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[00:47:14] <jym> DSLR tethered control, open source, wish I ran windows =) http://digicamcontrol.com
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[01:30:19] <miss0r2> goodmorning from a wind & rainswept Denmark
[01:30:37] <fragalot> mornin'
[01:30:43] <fragalot> have you finished that dolly yet?
[01:30:59] <miss0r2> hehe, I'm done dreaming about it. Does that count?
[01:31:04] <fragalot> slacker
[01:31:07] <miss0r2> lol
[01:31:14] <miss0r2> I'll get straight to it :D
[01:31:34] <miss0r2> after I finish my coffee & cigarette
[01:31:44] <jym> miss0r2: Which century?
[01:32:04] <pink_vampire> hi
[01:32:05] <miss0r2> jym: :D
[01:32:17] <miss0r2> it better be this one. It has to be shipped monday
[01:32:42] <miss0r2> hello pink_vampire. did you get your servo working?
[01:32:45] <jym> miss0r2: Ya YA we know.... the dog ate it, blah blah blah
[01:33:17] <miss0r2> jym: hehe.. nah, I better get it done in time or my boss-man will kill me
[01:33:30] <pink_vampire> servo is working but not the dc controller yet
[01:33:51] <fragalot> miss0r2: you ARE making this out of titanium, right?
[01:34:02] <pink_vampire> i need to move stuff around in the panel and insert one more wire duct
[01:34:34] <miss0r2> fragalot: but ofc... its a "special" titanium with the weight of aluminium AND!! the strength of aluminium! \o/
[01:34:59] <miss0r2> pink_vampire: *sigh* :) why?
[01:35:10] <fragalot> miss0r2: aerospace grade aluminium?
[01:35:10] <pink_vampire> miss0r2: what are you making?
[01:35:29] <miss0r2> fragalot: hehe no. I'm just using 6082 T6
[01:35:39] <pink_vampire> miss0r2: no idea, i just love it look good
[01:35:54] <miss0r2> pink_vampire: I'm making two camera dolleys
[01:36:02] <fragalot> miss0r2: this is the first time someone ha said no.. I ws pretty convinced aerospace grade was basically a universal term :D
[01:36:24] <fragalot> oh so it's TWO dolleys now
[01:36:30] <miss0r2> its always been two!
[01:36:36] <miss0r2> this is why I'm in such a hurry
[01:36:39] <fragalot> :D
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[01:38:10] <miss0r2> pink_vampire: Are you seriously rearranging your cabinet with another cable duct for cosmetics? :S
[01:38:21] <pink_vampire> yes
[01:38:26] <miss0r2> o.0
[01:38:43] <pink_vampire> i want all the C axis stuff on the same din rail
[01:38:51] <miss0r2> makes sense.
[01:40:54] <pink_vampire> also prevent cross of high and low voltages
[01:41:13] <fragalot> miss0r2: don't pretend you wouldn't do the same
[01:41:23] <fragalot> because we both know you're a poor electrical cabinet planner :D
[01:42:10] <miss0r2> fragalot: that being said; its been a long time since I had to re-do the layout. :) but yeah, I would
[01:42:36] <miss0r2> I usualy have it on a table, with all the components kicking around for a test setup before I do any drilling/threading
[01:42:38] <fragalot> :)
[01:42:45] <fragalot> they STILL haven't fired up that deckel at work btw
[01:42:51] <miss0r2> bah!
[01:42:52] <fragalot> it's so sad to see that beauty just sitting there
[01:43:01] <miss0r2> all shiny'n stuff
[01:43:04] <pink_vampire> also the 14awg wire it is insane!
[01:43:07] <fragalot> especially the toolholders
[01:43:16] <fragalot> about 200 or so holders came with the machine
[01:43:21] <miss0r2> bring a bucket of chips from home, and pour it into the chip pan :) just to see people "WHO USED IT ?!"
[01:43:24] <fragalot> all pretty damn high quality
[01:43:32] <fragalot> hahaha
[01:44:01] <fragalot> I need to figure out a way to deal with the chips in my shed better
[01:44:09] <fragalot> because using the facing mill is not a fun experience
[01:44:17] <Wolf__> 14awg = insane? wtf
[01:44:28] <miss0r2> thats like 2mm^2?
