#linuxcnc | Logs for 2019-03-14
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[00:00:01] <trentster> yup.
[00:00:16] <pink_vampire> 470 to 1k will do it
[00:00:30] <trentster> going to look at what I have in my box here
[00:00:39] <trentster> I def have 1k
[00:01:09] <pink_vampire> maybe 1 in parallel if 1K is too much
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[00:07:29] <pcw_home> voltage from what is 12V?
[00:10:14] <pcw_home> NPN proxes should never have voltage out by themselves (the output pin is just a switch to ground)
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[00:17:09] <trentster> pcw_home: If I put the meter - on -12v BOB and the +lead on the prox output wire… then manually make it fire…I get a drop from 12V to 0V
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[02:14:39] <fragalot> hi
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[04:47:28] <Deejay> moin
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[05:36:02] <jthornton> morning
[05:36:29] <XXCoder> hey
[05:41:10] <jthornton> going to try sprouting seeds again, someone gave me a tip of putting a fan on them to strengthen them like when in nature
[05:42:31] <XXCoder> what kind of seeds?
[05:43:00] <jthornton> tomatoes and peppers
[05:43:12] <XXCoder> cool :)
[05:45:34] <jthornton> she has some herbs too
[05:46:16] <XXCoder> careful with mint heh
[05:46:26] <jthornton> hows that?
[05:46:28] <XXCoder> little of it goes looong way and you get 100 times growth than you use
[05:46:33] <XXCoder> and it grows everywhere
[05:48:06] <jthornton> no mint seeds, I do have some strawberry seeds
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[05:50:29] <XXCoder> yeah mint is overrated
[05:51:09] <XXCoder> if I recall right theres couple plants that ants really love to live at
[05:51:33] <XXCoder> if you planted em in such way some ants "leaks" into chicken area could be free bugs lol
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[05:59:15] <jthornton> lol
[06:03:08] <jthornton> changed the transfer case actuator for 4 wheel drive but it still didn't work so I'm suspecting the transfer case control module is bad
[06:03:17] <XXCoder> hawkins died last year already.
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[06:09:37] <jthornton> summit has a TCCM for $133 + $200 core charge that's the lowest I found for a Dorman Remanufactured Transfer Case Control Modules 599-105
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[06:18:00] <jthornton> another windy day here
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[06:19:06] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com lets see if guy preserves precision
[06:19:44] <XXCoder> or return it to precision heh
[06:19:48] <XXCoder> so rusty...
[06:21:22] <XXCoder> funny how comparatively simple design is
[06:33:27] <Tom_L> jthornton, did you try rock auto?
[06:33:42] <jthornton> no, I was trying to remember them
[06:34:04] <Tom_L> will beat any local price probably
[06:34:31] <Tom_L> wind switched directions as i figured it would
[06:34:39] <jthornton> they don't have one
[06:34:43] <Tom_L> ahh
[06:35:46] <jthornton> the transfer case actuator I got from o'reilly was the same price as anything I could find on line including rock auto
[06:36:04] <Tom_L> ok
[06:36:32] <Tom_L> they're usually alot cheaper than stores here
[06:36:48] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[06:36:54] <Tom_L> got my thread mills finally
[06:37:17] <Tom_L> profiles all programmed into the cad cam
[06:37:26] <XXCoder> nice!
[06:38:06] <jthornton> nice, made any threaded holes yet?
[06:38:22] <Tom_L> no, they just got here last evening
[06:38:40] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[06:38:42] <XXCoder> jthornton: looks like he fixed it, and preserved precision
[06:38:45] <jthornton> o'reilly is $238 lol
[06:38:46] <Tom_L> gonna try to make some holders
[06:39:06] <XXCoder> he turned old but very rusty watchmaker micrometer to nice one
[06:39:33] <jthornton> a 5 qt bottle of castrol at o'reilly was $30 at walmart $19
[06:39:51] <Tom_L> yeah
[06:40:00] <jthornton> what's the size range of the thread mills?
[06:40:04] <Tom_L> i generally get stuff like that there
[06:40:16] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[06:40:23] <Tom_L> i knew somebody would ask :)
[06:40:37] <XXCoder> tom cn see future!
[06:41:10] <Tom_L> anything below 10 i think i can rigid tap
[06:41:25] <Tom_L> anything above 3/4 i don't need to be messin with
[06:41:31] <jthornton> so that's like owning a whole drawer full of taps... I wonder if you can do metric as well with them?
