#linuxcnc | Logs for 2019-03-31

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[00:03:46] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com
[00:03:49] <XXCoder> I love it!
[00:08:27] <pink_vampire> when you have 4bars for feed rate, it is soo cool to see them dancing with a complex gcode
[00:15:49] <net|> lol at humming bird, pretty good video thanks for the share.
[00:17:56] <XXCoder> no plm
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[00:54:40] <infornography> You ever spend hours working on something that you're pretty sure will not work, but oh well?
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[00:55:39] <net|> infornography , hours of frustration or just regular fun ?
[00:57:13] <infornography> at this point in my life I'm not sure there is much of a difference
[00:57:15] <net|> i get that alot trying new code projects out
[00:57:46] <net|> sometimes it yeilds nothing usable after hours of code editing
[00:58:01] <infornography> Yeah that sounds about right
[00:58:45] <net|> the lesson you can take from it would be that you can identify it in less hours next time if you want to procede
[00:59:40] <net|> just hope its easy to forget and easy to remember when encountering something like it. thats why cannabis is great
[00:59:48] <net|> its like you hardly miss those hours
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[01:00:57] <infornography> I'm trying to make a stepper driver with a PIC, I think it's gonna be really slow and unused in the end
[01:01:45] <net|> use it for something else when it works
[01:02:12] <net|> maybe a shot pouring machine
[01:02:31] <Jymmm> a funnel?
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[01:03:00] <net|> why not buy a ready made stepper driver ?
[01:04:23] <infornography> thats no fun
[01:04:35] <net|> mechantronics make really nice drivers for under 150 last i bought one
[01:05:26] <infornography> it's just interesting to put something together I guess
[01:05:59] <infornography> I have some cheap surplus steppers and power supplies
[01:06:05] <net|> https://docs.google.com
[01:07:34] <net|> i liked it because all the parts were replacable
[01:08:12] <net|> i blew a few fuses and driver chips trying to figure out wiring yet it still runs like new
[01:08:49] <net|> found out to use 5v instead when finding the driving order on nema 36
[01:10:18] <net|> i have a fancy unipolar one too but it made too much noise and was not nearly as accurate
[01:11:36] <infornography> what ICs are they using on that mechantronics?
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[01:36:11] <pink_vampire> https://www.youtube.com added to the list
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[02:38:53] <PL7icnc> Good Weather in Germany
[02:39:13] <PL7icnc> we Lost one Hour this Night :D
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[02:52:16] <XXCoder> bleh
[02:52:18] <XXCoder> hey
[02:52:46] <pink_vampire> hi
[02:53:53] <PL7icnc> Good Day i am in Germany
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[03:00:20] <PL7icnc> Good Morning Mr gloops
[03:11:09] <PL7icnc> Bye out for Sunday walking
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[04:53:11] <Deejay> moin
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[05:41:14] <Tom_L> morning
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[06:26:47] <jthornton> morning
[06:27:06] <XXCoder> morning
[06:33:28] <Tom_L> 30�F, Hi 51
[06:33:45] <jthornton> same here
[07:00:45] <Tom_L> ok sim works in 2.7, upgrading to 2.8 next
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[07:10:00] <Tom_L> under 2.8 the sim install is broke
[07:11:03] <jthornton> how did you upgrade?
[07:11:24] <jthornton> running several master uspace and sim install works
[07:11:25] <Tom_L> http://gnipsel.com
[07:11:45] <Tom_L> installed 7 then 8
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[07:12:22] <jthornton> both from buildbot?
[07:12:41] <Tom_L> yes, i copied and pasted the lines
[07:13:15] <jthornton> did you remove the 7 deb line from the package manager?
[07:13:51] <Tom_L> the sim i had installed shows 2.8 so it aparently updated
[07:13:54] <Tom_L> but no i didn't
[07:14:23] <jthornton> I've never installed 7 then 8 so with both deb lines in the package manager there might be problems
[07:18:54] <Tom_L> updating now
[07:19:56] <Tom_L> made no difference
[07:20:16] <Tom_L> but i've got axis sim and my config so that's really all i need
[07:20:55] <jthornton> I have no clue what got trashed by doing what you did...
[07:22:21] <Tom_L> me either
[07:22:46] <Tom_L> maybe i should skip the 2.7 install and go straight to 2.8
[07:23:18] <jthornton> that's the way I did it every time, there is no reason to install 2.7 if you want 2.8
[07:23:23] <Tom_L> it shouldn't matter though
[07:23:32] <Tom_L> i mean, it should work either way
[07:23:35] <jthornton> looks like it does lol
[07:24:30] <Tom_L> the first time i did it i wanted to test my config with preempt-rt and ethernet so i went with 2.7
[07:27:10] <Tom_L> in doing so i found a bug with linuxcnc as well
[07:51:23] <jthornton> you should file a bug report
[07:51:54] <Tom_L> i think i did
[07:52:25] <Tom_L> wasn't the first occurance of it though, someone else reported it
[07:57:56] <jthornton> wow chris fixed the stepconf bug
[07:58:19] <jthornton> too bad the buildbot is broken...
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[08:00:44] <Tom_L> one had to do with run from here and another was with the near component and spindle-at-speed
[08:01:34] <Tom_L> 2.7 ignored it but 2.8 complained when i had the near component commented out by accident :)
[08:07:17] <jthornton> you should add a bug about copy error when upgrading from 2.7 to 2.8
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[09:20:09] <jthornton> Tom_L: what method did you use for single point thread milling?
[09:21:42] <gregcnc> method?
[09:28:38] <jthornton> he wrote a script to generate the code in something or other
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[10:34:48] <Tom_L> jthornton, here's the macro i did for my cad cam: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[10:35:30] <Tom_L> generates lead in lead out moves and helix
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[10:36:55] <Tom_L> leadin/out is different depending on the thread
[10:37:06] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
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[10:53:44] <jthornton> Tom_L: thanks, I should be able to translate that to python
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[11:05:04] <Tom_L> yeah probably. i had to do it the way i did because of the way it inserts elements into the model if it looks a little backwards
[11:07:23] <Tom_L> there's an internal and external one there as well if you want to view them separate
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[11:08:55] <Tom_L> one more round on this install...
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[12:14:06] <Tom_L> JT-Shop i followed your install to the letter and 2.8 won't let me save sims
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[12:19:31] <jthornton> your starting linuxcnc configuration selector from the menu and picking a sim from sample configurations?
[12:21:58] <jthornton> Tom_L: when you installed debian 9 did you put in a root password?
[12:22:50] <Tom_L> no
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[12:23:38] <Tom_L> and yes i selected from the menu
[12:23:52] <CaptHindsight> what is the name of Debian 9?
[12:24:03] <jthornton> followed my install for linuxcnc or the whole shebang?
