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[00:54:16] <Jymmm> Got bandsaw? https://www.youtube.com
[00:55:02] <XXCoder> lol been a while
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[00:59:50] <XXCoder> Jymmm: one iof things I liked about it was how he used ut as "lathe" to fix itself
[01:01:37] <XXCoder> a motor, shift and wheel itself gets turned into very large diameter wood lathe
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[01:04:29] <Jymmm> XXCoder: like a self replicating 3d printer ;)
[01:04:41] <XXCoder> lol
[01:04:57] <XXCoder> it wont be truly replicating till it reaches 100% of parts
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[01:05:41] <Jymmm> XXCoder: Maybe, but that was the intension iirc
[01:06:00] <XXCoder> intention?
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[01:16:12] <Jymmm> a 3d printer that could relicate itself for others - open hardware
[01:18:37] <XXCoder> yeah though 100% requires entirely different tech. like star trek replicatior
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[02:02:37] <gloops> supposing someone wants to run some g code, xyz machine, but retain control of the z by jog controls, is that possible?
[02:03:16] <XXCoder> not certain what you meant
[02:03:28] <XXCoder> you mean while its running you can jog z?
[02:03:38] <gloops> yeah thats it
[02:03:54] <gloops> for a plasma, to adjust z height while its running code
[02:04:41] <XXCoder> i thought of alternate solution, have 2 z setups, one purely z jog, other is cnc
[02:05:05] <XXCoder> but maybe there is simpler solution software way
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[02:05:33] <gloops> it would need 2 configs running at once
[02:06:03] <XXCoder> not if pure jog one is on its own setup. encoder -> rspi -> stepper thats i
[02:06:16] <XXCoder> maybe one limit switch so you dont smash stuff
[02:06:45] <XXCoder> how much range do you usually use for on the spot plasma height adjusting?
[02:06:57] <XXCoder> im guessing maybe 2 inches at most
[02:07:32] <gloops> i dont know its not for me, just a question someone asked on facebook, not a lot i wouldnt have thought
[02:07:48] <XXCoder> ahh ok
[02:08:00] <XXCoder> im pretty reasonable sure theres software solution
[02:08:13] <XXCoder> if not well theres always solution i thought up heh
[02:09:04] <gloops> i think if you just ran 2 configs, xy and z - just jog the z to height then run the gcode on the xy config
[02:09:13] <gloops> you still got control of the z
[02:09:24] <gloops> its like running 2 machines
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[02:09:35] <XXCoder> youre right, its pure xy usually right?
[02:09:52] <XXCoder> my solution works, just doesnt need any other z. config has no z
[02:09:57] <gloops> yeah the only movement is xy really, its just fine tuning the z for the cut
[02:10:30] <gloops> i didnt really understand your solution lol
[02:10:56] <XXCoder> but you do now? heh
[02:11:20] <gloops> <XXCoder> not if pure jog one is on its own setup. encoder -> rspi -> stepper thats i
[02:11:48] <XXCoder> oh basically its this, you have simple computer device that process encoder input from jog wheel
[02:11:53] <XXCoder> it handles z
[02:11:59] <XXCoder> and thats it.
[02:12:15] <XXCoder> it probably has input switches to make sure it dont crash into end
[02:12:23] <gloops> so that works independent of linuxcnc
[02:12:27] <XXCoder> yeah
[02:13:01] <gloops> right i got it, yeah he didnt mention a torch height controller, i think thats probably the same thing
[02:13:11] <gloops> he did mention
[02:14:31] <XXCoder> ya. though i wonder if plasma ever need to rise in z for any reason
[02:14:58] <XXCoder> though can always have m0 (rise z to high position)
[02:17:14] <gloops> i wonder if its a fine tuning thing, not sure plasma isnt something i do
[02:17:29] <XXCoder> thats what I thought also
[02:17:41] <XXCoder> thickness varies a little guy rises lowers as needed
[02:18:01] <gloops> g-code would always move height over clamps or whatever, dunno
[02:18:26] <gloops> or his machine bed isnt level lol
[02:18:36] <XXCoder> i dont think i ever seen plasma use clamps
[02:18:47] <gloops> nah wouldnt need them
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[06:00:54] <Tom_L> morning
[06:04:09] <jthornton> morning
[06:04:19] <XXCoder> morning
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[08:59:09] <beachbumpete1> Mornin' ;)
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[11:03:19] <Loetmichel> uuups... i really should mount the new cpu heatsink. The "emergency" boxed HS for an I3 that hangs on one screw isnt ideal for an I7-920 ;) (just had a BSOD while playing Fallout4.)
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[12:54:29] <roycroft> i'm looking at getting a new, keyless chuck for my mill/drill, which has an r8 spindle
[12:54:34] <roycroft> all my current chucks are jt33
[12:54:56] <roycroft> but the jacobs 1/2" chuck with jt33 is $250, and jt2 is $150
[12:55:00] <roycroft> that's a huge difference
[12:55:06] <roycroft> is there a downside to getting a jt2 chuck?
[12:55:38] <roycroft> other than having to get a different spindle adapter, which is going to be way way way less than $100
[12:56:10] <roycroft> the adapter is about $15
[12:56:57] <syy__> get the largest possible taper between chuck and shank
[12:57:15] <syy__> increases stiffness
[12:57:24] <roycroft> that would be jt33
[12:57:30] <roycroft> but is it going to be $100 stiffer?