[06:41:40] <Tom_L> i'm sure
[06:41:47] <Tom_L> just program the helix
[06:41:51] <XXCoder> make 4" bolt and nut for lols
[06:41:54] <Tom_L> if the angle is the same
[06:41:59] <XXCoder> alum since its for showoff not actual usage
[06:42:04] <jthornton> yea the angle is the same
[06:42:10] <Tom_L> then yes
[06:42:34] <Tom_L> internal and external
[06:42:36] <jthornton> my BP 308 has a thread mill routine but I've never tried it
[06:42:59] <Tom_L> onlinecarbide
[06:43:56] <Tom_L> i'll probably need to cut the shank on the 3/4 one
[06:44:05] <Tom_L> since the tube on the sherline spindle is too small
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[06:48:35] <Tom_L> these wouldn't be that practical for production but i'm not
[06:49:05] <jthornton> http://www.lakeshorecarbide.com
[06:49:16] <jthornton> I have that one but never tried it lol
[06:49:23] <XXCoder> yeah nonprods can get away with much more
[06:49:37] <Tom_L> yeah those would be quicker
[06:49:39] <XXCoder> oh yeah jthornton remember the office mill? the tiny one i griped about?
[06:49:48] <XXCoder> its on sale for $25k now lol
[06:50:02] <Tom_L> and i don't think you could use them for metric
[06:51:07] <jthornton> that one I have is for one thread size only, the single points you can
[06:51:12] <Tom_L> right
[06:51:15] <jthornton> only $25k
[06:51:45] <jthornton> are yours carbide?
[06:51:55] <Tom_L> yes
[06:52:00] <Tom_L> coated
[06:52:15] <XXCoder> jt yeah pretty lot cheaper than new which is $60k. its ... tiny.
[06:52:32] <Tom_L> http://onlinecarbide.com
[06:52:41] <XXCoder> its you can put it in closet small
[06:53:07] <XXCoder> for one offs once a while its decent I guess, but production of 1000 parts? hell no.
[06:53:18] <XXCoder> me and coworker broke both of em running so many parts.
[06:53:22] <XXCoder> got rebuilt
[06:53:55] <Tom_L> a bit cheaper than lakeshore too
[06:55:00] <jthornton> quite a bit cheaper... I wonder why
[06:55:05] <Tom_L> http://onlinecarbide.com
[06:55:13] <Tom_L> small company i think
[06:55:40] <Tom_L> they seem to be good quality
[06:56:36] <Tom_L> free shipping over 250
[06:56:51] <Tom_L> that's not hard to meet with carbide
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[07:12:17] <weenerdog> howdy howdy
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[07:49:06] <jthornton> morning
[07:51:13] <jthornton> well it was not the actuator so now I'm thinking the transfer case control module is bad...
[07:54:28] <XXCoder> giant screwdriver lol https://www.youtube.com
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[09:33:34] <gloops> well i have to say china is getting its act together on the shipping these days
[09:33:47] <gloops> 3 cutters here, bought just over a week ago
[09:48:30] <gregcnc> now i understand why PM hates on hobbyists so much
[09:48:43] <gregcnc> on a hobby forum a guy describes chuck runout problem
[09:49:16] <gregcnc> next 2 posts give good answers about finding the issue
[09:49:31] <gregcnc> next describe how to level the bed
[09:49:35] <gregcnc> next
[09:50:12] <gregcnc> damn.. next 45 post describe leveling the bed
[09:51:21] <gregcnc> guy has .030" of runout on a test bar 4" from the chuck one two different chucks
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[10:32:21] <SpeedEvil> has he tried leveling the bed/
[10:33:46] <methods_> definitely level the bed
[10:34:22] <methods_> before i even hang pictures i make sure my lathe bed is level
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[10:50:09] <gregcnc> throw in some scraping and 100 year old books on mahchine building.
[10:50:51] <SpeedEvil> i find 'foundations of machine accuracy' very useful to tear the pages out of to use as shims to level my lathe bed.
[10:51:50] <SpeedEvil> More seriously, getting a good idea of how many orders of magnitude a change will affect is hard.
[10:51:52] <gregcnc> that book is wonderful, but few hobbyist operate in that realm
[10:52:49] <SpeedEvil> yeah. ~page 20, 'this level was found to be insufficiently rigid' - 6" wide 6' long level that would kill a man if it dropped on him.
[10:55:10] <gregcnc> I understand why the guys want to level the bed (even though it's on a wood shed floor)
[10:55:22] <gregcnc> it's just there are bigger fish to fry before bothering
[10:58:59] <SpeedEvil> Take the chuck off and see if there is a badger caught in the taper.