[12:24:32] <Tom_L> the whole thing from debian 9 to lcnc 2.8
[12:24:41] <jthornton> Tom_L: run linuxcnc from a terminal and see if it gives you the error
[12:24:42] <CaptHindsight> Debian 9 "Stretch"
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[12:26:05] <Tom_test> Error in startup script: error deleting "/home/tom/linuxcnc/nc_files/gcmc_lib": directory not empty
[12:26:07] <Tom_test> while executing
[12:26:09] <Tom_test> "file delete $linkname"
[12:28:02] <Tom_L> if i delete the nc_files directory it works
[12:30:01] <Tom_L> that's a gmoccapy directory i already had
[12:30:24] <Tom_L> lemme try to delete just that
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[12:34:11] <Tom_test> Error in startup script: error deleting "/home/tom/linuxcnc/nc_files/ngcgui_lib": directory not empty
[12:34:42] <Tom_L> why does it care what files i have in what directory anyway?
[12:34:45] <Tom_L> how stupid
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[12:35:33] <Tom_L> those are files and directories i had from 2.7 that were just fine there
[12:36:15] <Tom_L> next one it will complain about will probably be ncgui_lib
[12:36:42] <Tom_L> err remap_lib
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[12:38:11] <_abc_> Hi. Is the download from linuxcnc.org very slow today or what?
[12:39:58] <Tom_L> no
[12:40:27] <_abc_> It stalled twice already. Also: G92 question: if the unit set with G20 or G21 before G92 then the G92 will interpret all coords in the current unit, correct? Conversely, if G92.3 is used to retrieve stored coords, after a G20/21 change, the coords will be wrong? Correct? For G92.3 ?
[12:40:35] <Tom_L> i may be sucking it dry though. done 4 installs this morning
[12:40:44] <_abc_> IT'S YOUR FAULT!
[12:40:50] <_abc_> Why not use a local copy damnit?
[12:41:05] <_abc_> What's the size of the file anyway? the iso?
[12:41:13] <Tom_L> that would be #5 & 6
[12:41:27] <Tom_L> which one?
[12:41:37] <_abc_> wheezy-iso
[12:41:42] <Tom_L> not very big
[12:41:49] <_abc_> Jesus. You work in marketing?
[12:42:00] <_abc_> Is it a dvd or a cdrom image
[12:42:11] <_abc_> I see 1.1GB so dvd?
[12:42:16] <Tom_L> one or the other.. it's a round shiny disk
[12:42:25] <Tom_L> :)
[12:42:26] <_abc_> No, it is small, black and squarish
[12:42:34] <_abc_> Tom_L: troll day?
[12:42:43] <Tom_L> no just having my share of issues too
[12:43:40] <_abc_> I am serious. What about G92.3? Assume this runs: G20 \n G90 \n G0 X100 Y100 \n G92 ; then work happens, then the machine is shut down, next day:
[12:43:49] <Tom_L> 232783872 bytes
[12:44:00] <Tom_L> for the 64bit iso
[12:44:24] <_abc_> G21 \n G90 \n G21 \n G92.3
[12:44:24] <Tom_L> i don't think i use G92
[12:44:55] <_abc_> This will result in an error, right? Or does the G21 changing the previously remembered (??) G20 also update all the variables like those used by G92.3
[12:45:01] <Tom_L> nope don't use that one
[12:45:10] <Tom_L> i use G54..59
[12:45:14] <_abc_> Ok, I'll wait for someone who does, then
[12:45:38] <_abc_> Tom_L: where did you get that image? I used http://linuxcnc.org which has only one link
[12:45:54] <Tom_L> umm
[12:46:03] <_abc_> Also, why no mirrors?
[12:46:06] <Tom_L> right now it's stored on my data drive
[12:46:16] <_abc_> Tom_L: 4th time :)
[12:46:53] <Tom_L> no big deal, it's a test pc and i'm testing the fail of the install
[12:47:10] <_abc_> Just use a local copy. But you are cryptic. Where did you get the iso?
[12:47:18] <Tom_L> aparently 2.8 needs a clean slate to copy sims
[12:47:34] <Tom_L> i hand coded all the bits ?
[12:47:36] <_abc_> You are on 2.8?
[12:47:40] <Tom_L> off their website of course
[12:47:44] <Tom_L> i am now
[12:47:51] <_abc_> Do you have a link to it?
[12:47:59] <Tom_L> probably
[12:48:12] <_abc_> I'll put you on ignore soon. Troll no more.
[12:48:28] <Tom_L> pfft
[12:48:33] <Tom_L> you want help right?
[12:49:17] <Tom_L> http://linuxcnc.org
[12:50:25] <Tom_L> www.linuxcnc.org/linuxcnc-2.7-wheezy.iso
[12:50:38] <_abc_> This is a joke, right?
[12:50:42] <_abc_> You said you're on 2.8
[12:50:51] <Tom_L> i am but i thought you wanted wheezy
[12:50:55] <_abc_> And you said there's a 2.2G image. The one you linked is the one I am getting.
[12:51:02] <_abc_> I asked where the 2.2G image is.
[12:51:26] <Tom_L> i'm not positive, i've had that one quite a while now
[12:51:46] <_abc_> Then there will be newer ones out. Where are they. Do I have to drill down the site using tools?
[12:51:53] <Tom_L> http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org
[12:51:58] <Tom_L> there are those links
[12:52:23] <Tom_L> but i'm not sure about .iso
[12:53:21] <Tom_L> what exactly are you looking for?
[12:53:32] <_abc_> Right. Now we are getting somewhere. Precisely what you linked.
[12:53:49] <Tom_L> all you had to do was ask :)
[12:54:51] <gloops> all this fuss over clicking on a link and receiving a free and excellent control system? lol
[12:55:00] <Tom_L> :)
[12:55:12] <_abc_> gloops: a what?
[12:55:37] * Tom_L hooks _abc_ up to lcnc and hits the ESTOP
[12:56:41] <Tom_L> gloops aparently 2.8 is a little fussy when it comes to copying sims
[12:58:47] <Tom_L> as i predicted.. it gripes about remap_lib being in nc_files too
[12:59:28] <Tom_L> finally.. that was the last one i had to remove to get it to save a sim
[13:01:09] <Tom_L> i had moved all that stuff over when i was working on the spindle orient code
[13:02:05] <_abc_> save a sim?
[13:02:11] <_abc_> Save what, the images?
[13:02:28] <Tom_L> a simulated configuration file
[13:02:31] <Tom_L> from the menu
[13:03:07] <Tom_L> only in 2.8 from what i gather
[13:04:09] <_abc_> Does the sim version require only the uspace or also the core?
[13:07:34] <Tom_L> dunno
[13:07:42] <Tom_L> jthornton ^^ figured it out
[13:10:20] <jthornton> Tom_L: so it didn't like having remap_lib in nc_files?
[13:10:24] <jthornton> weird
[13:10:35] <Tom_L> a couple directories there yes
[13:11:00] <jthornton> you would think it would complain instead of failing to do anything lol
[13:11:21] <Tom_L> the behavior changed in 2.8
[13:12:04] <_abc_> Ok 2.7-preempt does sim too
[13:12:12] <Tom_L> ngcgui_lib was another one
[13:12:51] <Tom_L> jthornton, nothing against your install directions :)
[13:12:54] <Tom_L> they worked great
[13:12:57] <_abc_> Tom_L: I assume the iso you are using is custom built.