[01:44:57] <Wolf__> i’m not sure, I would have to look it up
[01:45:04] <fragalot> yes
[01:45:29] <miss0r2> good for 18-20 amps dc
[01:45:44] <miss0r2> (shooting from the hip here)
[01:45:46] <fragalot> depends on length
[01:45:51] <fragalot> and allowable voltage drop
[01:45:52] <miss0r2> no :)
[01:45:58] <miss0r2> well yes
[01:45:58] <fragalot> yes. :)
[01:46:00] <miss0r2> the latter one
[01:46:09] <Wolf__> #4 awg for all the things
[01:46:10] <pink_vampire> Wolf__: for 5v signals...
[01:46:10] <Wolf__> lol
[01:46:11] * fragalot = technically correct
[01:46:23] <Wolf__> wtf, yeah thats kinda dumb
[01:46:25] <fragalot> now for signals, it IS insane.
[01:46:25] * miss0r2 slaps fragalot with technically correct
[01:46:29] <miss0r2> wtf! hahaha
[01:46:32] <miss0r2> that IS insane
[01:46:45] <fragalot> the only question left really is.. why.
[01:47:07] <miss0r2> I use 18 or 19 gauge for that.
[01:47:09] <Wolf__> I have 14awg feeding my 1.5hp vfd and motor
[01:47:12] <pink_vampire> same thickness look nice
[01:47:22] <miss0r2> if I don't have any 20awg kicking around
[01:47:44] <fragalot> miss0r2: just split the 14awg & heatshrink the separated strands to make your own
[01:47:46] <Wolf__> 20 awg shielded for my 24-12-5v signal wires
[01:47:50] <miss0r2> pink_vampire: I think aesthetics has taken over your life
[01:48:08] <miss0r2> fragalot: theres just no way that is not a good idea :D
[01:48:32] <pink_vampire> LOL\
[01:48:39] <Wolf__> if you are doing wire size for aesthetics inside the damn cabinet, you need to rethink your machine building views...
[01:48:57] * fragalot away!
[01:48:59] <miss0r2> aesthetics is one thing; HOW do you fit that into all of the small terminals for signaling?
[01:49:00] <miss0r2> see you
[01:49:12] <fragalot> miss0r2: best of luck, and if you need help with it, go rethink your life choices!: )
[01:49:21] <miss0r2> haha thanks
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[01:49:44] <Wolf__> then again, she is using a cabinet that is the size of a closet
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[01:50:28] <miss0r2> true.. but 14awg.. :D
[01:50:46] <miss0r2> not even if I was using a cabinet the size of my living room
[01:50:52] <Wolf__> lol
[01:51:03] <pink_vampire> Wolf__: lol you are killing me here LOLOL
[01:51:39] <Wolf__> my cnc plasma table has been making me hate wiring, and its mostly 20awg
[01:51:50] <Wolf__> just too many damn wires lol
[01:52:15] <pink_vampire> just the cam witch is 32 wires
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[01:57:44] <jym> 18awg is good for 10,000volts@400amps... at least for 4nS ;)
[01:59:06] <jym> I'm prefectly fine with wiring anything, just hate fixing someone elses fuckups, aka rats nest.
[01:59:54] <jym> https://i.imgur.com
[02:00:24] <Wolf__> I hate commercial truck wiring, factory harness are a pain in the ass
[02:01:25] <jym> Wolf__: Why?
[02:02:20] <Wolf__> because dumb stuff, like I need to tap a circuit and the tap point is next to the trans, and the controller its going to is usually on the other end of the truck
[02:04:10] <Wolf__> or nice handy user access wires, which they install behind something else that you cant remove easy and no room to actually reach the stuff
[02:04:25] <jym> Ah
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[02:13:46] <Wolf__> commercial truck dash shit is fun… https://i.imgur.com https://i.imgur.com
[02:14:44] <Wolf__> or all the wiring to the garbage truck control box https://i.imgur.com
[02:14:49] <jym> That's actually pretty damn clean
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[02:16:00] <Wolf__> same panel after I get done with it https://i.imgur.com
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[02:18:11] <jym> Wolf__: , Oh now you fucked it up ;)
[02:18:20] <Wolf__> yup
[02:18:29] <Wolf__> fdm parts and all on that lol
[02:19:04] <jym> Wolf__: Toss one of these in there https://odditymall.com
[02:19:12] <CaptHindsight> when is a tailgate not a tailgate?
