#linuxcnc | Logs for 2019-02-25

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[00:29:04] <XXCoder> lol pretty dangerous! https://www.youtube.com
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[01:18:21] <Jymmm> XXCoder: Which part, the planer?
[01:18:34] <XXCoder> and grinding
[01:18:39] <XXCoder> so much microdust
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[01:34:15] <Contract_Pilot> Sup.
[01:35:39] <Contract_Pilot> Be intresting to see the development and what low cost board is being used. https://www.youtube.com
[01:37:36] <CaptHindsight> inputs that trigger M-codes?
[01:39:40] <CaptHindsight> something similar https://www.amazon.com
[01:40:48] <CaptHindsight> https://numato.com
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[01:43:49] <XXCoder> pretty cool https://www.youtube.com
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[01:46:06] <CaptHindsight> swap water for hydroelectric acid, play over lap for much sucess
[01:46:33] <XXCoder> lol
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[02:12:08] <Wolf__> syyl_: that alibi cad software, looks like the workflow is similar to solid works?
[02:12:38] <Wolf__> s/alibi/alibre
[02:32:31] <syyl_> yes Wolf__
[02:32:39] <syyl_> a lot like a proper, classic cad ;)
[02:32:47] <syyl_> to me it feels a lot like proengineer
[02:33:11] <Wolf__> as much as I want to I cant seem to get F360 workflow to work in my head lol
[02:35:03] <Wolf__> guess I have been using solid works too long, which version of Alibre are you playing with?
[02:35:21] <syyl_> the most recent expert version
[02:36:26] <Wolf__> spendy but not solid works spendy lol
[02:36:54] <syyl_> just buying solid works would be the simplest way to go
[02:36:55] <syyl_> but
[02:36:58] <syyl_> €€€€€
[02:37:13] <Wolf__> yup
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[02:38:52] <Wolf__> expert is few grand less then basic SW I think
[02:39:45] <syyl_> i think a basic SW license is around 5k
[02:43:44] <Wolf__> one thing I dont see anywhere is cam output =/
[02:43:55] <syyl_> no its just a cad package
[02:44:39] <Wolf__> https://www.alibre.com
[02:44:46] <Wolf__> I spoke too soon
[02:44:51] <syyl_> yes, but thats expensive
[02:44:55] <syyl_> stinkn expensive :D
[02:45:14] <syyl_> condacam integrates also into alibre
[02:45:19] <syyl_> and is affordable
[02:47:26] <Wolf__> hmm that seems to be missing one thing, english =D
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[02:52:15] <Wolf__> at least right now for paying shop work oddly I can get away with drawing up parts in inkscape because everything is plasma table work
[02:52:55] <syyl_> if that works out, nothign wrong with it :)
[02:53:02] <syyl_> i liked qcad and librecad for 2d work
[02:54:15] <Wolf__> https://mecsoft.com doesnt look too bad for a pricing standpoint
[02:55:07] <syyl_> alibre atom3d is very interesting
[02:55:23] <syyl_> its powerfull and has almost everything i need
[02:57:25] <Wolf__> yeah, I might look at it myself, atom3d + the xpress cam giving 2.5D milling doesnt sounds like a bad combo for low cost
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[03:04:02] <Deejay> moin
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[03:23:37] <Contract_Pilot> https://www.amazon.com
[03:25:36] <Contract_Pilot> CaptHindsight, Ebay lot cheaper..
[03:25:48] <Contract_Pilot> But takes weeks..
[03:26:02] <XXCoder> ie from china which might be discard from failing qa test
[03:26:35] <Contract_Pilot> Yea, but the person has not released code so?? would be a DIY thing.
[03:28:16] <Wolf__> hey Contract_Pilot, forgot to tell ya, finally single point threaded something on the lathe, drive screw worked perfect
[03:28:48] <XXCoder> way to go Wolf__
[03:29:17] <Contract_Pilot> M shop has 14 chicks in it right now had 15 but one died!! http://73.37.100.238
[03:29:30] <Contract_Pilot> Wolf cool..
[03:29:42] <Contract_Pilot> the one i sent ya?
[03:29:47] <Wolf__> yup
[03:29:55] <XXCoder> Contract_Pilot: interesting video
[03:30:00] <Contract_Pilot> Sweet glas it worked out for ya.