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[11:19:30] <pink_vampire> hi
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[11:31:49] <gregcnc> In the time i spent looking for a tool I could have made it, now I still have to make it
[11:32:45] <pink_vampire> what tool?
[11:33:44] <gregcnc> something like this, but smaller http://www.iscar.com
[11:40:01] <methods_> sketchy lookin id groover
[11:40:18] <methods_> can't imagine you could put much pressure on that
[11:41:55] <pink_vampire> methods_: it is have 2 internal tapers
[11:48:32] <gregcnc> yeah goofy back face groove. for aluminum parts will try making one in steel
[11:49:55] <methods_> oh probably be alright in some alum
[11:50:03] <methods_> i'd hate to try that on anything else
[11:52:38] <pink_vampire> why do i love 10-32 screws?
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[12:15:19] <PL7icnc> someone here from the forum
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[12:17:36] <pink_vampire> PL7icnc: ?
[12:18:29] <PL7icnc> i did alot of postiungs on Show your stuff and knowone answers as it is on NO Replay
[12:18:59] <PL7icnc> somone shudt only say Nice Thanks or even post the tread of this list
[12:24:58] <pink_vampire> what stuff?
[12:25:29] <PL7icnc> just hit NO Replay if you are locked in
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[12:26:58] <PL7icnc> Q to all WHY is on the Forum no direct Link or Main post Stickt to this 24/7 Helpline
[12:27:37] <PL7icnc> is this 2 Different things from Different Partys that run the System
[12:27:48] <PL7icnc> as i came into trouble on freecad
[12:28:31] <pink_vampire> can you send here a link?
[12:28:56] <PL7icnc> https://forum.linuxcnc.org
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[12:30:53] <pink_vampire> why there is no link to this "help line"?
[12:31:42] <pink_vampire> this is the irc and as far as i remember there is a link
[12:32:06] <pink_vampire> http://www.linuxcnc.org
[12:32:55] <PL7icnc> agree but this is not known in forum
[12:33:30] <pink_vampire> mm maybe
[12:35:48] <pink_vampire> what do you suggest to do with the threads with NO Replay on them?
[12:36:16] <PL7icnc> just replay a word numberr or so it comes of the list
[12:37:00] <pink_vampire> what do you mean "so it comes of the list "??
[12:37:34] <PL7icnc> in this list are only tread that have no replay by a other user
[12:37:48] <PL7icnc> so you easy find new postings not answerd
[12:38:59] <pink_vampire> still dont get your point
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[12:40:41] <PL7icnc> No Problem
[12:40:51] <PL7icnc> Need to get along
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[13:38:47] <gregcnc> night shift https://www.instagram.com
[13:52:27] <gloops> oooh..Mays govmt just won 2 votes very narrowly for anyone following brexit, 2 votes
[13:53:09] <Rab> Guy's wife should drive to the shop and MDI M08.
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[14:08:02] <pink_vampire> Rab: lol!!!!!!!!!!
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[14:10:40] <pink_vampire> https://www.instagram.com
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[14:34:35] <gloops> im not seeing the logic in some ebay bidding, Record Power SS16V 16" Variable Speed Scroll Saw (£109 new with 5 year guarantee) just sold for £77 used no guarantee
[14:34:53] <gloops> why didnt they just buy a new one? postage is £12
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[14:35:17] <gregcnc> false economy
[14:35:24] <gloops> stupid really
[14:47:41] <gregcnc> no law against that
[14:53:10] <gloops> no, but if id put that on for sale it would have made £7
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[14:55:21] <pink_vampire> what is the correct way to do a face cut on the lathe?
[15:00:47] <gregcnc> are you having trouble with a part?
[15:01:32] <gloops> power cross feed is handy
[15:02:19] <pink_vampire> the tool dig in to the material
[15:03:03] <gregcnc> how wide is the cut? What tool?
[15:03:04] <gloops> it is a facing tool?
[15:03:30] <pink_vampire> not sure
[15:04:06] <gregcnc> gloops what's a facing tool and why does it matter?
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[15:04:36] <R2E4> hey all....
[15:05:14] <pink_vampire> hi R2E4
[15:05:19] <R2E4> Can I set a digital input true to use logically?
[15:05:23] <R2E4> hi pink
[15:05:55] <R2E4> for example I need to set a motion.digital.input true in a remap.