[02:19:12] <Wolf__> damn trash packer switches are smaller then the factory switches
[02:19:22] <CaptHindsight> when it's a jar
[02:19:28] <Loetmichel> Wolf__: is that a new truck?
[02:19:38] <Loetmichel> that looks waaay to clean for a used one
[02:19:40] <Wolf__> Loetmichel: yep
[02:19:53] <Wolf__> fuck if I’m going to work on a used garbage truck
[02:20:13] <Loetmichel> $me remembers more thinks like a solid "cake" of mud under trucks that have seen some service
[02:21:00] <Loetmichel> had to chisel out the generator on one... you could only see the V-belt disappear and emerge out of a large blob of hardened mud
[02:21:22] <Wolf__> most of the trucks I see still have shipping plastic on the inside panels =D
[02:22:14] <Wolf__> https://i.imgur.com + https://i.imgur.com = https://i.imgur.com
[02:22:39] <jym> Wolf__: Install one of these and wire it to model rocket engine igniter https://previews.123rf.com
[02:22:43] * Loetmichel had one two decades ago that was older than me... shoud have been an RV, sadly my marriage meant that i hadnt enough time to finish it: http://www.cyrom.org
[02:23:12] <CaptHindsight> Wolf__: do you offer options that the dealers do not?
[02:23:48] <Wolf__> yeah, less then 2 month turn around time for install lol
[02:23:48] <Loetmichel> i guess Wolf__ is selling/mounting special implements
[02:24:00] <Wolf__> just doing install
[02:24:19] <CaptHindsight> not a bad racket
[02:24:26] <CaptHindsight> new clean mods
[02:24:39] <CaptHindsight> beats fixing old dirty and rusty
[02:24:51] <Wolf__> yup, always fun cutting up brand new $80k trucks
[02:25:45] <Wolf__> even more so when the dealer calls and asked if you started install on something 20 mins after you cut off 4’ of frame rail lol
[02:26:40] <CaptHindsight> we used to say "ching-ching" when that happened
[02:26:52] <Wolf__> and yeah, fixing/install stuff on used trucks sucks ass
[02:27:01] <CaptHindsight> since that is the sound of the cash register opening and closing
[02:27:04] <Wolf__> everything takes 3x longer to get done
[02:28:31] <CaptHindsight> ever have a customer that just gets it?
[02:28:48] <CaptHindsight> they see how to do something simple and quick and want that
[02:28:51] <Wolf__> usually, no lmao
[02:28:59] <CaptHindsight> had one today
[02:29:10] <CaptHindsight> no nonsense
[02:29:27] <CaptHindsight> no drama
[02:30:31] <Wolf__> we get stuff like dealer forgets to order aux controls on the trash body and then wants a cart tipper installed making things 5x harder then they needed to be https://i.imgur.com
[02:32:07] <CaptHindsight> as long as they are paying for the extra work
[02:32:39] <CaptHindsight> no deals for their mistakes or they just start to expect it
[02:32:44] <Wolf__> yeah, they pay, still a pain in the ass
[02:32:56] <Wolf__> then we actually need to work lol
[02:33:10] <CaptHindsight> yeah :)
[02:33:57] <Wolf__> mostly pain in the ass tying in to the main hydraulics, having to route lines all over the place and what not
[02:34:38] <Wolf__> usually its add the lower line set https://i.imgur.com and cut in/ weld in the tipper https://i.imgur.com
[02:34:43] <CaptHindsight> what do you use for paint?
[02:34:58] <Wolf__> tractor supply rattle can lol
[02:35:43] <Wolf__> on actual repaint we use automotive pain
[02:35:45] <Wolf__> paint
[02:35:54] <CaptHindsight> it works
[02:36:18] <Wolf__> for the cut in flipper just enamel spray bomb
[02:36:35] <CaptHindsight> I repainted a forklift and the Rustoleum Tractor paint matched perfectly from rattle can to gallons
[02:37:08] <Wolf__> auto paint we get gallons + spray bomb of same mix
[02:37:28] <CaptHindsight> automotive urethane?
