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[00:34:22] <miss0r2> Elmo40: Everyone? :)
[00:34:29] <miss0r2> 'round here anyway
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[00:41:15] <Elmo40> damn europeans...
[00:41:44] <Elmo40> i wish north america went on the 220V setup in the beginning.
[00:42:11] <Elmo40> 110V is such a drain. High currents for no reason.
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[00:55:44] <miss0r2> indeed :]
[00:58:31] <Jymmm> LEts just do 600V instead
[00:58:42] <cncnoob> 1 billion volts
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[01:03:13] <miss0r2> insulation will become an issue at some point inbetween those two voltages..
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[02:25:40] <PL7icnc> Somone on the Forum shoudt remove the Doubel postings
[02:26:49] <PL7icnc> it is sad to have no PM on this forum to thell the Moderators
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[04:10:54] <selroc> hello
[04:10:56] <selroc> good morning
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[05:32:22] <jthornton> morning
[05:33:41] <XXCoder> hey
[05:33:45] <XXCoder> know whats so not fun?
[05:34:16] <XXCoder> day shift not clearing 4 over inch deep holes thats thin, and 105 parts lol
[05:34:20] <XXCoder> i had to clear em all.
[05:34:23] <XXCoder> took me all day
[05:34:44] <XXCoder> one good thing out of this is that day went fast!
[05:39:06] <jthornton> what do you mean by clear the holes?
[05:40:58] * jthornton has to find out how many days from winter solstice to 14hrs of daylight so the chicken door won't break again
[05:42:06] <XXCoder> blow chips out of holes
[05:42:24] <jthornton> ah a post machining op
[05:42:47] <XXCoder> yeah. its super annoying
[05:43:05] <XXCoder> holes are tiny yet .6 inch deep lol
[05:43:12] <XXCoder> and its threaded
[05:43:21] <jthornton> what size thread?
[05:43:38] <XXCoder> hmm 56 something?
[05:43:51] <jthornton> 2-56?
[05:43:56] <XXCoder> think so
[05:44:26] <jthornton> yea that's pretty small need a small needle to blow them out I guess
[05:44:50] <XXCoder> it sucks. 105 parts * 4 = way too holes
[05:45:13] <XXCoder> *many
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[06:14:24] <Tom_L> morning
[06:15:01] <XXCoder> heys
[06:15:25] <Tom_L> jthornton do you remember what deb i need so i can upgrade from 2.7 pre?
[06:15:39] <Tom_L> i installed on a new ssd but can't seem to get the upgrade to take
[06:15:53] <Tom_L> then i'll move to 2.8 on it
[06:16:48] <Tom_L> hope your chicken clock works sunday :) it's time to move an hour
[06:17:00] <jthornton> 2.7 pre is a buildbot deb
[06:17:10] <jthornton> what are you trying to do?
[06:17:19] <Tom_L> it was on this cd i burned ages ago
[06:17:38] <Tom_L> i'm setting up a test drive to move from 2.7.14 to 2.8 master
[06:17:54] <Tom_L> before i disturb the 'real' one :)
[06:18:37] <Tom_L> but i wanted the latest 2.7 on it so i can verify my configs etc
[06:18:49] <jthornton> why not just install 2.8
[06:18:58] <Tom_L> on wheezy?
[06:19:06] <Tom_L> i have it on stretch
[06:19:13] <Tom_L> on another drive
[06:19:27] <Tom_L> the MB is too slow to run stretch
[06:19:46] <jthornton> stretch is debian 9?
[06:19:50] <Tom_L> yes
[06:19:55] <jthornton> I can't ever remember the silly names
[06:19:59] <Tom_L> heh
[06:20:05] <Tom_L> i can only remembe a couple
[06:20:25] <jthornton> much easier for me to just use the numbers lol
[06:20:43] <jthornton> http://gnipsel.com
[06:21:01] <jthornton> the emc install should be the same on 7 or 9 I'd think
[06:22:09] <Tom_L> i'll try it later today
[06:22:12] <Tom_L> thanks
[06:23:15] <jthornton> ok, let me know if anything is different
[06:23:17] <Tom_L> that's gonna put stretch on it though isn't it?