[03:30:13] <XXCoder> something jt'd do if he had better internet access
[03:30:48] <XXCoder> wolf what was you making>?
[03:31:19] <Wolf__> nothing special yet, test cut thread for new arbor for tapmatic
[03:31:30] <Contract_Pilot> Shop Stalker is like Chicken Nuggets. http://www.stevenrhine.com
[03:33:26] <Contract_Pilot> I been busy with life so not been on.
[03:33:37] <Contract_Pilot> rarley set foot in the shop in 2018
[03:33:55] <Wolf__> https://i.imgur.com did get a few other upgrades done on the lathe as well
[03:34:09] <Wolf__> new motor, VFD
[03:34:47] <Wolf__> I was busy as hell in 2018, so far have had the last 2 months off tho
[03:34:57] <Contract_Pilot> But dis inherit 3 ducks http://www.stevenrhine.com
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[03:35:32] <Contract_Pilot> They are happy and stared producing 2-3 eggs a day..
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[03:37:08] <Contract_Pilot> Wolf Cool deal i changed VFd's from Hitachi wj200 to a Emmerson on the lathe... Like it much better so much more quiet.
[03:37:14] <Wolf__> lol your shop needs/wants list looks like mine
[03:37:24] <Contract_Pilot> LOL
[03:37:49] <Wolf__> I went with cheap china vfd, not the best but works
[03:38:03] <Wolf__> I need tts holders badly
[03:38:23] <Wolf__> and want a better power drawbar setup on my mill
[03:39:29] <Contract_Pilot> https://www.youtube.com still some work to do.,
[03:40:16] <Wolf__> did find these vs a Haimer https://3dtesterusa.com
[03:40:56] <Contract_Pilot> About the same price though.
[03:41:26] <Wolf__> one of them is specific for setting up lathe tooling
[03:43:33] <Wolf__> top of my list is fix my house then attempt to get permit for new shop building on my property
[03:43:35] <Contract_Pilot> http://www.stevenrhine.com
[03:44:26] <Contract_Pilot> I got that welder while back smoking deal.
[03:45:29] <Wolf__> nice, except I dont like lincoln welders lol
[03:45:48] <Wolf__> we have had nothing but trouble with the one we have at the shop
[03:48:56] <Wolf__> on the other hand, my near 15yr old miller 210 wont stop (actually surprised that I haven’t killed it yet)
[03:52:26] <Contract_Pilot> I have miller also
[03:52:51] <Wolf__> I still need to fix my damn miller 200dx
[03:53:12] <Contract_Pilot> http://www.stevenrhine.com
[03:53:49] <Contract_Pilot> Older Dynasty get on ti nutrulize the acid from them leakey caps asa.
[03:54:44] <Contract_Pilot> My 3756-Xtream Plasma http://www.stevenrhine.com
[03:54:55] <Wolf__> https://i.imgur.com I haven’t noticed any leaky caps
[03:55:49] <Wolf__> did you get that thing working again?
[04:04:57] <Contract_Pilot> Yep.
[04:05:07] <Contract_Pilot> Got it working back about Aug.
[04:06:02] <Contract_Pilot> http://www.stevenrhine.com
[04:09:09] <Wolf__> nice, little plasma box
[04:10:41] <Wolf__> my old powermax is still working, had to get a new torch tho https://i.imgur.com picked up the mini because we had deadlines to keep
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[04:15:19] <XXCoder> wb jt-m[m]
[04:15:24] <XXCoder> jthornton:
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[04:16:44] <syyl_> those are mady by tschorn, Wolf__
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[04:17:46] <syyl_> https://www.tschorn-gmbh.de
[04:18:51] <XXCoder> lol this old tony.. shows block of steel and says "machine stem cells"
[04:26:49] <Wolf__> syyl_: is that good or bad =D
[04:29:42] <Contract_Pilot> Yea, i got the miller for less than a banjamin.
[04:30:04] <Contract_Pilot> Whats p with your 200DX?