[02:37:39] <CaptHindsight> or the fleet enamels?
[02:38:18] <Wolf__> I have no idea, business partners brother is a auto body tech so we just give him the color code that they want
[02:38:50] <CaptHindsight> do you have to mix in a catalyst or just thin and spray?
[02:39:12] <Wolf__> needs hardener
[02:39:31] <CaptHindsight> oh so isocyanate
[02:39:38] <Wolf__> but usually single stage paint
[02:40:24] <CaptHindsight> do wear a full face mask or just a respirator over nose and mouth?
[02:40:46] <Wolf__> I do mostly just the welding, hydraulic hard lines and wiring
[02:40:54] <CaptHindsight> wise man
[02:41:32] <CaptHindsight> newer paints are great but they can kill you
[02:41:53] <Wolf__> like I usually let someone else deal with crawling under the truck and fighting the PTO in and paint work
[02:42:22] <CaptHindsight> same for spraying truck bed liners
[02:43:24] <Wolf__> yeah, I do have a full face setup for that stuff, haven’t sprayed any yet but we have one of the dual cart plural guns for bed spray/foam
[02:45:02] <Wolf__> at some point I want to pull the ply off the walls and foam insulate my moving box body
[02:46:30] <Wolf__> just need to get my surface grinder out of it first lol
[02:46:44] <CaptHindsight> fresh air system and cover from head to toe
[02:48:44] <CaptHindsight> the bad part about working with it is once you become sensitive to it you're stuck
[02:49:15] <CaptHindsight> asthma, and pulmonary problems
[02:50:22] <Wolf__> stuff I was looking at using is https://sprayez.com
[02:50:51] <Wolf__> mostly because its the same gun as the bed liner stuff
[02:53:20] <CaptHindsight> not as bad as isocyantes
[02:54:03] <CaptHindsight> looks like it's maybe a Amine Catalyst
[02:54:21] <CaptHindsight> PEL/TLV NOT ESTABLISHED CATALYST 2%
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[02:55:21] <Wolf__> weird, they say the bedliner product is VOC free...
[02:55:33] <CaptHindsight> yes, 100% solids
[02:56:05] <CaptHindsight> meaning 100% of it is active in the polymerization
[02:56:18] <Wolf__> Propanol, [(1-methyl-1,2-ethanediyl)bis(oxy)]bis-, polymer with 1,1'-methylenebis [isocyanatobenzene] and oxybis[propanol] and 4,4'-METHYLENEDIPHENYL DIISOCYANATE
[02:56:27] <CaptHindsight> or at least no VOC solvents
[02:56:45] <CaptHindsight> isocyanatobenzene
[02:57:01] <Wolf__> https://sprayez.com
[02:57:11] <CaptHindsight> that is the one that gets you
[02:57:13] <Wolf__> sounds… safe, ish
[02:57:43] <CaptHindsight> 4,4'-METHYLENEDIPHENYL DIISOCYANATE
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[02:58:13] <CaptHindsight> no, use a positive pressure fresh air system
[02:58:26] <CaptHindsight> like a space man
[02:58:40] <CaptHindsight> cover your eyes as well
[02:59:04] <Wolf__> sounds more like cover everything lol
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[02:59:14] <CaptHindsight> the carbon filters can work for a few minutes but you will absorb it through your eyes
[02:59:24] <CaptHindsight> mucus and water
[02:59:39] <Deejay> moin
[02:59:54] <CaptHindsight> so eyes, nose, throat
[03:00:22] <CaptHindsight> until it is cured it will soak right into it
[03:01:54] <Wolf__> so full face (non-positive pressure) ok for short time inside a box (12’x8’w/h) or open area?