[13:13:03] <Tom_L> no
[13:13:11] <Tom_L> any iso i have i downloaded
[13:13:14] <_abc_> Is there an official iso for 2.8? I cannot find it.
[13:13:18] <Tom_L> no
[13:13:21] <_abc_> Tom_L: sure, but from where
[13:13:22] <Tom_L> you must build master
[13:13:36] <jthornton> Tom_L: I wonder if it just don't like any subdirectories in nc_files?
[13:13:48] <Tom_L> no, i have lots of others
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[13:14:10] <Tom_L> that would just be silly
[13:14:41] <Tom_L> _abc_ you need to change the repository to point to master then you can upgrade 2.7 to 2.8 on wheezy
[13:14:43] <_abc_> Tom_L: I sort of hate you for all this trolling. http://www.linuxcnc.org link
[13:14:55] <_abc_> No, I need a url as above. Thanks for the lots of time.
[13:14:58] <_abc_> </sarcasm>
[13:15:08] <Tom_L> always glad to get in the way
[13:15:20] <_abc_> It shows. Also that is antique
[13:15:26] <_abc_> Where would the new ones be? 2.8?
[13:15:38] <Tom_L> there aren't any iso of 2.8
[13:15:45] <Tom_L> you build it because it's master
[13:15:50] <_abc_> You said you got a 2.8 iso 2.2GB in size?
[13:16:08] <Tom_L> http://www.linuxcnc.org
[13:16:09] <jthornton> the only iso's are 2.7
[13:16:13] <Tom_L> there are those
[13:16:16] <jthornton> that's 2.7
[13:16:17] <_abc_> Or is that what you built. Now I am really confused. You said you downloaded "it" 3 times today already.
[13:16:27] <_abc_> What did you get, the 2.7 official image? Thanks.
[13:16:34] <Tom_L> at first i wasn't sure what you were after
[13:16:38] <Tom_L> now i'm really not
[13:16:49] <jthornton> http://gnipsel.com
[13:17:07] <jthornton> install instructions for everything current
[13:17:10] <Tom_L> i _think_ you want to run 2.8 on wheezy right?
[13:17:30] <_abc_> I am now getting 2.7 default install image, I hope it is r14 or r13
[13:17:42] <Tom_L> if it isn't you can do an update
[13:17:45] <_abc_> http://www.linuxcnc.org this
[13:17:57] <Tom_L> and then if you want to run 2.8 you can update to that as well
[13:17:57] <_abc_> I probably can't do an update and won't for bandwidth reasons and for time reasons.
[13:18:18] <_abc_> I need to test/resurrect a broken machine using a usb stick and little else in rustical conditions.
[13:20:37] <_abc_> What's the wheezi image repo equivalent to http://www.linuxcnc.org ?
[13:22:17] <Tom_L> are you wanting to run 2.8 on wheezy?
[13:22:24] <Tom_L> or 2.7?
[13:22:46] <_abc_> I am getting the official 2.7 image, the only one linked in the main project page
[13:23:00] <Tom_L> i believe the 2.7 iso will install then you do updates to get to 2.7.14
[13:23:16] <Tom_L> not sure what 2.7.xxx the iso is exactly
[13:23:21] <_abc_> That would be good except the only iso I saw for 2.7 was r13
[13:24:06] <Tom_L> i don't think they publish a new iso every time they make updates
[13:24:38] <_abc_> They do not.
[13:24:56] <Tom_L> sry for the confusion earlier but i wasn't sure what you wanted really
[13:26:05] <Tom_L> and i _did_ update my mill pc to 2.8 from wheezy 2.7 and have been using it a bit
[13:27:16] <Tom_L> jt has a page for that too but i didn't bookmark it
[13:27:23] <_abc_> jthornton: thanks for the gnipsel link, it's the right one
[13:28:19] <_abc_> *-uspace.iso will differ how from normal 2.7 install?
[13:32:57] <_abc_> Great the default iso I got is not one of the ones on http://www.linuxcnc.org
[13:33:23] <Tom_L> no it wouldn't be
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[13:34:02] <Tom_L> those are all master iso for debian 9
[13:34:21] <Tom_L> (stretch)
[13:34:25] <Tom_L> not wheezy
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[14:01:05] <Tom_test> JT-Shop, http://paste.debian.net
[14:01:21] <Tom_test> installing the QtPyVCP stuff i got that error
[14:01:52] <Tom_test> any ideas?
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[14:03:29] <Tom_test> error: can't copy 'QtDesigner/Qt5.7.1-Py2.7-64bit/libpyqt5_py2.so': doesn't exist or not a regular file
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[14:08:41] <_abc_> Is there a default password on the default live wheezy 2.7 iso?
[14:09:39] <_abc_> Tom_test: sudo updatedb && sudo locate libpyqt5_py2.so
[14:09:53] <_abc_> then file on $output from above
[14:09:58] <_abc_> sudo is not needed for locate
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[14:15:36] <Tom_L> command not found on both updatedb and locate
[14:16:03] <Jymmm> Tom_L: what distro?
[14:16:11] <Tom_L> no default password i'm aware of
[14:16:13] <Tom_L> stretch
[14:16:41] <_abc_> Tom_L: that is err odd
[14:16:56] <Tom_L> https://qtpyvcp.kcjengr.com
[14:17:00] <Tom_L> trying to install that
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[14:18:08] <Jymmm> Tom_L: It looks like you have to: sudo apt-get install locate
[14:18:15] <_abc_> Tom_L: sudo apt-get install mlocate && sudo updatedb && locate $whatever
[14:18:38] <_abc_> Why would mlocate not be installed on a default system?!
[14:18:40] <_abc_> Wow.
[14:19:09] <_abc_> What's next, systemd based very fast logging which fills disks in seconds with useless message repeats? (been there, done that, am on devuan now for that reason)
[14:19:50] <Tom_test> unable to locate updatedb
[14:20:40] <Jymmm> Tom_L: apt-cache search updatedb
[14:20:51] <Jymmm> err
[14:21:29] <Jymmm> Tom_L: sudo apt-get update; apt-cache search updatedb
[14:22:38] <_abc_> Is it in the cache?
[14:24:32] <Tom_test> meh, i'm takin a break
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[14:38:39] <jthornton> Tom_L: are you installing for dev or the quick install?
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[14:39:04] <jthornton> https://qtpyvcp.kcjengr.com
[14:39:10] <jthornton> that page?
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[14:39:36] <Tom_L> yup
[14:42:11] <infornography> ISP@AT&T:~$ IRC -k
[14:42:15] <infornography> :(
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[14:43:27] <jthornton> hazzy-m: have you seen this error before https://paste.ubuntu.com
[14:43:56] * jthornton uses paste.ubuntu.com cause it's less clutter and word wraps
[14:44:07] <Tom_L> ok
[14:44:22] <jthornton> Tom_L: which command gave you that error?