[06:23:30] <jthornton> that link is just for emc
[06:23:49] <jthornton> http://gnipsel.com
[06:24:02] <jthornton> lol it just points you to the lcnc docs
[06:24:53] <jthornton> I've only tested it with debian 9, I should test with debian 7 as well
[06:25:11] <Tom_L> it's already got the deb line for wheezy in the updater
[06:25:27] <Tom_L> deb http://linuxcnc.org wheezy base 2.7-rtai
[06:25:39] <Tom_L> but it doesn't update it to 2.7.14
[06:26:50] <jthornton> debian does not update itself you have to do it manually
[06:26:57] <Tom_L> right
[06:26:58] <jthornton> sudo apt update
[06:27:02] <Tom_L> i did that in a terminal
[06:27:30] <Tom_L> i'll look at the original ssd and see where it's pointing
[06:28:01] <jthornton> hmm that's odd even my ubuntu 10.04 updated to the latest 2.7
[06:28:32] <Tom_L> i started on it kinda late so who knows what i did :)
[06:28:37] <jthornton> chicken door broke this morning lol one of the calculations is how many days back is the winter solstice
[06:29:05] <jthornton> but the for loop didn't have enough days
[06:29:11] <XXCoder> doh
[06:29:12] <Tom_L> heh
[06:30:07] <jthornton> yea if daylight is increasing and daylight is less than 14 I add a few minutes per day from winter solstice up to 14 hours max
[06:41:54] <Loetmichel> jthornton: and now you hve "chicken sticks" ? or isnt it cold where you are?
[06:42:41] <jthornton> -7°C at the moment yes
[06:43:02] <XXCoder> here its right below freeing lol st 0c I guess
[06:43:05] <XXCoder> or 32f
[06:43:23] <Loetmichel> jthornton: ah, that should be no problem for chickens. for a while at least
[06:43:56] <Loetmichel> -40°C i would be wary that they freeze solid after a while
[06:45:13] <jthornton> yea chickens have a built in comforter with down filled insulation
[06:45:56] <jthornton> it's funny to watch them disappear inside themselves at night when they turn into a big ball of feathers
[06:47:48] <Loetmichel> yes
[06:51:20] <XXCoder> almost tribbles eh heh
[06:51:40] <Loetmichel> just feathers instead of fur
[06:51:56] <Loetmichel> even the sounds are somewhat similar ;)
[06:53:20] <XXCoder> lol ok
[06:53:28] <XXCoder> i have quite old tribble here
[06:53:36] <XXCoder> had it for quite a while
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[07:44:44] <weenerdog> howdy
[07:44:57] <pink_vampire> hi
[07:56:30] <miss0r2> meh.. been at it since 3 in the morning by now *yawn*
[07:56:40] <miss0r2> and it is now two in the afternoon
[07:57:33] <weenerdog> i slept in til almost 7
[07:58:04] <miss0r2> nice
[07:58:28] <weenerdog> i farm for a living and kinda hibernate in winter :)
[07:58:55] <miss0r2> XXCoder: It is starting to take shape: https://imgur.com in the middle of that is going to be seated a 20mm plate with ALOT of threads and holes in'it :)
[07:59:04] <miss0r2> I do machining/machines for a living
[08:00:27] <weenerdog> in another life long ago i did too
[08:00:40] <miss0r2> meh. I still need to add helicoils to all the holes... and I can't do that until I have gotten it anodized. But no worries. it doesn't have to ship until monday
[08:00:58] <miss0r2> I used to be an electrician, until I decided this was what I wanted :)
[08:02:05] <miss0r2> if only I had two CNC mills.. then this would be faster :D
[08:02:58] <XXCoder> yeah
[08:03:09] <XXCoder> then you have twice as many jobs
[08:03:33] <miss0r2> knowing myself, I would probably end up taking in twice as much work... :)
[08:03:44] <miss0r2> Indeed
[08:03:51] <miss0r2> What do you think of the base dolley?