[03:02:29] <CaptHindsight> I would not in a closed area
[03:03:01] <CaptHindsight> spray booth with new fresh carbon filters for 10 minutes max
[03:03:33] <CaptHindsight> the scary part is you can absorb it but feel the effects until hours later
[03:04:00] <Wolf__> hmm, guess I need to look in to some new ppe when I do my new shop building
[03:04:28] <CaptHindsight> carbon filters need to be kept in the sealed bags until used
[03:04:40] <CaptHindsight> and the mask has to fit tight
[03:06:04] <Wolf__> or just find a shop to handle bed liner/foam work so I dont have to worry about it
[03:06:09] <CaptHindsight> i was looking at test results recently and after 10 minutes they lose much of their capacity
[03:06:32] <CaptHindsight> better than asthma
[03:07:04] <CaptHindsight> or sensitivity to just about any airborne pollutant
[03:07:05] <Wolf__> tho I’ll probably still end up diy bed liner on my ’69 bronco…
[03:07:30] <CaptHindsight> nice
[03:07:39] <CaptHindsight> 4 wheel burnouts
[03:08:14] <CaptHindsight> https://assets.hemmings.com
[03:08:40] <CaptHindsight> I was lloking for one to rebuild 15 years ago
[03:10:49] <Wolf__> yeah, something like that, but in dark metallic grey
[03:11:41] <Wolf__> also going to do the cage so I can still drop the hard top on it
[03:12:40] <CaptHindsight> https://academic.oup.com
[03:15:21] <Wolf__> hmm, wonder if plasma cutting of painted surfaces might be bad for that as well...
[03:16:28] <Wolf__> yup “Moreover, a variety of thermal degradation products (mono isocyanates and amino isocyanates) can be formed when cured PU products are heated”
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[03:47:51] * Loetmichel should clean up his desk... its getting harder to type something in irc if you have to reach over the device under test ;) -> http://www.cyrom.org
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[04:44:13] <miss0r2> meh. one wrong key press, and now I have to wait another 10 minuts for the g-code to transfer to the mill :]
[04:48:31] <miss0r2> finding out the mill is not set in recieve mode halfway through the transfer. ! FAK
[04:48:41] <miss0r2> have to wait for it to complete & then start over again ...
[04:49:14] <sensille> sounds like a system from the 80s
[04:49:23] <miss0r2> '85 indeed
[04:49:44] <miss0r2> My trusty old maho 500c :)
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[04:55:17] <miss0r2> bah.. it has done this before. It decided to get stuck. The only solution is to reboot the machine and loose all your refrence points, to get it to recieve data again. that is just annoying
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[04:59:10] <miss0r2> because, apparently, theres a signed bit somewhere telling it that the computer is there and sending, but it is not getting anything. So you cannot start a new serial session with it. and I have never been able to figure out how to reset this proberly.
[05:05:00] <Loetmichel> miss0r2: convert it to linuxcnc :-)
[05:05:17] <miss0r2> hehe. I am actualy in the process, you know this :D
[05:05:28] <miss0r2> The controller is complete - I just havent gotten around to programming it
[05:05:50] <miss0r2> anyway. now the transfer is complete - time to break something
[05:06:31] <Loetmichel> hopefully toos and not ballscrews or servo drives :-)
[05:06:34] <Loetmichel> +l
[05:07:54] <miss0r2> linear glass scales, servo drives & ballscrews... :)
[05:08:06] <miss0r2> VFD + 18 speed gearbox
[05:08:18] <miss0r2> I haven't gathered strength to do it yet :D
[05:13:42] <miss0r2> its sounding good at the moment. 6mm bullnose endmill (r0.5mm) running at 800mm/min 10mm doc 1.5mm stepover at 4000rpm
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[05:18:37] <Loetmichel> miss0r2: i meant to break tools because it cheaper thn breaking vises or machine parts
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[05:37:25] <miss0r2> :] indeed
[05:41:50] <jthornton> morning
[05:42:24] <XXCoder> yo
[05:47:49] <Deejay> hey
[05:51:44] <Loetmichel> miss0r2: i mamaged to friction weld a 1/8" carbide shaft to a cast iron vise once
[05:52:10] <Loetmichel> thanks to the fact that the steppers on my mill have not enough power to break the tool
[05:52:44] <Loetmichel> at 24krpm you cant press the e-stop fast enough before the shaft is white hot when running sideways into the vise
[05:52:57] <XXCoder> ouch
[05:53:05] <Loetmichel> and when you finally hit the estop it welds in place ;)
[05:54:36] <pink_vampire> i just made the best stubby screw driver for tight places in the panel
[05:59:36] <miss0r2> damn
[06:00:19] <XXCoder> no problem of that at work, easily break tool lol
[06:03:11] <Loetmichel> XXCoder: 1A per phase steppers... http://www.cyrom.org
[06:03:22] <Loetmichel> they dont break a carbide tool :-)
[06:04:07] <XXCoder> ya not much oomph to
[06:10:29] <Loetmichel> they dont even break bones
[06:10:39] <Loetmichel> wich is a nice "safety feature" once
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[06:11:34] <Loetmichel> got stuck a few times in my big gantry router between gantry and x sled... only leads to black finger nails though, not to smashed digits
[06:12:16] <Loetmichel> even with the 3A steppers that machine had: http://www.cyrom.org
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[06:17:28] <selroc> hi
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[06:19:52] <XXCoder> hi
[06:19:58] <XXCoder> bah
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[06:41:28] <pink_vampire> Loetmichel: i want a machine for cutting sheets
[06:42:13] <Loetmichel> pink_vampire: what size sheets?