[14:44:30] <Tom_L> fell off the side of the page here :)
[14:44:50] <Tom_L> the 2nd yellow box i think
[14:45:06] <Tom_L> i can run it again for sure...
[14:45:22] <jthornton> the dependencies is a rather long line did you get any errors with that?
[14:45:32] <Tom_L> not that i recall no
[14:45:44] <Tom_L> gimme a sec to finish something then i'll test it again
[14:46:04] <jthornton> ok, I'll be back in a bit going out to the shop for a bit
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[15:08:53] <Tom_L> jthornton, http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[15:09:04] <Tom_L> the whole install so far
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[15:26:23] <Loetmichel> re from a "inheritance meeting" for my grandma. my dad's already dead so i inherited 1/12 of an 1ha patch of farmland... now the city decided to upgrade that land to "commercial area", and offered 14 eur per square meter. one of the brothers of my dad already did some haggling and got it up to 16 eur... now the others want it to be 18 eur minium. So there were 2 parties on that meeting: a
[15:26:23] <Loetmichel> few of us wanted to sell it for 16 or try to get 17 and if that fails sell for 16, the others said 18 eur and if not then we will not sell"... which could result in the city simply putting the commercial area on the other side of town and making that patch of grass worthless again. and they FOUGHT tooth and nail over that. :-(
[15:28:33] <Loetmichel> why do brothers and sisters fight over such few 1000 eur? is that worth it to fight with your siblings over?
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[15:30:37] <fragalot> 'sup
[15:34:22] <jthornton> Tom_L: error: can't copy 'QtDesigner/Qt5.7.1-Py2.7-64bit/libpyqt5_py2.so': doesn't exist or not a regular file
[15:34:52] <jthornton> I wonder what that is???
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[15:39:12] <jthornton> Tom_L: does qtpyvcp -h work?
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[15:52:39] <jthornton> Tom_L: hazzy-m just pushed the path fix for libpyqt5 so uninstall then install and it should be ok
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[16:00:23] <hazzy-m> testing
[16:01:35] <hazzy-m> hurray!
[16:01:50] <Jymmm> jthornton: how many acres you on?
[16:06:35] <jthornton> 9.00000000000000
[16:07:12] <Jymmm> jthornton: are you SURE it's not 9.00000000000001 ???
[16:07:55] <jthornton> yea we measured it with laser from space
[16:08:22] * Loetmichel kicks a boundary stone on jthorntons property a bit
[16:08:29] <Loetmichel> measure again ;)
[16:09:01] <Jymmm> jthornton: but but but lasers are straight, earth is round,
[16:09:57] <Jymmm> jthornton: 18m video, -25F for the low, you could totally do this... https://www.youtube.com
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[16:17:45] <Tom_L> i'll check when i get back
[16:17:46] <hazzy-m> our neighbor has a geothermal system, both heats and cools very well and cheap to run, BUT it cost a lot to install
[16:18:18] <fragalot> Jymmm: not to mention lasers get deflected by changes in density of the fluid (ie. air) they move through
[16:18:23] <hazzy-m> they had a well drilling rig on site for a few days, probably drilled 15 50-70ft deep wells in the granite
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[16:19:22] <Jymmm> hazzy-m: In the video he just uses 4" drainage pipe, maybe 6 at a time , 150 foot long.
[16:19:33] <Jymmm> 8ft deep
[16:20:03] <Tom_L> jthornton, command not found
[16:20:43] <Tom_L> uninstall what?
[16:20:46] <Tom_L> and how?
[16:20:51] <Tom_L> bbiab
[16:20:56] <jthornton> ok
[16:21:14] <hazzy-m> Jymmm: if you have enough space that is a great way to do it!
[16:21:36] * hazzy-m does not have fast enough internets to watch a video :(
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[16:23:52] <hazzy-m> Tom_L: since it failed to install you probably don't need to uninstall, but it can't do any harm
[16:23:53] <hazzy-m> ininstall: pip uninstall qtpyvcp
[16:23:54] <hazzy-m> reinstall: pip install git+https://github.com/kcjengr/qtpyvcp.git
[16:24:04] <Jymmm> hazzy-m: https://imgur.com
[16:25:07] <sameee> Hello #linuxcnc - is there a standard hobbyist build thread that someone can link me? I am interested to learn more and perhaps build a machine capable of cutting small bits of acrylic, derlin, and timber
[16:25:08] <hazzy-m> thanks! That looks pretty easy if your already doing site work
[16:27:02] <hazzy-m> hello sameee
[16:28:18] <Jymmm> hazzy-m: https://imgur.com
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[16:31:07] <Jymmm> hazzy-m: 235FT worth he says https://imgur.com
[16:32:56] <_abc_> Is there a way to pause and enter MDI mode from pause?
[16:33:09] <_abc_> M0 or M1 explicitly do not allow MDI. Is there another way.
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[16:38:29] <jthornton> no
[16:40:12] <Jymmm> maybe
[16:40:26] <Jymmm> (kidding, I have no idea)
[16:41:47] <hazzy-m> _abc_: what are you trying to achieve? I believe there is a component that lets you jog while paused ....
[16:42:51] <hazzy-m> Jymmm: that is a lot of pipe!! I guess it is much like a septic field
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[17:04:31] <_abc_> hazzy-m: link to the component? Also the jogging has a G92 option after it?
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[17:22:08] <hazzy-m> _abc_: this is what I was refering too, bit it is very old: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org
[17:23:28] <hazzy-m> again, what are you trying to acheive?
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[17:24:12] <Tom_test> log
[17:24:12] <c-log> Tom_test: Today's Log http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[17:25:30] <hazzy-m> _abc_: found this, so MDI while in AUTO mode does appears to be possible: https://www.youtube.com
[17:26:21] <_abc_> I have a doubt, never made that work.
[17:26:25] <_abc_> And I need it.
[17:26:29] <Tom_test> Successfully installed qtpyvcp-0.2.2+16.g58f0ae2
[17:26:37] <jthornton> I think that is on a branch hazzy-m
[17:26:44] <jthornton> yea Tom_test
[17:27:18] <_abc_> So there is no way to mdi G52 or jog while paused in wheezy based live 2.7?
[17:27:24] <hazzy-m> jthornton: yes, I assume so, now to find which one!
[17:29:27] <Tom_test> were there supposed to be some sim examples installed in config?
[17:29:29] <hazzy-m> _abc_: very unlikly, but I don't dare say its not possible since then some clever chap will prove me wrong lol
[17:29:57] <_abc_> Hey it's 2019, I have to hack a button into the Z axis interface now... no thanks.
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[17:30:42] <hazzy-m> _abc_: if you tell us what you are tyring to do we will be much better able to help
[17:31:01] <_abc_> lift the engraver bit 0.05mm or such when needed
[17:31:38] <hazzy-m> to clear chips? For the rest of the program? untill the end of the next segment?
[17:31:50] <_abc_> Depends.