[04:31:23] <Wolf__> low output issue, service manual is pointing to bad hall sensor or something
[04:31:35] <Contract_Pilot> Hummm
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[04:58:55] <jthornton> morning
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[05:39:26] <jthornton> finally got windblows 7 to print had to do an update
[05:42:48] <XXCoder> :)
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[05:55:58] <gloops> hmm, slightly dubious about this chinese panel raising set on 1/4 shanks!
[05:59:22] <gloops> 65mm diamter cutter, quite heavy, shank looks pretty unsubstantial for this at 12000 rpm
[06:00:36] <Rab> 65mm on 1/4" shank? Haha wow
[06:02:04] <gloops> i expected some little lightweight thing, its a full blown panel raising set, think ill be wearing gum shield when i test these lol
[06:04:43] <jthornton> now if I can get windblows xp to work...
[06:05:56] <jthornton> wow a 2 1/2" cutter on 1/4" shank... that's a bit insane
[06:07:48] <gloops> ill try it with a fence, now way would i let that rip in with a full cut, just take it in a few mm at a time
[06:08:39] <gloops> https://www.ebay.co.uk
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[06:11:36] <jthornton> yea that is bit raised panel bit for 1/4"
[06:11:45] <jthornton> cheap enough though
[06:12:22] <gloops> its to try in cnc router, its only got er11 collet though so cant use half inch shank
[06:12:31] <gloops> ill try it manually first
[06:12:59] <jthornton> yea er11 is pretty small I have some er11 holders for my vmc
[06:15:34] <gloops> might be ok for now, if its cnc i can make it take light passes, im going to get a bigger spindle at some point anyway
[06:16:47] <jthornton> you ever get a photo of your machine?
[06:17:39] <gloops> i put some on a while back, had a few vids - not much of the whole machine
[06:18:38] <gloops> https://www.youtube.com
[06:18:45] <gloops> thats when i was building it
[06:20:12] <gloops> https://www.youtube.com thats the vertical surface
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[06:22:04] <jthornton> cool
[06:23:38] <gloops> its still managing to work after year so i must have got something right lol
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[06:25:07] <Tom_itx> hello
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[06:25:53] <gloops> morning
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[06:31:19] <Tom_L> i think that's the first i've seen your mill move
[06:31:28] <Tom_L> looks like it's doing ok
[06:33:46] <jthornton> morning
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[06:35:26] <gloops> its a bit underpowered and undergunned, but it does move in a fairly straight line lol
[06:40:04] <jthornton> do you use a vacuum to hold the part?
[06:49:41] <gloops> no not got any vacuum, i usually just screw things down to the spoilboard, or screw them to a back board and screw that down
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[07:46:22] <XXCoder> jthornton: seems weather is finally stabilizing
[07:46:34] <XXCoder> it went south so maybe little bit of snow but wont be much lol
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[07:57:16] <jthornton> I was hoping we might dry out a bit but more rain on the way later this week
[07:58:23] <XXCoder> its mostly sunny here for a week
[07:58:31] <XXCoder> man this year is full of weather abormalities
[07:58:45] <XXCoder> normally i forget what dry road looks like
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[09:04:08] <PL7icnc> Is the Mesa Guy around here ? i guess it is pcw
[09:04:20] <PL7icnc> as he answers most on the Forum
[09:05:24] <PL7icnc> pcw_home, Are You Sir Online
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[11:04:04] <CaptHindsight> some could clue PL7icnc in to how IRC works
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[11:26:58] <skunkworks> he gave a good 10 minutes... What more do you want?
[11:30:13] * Jymmm wants a 1/4 male to 3/4 male brass fitting
[11:36:05] <jdh> make one!
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[12:03:06] <Jymmm> jdh: Right after I get a lathe,
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[12:17:48] <jdh> threadmill
[12:18:14] <jdh> might be easier to assemble some parta though
[12:18:56] <Jymmm> That's what I'm doing, but not my choice... Dont' need a 20 inch long "adapter"
[12:21:46] <jdh> I could do it with tube/pipe fittings.
[12:28:12] <Jymmm> jdh: I did it, just not happy about it... https://i.imgur.com
[12:29:09] <jdh> not bad
[12:29:42] <Jymmm> Spent like $20 in couples alone, just because I couldn't locate the right fittings
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[14:26:10] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: https://www.youtube.com
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[14:31:19] <miss0r> fragalot: Three hours into a part - set the wrong depth of a cut. scrap!