[15:06:12] <pink_vampire> not sure
[15:06:14] <R2E4> and I cant find out how to do it.
[15:07:18] <R2E4> I can fire a relay and tie that into an input, but I dont want to waste an IO
[15:07:50] <gloops> gregcnc its a tool designed for that operation, with efficient cutting angles - sorry im cooking something atm
[15:08:20] <gregcnc> gloops, can you face without a facing tool?
[15:08:41] <gloops> i often just swing the tool ive got in to an angle and face off with that
[15:09:06] <gloops> gregcnc put it this way, you cant face with any tool
[15:09:32] <pink_vampire> but do you lock the Z axis on the lathe during face cut?
[15:09:55] <gregcnc> I must be doing it wrong. VC faces just fine when used properly....
[15:09:58] <gloops> you might need to do that with some lathes
[15:10:01] <gregcnc> VCxx inserts
[15:10:46] <pink_vampire> I dont have a lock on any of the lathe axis
[15:10:52] <gloops> so you can face with a round tip finishing tool at 90 degrees?
[15:12:09] <gloops> pink_vampire it sounds like youre finding the tool is rebounding from the workpiece? chattering, digging in etc, i.e there is some movement in the machine
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[15:14:21] <pink_vampire> the force from the cut make the tool move to the side
[15:14:21] <gregcnc> pink it's just normal lathe stuff. material, width of cut, feed rate, and so on. without any idea of what you have and are doing start at the smallest successful cut and work your way up.
[15:14:26] <gregcnc> If nothing works, we need some detail
[15:15:26] <pink_vampire> i know my tool is not on center
[15:15:26] <gloops> photo pls
[15:15:53] <gregcnc> how hard is the material?
[15:15:53] <pink_vampire> i need to clean the area next to the lathe and make a video
[15:15:58] <pink_vampire> bronze
[15:16:11] <gregcnc> is the tool sharp?
[15:16:27] <pink_vampire> yes
[15:16:29] <gloops> oh dont bother about the cleaning up, see some of the pics ive posted lol we're shameless on here
[15:16:34] <pink_vampire> but i mean in general
[15:16:50] <gloops> centre height?
[15:17:02] <pink_vampire> gloops: there is cables on the floor next to the lathe
[15:17:51] <pink_vampire> yes, I need to shim the tool and i dont have any correct shim so the tool is "about center"
[15:18:14] <gloops> lol, actually i found a very realistic rubber rat in an empty house ive been working in today, im going to get it for future photos
[15:18:54] <pink_vampire> the tool post i have is the one with the 8 bolts
[15:19:23] <gloops> facing bronze should be difficult in my humble experience
[15:19:26] <gloops> shouldnt
[15:19:50] <pink_vampire> i know
[15:19:58] <gregcnc> OD cut fine?
[15:20:10] <pink_vampire> no
[15:20:14] <pink_vampire> the tool move
[15:20:34] <gregcnc> bronze alloy?
[15:21:08] <fragalot> pink_vampire: when you say "about center", is it above center perhaps?
[15:21:57] <gregcnc> this should go more like, I have xxx alloy, RPM=xxx, doc=xxx, feed=xxx, and the tool is tully well and good because xxx, but I still have this problem
[15:22:23] <gregcnc> oh and on my maximat 7
[15:22:47] <gregcnc> hope some can help I have to get something done
[15:23:33] <pink_vampire> fragalot: about 1mm below
[15:24:11] <fragalot> put 10 sheet of paper under it or something if you have nothing else
[15:24:14] <fragalot> or coke cans
[15:24:28] <fragalot> and for reference, 1mm below center is not "about center" :°
[15:24:30] <fragalot> :)
[15:25:42] <pink_vampire> brass 380 alloy, RPM=350, doc=no idea, feed=no idea i'm feed by hand
[15:26:22] <pink_vampire> fragalot: I try to shim it but it slide out and the tool post get bent
[15:27:00] <fragalot> is it possible that you have some oil under the clamping surfaces?
[15:27:50] <gloops> the tool is slipping...oh dear
[15:28:55] <gloops> so the tool is protruding just a bit more than required to make this cut - as opposed to sticking way out?
[15:29:04] <gregcnc> is the spindle running the right direction?