[17:31:56] <_abc_> Not to clear chips.
[17:32:05] <_abc_> Usually for the rest of the program not always.
[17:32:18] <hazzy-m> when you unpause do you want the tool to follow the initialy programed path?
[17:32:18] <hazzy-m> ok
[17:32:26] <_abc_> There are problem areas on things which are supposed to be flat but are not.
[17:32:45] <Tom_L> from the lcnc menu, it copied the sims but didn't create an icon for them
[17:33:31] <_abc_> jthornton: is this loadable into live wheezy 2.7 iso as shipped? http://wiki.linuxcnc.org
[17:35:02] <hazzy-m> Tom_L: do the sims show up in the config chooser?
[17:35:10] <jthornton> you would have to build a RIP (Run In Place)
[17:35:12] <Tom_test> yeah
[17:35:41] <Tom_test> they show up and copy to the config directory but no icon
[17:36:00] <Rab> Alternatively, can you enter new zero coordinates while paused? E.g. add +0.05 to Z zero.
[17:36:15] <jthornton> did you check make a desktop icon?
[17:36:28] <Tom_test> o_o
[17:36:38] <Tom_test> of course :)
[17:37:06] <jthornton> I've never tried it let me see
[17:37:18] <Tom_test> now it did
[17:37:31] <Tom_test> i chose a different one this time
[17:38:27] <Tom_test> click on the icon and it asks to choose a file
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[17:39:49] <jthornton> which one did you choose?
[17:39:52] <_abc_> jthornton: is it a deliberate decision to omit any jog capability or offset adding (perhaps unidirectional G52) in linuxcnc?
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[17:40:58] <Tom_test> xyz
[17:41:02] <_abc_> Stop at reached point then edit then start at reached point seems to be the only way.
[17:41:10] <Tom_test> doesn't create an icon but copies files
[17:41:34] <jthornton> I just tried xyz and it created the desktop icon and tried all the rest too
[17:42:16] <Tom_test> xyz metric didn't either
[17:43:02] <jthornton> hmm I just tried them all and all of them created icons
[17:43:19] <jthornton> got some twice cause I forgot I already did it lol
[17:44:09] <jthornton> abc probably came from the original code that the NIST created I guess
[17:44:21] <Tom_test> yeah if you run it again it makes a 2nd copy
[17:45:17] <Tom_test> this time it did
[17:45:19] <Tom_test> xyz
[17:45:21] <jthornton> hazzy-m: mhaberler has a branch keyboard-jog-while-paused... but it was last touched in 2013 so it's 6392 commits behind master
[17:45:21] <Tom_test> odd
[17:45:29] <jthornton> yea odd
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[17:45:40] <Tom_test> what do you pick in the vcp chooser>
[17:45:56] <jthornton> still trying to decipher your code lol
[17:45:57] <Tom_test> ?
[17:46:11] <jthornton> mini is save
[17:46:16] <hazzy-m> yes, he also has some vids demoing it, I think that is the same branch ArcEye was using in his video
[17:46:37] <jthornton> Tom_test: does the video tests show up?
[17:46:41] <hazzy-m> they were both in 2012
[17:47:20] * jthornton wanders out to the shop to get his beer
[17:47:44] <hazzy-m> abc: have you looked at the external offsets branch? You could almost certainly do what you want with that, though it might be a bit of work to set up
[17:48:55] <Tom_test> video test are on the menu
[17:49:04] <_abc_> 00:39 < Rab> Alternatively, can you enter new zero coordinates while paused?
[17:49:04] <_abc_> E.g. add +0.05 to Z zero.
[17:49:09] <_abc_> No Rab one can't
[17:49:28] <_abc_> I asked if the stock wheezy has that in it or if the module loads as written
[17:49:31] <Tom_test> pick qtpyvcp_test then what do i choose next?
[17:50:33] <Tom_test> jthornton, what are you trying to decipher?
[17:51:03] <_abc_> Can one call a subr from mdi before starting the program from line X?
[17:52:05] <_abc_> https://forum.linuxcnc.org sounds like another can of worms
[17:54:15] <jthornton> your thread milling program
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[17:55:01] <jthornton> qtpyvcp_test shows the install works, the vkt and opengl test the video card works
[17:56:48] <jthornton> abc the jog while paused is not a module it is a whole copy of linuxcnc that was branched off in 2013 so very old
[17:58:26] <Tom_test> i take it some of these work and some don't?
[18:00:57] <hazzy-m> abc that thread you linked is for a problem with the way gmoccapy reported the spindle speed, LCNC actually behaved as expected when calling the sub
[18:01:44] <jthornton> yea from time to time the examples are borked as Lcvette and TurBoss are always working on probe basic at least
[18:02:05] <Tom_test> ok
[18:02:21] <Tom_test> i'm not near up to speed on it but parts of it work
[18:02:22] <jthornton> you can install some of mine to test out also look in the showcase
[18:03:33] <jthornton> what's that?
[18:04:08] <Tom_test> oh i dunno, i'm just poking around right now
[18:04:43] <Tom_test> what sort of files do you choose in the 'select vcp file dialog?
[18:04:46] <hazzy-m> _abc_: there is some good info in this thread that might give you some ideas on how to aproach your problem
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[18:06:16] <jthornton> for my gui's you don't have to pick a vcp
[18:06:18] <hazzy-m> I am convinced you can solve your problem satisfactorily using stock 2.7 if you are willing to put a little time and effort into it, LinuxCNC is EXTREAMLY versitile
[18:07:12] <Lcvette> Tom_test: Tom, .yaml
[18:07:17] <Lcvette> ?
[18:07:32] <Lcvette> .yml
[18:07:36] <Lcvette> ?
[18:07:48] <Lcvette> I forget but something like that
[18:07:50] <Tom_test> ok
[18:08:21] <Lcvette> Are you trying to open designer or linuxcnc?
[18:08:26] <Tom_test> is linuxcnc supposed to stay open?
[18:08:27] <hazzy-m> _abc_: sorry, forgot to add the link: https://forum.linuxcnc.org
[18:08:35] <Tom_test> i've no idea
[18:08:40] <Tom_test> i'm clicking on an icon
[18:08:59] <Lcvette> Ok
[18:09:18] <Lcvette> If it's the vcp launcher, they should be populated
[18:09:21] <Tom_test> it must have been running but nothing was showing for it
[18:10:53] <Lcvette> And you would choose what vcp you want to launch
[18:11:19] <Lcvette> But I'm running development so maybe mine is different from yours
[18:11:32] <Lcvette> Did you do the development install?
[18:11:37] <Tom_test> i get quite a few errors
[18:11:47] <Tom_test> i did the one jt has on his page
[18:12:12] <Lcvette> I'm on my tablet, but what errors
[18:12:47] <jthornton> Lcvette: looks like pip installs master
[18:12:47] <Tom_test> lemme mess with it a bit before i go there
[18:13:21] <Lcvette> jthornton: is that bad?