[06:42:34] <pink_vampire> 2X2 oe 2X3 feet
[06:45:23] <Loetmichel> https://www.sorotec.de <- something like that
[06:45:55] <pink_vampire> no no no no
[06:46:04] <pink_vampire> this is hugeeee
[06:46:43] <pink_vampire> i want something like the maslow
[06:47:12] <Loetmichel> huge`?
[06:47:33] <Loetmichel> its barely bigger than the 2*3 feet you specified
[06:47:55] <pink_vampire> floor space
[06:52:20] <Loetmichel> bolt it to the wall
[06:52:26] <Loetmichel> slightly inclined
[06:52:33] <XXCoder> ya theres 4'x8' wall cnc router
[06:52:45] <XXCoder> if you have a large wall you can have huge roputer heh
[06:52:49] <Loetmichel> the machine doesent care about orientation
[06:53:06] <XXCoder> mostly yeah. just need to resist changing positon by gravityu
[06:54:25] <Loetmichel> maslow isnt really good for metal
[06:54:30] <Loetmichel> or for hard woods
[06:54:40] <Loetmichel> it relys on gravity to move the head
[06:54:51] <Loetmichel> not the best idea if you have large milling forces
[06:55:18] <pink_vampire> it is fine with me
[06:55:40] <pink_vampire> 60K rpm dont need much down force
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[07:22:57] <Loetmichel> *MUHAHAHA* CFO just came in asking why we need our external designer. $me starting Elite dangerous (space game)... jumping into an Anaconda: "Because thats how I design PC enclosures" *switching to Imperial clipper* "And thats how the Designer does it..." ... she understood ;)
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[07:30:25] <XXCoder> oh yeah forgot
[07:30:33] <XXCoder> today shop reached 7% humidity lol
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[07:31:03] <XXCoder> amazing low
[07:31:41] <pink_vampire> super low
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[07:33:25] <XXCoder> ya my eyes felt dry lol
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[07:33:40] <XXCoder> it rose tpo 18% by end of shift
[07:34:34] <XXCoder> funny "review" of langoliers movie
[07:34:44] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com
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[07:40:11] <x2s> Hrm. New mainboard, still a max jitter of 100k µs. I wonder why.
[07:41:00] <XXCoder> try turn off all power management stuff
[07:41:40] <x2s> ah, setting cpu speed to max and stuff
[07:51:03] <x2s> 73k µs. Looks already better. But I have to let it run for a while, I guess
[07:51:41] <XXCoder> yeah
[07:51:51] <XXCoder> inbuilt gpu or not?
[08:07:55] <XXCoder> pink_vampire: its so dry that even at 27f we didnt get much frost on cars lol
[08:09:58] <x2s> 53k µs. Looks already better. But I have to let it run for a while, I guess
[08:10:13] <x2s> XXCoder: dedicated gpu
[08:10:21] <XXCoder> not bad
[08:10:45] <XXCoder> i can only suggest basics im sure there is more you can do to improve latency.
[08:11:02] <sensille> 100k us? 0.1s?
[08:11:02] <x2s> Scheduler is set to performance for all cores. That made the difference
[08:11:20] <x2s> ns...