[15:31:34] <roycroft> so $45 refund on that used motor
[15:31:39] <roycroft> that's pretty fair, i think
[15:31:55] <pink_vampire> i think the tool post have some flex, so then you tight the 3 screw for the tool, it deform the tool post, ans make the tool push to the side
[15:32:25] <fragalot> sounds like a really shitty toolpost
[15:32:30] <roycroft> half the cost of a set of bearings, and i'm not going to replace the bearings unless they start making more noise
[15:32:36] <roycroft> or seize up suddenly
[15:32:42] <gloops> can you mount the tool in line with z? like facing the chuck
[15:32:45] <fragalot> but a paper shim MIGHT help a tiny bit, as it increases friction if the surface isn't perfectly parallel
[15:33:35] <pink_vampire> and if you open the big nut that hold the tool post, that make it flex even more
[15:36:57] <gloops> ok, dont open the big nut
[15:37:24] <pink_vampire> i took a picture now
[15:37:43] <fragalot> and don't over-tighten those 3 screws
[15:37:55] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com
[15:38:23] <pink_vampire> i can push a filler gauge in the middle there
[15:38:42] <pink_vampire> and the shim is just 3/16 tool
[15:38:45] <fragalot> your lathe tool is sticking out too far, and is not very well supported by the looks of it
[15:40:22] <pink_vampire> but this is how they made it
[15:40:33] <gloops> you might just get that 3rd crucial bolt on that tool if you pull it back
[15:41:25] <gloops> the leverage from the tip of the tool back to the clamping point is important here pink_vampire
[15:41:32] <gloops> reduce it
[15:41:57] <pink_vampire> it is 1/4" tool
[15:42:13] <gloops> the amount it is sticking out from the toolpost
[15:42:33] <pink_vampire> it is very small tool
[15:42:42] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com
[15:43:12] <gloops> you only the job to clear the toolpost, you dont need an inch and half of spare tool sticking out, its causing leverage thats moving the tool
[15:43:43] <fragalot> pink_vampire: you also have nothing directly below the tool where the screw pushes down on it
[15:43:52] <gloops> you also need packing UNDER every bolt
[15:44:00] <gloops> its just bending the tool
[15:44:08] <fragalot> so reduce stick-out as much as possible like gloops is suggesting, and put something under every single place the bolt pushes down
[15:44:57] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com the tool
[15:45:39] <fragalot> clamp it so the first screw is right behind the insert, where that mark is
[15:45:45] <gloops> these things are often forgotten with industrial machines, but theyre vital for smaller hobby type machines, its all about knowing how to tweak and milk that thing to get acceptable results
[15:45:52] <fragalot> BUT, but something underneath every point the bolts push down on it
[15:46:04] <fragalot> gloops: it's just as vital for big machines
[15:46:48] <gloops> fragalot well the same principles apply of course, but you can get away with being slack with much heavier duty tools and posts and bolts and so on
[15:46:55] <fragalot> true
[15:47:03] <gregcnc> wind the compound all the way back, and that compound setup is known to be uh subpar
[15:47:50] <fragalot> yeah, I got rid of mine all together on my lathe for most jobs
[15:47:52] <pink_vampire> there better tool post?
[15:48:06] <fragalot> pink_vampire: nearly every quick-change toolpost out there will be better
[15:48:07] <gloops> you do want the jibs erring on tight
[15:49:17] <fragalot> I personally like the dixon style toolholders
[15:49:25] <pink_vampire> there is no play on the gibs
[15:49:30] <fragalot> just because the chinese clones I can get fairly locally appear to be consistent in quality
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[15:50:19] <pink_vampire> how is multifix?
[15:50:28] <fragalot> fantastic if you can afford it
[15:51:19] <fragalot> https://photos.app.goo.gl <-- this is my lathe setup from god knows how long ago
[15:51:28] <fragalot> compound has been replaced with a solid chunk of tool steel
[15:51:53] <fragalot> with the toolchange block partly recessed to ensure it has absolutely nowhere to go
[15:51:56] <pink_vampire> how do you cut tapers?
[15:52:04] <fragalot> and it's bolted down with an M16x0.75 thread because I could.
[15:52:16] <fragalot> pink_vampire: remove that block & put the compound back on
[15:52:33] <fragalot> 95% of what I need to do on my lathe works with just that block
[15:52:43] <fragalot> and it's well worth the extra rigidity on that tiny thing
[15:53:31] <pink_vampire> how do you chamfer?