[18:13:52] <Lcvette> That would be the most current
[18:14:13] <Lcvette> Not really alockdown version yet..lol
[18:16:03] <jthornton> well it's good because hazzy-m fixed a path error today Tom_test was having
[18:16:33] <Tom_test> leave it to me to break something
[18:16:40] * jthornton watches a pair of cardinals on chicken tv
[18:19:05] <Tom_test> brender loaded ok
[18:19:29] <Tom_test> finally see something other than little boxes
[18:19:54] <Tom_test> how do i check if i have the devel version?
[18:23:12] <_abc_> hazzy-m: this is more like it, thanks for pointing out the idea https://forum.linuxcnc.org
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[18:24:59] <jthornton> Tom_test: you're running the latest
[18:25:04] <jthornton> master
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[18:26:45] <Tom_test> jt is it a developement version?
[18:26:55] <Tom_test> if i wanted to make something...
[18:27:06] <Tom_test> that's a long way off though...
[18:28:24] <Lcvette> Open a terminal and type: editvcp
[18:28:44] <Lcvette> If qtdesigner opens, it's devel
[18:29:22] <Tom_test> esigner: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/designer': No such file or directory
[18:29:40] <hazzy-m> Tom_test: also if qtpyvcp -v gives you a clean version number like v0.2.2 you have master
[18:29:56] <hazzy-m> sisnce you isntalled from github you have master
[18:30:11] <Tom_test> QtPyVCP v0.2.2+16.g58f0ae2
[18:30:36] <hazzy-m> yep, that is latest master
[18:30:51] <Tom_test> what's missing ^^ there?
[18:30:51] <jthornton> Tom_test: https://qtpyvcp.kcjengr.com
[18:30:52] <hazzy-m> 16 commits ahead of v0.2.2
[18:32:08] <_abc_> So how does one attach a M1xx call to a hal pin on a parport?
[18:34:05] <Tom_test> _abc_, maybe with MDI_COMMAND in the ini?
[18:34:31] <Tom_test> that was my first guess
[18:35:23] <_abc_> I would need the M1xx to be called upon parport pin attached button state change
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[18:37:32] <jthornton> yea a mdi command in the ini file
[18:37:43] <Lcvette> Tom_test: have you run an update since itstall?
[18:37:51] <_abc_> jthornton: do you have an example in mind?
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[18:38:29] <jthornton> http://linuxcnc.org
[18:38:38] <jthornton> doing 8 things at once lol
[18:39:28] <_abc_> halui.mdi-command-00 is then a pin, but do I need to connect it with a net connecting it to the parport pin?
[18:40:32] <Lcvette> Tom_test: you need to get the riot app now and come join us in qtpyvcp
[18:41:27] <Lcvette> So much easier exchanging images, paste clips, vids etc for trouble shooting and collaboration
[18:43:21] <Lcvette> <_abc_ "So how does one attach a M1xx ca"> https://riot.im
[18:43:49] <Lcvette> Tom_test: https://riot.im
[18:45:30] <jthornton> http://linuxcnc.org
[18:45:59] <jthornton> ^ abc
[18:47:16] <_abc_> got it, thanks
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[18:49:49] <jthornton> Tom_test: where did you get your single point thread mills?
[18:50:14] <Lcvette> Online carbide.com
[18:50:41] <Tom_test> yeah i think so..
[18:51:04] <Lcvette> They make great affordable carbide tooling
[18:51:10] <Tom_L> http://onlinecarbide.com
[18:51:33] <Lcvette> I love their carbide stub drills
[18:52:50] <jthornton> thanks
[18:53:20] <Tom_L> that site sure has sucky colors
[18:53:39] <XXCoder> eh looks like standard microsoft colors.
[18:54:01] <XXCoder> get Dark Mode if you dont like it, and use firefox.
[18:54:11] <jthornton> I wonder what the crest is on the thread mills, they don't list it
[18:54:38] <Lcvette> .002
[18:54:50] <jthornton> on all of them?
[18:55:13] <Lcvette> Most of the small common sizes
[18:55:14] <Tom_L> they're pretty sharp
[18:55:41] <jthornton> yea you need the crest to figure out the final tool path
[18:56:12] <Tom_L> i ended up adding ~.004-.005"
[18:56:24] <Tom_L> depending on the cutter
[18:56:26] <jthornton> to the diameter?
[18:56:39] <Tom_L> i think mine calculates radius
[18:56:58] <Tom_L> i'd have to look again
[18:57:17] <jthornton> that's ok play with qtpyvcp
[18:57:20] <Tom_L> i would add that to the diameter
[18:57:57] <Tom_L> #major_diameter
[18:58:19] <Tom_L> so that would be diameter at that point
[18:59:12] <Lcvette> Jt, my pitch diameter offset for 1/4-28 is 0.041"
[19:00:55] <Tom_L> on the 3/4 16 i think i ended up with .004-.006 but i wanted it snug
[19:01:04] <Tom_L> still kinda messin with that
[19:01:11] <Tom_L> just haven't had alot of play time
[19:01:25] <jthornton> I'm working on a thread mill conversational, what is the neck diameter of a 1/4" one
[19:01:41] <jthornton> http://onlinecarbide.com
[19:01:46] <Tom_L> i modeled all of mine
[19:01:54] <Tom_L> want them all?
[19:01:59] <jthornton> sure
[19:02:16] <jthornton> last day of the month don't care about data lol
[19:03:23] <jthornton> gotta go fire up the barbie and get it warmed up
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[19:06:39] <Lcvette> Jt, not sure of the to of my head off the neck diameter
[19:07:03] <Tom_L> 1/4" neck is .10425
[19:07:21] <Lcvette> Sounds about right
[19:07:25] <jthornton> ok thanks
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[19:07:36] <Tom_L> they give the neck length
[19:08:18] <Tom_L> the #10 is .06945"
[19:09:20] <Tom_L> 5/16 is .15900"
[19:10:25] <Tom_L> 3/8 is .18950
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[19:11:20] <Tom_L> 1/2 is .23925
[19:12:03] <jthornton> thanks
[19:12:20] <Tom_L> 5/8 is .34910
[19:13:01] <Tom_L> and the 3/4 is .41895
[19:14:25] <jthornton> thanks
[19:14:54] <Tom_L> i thought i had it in a spreadsheet but didn't have that diameter
[19:15:26] <jthornton> I found a spreadsheet that does a lot of stuff and one is check if the tool it good for the thread
[19:15:52] <Tom_L> he gives a range on his site which i thought was helpful
[19:15:57] <Tom_L> and marks it on the tube
[19:16:14] <Tom_L> i put some clear tape over the label to keep it
[19:16:39] <jthornton> https://www.nyccnc.com
[19:16:51] <jthornton> that's a pretty cool spreadsheet
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[19:18:11] <jthornton> I also noticed that multiple passes start deep and progress to shallower cuts to keep the material removal the same
[19:18:40] <Tom_L> yeah i didn't do that yet. mine are equally divided passes
[19:19:30] <jthornton> well I'm off to toss some steaks on the pit and give them a hot foot
[19:19:38] <Tom_L> later
[19:32:40] <Tom_L> so what does riot do?