[08:11:24] <x2s> sorry :)
[08:34:46] <x2s> What I forgot to mention: 4.19.0-2-rt-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Debian Buster
[08:34:56] <jthornton> XXCoder: https://jethornton.github.io
[08:35:29] <XXCoder> looks like start of new page
[08:36:04] <jthornton> did you open the Howdy page?
[08:38:28] <XXCoder> yeah seemed mostly empty
[08:38:46] <XXCoder> oh lol
[08:43:37] <jthornton> yea that was a test to try and sort out how to get travis ci to build my github sphinx docs for me
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[08:52:42] <PL7icnc> heavy rain here in Germany all day long
[08:52:59] <PL7icnc> i did spam the Forum been Told am i
[08:53:40] <XXCoder> jt nice lets see if it works
[08:56:07] <XXCoder> Pl hey
[08:56:13] <XXCoder> well off to bed before im dead heh
[09:03:37] <flyback> bmcc
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[10:10:04] <JT-Shop> I love emails that say ...send them ASAP... well that will cost you an extra day for sure
[10:10:38] <methods_> lol
[10:10:52] <methods_> expedite fee
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[12:53:22] <fragalot> 'sup
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[13:45:18] <jym> Is lcnc still using RTOS or another RT core?
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[13:50:12] <pcw_mesa> RTAI or Preempt-RT (maybe Xenomai, not sure)
[13:50:35] <jym> Ah, RTAI, ok, I couldn't remember.
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[13:53:49] <jym> pcw_mesa: I found a RTOS for a uC, might be interesting
[13:54:49] jym is now known as Jymmm
[13:55:33] <pcw_mesa> FreeRTOS has been around for a while
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[13:57:34] <Jymmm> Ah, this looks like it is based on FreeRTOS at least in part.
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[14:09:44] <roycroft> ha
[14:09:52] <roycroft> so yesterday i was negotiating with an ebay seller on a motor
[14:10:07] <roycroft> he was taking offers, but was not willing to play very much on price
[14:10:24] <roycroft> i ended up buying a different motor, but forgot to take the first one off my watch list
[14:10:38] <roycroft> i just got an email that indicated that the motor sold for less than i had offered
[14:11:04] <roycroft> so i guess the seller was willing to play, but not with me
[14:11:36] <roycroft> oh well, the one i got cost me less than my lowest offer on the first one
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[14:29:06] <skunkworks> andypugh: put the 3rd stmbl amp together.. Finally. It is so satifying..
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[14:30:20] <andypugh> Doing better than me. :-) I have one assembled and 5 to do...
[14:31:04] <skunkworks> I have one communicating smart serial.. Getting there. Going to steel one of the spindle configs to play with.
[14:33:28] <skunkworks> The amp is still pretty black boxy to me still
[14:33:57] <andypugh> Me too, to an extent. That’s partly why I started to write the docs...
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[14:34:36] <andypugh> If you make any notes on the config stage then perhaps we could work on that part of the docs.
[14:35:34] <skunkworks> sure - I have been getting more familliar...
[14:43:22] <skunkworks> andypugh: what is the difference between the a and a2?
[14:43:28] <skunkworks> (iram)
[14:43:45] <andypugh> A2 has the pins bent correctly for STMBL, and A doesn’t
[14:45:31] <skunkworks> ah - I see now. The actual picture on mousers site shows the a2 - so I was getting excited..
[14:46:00] <skunkworks> the pdf shows the actual pin setup. (make for vertial mount..)
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[14:55:31] <skunkworks> actually put the case on this one...
[15:09:03] <rmu> anybody know of a linuxcnc meetup in germany this year?
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[15:28:33] <fragalot> gah
[15:28:44] <fragalot> i feaking hate how fusion360 updates automatically & introduces bugs
[15:29:06] <fragalot> I can't use the extrude command to cut anymore
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[15:56:18] <andypugh> rmu: I don’t know of anything planned yet. But I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a meetup in Stutthart again.
[15:56:44] <andypugh> fragalot: I just extrude-cut 10 minutes ago.
[15:57:53] <fragalot> andypugh: something went sideways on my one
[15:58:04] <fragalot> i'm trying to cut a projection in an assembly and it just is not having it
[15:58:17] <andypugh> Maybe you need to select the body-to-be cut in the dropdown?