[15:53:46] <fragalot> HSS toolbit ground to whatever angle I need
[15:54:08] <fragalot> that little lathe will do chamfers or form tools up to ~4mm before it chatters
[15:54:44] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com
[15:54:50] <pink_vampire> i did it on steel
[15:54:59] <pink_vampire> and i want to make it in brass
[15:55:12] <pink_vampire> or bronze
[15:56:16] <fragalot> 350rpm seems awfully slow for that part
[15:56:33] <fragalot> but the main issue you are having with your tool is because of how you've got it clamped up
[15:56:46] <fragalot> the tool is rocking back & forth over the toolbit you have stacked under it
[15:57:16] <fragalot> so you only have a single point where it clamps, giving it an easy spot to rotate on
[15:57:16] <pink_vampire> do you think with better tool post it will be better?
[15:57:32] <fragalot> yes, but I also think you can do it better with your current toolpost
[15:57:34] <gloops> not if you clamp the same
[15:57:56] <pink_vampire> clamp what?
[15:58:06] <fragalot> hang on i'll make a quick sketch
[15:58:20] <pink_vampire> thanks
[15:58:34] <gloops> the bolt, needs to be pressing the tool onto something solid, the rear bolt holding your tool has nothing underneath it
[15:58:55] <gloops> the bolt is not securing the tool to anything, put the pack under the bolt
[15:59:13] <pink_vampire> you mean the bolt in the middle?
[15:59:30] <gloops> yes, look at the packing in relation to that bolt
[16:00:30] <gloops> not so common - https://www.ebay.co.uk
[16:00:54] <pink_vampire> nehhh
[16:01:16] <fragalot> pink_vampire: https://imgur.com
[16:01:32] <fragalot> green = screws, brown = tool, purple or blue = the 'shim'
[16:01:53] <pink_vampire> i see what you mean
[16:02:41] <pink_vampire> this is the only close enough shim i have
[16:02:59] <pink_vampire> maybe i need to machine something
[16:03:00] <fragalot> then find something else where you have 2 of, or that is long enough
[16:03:03] <fragalot> yes!
[16:03:10] <fragalot> do that.
[16:03:25] <pink_vampire> but i want QCTP anyway
[16:03:37] <fragalot> do that too.
[16:03:39] <gloops> you should have a box full of packs
[16:03:40] <fragalot> :-)
[16:03:43] <pink_vampire> this way i don't want to put any more time in to that one
[16:04:19] <pink_vampire> gloops: this is something that you buy? or made?
[16:04:28] <fragalot> make
[16:04:44] <fragalot> any old crap with an even thickness can be used
[16:04:52] <gloops> packs? just save any useful looking bits of steel, offcuts etc
[16:05:13] <fragalot> you could probably even just shove a parallel under there
[16:05:35] <pink_vampire> no!!!!!!
[16:06:30] <pink_vampire> what size of multifix do i need?
[16:06:42] <gloops> place i worked years ago, the old timers knew the exact thickness of different newspapers, tin foils, cigarette packets and so on, packing is a science
[16:06:43] <fragalot> what size is your lathe
[16:07:07] <pink_vampire> you men the original tool post?
[16:07:33] <fragalot> that too
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[16:09:22] <pink_vampire> 17" of travel on the Z, 3.5" on the X, 2" on the compound
[16:10:31] <fragalot> pink_vampire: here are the sizes that are available: http://www.eurospares.com
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[16:13:52] <pink_vampire> the tool post (the 8 bolt thing) is 55mm X 55mm
[16:18:19] <Papagno> Hi at all. i have a problem with actual master with external_offset . in sim/axis/external_offset/jwp_z.ini if coomand g0 x100, the x axis run at 114mm/min , but max_velocity in ini file is =2 (120mm/min). this because parameter the exsternal offset : OFFSET_AV_RATIO = 0.05 . if change this , rapid g0 change value , not respect max_velocity value, maxvelocity value is scaled on OFFSET_AV_RATIO = 0.05. i thing not normal this . ha
[16:18:19] <Papagno> ve some idea
[16:23:35] <fragalot> no clue, sorry
[16:24:04] <fragalot> you may want to ask on forums, I don't think anyone on IRC here today will be able to answer that
[16:24:49] <gloops> andypugh did attempt an answer, the question is not clear
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[18:06:12] <Deejay> gn8
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[18:46:32] <_unreal_> just sold my truck finally
[18:46:40] <_unreal_> the truck owes me nothing
[18:46:59] <_unreal_> been a loyal old chap
[18:47:29] <renesis> i dont think trucks work like that
[18:48:45] <_unreal_> ?
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[19:33:31] <ziper> _unreal_, how much?
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[19:35:09] <_unreal_> junk car buyer $220
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[19:35:26] <ziper> that bad?