[19:32:56] <Tom_L> like a whiteboard?
[19:34:39] <hazzy-m> riot is kinda like slack or discord, but it bridged to IRC, lets you share images and files directaly, and also has a mobile app which is nice
[19:35:08] <hazzy-m> also has keeps logs and has search, which is very handy
[19:35:12] <Tom_L> i don't use any of those :)
[19:35:28] <hazzy-m> neither have I lol
[19:35:56] <Tom_L> how do you tell which is the main file to launch in a config?
[19:36:23] <hazzy-m> your talking about qtpyvcp?
[19:36:27] <Tom_L> yeah
[19:37:00] <hazzy-m> the .yml file is the main file that contains all of the VCP info, so if there is one it is best to use it
[19:37:13] <Tom_test> ok
[19:37:40] <hazzy-m> you can also launch VCPs from a single .ui file if it is a very simple VCP
[19:37:41] <Tom_test> now, if i wanted to start completely from scratch where would i begin or do you need a template to start with?
[19:38:39] <hazzy-m> you can begin with a single .ui file, bit it is quikest to start with a temp, JT made a good one, sek
[19:39:01] <Tom_test> i have his page open
[19:39:12] <hazzy-m> this should get you started: https://qtpyvcp.kcjengr.com
[19:39:16] <Tom_test> yeah
[19:39:34] <hazzy-m> sweet
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[19:47:50] <Tom_test> probably best not to do it as root :D
[19:50:45] <Tom_test> still missing something
[19:51:03] <Tom_test> Starting QtDesigner ...
[19:51:03] <Tom_test> designer: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/designer': No such file or directory
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[19:53:21] <infornography> https://cdn.discordapp.com
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[20:00:21] <hazzy-m> infornography: thats about right, lol
[20:01:03] <hazzy-m> Tom_test: your having the most truble, have not seen that in a while, I think you must not have qdeisnger installed
[20:01:38] <Tom_test> i think you're right. i just discovered
[20:02:14] <Tom_test> i started at 4am doing 4 stretch installs to find out it was a directory issue not the install
[20:02:25] <Tom_test> and the day just kinda went that way
[20:05:33] <hazzy-m> sudo apt install qttools5.dev qttools5-dev-tools
[20:05:45] <Tom_test> just did that i think
[20:05:54] <hazzy-m> ok
[20:06:16] <hazzy-m> thinking I should add that the the main deps to prevent confusion ...
[20:06:34] <Tom_test> https://qtpyvcp.kcjengr.com
[20:06:40] <Tom_test> what's that about?
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[20:08:35] <hazzy-m> you don't need that unless you intend to work on QtPyVCP itself, if you just want to make VCPs the quick install is fine
[20:08:45] <Tom_test> ok
[20:09:02] <Tom_test> i'd just do more damage than good at this point
[20:19:32] <pink_vampire> hi everyone
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[20:34:03] <Lcvette> Come on Tom_test I'm in there doing stuff and I'm the most hopeless Linux user on the planet
[20:34:30] <ve7it> Jymmm, very interesting green house video.... only problem I have here is the bedrock is only about 30" down... tough digging to get to 8'.. a liitle late for anfo
[20:34:31] <Lcvette> pink_vampire: hi
[20:34:46] <pink_vampire> hi Lcvette
[20:35:10] <Lcvette> Did you do a install too?
[20:35:28] <XXCoder> hey
[20:35:50] <Lcvette> Hey XXCoder
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[20:52:22] <hazzy-m> hmm, is it possible to un-ssh after sshing into another machine?
[20:52:25] <_unreal_> hello
[20:52:32] <_unreal_> just got back from disney/universal
[20:52:50] <_unreal_> one day at disney one day at universal studios
[20:52:54] <_unreal_> :) good to live in florida
[20:53:25] <hazzy-m> nice!
[20:53:39] <pink_vampire> i have the virtual box file form net...
[20:53:48] <hazzy-m> except for the humidity and oversized lizards LOL
[20:56:59] <hazzy-m> just chillin along the side of the road https://i.imgur.com
[20:57:17] <XXCoder> them gators is good eating
[20:57:26] <XXCoder> apparently. lol
[20:57:44] <hazzy-m> yeah, but I was woried he might think the same about me lol
[20:58:07] <hazzy-m> my uncle used to eat them when he lived in FL, said it was like chicken
[20:58:38] <XXCoder> thats sim glitch. everything that was never checked in reality gets defined into chicken taste
[20:59:10] <hazzy-m> haha
[20:59:39] <hazzy-m> he also said shark tasted like chicken ..
[21:00:24] <hazzy-m> and rabit, seems like the default
[21:01:19] <XXCoder> chickens is dinsours so not relaly surpised similiar taste when you think about it.
[21:04:48] <XXCoder> if I recall right, chicken is much closer to dinsours than gators
[21:10:46] <jdh> shark is better than chicken
[21:24:34] <Tom_L> JT-Shop, your MDI needs a F button
[21:24:54] <Tom_L> for feed
[21:27:43] <Tom_L> pretty cool stuff though
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[22:03:19] <_unreal_> hazzy-m, https://drive.google.com
[22:03:44] <_unreal_> Thats my back yard
[22:04:01] <_unreal_> he's my friend
[22:06:45] justan0theruser is now known as justanotheruser
[22:10:04] <hazzy-m> _unreal_: interesting looking fellow! never seen anything like that, is it a type of tode?
[22:10:31] <Tom_L> doesn't look like he'd be anybody's friend :)
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[22:14:24] <hazzy-m> Iguana know what it is
[22:15:11] <XXCoder> Tom_L: also needed for curse word. in case, for comments. ;)
[22:16:51] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[22:18:49] * hazzy-m is content with the foxes and coyotes
[22:19:47] <Tom_L> there's alot of checking needed to be done on those controls i can see
[22:20:10] <Tom_L> a work in progress
[22:31:02] <_unreal_> I've had alagators in the back yard as well
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[22:35:24] <Jymmm> _unreal_: new boots? belt? hat?
[22:42:14] <_unreal_> I wish
[22:42:32] <_unreal_> hay what is newer https://www.armbian.com 4.19 or 4.4?
[22:50:45] <Jymmm> _unreal_: Just get some kitty and chainlink fence,... insta-belt
[22:51:02] <_unreal_> hum
[23:03:49] <pink_vampire> what is g92??
[23:04:49] <Tom_L> G92 makes the current point have the coordinates you want
[23:05:02] <Tom_L> but you knew that if you read the docs
[23:05:31] <Lcvette> Coordinate shift if memory serves
[23:05:59] <Lcvette> Tom_L: you on riot I'm yet?
[23:06:06] <Tom_L> naw
[23:06:15] <Lcvette> Get on it!
[23:06:18] <Tom_L> why?
[23:06:22] <hazzy-m> G52 is a eaier to understand and safer version of G92 ..