[15:58:55] <andypugh> That said, it annoyed me today. I made a body, then promoted it to a component. Then couldn’t edit an extrude that I did prior to the conversion.
[15:59:04] <gloops> https://www.ebay.co.uk
[15:59:04] <fragalot> the dropdown is not there
[15:59:23] <fragalot> there were quite a few menus today where the bottom dynamic half just does not load
[15:59:26] <gloops> fragalot on/off
[15:59:45] <fragalot> gloops: Thank you capt'n obvious :)
[15:59:57] <andypugh> I am on a Mac. Perhaps they haven’t got round to breaking that version yet?
[16:00:41] <fragalot> maybe
[16:01:17] <fragalot> but forced updates and remote policy changes being pushed without consent are just getting so frustrating
[16:01:37] <fragalot> I feel that a good 25% of my job at work is just trying to get shit that used to work to work again
[16:01:42] <fragalot> rather than being productive
[16:04:07] <XXCoder> thats one of reasons I moved on from windows
[16:04:12] <XXCoder> unfortunately not a choice at work
[16:06:20] <fragalot> it's not JUST windows, although that is a major one
[16:06:28] <XXCoder> yeah
[16:06:28] <fragalot> and yes - unfortionately not an option at work
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[16:08:57] <XXCoder> yeah
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[16:40:16] <skunkworks> I run fusion on linux.. (well - in a windows 10vm on linux..)
[16:40:32] <skunkworks> But I don't use it enough yet to be any good at it.
[16:41:21] * skunkworks waits patiently for Wintergatan wednesday...
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[17:15:23] <andypugh> I am trying to persuade Wintergatan to let me build him a linuxCNC robot
[17:16:16] <andypugh> https://www.reddit.com
[17:18:09] <andypugh> Random thought: The world has changed. I needed a 24V enable signal for this Megatorque servo. So I chopped the end off of a USB cable, soldered on a DC-DC coverter (2A, 5-24V, £2 from eBay) and used that, plugged in to my Mac.
[17:18:50] <andypugh> If such things had existed when the drive was manufactured then I rather suspect that a 24V supply would have been built-in...
[17:20:44] <Deejay> gn8
[17:21:11] <Tom_L> hope the mac doesn't de'rate it like they try to do on their battery life
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[17:21:53] <whitequark> that's a perfectly reasonable engineering decision of the ios team. batteries age, that's a fact of reality
[17:22:19] <whitequark> the other possible "solution", which you can see all the android phones pick, is to discharge to 25% and then hard turn off.
[17:22:19] <Tom_L> aparently not as quickly as they'd like them to though
[17:23:24] <whitequark> clamping maximum current on an aging battery would probably make it age slower, not faster
[17:44:01] <SpeedEvil> Also - thinkpads had/have(?) the option to only charge to x%.
[17:44:13] <SpeedEvil> Charging to 80% greatly improves the shelf life
[17:44:49] <SpeedEvil> (and after a relatively little while, the total available capaicty once the comparison battery ages past 80%)
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[17:48:37] <R2E4> evening, afternoon, morning
[17:49:14] <R2E4> Anyone having trouble with external button jogging in master?
[17:49:50] <R2E4> setting halui.joint.jog-speed is not working and I cant figure it out
[17:50:10] <R2E4> in 2.5 it works, I know it has changed but I cant get it to work.
[17:50:29] <R2E4> it only jogs at 20 ipm.
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[18:18:46] <jthornton> hmm I don't think I've tried halui.joint.jog-speed ... looking
[18:21:55] <jthornton> halui.joint.jog−speed float in
[18:21:56] <jthornton> pin for setting jog speed for plus/minus jogging.
[18:22:18] <jthornton> are you using halui.joint.n.plus and minus to jog?
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[22:36:10] <_unreal_> hello
[22:36:33] <TurBoss> Hi
[22:45:58] <_unreal_> damn someone responded :)
[22:46:18] <_unreal_> killed my streak man ;)
[22:50:34] <_unreal_> ?
[22:51:21] <TurBoss> ¿
[22:51:22] <TurBoss> :P
[22:51:45] <TurBoss> nah just working on bump blendercam to blender 2.80
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