[14:32:23] <methods_> ouch
[14:32:34] <fragalot> miss0r: >.<
[14:32:57] <miss0r> worst part is; it was three hours of manual machining :]
[14:33:10] <fragalot> at least it's only the part?
[14:33:23] <methods_> you can't weld it up and save it?
[14:33:26] <CaptHindsight> >12k views in the first few hours, where was this posted?
[14:33:37] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: patreon first, probably
[14:33:37] <methods_> that's a lot of time to just toss out
[14:33:56] <miss0r> methods_: Nah.. not even if I wanted to. Its 42CrMo4
[14:34:02] <fragalot> miss0r: JB weld.
[14:34:13] <miss0r> uploading picture
[14:34:31] * miss0r slaps fragalot with a JB weld molded hand
[14:34:40] * fragalot dies
[14:35:54] <miss0r> https://imgur.com
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[14:36:04] <miss0r> I managed to fsck up the depth of those splines
[14:36:21] <miss0r> even though I did two test pieces first, which turned out perfect :D
[14:36:35] <fragalot> miss0r: is it worth trying to sleeve them?
[14:36:59] <fragalot> guessing it isn't, as that spline looks like it took the longest
[14:36:59] <miss0r> nah. this is a high stress axle - I don't want to be taking any chances
[14:37:38] <fragalot> if it's a high stress axle, why do you have those sharp edges at the end of the taper eh?
[14:37:49] <miss0r> I have a friend that works a cnc lathe. He will cut 10 axles for me for a small price.
[14:37:54] <miss0r> because this was just a test :D
[14:38:11] <miss0r> I'm hoping the transition when done of the cnc lathe will be quite smooth
[14:38:25] <fragalot> only as smooth as you ask it to be
[14:38:36] <miss0r> I ask alot :D
[14:38:51] <fragalot> and you're not joking with the high torque part, that old shaft looks like it twisted already
[14:39:00] <gloops> spin it up and get half round file on bottom of taper
[14:39:31] <miss0r> fragalot: It did.
[14:39:48] <miss0r> gloops: Lots of options :)
[14:39:53] <miss0r> I'm going with the cnc one
[14:40:08] <fragalot> what is this for that you need 10pcs?
[14:40:31] <miss0r> Part of the land rover steering :)
[14:40:50] <miss0r> and I am just doing a small batch at first - to sell at a low price to the community
[14:41:12] <miss0r> The aftermarket parts are made of chinesium - you don't want chinesium being the only thing connecting your steering wheel to the tires
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[14:41:32] <CaptHindsight> I knew it was just for wood https://youtu.be
[14:41:44] <fragalot> miss0r: I see :D
[14:42:36] <miss0r> fragalot: Actualy: I can compete with the price of the aftermarket unit.
[14:43:03] <miss0r> but I don't make it by pressing together old cans in a mold..
[14:43:37] <fragalot> you can, but can your cnc friend? :D
[14:44:09] <gloops> free wheeling hubs used to be a thing with old landies, surely everyone must have fitted those by now though
[14:44:11] <miss0r> yeah. we agreed on a quite nice price.
[14:44:27] <miss0r> gloops: and alot have removed them again
[14:44:33] <CaptHindsight> we need a Dunning Kruger IRC channel to test out ideas for Kickstarter
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[14:44:48] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: a who?
[14:45:05] <CaptHindsight> https://en.wikipedia.org
[14:45:27] <fragalot> I see
[14:45:29] <miss0r> if you do alot of read driving, you safe fuel - sure. but the front dif/ball joints ect. hardly ever gets to rotate, so once you have to use it, it have issues with lubrication & the axle seals start to leak
[14:45:37] <CaptHindsight> https://cdn-images-1.medium.com*t2sx5h0UF-kljgC2sj2msw.jpeg
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[14:48:59] <miss0r> that pocket NC is quite cool, I must admit.
[14:49:11] <miss0r> if you only do light duty cutting/soft materials
[14:49:21] <miss0r> but it opens alot of possibilities
[14:49:34] <CaptHindsight> how about CAM?
[14:49:53] <CaptHindsight> what do they recommend?