[19:35:29] <_unreal_> ?
[19:35:36] <_unreal_> 93 ranger
[19:35:38] <ziper> i was truck shopping
[19:35:42] <_unreal_> manual
[19:35:46] <ziper> I looked at one of those
[19:35:51] <ziper> regular cab
[19:35:58] <_unreal_> and it spent 20+ years in maine
[19:36:05] <ziper> extremely uncomfrotable, my back was sore after only driving around the block
[19:36:06] <_unreal_> this one was the extended bed
[19:36:19] <_unreal_> nice old truck but just to old to tired
[19:36:23] <ziper> i couldnt find a pickup i liked so I bought a volvo
[19:36:31] <_unreal_> ouch
[19:37:47] <a-u> My old van was loyal, but after a hit-n-run folded the left corner, the insurance co. said my van couldn't work like that.
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[21:29:06] <pink_vampire> DOne!
[21:29:19] <Tom_L> so you say
[21:41:01] <pcw_home> The 2017 date code pumpernickel from the back of the refrigerator shelf was a big hit with the sheep, wonder how long it keeps?
[21:41:47] <pink_vampire> I just love it
[21:42:10] <pcw_home> no mold nothing obvious wrong
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[21:51:25] <Wolf__> 0.o
[21:58:55] <pink_vampire> https://imgur.com
[21:59:53] <pink_vampire> the new wiring is done!!!
[22:00:40] <pink_vampire> Wolf__: pcw_home Tom_L
[22:03:44] <Tom_L> looks good from here
[22:04:17] <Wolf__> wiring cabinet bigger then mill =P
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[22:08:59] <pink_vampire> i know it is large but i like to see what I'm doing, and make changes over time easy
[22:09:28] <Wolf__> looks good tho, would expect to see a machine next to it the size of a bedroom =D
[22:11:12] <Wolf__> I’m more of someone who would stuff all of that in to something the size of a breadbox lol
[22:12:16] <pink_vampire> just the C axis stuff is one din rail
[22:15:31] <_unreal_> pink_vampire, I get cool stuff all the time from the boats
[22:16:16] <pink_vampire> _unreal_: what do you mean?
[22:16:26] <_unreal_> dat4032 and dat4531d
[22:16:50] <_unreal_> expensive mount hardware
[22:16:55] <_unreal_> they just toss and upgrade
[22:17:47] <pink_vampire> what kind of cool stuff?
[22:18:38] <Wolf__> any flir day/night systems =)
[22:18:45] <_unreal_> data control
[22:18:49] <_unreal_> serial network controllers
[22:18:58] <_unreal_> err NETWORK serial controls
[22:19:08] <_unreal_> I could list all kinds of stuff I have on hand
[22:19:38] <_unreal_> mostly to do with power control 120v 220v DC
[22:20:20] <_unreal_> flir?
[22:20:25] <_unreal_> not sure what that is?
[22:21:11] <Wolf__> https://www.flir.com
[22:22:00] <Wolf__> gimbal stabilized day/thermal camera systems
[22:23:14] <_unreal_> I have installed cameras like that
[22:23:55] <pink_vampire> i need to clean here
[22:25:09] <Wolf__> guessing the serial data stuff is for navi or drive by wire syste?
[22:25:15] <Wolf__> system
[22:25:59] <_unreal_> no
[22:26:04] * Wolf__ doesnt know much about boats, except they are money pits
[22:26:07] <_unreal_> control systems
[22:26:17] <_unreal_> litterally rs232 over network converters
[22:26:41] <_unreal_> in rack style devices like pink_vampire's rack thing
[22:27:00] <pink_vampire> it is a gun cabinet
[22:27:12] <_unreal_> i'm sure
[22:27:27] <_unreal_> do any of you run ubuntu?
[22:27:43] <pink_vampire> debian
[22:28:32] <_unreal_> driving me crazy I dont have a system currently that I can use to compile a kernel for my tinkerboard https://www.armbian.com https://www.armbian.com
[22:28:45] <_unreal_> I just need to compile the RT kernel
[22:29:01] <_unreal_> then I can start moving forward with my cnc project
[22:29:06] <pink_vampire> it is like a rpi?