[23:07:10] <Lcvette> So you can easily communicate
[23:07:16] <Tom_L> i'm right here
[23:07:52] <Tom_L> i was looking over jt's work earlier
[23:08:14] <Tom_L> where's the one you guys are working on?
[23:09:16] <hazzy-m> ProbeBasic?
[23:09:28] <Tom_L> no idea
[23:09:42] <Tom_L> the one with the toolchange sim etc
[23:09:50] <Lcvette> If you had riot I'm you could easily share screen shots direct
[23:09:57] <Lcvette> That's in devel
[23:10:07] <hazzy-m> yes, that is PorbeBasic, it is in the examples section of the VCP Chooser dialog
[23:10:30] <pink_vampire> i'm trying to "move" the coordinate system in the linux cnc plot screen to the location of the tool , i tried g10 l2 p1 x0 y0 z0, but it is just jump to the corner, so i tried the same command but with l20
[23:10:32] <hazzy-m> you will need to check out a branch to run it though
[23:10:42] <Lcvette> Hazzy he's referring to the ATC branch
[23:10:57] <pink_vampire> the coordinate system move, but the trace dont
[23:11:14] <hazzy-m> pink_vampire: you probably need to re;oad the backplot
[23:11:18] <pink_vampire> only after refresh it is work
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[23:12:54] <pink_vampire> but here is the weird part, if instead g10.... i'm clicking on the "touch off" buttons, the trace jump to place.
[23:14:05] <pink_vampire> so, why g10 l20 need refresh, and the touch off buttons dont?
[23:14:46] <hazzy-m> It chould be that the touchoff buttons trigger a reload of the backplot
[23:14:56] <hazzy-m> are you running axis?
[23:15:09] <pink_vampire> yes
[23:15:22] <pink_vampire> axis with pyvcp
[23:15:56] <Lcvette> Tom_L: you need riot, the development install, gitkraken, then you can rock and roll with us
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[23:16:33] <Tom_L> if i had more time to put into it i might
[23:17:24] <Lcvette> Boo
[23:17:53] <hazzy-m> Lcvette: if Tom gets too fluent with QtPyVCP then who will we have to break stuff?
[23:18:14] <Tom_L> i can break just about anything
[23:18:48] <Lcvette> There's a whole world of breakers and not enough builders
[23:18:52] <Tom_L> is there code behind the forms you can tweak or is it all gui?
[23:19:24] <Tom_L> i never learned c++ that much, i'd be left behind
[23:19:29] <hazzy-m> you can add as much python code as you like to customize, but its not required for most things
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[23:19:55] <hazzy-m> JT uses custom handlers for all the smart MDI stuff
[23:20:54] <Tom_L> how many separate projects are there for linuxcnc gui?
[23:21:11] <hazzy-m> it is very modular, which makes it a little bit harder to understand at first, but the idea is to make it very flexable so as not to limit what can be done with it
[23:21:20] <hazzy-m> a whole bunch lol
[23:23:29] <hazzy-m> to limit it to GUI framworkd there is PyVCP, GladeVCP, QtVCP, QtPyVCP and several C++ based ones for embeded systems (but they seemsto have come to a stand still)
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[23:24:00] * hazzy-m tipeing sux lol
[23:24:19] <Lcvette> QtPyVCP rules
[23:27:30] <pink_vampire> why there is a dark rectangle in the corner of the plot screen???
[23:30:05] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com
[23:30:18] <pink_vampire> any idea how to remove it?
[23:30:30] <hazzy-m> interesting, I don't have it here on 2.8
[23:31:41] <hazzy-m> actually I do, but it is a lot bigger
[23:32:03] <XXCoder> odd
[23:32:05] <pink_vampire> it is point less
[23:32:35] <XXCoder> maybe jt knows
[23:33:07] <pink_vampire> it is cover 25% of the plot area
[23:33:13] <hazzy-m> looks like it is tbe BG for the axis DROs, since it grows if you hav emore of them
[23:33:16] * hazzy-m uploaded an image: image.png (33KB) < https://matrix.org >
[23:34:07] <hazzy-m> seems to always end at the bottom of the G54 DRO
[23:34:25] <pink_vampire> how do you see the plot with all that text on top
[23:35:28] <pink_vampire> do you know how to change the text size?
[23:36:12] <pink_vampire> i'm tying to dig in glcanon.py
[23:36:15] <hazzy-m> I can't, having the DROs imposed on the plot is not ideal, to put it mildly
[23:36:35] <hazzy-m> yes, that is the right place to look
[23:39:55] <Tom_L> there's only so much screen area
[23:40:17] <pink_vampire> i wish it was a way to move it to the side https://i.imgur.com
[23:41:23] <Tom_L> it's less than perfect but one of the better gui i think
[23:41:33] <Tom_L> probably the most used
[23:41:52] <XXCoder> pink doesnt you already made your own gui? with qtpypito whatever name it is
[23:42:14] <Tom_L> qtpita?
[23:42:28] <pink_vampire> O_o
[23:42:30] <pink_vampire> no
[23:42:41] <pink_vampire> i'm using axis with pyvcp
[23:44:05] <Jymmm> Tom_L: Yeah she did, and it's pinkgui too
[23:44:10] <Jymmm> with lips
[23:51:32] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com that??
[23:52:40] <pink_vampire> Jymmm: XXCoder^
[23:53:15] <XXCoder> no
[23:53:24] <XXCoder> the qtpyvcp one
[23:53:59] <pink_vampire> i never used qtpyvcp
[23:54:15] <XXCoder> oh plain version, pyvcp?
[23:54:54] <pink_vampire> there is no pink interface for my cnc machine
[23:54:56] <pink_vampire> yet
[23:55:06] <_unreal_> YET
[23:55:11] <_unreal_> lol
[23:55:14] <XXCoder> i remember you making custom font and linuxcnc gui
[23:55:32] <pink_vampire> for the probing?
[23:56:05] <_unreal_> https://photos.google.com pink_vampire few new pictures
[23:56:37] <XXCoder> i remember those. lovely design
[23:56:42] <hazzy-m> qtpita hahaha, that is great!
[23:57:03] <_unreal_> qtpita?
[23:57:29] <pink_vampire> _unreal_: how much do you charge for shipping to NY?
[23:57:38] <_unreal_> ?
[23:57:47] <XXCoder> pink_vampire: oh yes probe ui yeah
[23:57:49] <pink_vampire> this is soooooooooooooooooooooooooo cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[23:58:14] <pink_vampire> file://
[23:58:14] <_unreal_> oh the shell.... dont know off hand....
[23:58:30] <pink_vampire> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com
[23:58:45] <XXCoder> that url dont work
[23:58:51] <_unreal_> no worky
[23:58:55] <XXCoder> need to right click view picture
[23:58:58] <XXCoder> copy url there
[23:59:07] <_unreal_> click on sharable link
[23:59:11] <_unreal_> share able
[23:59:11] <hazzy-m> C:/ who uses drive letters?!
[23:59:20] <_unreal_> ME
[23:59:36] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com