[14:50:02] <gregcnc> johnnyq90 has a big following on yt
[14:50:12] <gregcnc> fusion
[14:50:13] <miss0r> CaptHindsight: I don't know
[14:51:20] <CaptHindsight> https://www.pocketnc.com
[14:51:52] <gregcnc> sounds like a trip to the dentist
[14:52:14] <CaptHindsight> cuts dental models
[14:52:43] <CaptHindsight> https://www.datron.com
[14:52:43] <gregcnc> dang there is now a 8500USD version
[14:53:08] <gregcnc> including a year of F360 ultimate
[14:53:12] <CaptHindsight> $50k
[14:55:13] <fragalot> gregcnc: is that the free year they include?
[14:55:32] <CaptHindsight> https://www.pocketnc.com
[14:56:19] <CaptHindsight> having shipped over 700 units, Pocket NC is continuing to develop new products
[14:57:10] <miss0r> I wonder how accurate you can expect that thing to be
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[14:57:40] <CaptHindsight> miss0r: don't ruin the mood by getting all technical :)
[14:57:44] <fragalot> about as accurate as your average chinesium stepper motor runout is?
[14:57:49] <fragalot> because it looks like that is their spindle
[14:58:05] <fragalot> Repeatability: +/-0.002 in at 0% load
[14:58:06] <miss0r> CaptHindsight: Hehe, sorry about that
[14:58:25] <fragalot> so, 51µm repeatability
[14:58:27] <miss0r> fragalot: Repeatability is eazy
[14:58:43] <miss0r> I want positioning accuracy
[14:58:44] <CaptHindsight> repeated runout
[14:59:23] <CaptHindsight> i think the buyers use it for apps that don't require precision
[14:59:23] <fragalot> miss0r: well it homes to 0.00005in, has 0.00005 backlash, deflects 0.001in, and repeats to 0.002
[14:59:37] <CaptHindsight> or wouldn't know it if it hit them in the head
[14:59:41] <miss0r> so.. they don't want to say
[14:59:53] <CaptHindsight> they just have $10k to spare for a mill
[15:00:11] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: jewelers doing lost wax stuff would be fine with this thing
[15:00:20] <fragalot> it's compact, low power, and "good enough"
[15:00:31] <miss0r> CaptHindsight: For that price I can get a quite nice small sized 5-axis machine on the used marked. (if we accept the pocket NC is micro size)
[15:00:53] <miss0r> Pocket NC "If you don't mind finishing the surface with a file"
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[15:01:11] <fragalot> "for tumbled parts only"
[15:01:12] <fragalot> :D
[15:01:12] <CaptHindsight> businesses favor new over used for tax and lease purposes
[15:01:32] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: plus it's plug'n'pray
[15:01:40] <miss0r> unless its my buisness. I just looooove old stuff :-/
[15:01:45] * miss0r is poor :D
[15:01:58] <fragalot> you're poor because you're not doing the tax & lease stuff :P
[15:01:59] <CaptHindsight> 700 x $8k = 5.6 millions
[15:02:10] <fragalot> invest money you don't have, it's the way forward
[15:02:23] <miss0r> fragalot: Indeed it is :D
[15:02:31] <CaptHindsight> for a 10 person business
[15:02:37] <miss0r> But I've always liked the buisness model, where I don't ow anyone anything
[15:02:59] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: so, basically, they run break-even?
[15:03:16] <CaptHindsight> they try
[15:03:16] <miss0r> fragalot: Not every one gets your salary..
[15:03:22] <miss0r> :D
[15:03:30] <fragalot> miss0r: :3
[15:03:34] <CaptHindsight> https://sim.pocketnc.com
[15:03:49] <CaptHindsight> simulate some steel being cut
[15:03:59] <miss0r> anywho.. I don't feel like doing more machine stuff tonight - I will go kill some virtual nazis instead :D see you around
[15:04:14] <miss0r> spray'n'pray
[15:04:27] <fragalot> miss0r: assuming you sell those machines, how many do you think you need to sell to pay 10 people decent wages from the sales margin ?
[15:04:50] <miss0r> more than 700, that is for sure
[15:05:02] <CaptHindsight> 5-axis cnc airbrush that size
[15:05:12] <miss0r> anyway, I am out. see you around
[15:05:17] <fragalot> cya
[15:05:37] <fragalot> that online simulator is kinda neat
[15:06:04] <CaptHindsight> the travels are pretty short on that...