[08:04:23] <XXCoder> the rails thing under the parts you made? or black frame under it?
[08:04:25] <pink_vampire> miss0r2: what are you doing?
[08:04:55] <miss0r2> XXCoder: nah, that is just the trossing size it will run on as a minimum size
[08:05:07] <miss0r2> pink_vampire: Two camera dolleys - for moving cameras while filming
[08:05:41] <weenerdog> i got a stupid question i cant find an answer for... when you order cheap ass ballscrews, is the length you buy just the threaded part, or the whole thing?
[08:06:16] <miss0r2> weenerdog: Excellent question. but I don't think theres a universal answer, though.
[08:06:24] <miss0r2> It very much depends on the seller
[08:06:45] <weenerdog> thank you
[08:07:06] <miss0r2> XXCoder: Hehe, the trolley had a minimum load requirement of 40 kgs. I think this thing can handle 400-600 kgs :)
[08:07:19] <miss0r2> The wheels are rated at 50kgs each
[08:08:01] <XXCoder> lol if its not overkill youre not doing your job ;)
[08:08:16] <miss0r2> hehe indeed
[08:08:44] <miss0r2> "the heaviest camera we are going to need mounted on there is 40kgs ish"...
[08:09:14] * miss0r2 on the verge of a coffee induced coma.... 400kg ! GO GO GO
[08:09:35] <XXCoder> "oh thought 40kg had 2 more zeros past that
[08:09:48] <miss0r2> in that case I failed... ? :)
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[08:10:05] <XXCoder> 2 metric tons camera would be camera of gods :P
[08:11:21] <miss0r2> that must be able to record 100^10x100000 frames/sec at 16k res
[08:11:28] <miss0r2> even then I would not be satisfied
[08:14:54] <XXCoder> lol yea though it'd have to be hundreds of cameras recording seperately in order to bring in heavy data
[08:18:00] <XXCoder> you heard of fairly strange new kind of camera?
[08:18:13] <XXCoder> its bunch of random cameras on surface
[08:18:22] <XXCoder> it calculates best image out of all of em
[08:18:27] <XXCoder> and you can change focus anytime
[08:18:36] <jthornton> miss0r2: looking good
[08:18:59] <XXCoder> this one https://light.co
[08:19:04] <pink_vampire> weenerdog: the ballscrews i got years ago to the machine was abit bent
[08:19:12] <XXCoder> you could make one I think software is opensource?
[08:20:12] <weenerdog> pink : i've read that in reviews
[08:20:47] <miss0r2> XXCoder: I think that sounds like alot of work :)
[08:20:50] <miss0r2> jthornton: Thanks
[08:20:54] <XXCoder> yeah I bet also
[08:21:18] <XXCoder> review of curious lol its so expensive.. lol https://www.theverge.com
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[09:03:48] <miss0r2> The last dovetail operation has been started... Can't wait for that cutter to be out of here
[09:03:56] <XXCoder> lol
[09:04:04] <XXCoder> silence is golden
[09:04:08] <XXCoder> unless you have kids
[09:04:15] <XXCoder> then it is... troubling.
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[09:05:19] <weenerdog> lord help me i'm looking at ballscrews on banggood. chinesium for the win, baby!
[09:05:25] <miss0r2> I have kids...
[09:05:36] <XXCoder> lol
[09:05:43] <XXCoder> weenerdog: yeah hope its well packed
[09:05:58] <XXCoder> you probably need to swap bearings or clean em up. 99.9% chance
[09:06:12] <XXCoder> in fact probably order bearing balls. better sizes
[09:06:20] <pink_vampire> weenerdog: what machine do you have??
[09:06:59] <weenerdog> pink : i dont. i'm designing a shitty 3 axis router for woodwork.
