oil cooled computer?
[20:29:26] <Tom_L> uh huh
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[20:51:55] <XXCoder> "i found solution from site that was actually posted in 1996 I was just 6 months old" Oh... (feels creaky and ancient)
[20:55:24] <Tom_L> you must have felt the world was gonna end in Y2K then
[20:56:07] <Tom_L> Jymmm did you know ppl that stockpiled for that?
[20:56:14] <Tom_L> i knew a couple
[21:05:30] <XXCoder> tom nah didnt bother to do anything
[21:06:04] <XXCoder> knew it wouldnt be that big an issue
[21:06:06] <XXCoder> and it wasnt
[21:06:18] <XXCoder> now if old unix time rollover happens..
[21:06:23] <XXCoder> 2048 something I think
[21:08:17] <Jymmm> Tom_L: I stocked piled... the cash =) I made a buttload of money during the y2k crap in IT =)
[21:08:57] <Jymmm> Tom_L: But yeah, I knew a few. I did some things, but that was in general, not due to y2k
[21:15:32] <Tom_L> yeah i bet that would have been a good time to be in IT
[21:15:54] <XXCoder> 2000 to 2005 or so was great
[21:16:01] <XXCoder> then .net bubble crashed
[21:16:04] <Jymmm> The dot bomb
[21:16:46] <Jymmm> XXCoder: at it was the "dot com", not M$ .net ;)
[21:16:59] <XXCoder> bah yeah lol
[21:17:13] <XXCoder> my mind mixed up between those
[21:17:31] <Jymmm> no worries
[21:19:19] <Jymmm> Tom_L: Now, Ive just up'ed my game a bit. power, heat, water,
[21:21:21] <Jymmm> Tom_L: Did you ever look at that generator? gas/propane
[21:22:09] <Tom_L> which?
[21:22:20] <Tom_L> mine is on gas
[21:22:34] <Tom_L> likely will leave it as is at least for now
[21:22:43] <Jymmm> Tom_L: https://www.amazon.com
[21:23:31] <Tom_L> cheap enough
[21:23:44] <Tom_L> shipping might kill it
[21:24:04] <Jymmm> free shipping
[21:24:12] <Tom_L> not amazon prime?
[21:24:20] <Tom_L> did you get one?
[21:24:23] <Jymmm> nope
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[21:24:47] <Jymmm> No prime, yes I have had it for aout a year, been looking at it for 7 years
[21:25:03] <Tom_L> why so long?
[21:25:27] <Jymmm> Wasn't CARB (california epa) approved, it is now
[21:25:34] <Tom_L> oh
[21:25:58] <Tom_L> mine's a tiny big bigger than that one
[21:26:02] <Jymmm> It's quieter than some other gens too.
[21:26:13] <Tom_L> what engine is it?
[21:26:24] <Jymmm> some 7hp china thing
[21:26:29] <Tom_L> huh
[21:26:39] <Tom_L> no name brand like honda etc
[21:26:51] <Jymmm> The company is out of Southern California
[21:27:55] <Tom_L> did you get a twistloc plug for yours?
[21:28:15] <Tom_L> i made an adapter to plug into my welder outlet in the garage
[21:28:36] <Jymmm> Tom_L: It came with one actually
[21:30:33] <Jymmm> Tom_L: The gen came with a L14-30P which was surprising
[21:30:54] <Jymmm> I just wired it up to cable I already had
[21:31:19] <Tom_L> not sure what mine is but it looks similar
[21:31:54] <Tom_L> and i've got a welder extension cord i double up to use for this when needed
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[23:35:41] <Contract_Pilot> Sup all been a while life happens
[23:36:21] <XXCoder> life happened, is happening heh
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