[15:06:15] <fragalot> shame you can't edit the code online
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[15:07:08] <CaptHindsight> i can see making that with a much better spindle
[15:07:32] <gregcnc> initially they were going to use an NSK
[15:07:59] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: I do wonder how much better that exact machine would be if they used a better spindle
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[15:08:40] <CaptHindsight> is there a Chinese version?
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[15:09:29] <CaptHindsight> 700 is just less than 2 per day
[15:09:42] <fragalot> that's probably over 2 years
[15:09:44] <gregcnc> not yet?
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[15:10:00] <CaptHindsight> ah yeah 1 a day
[15:10:06] <gloops> do not underestimate chinas ability to produce quality items at low cost
[15:10:17] <gloops> look at these i got today https://www.ebay.co.uk
[15:10:17] <fragalot> gloops: they can if they care
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[15:10:40] <CaptHindsight> do not underestimate what others in this room are aware of
[15:10:48] <Deejay> grumbfx, damn nickserv
[15:10:52] <gloops> 65mm panel raiser on 1/4 inch shanke - full panel set for £20!
[15:11:06] <fragalot> gloops: you overpaid.
[15:11:12] <gloops> lol
[15:11:16] <fragalot> ;)
[15:11:38] <gloops> i took the panel raiser up to 3000k earlier ..then hit stop
[15:11:49] <gloops> err 3000rpm
[15:12:01] <CaptHindsight> https://www.alibaba.com
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[15:13:55] <CaptHindsight> must be for whale teeth https://www.alibaba.com
[15:14:11] <fragalot> lmao
[15:16:48] <CaptHindsight> Apple found some Chinese 5-axis unit to make ipod cases
[15:17:05] <CaptHindsight> think they had 10's of thousands of them
[15:17:14] <gregcnc> really?
[15:17:29] <CaptHindsight> yeah, they machined those cases
[15:18:24] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: have you pre-ordered the samsung fold yet?
[15:18:28] <fragalot> :P
[15:18:47] <gregcnc> https://www.kickstarter.com
[15:18:56] <CaptHindsight> no, I'm waiting for the window shade version 27"
[15:19:03] <fragalot> also, picking up super strong magnets feels weird if you have metal shavings stuck in your fingers
[15:20:01] <gregcnc> that was to ship oct
[15:20:07] <fragalot> put another way: turns out i have some small metal shavings stuck in my thumb :P
[15:21:29] <fragalot> gregcnc: yea but they didn't really get much from their kickstarter
[15:21:44] <gregcnc> not a mountain of money
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[15:23:26] <fragalot> at least the updates show actual parts being made
[15:25:03] <CaptHindsight> https://www.kickstarter.com
[15:25:22] <CaptHindsight> shipped ~5 units and had a demo at some NYC 3d print show
[15:25:40] <CaptHindsight> they can't actually ship since the resin costs too much
[15:26:58] <fragalot> neat idea, poor pricing
[15:28:05] <gregcnc> so they just wait until resin becomes affordable?
[15:28:14] <CaptHindsight> https://www.reddit.com
[15:28:26] <CaptHindsight> seems like a scam from day 1
[15:28:34] <CaptHindsight> we sent them resin 2 years ago
[15:28:44] <fragalot> you can tell that by the amount of logos they had on the kickstarter page
[15:29:19] <CaptHindsight> they called us back 2 weeks ago not remembering
[15:30:27] <gregcnc> lol all new people or?