[22:29:35] <_unreal_> same form factor but 2x cpu 2x mem 1/10 more in price
[22:29:56] <pink_vampire> i have rpi 3
[22:29:58] <_unreal_> pink_vampire, https://drive.google.com
[22:30:14] <_unreal_> https://drive.google.com
[22:30:16] <pink_vampire> i want to control light with it
[22:30:21] <Wolf__> I have compiled using a live boot usb iso, installed on to sd card, boot sd and use that to compile, then installed kernel on new machine
[22:30:33] <_unreal_> https://drive.google.com https://drive.google.com
[22:32:24] <_unreal_> pink_vampire, I built the mold to make the shell
[22:32:59] <pink_vampire> insane!
[22:33:12] <_unreal_> https://drive.google.com
[22:33:13] <pink_vampire> look amazing
[22:33:24] <_unreal_> that shell is for RPI like SBC's
[22:33:45] <pink_vampire> it is going to be cnc controller?
[22:33:49] <_unreal_> yes
[22:34:11] <_unreal_> I just need to get the damn real time kernel built for it and I can install linuxcnc
[22:34:13] <pink_vampire> i want to build an inverted bipod cnc
[22:34:22] <_unreal_> but I dont have a system currently that I can load ubuntu on
[22:34:47] <_unreal_> hum
[22:35:56] <_unreal_> What sucks is I only have one latop I could "install" on but its display is no good
[22:36:26] <Wolf__> doh, external monitor?
[22:36:39] <_unreal_> and I really dont want to try and get it hooked upto this monitor because I'm using this SHIT desk.... had to give my good desk up when I moved south :( killed me
[22:36:56] <_unreal_> told my fam. I'd send them money soon as I could to ship it down
[22:37:00] <_unreal_> FUCKERS SOLD IT
[22:37:29] <_unreal_> to much weight
[22:37:41] <_unreal_> couldnt bring it :(
[22:37:45] <Wolf__> I used my cad computer to compile, you dont need to install linux on to the PC hdd, you can use usb iso and then to SD card in a usb adapter
[22:38:10] <pink_vampire> is that arm cpu?
[22:38:12] <Wolf__> just boot the computer off the usb
[22:39:06] <_unreal_> pink_vampire, the tinker board yes
[22:39:30] <_unreal_> there are 2 versions one is cheap the other is very expensive and almost noting extra
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[22:39:40] <pink_vampire> can i use the same computer to drive 2 machines?
[22:39:44] <_unreal_> the difference is one has emmc on board the other does not
[22:39:58] <_unreal_> pink_vampire, depends on your software
[22:40:32] <_unreal_> if your using grbl yes easy
[22:40:43] <_unreal_> if your trying to use mach or linuxcnc I'm not sure
[22:41:23] <pink_vampire> i'm talking about linux cnc
[22:41:31] <_unreal_> I dont know
[22:42:08] <_unreal_> depends on the controller I would guess, though I dont know if it can control multi machines, then again if your using a network interface for command/control I'm sure the option is there
[22:42:42] <_unreal_> not option, opportunity
[22:43:22] <pink_vampire> I'm using LPT
[22:43:34] <pink_vampire> I just want to control the bipod
[22:43:54] <pink_vampire> https://www.maslowcnc.com
[22:43:59] <pink_vampire> like that one
[22:49:50] <_unreal_> looking
[22:52:24] <_unreal_> I remember when that came out
[22:52:28] <_unreal_> was all the range
[22:52:33] <_unreal_> rage
[22:53:55] <Wolf__> I like the concept, efficient use of space if you wall mount it like a panel saw
[22:53:59] <pink_vampire> do you know how to make it in linux cnc?
[22:54:27] <pink_vampire> Wolf__: this is way i liked it
[22:54:47] <pink_vampire> i want to replace the router with the dremel 4000
[22:54:51] <Wolf__> should be just a matter of programing the kins
[22:55:01] <pink_vampire> and make it 3*4 foot
[22:55:31] <pink_vampire> and use wires instead of the chain
[22:56:57] <_unreal_> wires will loose there location
[22:57:51] <pink_vampire> no for the stuff i want to do
[22:59:02] <Wolf__> 3x4’ work area? or frame?
[22:59:18] <pink_vampire> frame
[23:00:34] <Wolf__> wonder if that design scales well, I would think lighter weight tool sled may not work well
[23:01:27] <pink_vampire> i want it as a portable cnc machine
[23:01:56] <_unreal_> a scaled down vesion of that machine?
[23:02:46] <pink_vampire> correct
[23:03:16] <_unreal_> even using a dremel I would presume that it still needs a considerable amount of weight
[23:03:33] <_unreal_> what would you be cutting?
[23:03:48] <pink_vampire> pvc foam
[23:04:05] <_unreal_> hum
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