[09:07:21] <miss0r2> I should send this cutter to syyl. he likes grinding odd stuff :P
[09:07:34] <syyl> and i like writing invoices
[09:07:39] <weenerdog> lol
[09:07:49] <miss0r2> syyl: 60 degree chinesium dovetail cutter. with atleast one tooth larger than the others
[09:08:02] <miss0r2> the payment for grinding it is the cutter itself. :D
[09:08:09] <XXCoder> lol you guys
[09:08:11] <miss0r2> I just want it out of here hehe
[09:08:25] <pink_vampire> weenerdog: any pics
[09:09:18] <weenerdog> yeah lemme find
[09:09:29] <pink_vampire> sounds interesting , i want to make a machine for wood stuff also
[09:11:10] <weenerdog> photobucket is currently shitting itself. i'll try again in a few minutes. i make musical instruments, pink
[09:11:59] <weenerdog> but i'm building a 4'x4' machine. i have other bigger things i want to make.
[09:12:21] <pink_vampire> sounds cool!
[09:13:31] <pink_vampire> before: https://i.imgur.com
[09:13:59] <weenerdog> its a cylon!
[09:14:05] <weenerdog> kill it with fire!
[09:15:15] <pink_vampire> right now https://i.imgur.com
[09:15:51] <weenerdog> noice
[09:16:59] <pink_vampire> i need to dig out all the pilot devices wiring
[09:17:32] <pink_vampire> and only then it i will be able to replace the wire ducts
[09:18:08] <Deejay> laser eyes
[09:18:34] <pink_vampire> lol
[09:25:47] <Loetmichel> weenerdog: hey... there are friendly cylons!
[09:28:54] <weenerdog> no i'm talking the old battlestar galactica. where every episode, starbuck and apollo get stranded at a whorehouse on some planet when starbuck loses their vipers gambling, they have to steal them back, then defend the ladies from cylon doom the last 15 minutes. not that stupid reboot 'gray's anatomy in space'
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[09:29:39] <weenerdog> the good old days where the cylons looked like '57 chevys
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[09:36:37] <Loetmichel> gnhihi... just made a picture on the back parking lot of the company... guess which is my car (Production manager) and what the workers drive here... -> http://www.cyrom.org
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[09:44:29] <sensille> none?
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[09:44:50] <weenerdog> i cant get your website, Loetmichel
[09:45:32] <Loetmichel> works fine here. maybe try again
[09:45:51] <Loetmichel> its sometimes a bit unresponsive when there is heavy load
[09:46:32] <weenerdog> trying again
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[09:52:10] <weenerdog> you guys keep your cars too clean
[09:52:27] <weenerdog> if i washed my truck, pieces would fall off
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[09:55:06] <Loetmichel> weenerdog: it just rained ;)
[09:55:32] <weenerdog> ah lol
[09:55:59] <Loetmichel> point is that our youngest worker rolls onto the parking lot in a Phaeton while the Production manager of that company drives a 16 year old OPEL
[09:56:02] <Loetmichel> :-)
[09:56:16] <weenerdog> lol
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[09:57:20] <weenerdog> i play the double bass for money. i can never own a cool car. ever :(
[09:57:30] <FinboySlick> Loetmichel: That's just a matter of experience. Wait 'till something breaks on that Phaeton, he'll wish he had an Opel.
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[09:59:22] <Loetmichel> FinboySlick: doubt it. to be fair:he bought that Phaeton as a rollover car totalled. it was pretty much only a box of wrinkled sheet metal
[09:59:29] <Loetmichel> he just finished restoring it ,)
[10:00:24] <sensille> well earned i'd say
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[11:22:58] <jdh> all those cars look the same to me. wtf is a phaeton anyway
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[11:30:52] <jdh> a vw. 2200 sold in the .us 15 years ago. which would explain why I've never heard of them.
[11:31:02] <gregcnc> even so, it must have been ridiculous to repair that thing. Phaeton is top of the line VW, did poorly in the US