[15:30:43] <CaptHindsight> the other partner
[15:30:51] <CaptHindsight> 2 main guys
[15:31:29] <CaptHindsight> similar with that salt water SLA printer
[15:31:46] <CaptHindsight> one partner built a house with the funds
[15:32:27] <gregcnc> nice
[15:32:43] <CaptHindsight> https://3dprint.com
[15:35:04] <CaptHindsight> http://kickscammed.com hasa big list
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[15:44:26] <CaptHindsight> $4700 for that Swissmak
[15:45:53] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com Milling the X boxways for a SwissMak
[15:46:08] <gregcnc> i couldn't understand how they sold those with virtually no information about the control
[15:46:35] <gregcnc> he got a lot of flak on PM for that design
[15:46:49] <CaptHindsight> if you are so new to CNC you don't even think of it
[15:47:13] <gregcnc> he designed that thing for a college thesis
[15:48:02] <CaptHindsight> 6061 frame
[15:50:44] <CaptHindsight> he should use concrete
[15:51:34] <gregcnc> 1 or 2 persons lifting it was a design criteria
[15:51:52] <gregcnc> millions of people will now have access to multi axis cnc machine
[15:52:20] <CaptHindsight> for soft materials
[15:52:44] <CaptHindsight> is there that much a demand for that?
[15:53:15] <CaptHindsight> 5-axis cnc for plastics
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[15:54:11] <gregcnc> A lot of people get caught up in small machines
[15:54:33] <CaptHindsight> vs a cnc glue gun
[15:54:50] <CaptHindsight> which is more practical?
[15:54:56] <gregcnc> this guy just took it to the next level
[15:55:37] <CaptHindsight> $999 plastic knob maker
[15:56:09] <gregcnc> a lathe or mill takes much more to get going and be productive
[15:56:15] <CaptHindsight> FDM vs SLS vs CNC for small plastic parts
[15:56:31] <CaptHindsight> the showdown begins
[15:56:34] <gregcnc> newbs have no idea anyway
[15:56:43] <gregcnc> as far what is needed to make what
[15:57:23] <fragalot> CaptHindsight: why not an FDM with exchangable RC motor spindle
[15:57:31] <fragalot> and a laser module
[15:57:53] <CaptHindsight> cake icing extruder
[15:58:01] <fragalot> chocolate.
[15:58:31] <CaptHindsight> vs low volume injection molding
[15:58:41] <gloops> those cakes machines are mesmerising to watch
[15:59:08] <gregcnc> https://youtu.be
[15:59:28] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com
[16:01:37] <CaptHindsight> and my Dunkin doughnuts manages to get syrup all over the outside of the cups
[16:02:33] <CaptHindsight> i think that there is a market for custom printed chocolates and candies for fund raisers
[16:03:00] <CaptHindsight> your name a face on it when under 12
[16:03:40] <CaptHindsight> or design the chocolate with your phone
[16:05:01] <gregcnc> image relief chocolate molds?
[16:05:28] <CaptHindsight> corn starch based
[16:05:57] <CaptHindsight> or just print food coloring onto standard candy
[16:06:42] <gloops> plenty of fine old machines on ebay groaning for restoration and cnc conversion https://www.ebay.co.uk
[16:06:57] <CaptHindsight> https://mycustomcandy.com already out
[16:07:14] <gloops> get that for 300, there was one restored a few weeks ago for quite a few thousand
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[16:25:30] <Tom_L> machine buying monday?
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[17:14:42] <CaptHindsight> how do you get Chinese companies to stop sending you spam about quoting your cnc and proto needs?
[17:15:28] <CaptHindsight> send them detailed models and ask for all sorts of different quantities and tolerances?
[17:17:55] <CaptHindsight> http://brainden.com in various sizes
[17:18:15] <CaptHindsight> and materials
[17:19:54] <Deejay> gn8
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[18:46:47] <gloops> warmest winter day on record according to sky news
[18:48:38] <Tom_L> was pretty warm here today
[18:49:13] <gloops> ive had a t-shirt on all day, not normal for february, even in yorkshire lol
[18:53:10] <Tom_L> 59�F
[18:53:49] <jthornton> 47°F here sorta clear most of the day
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[18:54:39] <gloops> 20C here, whats that about 70f
[18:54:52] <jthornton> wow that candling light is bright when used as a flashlight
[18:55:15] <jthornton> 8°C here
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[18:55:24] <Tom_L> 68F
[18:55:29] <Tom_L> gloops
[18:55:45] <pink_vampire> hi
[18:55:46] <Tom_L> close enough
[18:55:51] <CaptHindsight> polar vortex is hanging out just north of us 20F here
[18:56:23] <pink_vampire> here is 30F
[18:56:25] <gloops> yeah near enough, it hit 20 in wales, first time its done that in winter, i dont think it was that far off where i am
[18:57:00] <CaptHindsight> -13C here tonight (9f)
[18:58:30] <CaptHindsight> back to -20C next week, this is nuts this late in the winter here
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[18:58:54] <jthornton> Tom_L: you got rain coming your way?
[18:59:56] <jthornton> we get rain wed and thur they are saying
[19:00:21] <Tom_L> 20% tuesday 50% wednesday
[19:00:47] <Tom_L> 28/18 wednesday so cooling off again
[19:03:10] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com
[19:03:31] <Jymmm> What a lovely rainy for the next 5 days, to have the car break down on the side of the highway and wait 2 hours for a tow truck
[19:03:44] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com - the inside
[19:04:59] <andypugh> pink_vampire: Looks like some sort of box :-)
[19:05:28] <pink_vampire> this is the original speed controller that come with the g0704
[19:05:48] <pink_vampire> i moved the fuse holders to the front
[19:06:00] <andypugh> I was thinking it might be that. It has a similar look to the one on my lathe/mill
[19:06:52] <Jymmm> But, at least had the sheriff, 3 calFire crews and chp ask if we needed help
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[19:09:15] <jthornton> sounds like a busy road
[19:11:48] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: you have had a string of breakdowns
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[19:19:46] <skunkworks> andypugh: https://www.youtube.com
[19:20:02] <skunkworks> the amt encoders are not that great
[19:23:22] <andypugh> skunkworks: I watched that yesterday.
[19:23:53] <andypugh> I wonder if the problem is with the 5v supply? Were the tests with bth motors with the same supply?
[19:24:22] <andypugh> pink_vampire: What are you doing with the control box?
[19:26:49] <pink_vampire> I'm mount it in the panel
[19:26:53] <skunkworks> I tried a normal optical encoder on the same servo - it is quiet.. (using the same cable - a cui line driver cable for thier encoders)
[19:27:20] <skunkworks> the accuracy of the cui claim to be .25 degrees...
[19:27:29] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com - drilling the back side
[19:28:28] <andypugh> This is wierd. I get an email telling me about every new subscriber to the forum. In the last few hours I have seen 2 female-sounding names and so far no spam. (It’s a bit of a shame, but 50% of spammers are girl-names and about 1% of actual CNC subscribers are)
[19:29:28] <andypugh> pink_vampire: That’s very zealous. I think I would use a centre-punch and the cordless drill :-)
[19:30:51] <pink_vampire> take me less time to send the gcode then even think about scribbling with the caliper
[19:31:16] <pink_vampire> it is for the din rail mount clamps
[19:33:31] <andypugh> I found some nice and cheap DIN rail clamps. They are sold for SSRs, but can be easily modded: https://www.ebay.co.uk
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[19:34:10] <pink_vampire> i'm using the plastic ones
[19:34:44] <andypugh> Plastic ones are fine, of course. But the SSR ones turned out to be really nice for the STMBL drives.
[19:36:06] <pink_vampire> i just have bunch of them here
[19:38:02] <andypugh> Anyhow, time I was gone, early start tomorrow. I am supposed to be randomly driving a pickup truck around the countryside. Blame Volkswagen.
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[20:29:34] <_unreal_> OHHH my god.... my finger... HULK smash own finger
[20:29:39] <norias> hah
[20:30:10] <_unreal_> when I got to work in the morning I crusshed my finger left hand middle with in 15min
[20:30:18] <_unreal_> with a moneky wrench that slipped
[20:33:32] <jdh> ouch.
[20:33:35] <jdh> don't do that.
[20:38:50] <norias> hmm
[20:38:58] <norias> i think i just installed telnetd on my mac
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[21:35:06] <Jymmm> norias: that's a bad thing to install
[21:35:16] <norias> bleh
[21:35:22] <norias> so be it
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[23:45:22] <pink_vampire> is there linux cnc for raspberry pi?
[23:47:33] <Tom_L> dunno if machinekit works on it or not
[23:47:39] <Tom_L> i doubt it
[23:47:49] <Tom_L> i think it's meant for beaglebone black etc
[23:48:15] <Tom_L> i'm not sure though
[23:55:25] <pink_vampire> I want to ry making a new machine with bipod kinematics