[12:57:35] <roycroft> i guess that's the real question
[12:57:36] <syy__> i am not sure if thats 100bucks worth
[12:57:45] <syy__> ;)
[12:57:45] <roycroft> keep in mind that this is a mill/drill, not a full size knee mill
[12:58:08] <syy__> 250for a keyless seems steep for me
[12:58:16] <syy__> even an albrecht will not cost that much Oo
[12:58:28] <syy__> wich would be the goldstandard anyway :D
[12:58:31] <roycroft> that's the going rate for jacobs
[12:58:45] <roycroft> i can get chinese imports for ~$100
[12:59:26] <syy__> an albrecht 12mm is 160eur here
[12:59:33] <roycroft> the cheapest 1/2" albrecht i see is $350
[12:59:55] <syy__> wtf Oo
[13:00:07] <roycroft> maybe it's the tariffs that penalize the countries of origin, not the consumers in this country
[13:00:43] <syy__> haha
[13:00:44] <syy__> ;)
[13:00:48] <roycroft> they do that by making the end user pay more, and don't do anything at all to the manufacturer
[13:00:54] <syy__> i am still not fully clear on the concept of tarifs.
[13:01:06] <roycroft> pardon my saying this
[13:01:15] <roycroft> but that is something you and our president have in common
[13:01:22] <syy__> lol
[13:01:24] <syy__> hm
[13:01:28] <syy__> i have an extension
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[13:01:35] <syyl> thats more correct
[13:01:48] <roycroft> anyway, jacobs are really good chucks
[13:01:57] <roycroft> i have several keyed ones and i love them
[13:02:08] <syyl> i know them only for the crapy chucks you get with the cordless drills
[13:02:13] <syyl> never had a machine chuck from them
[13:02:21] <syyl> this is röhm/albrecht country ;)
[13:03:15] <roycroft> the old, rebuildable jacobs chucks are awesome
[13:03:27] <syyl> thats
[13:03:28] <roycroft> i guess i can't comment on what they're making now, because i don't have any newish ones
[13:03:39] <syyl> nice on the albrecht too, you get a rebuild kit for them
[13:03:46] <syyl> new jaws usualy
[13:03:55] <roycroft> i won't buy a jacobs chuck if it does not have a rebuild kit number stamped on the side of it
[13:04:52] <roycroft> there are used albrecht chucks on ebay for what seem to be reasonable prices, but they're mostly auction listings, so i don't know what the final bid will be
[13:05:01] <roycroft> i should do a bit more research before i buy anything
[13:05:04] <Loetmichel> *meh* *gross* my wife forgot a opened pack of flour in the kitchen cupboard. Had to get rid of quite the biotope... along with all the foods in said cupboard... what a waste. good thing i always have 5 liters of Isopropanol 99.9% handy... that cupboard is now sterile... and the kitchen a "high explosive area" ;) *cough* *high*
[13:06:07] <roycroft> flour gets stored in an airtight glass jar
[13:06:12] <roycroft> how can it be a problem like that? :)
[13:07:06] <Loetmichel> roycroft: paper pack
[13:07:18] <Loetmichel> no glass jar/tupperware
[13:07:29] <Loetmichel> that WAS the problem
[13:07:30] <roycroft> so it was stored incorrectly
[13:07:35] <Loetmichel> indeed
[13:11:54] <Loetmichel> btw: "spritzing" pure IPA into a running vacuum cleaner nozzle (to kill the arachnids and insects sucked in earlier) makes for a nice flamethrower out the other end... just saying ;)
[13:17:10] <roycroft> put that ipa in your belly, not in the hoover
[13:19:14] <Loetmichel> roycroft: Isoprlpyl alcohol is toxic. wont do that!
[13:19:39] <roycroft> ipa is a british ale
[13:20:12] <roycroft> isopropal alcohol is generally referred to as "rubbing alcohol" or "isopropanol"
[13:23:52] <Tom_L> https://www.amazon.com
[13:24:38] <roycroft> that's a pretty good deal, tom_l
[13:24:54] <roycroft> now i need to figure out what's wrong with it :)
[13:26:30] <Tom_L> it's metric. it might not fit your american drills
[13:27:54] <roycroft> that's ok - i'll just convert them to metric
[13:28:31] <roycroft> that should not be a big deal
[13:28:46] <roycroft> i just now converte a 3/8" drill to a 9.53mm drill
[13:28:54] <roycroft> it only took a couple seconds
[13:34:55] <rmu> nobody drinks indian pale ale in germany
[13:35:26] <Loetmichel> rmu: indeed. we like our beer to be brewed by the "reinheitsgebot" ;)
[13:37:21] <roycroft> still, i can't imagine a german who would prefer to hoover an ipa than drink it
[13:38:52] <rmu> "to hoover" is like "to google"
[13:38:56] <Loetmichel> thats why i did that with isoproply alcohol 99.9%, not the beer
[13:39:22] <Loetmichel> because it kills any insect and aracnide very fast
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[13:51:51] <Rab> roycroft, I've heard very good things about Glacern keyless chucks. They have one in R8 for $150: https://www.glacern.com
[13:52:35] <Rab> Doing away with the taper adapter entirely would surely improve stiffness.
[13:54:17] <Rab> I wanted one for my drill press, but they don't offer JT33. They did respond quickly and politely to my inquiry, though.
[13:56:05] <roycroft> i would not mind getting a chuck that does not need a taper adapter - i could get one that is r8, but in a way the taper adapter would be nice so that i could use it on the lathe if i want
[13:56:19] <roycroft> however, i rarely do a lot of tooling changes during a lateh operation
[13:56:22] <roycroft> not like on the mill
[13:56:37] <roycroft> so a keyless chuck would not be that big a deal for me on the lathe
[13:57:13] <roycroft> and i already have tailstock chucks for my lathe that are different from the ones for the mill/drill
[13:57:36] <roycroft> if it does become a big deal i could always buy another keyless chuck
[13:59:07] <Rab> I might like to upgrade my mill with their M2 chuck, it's only $90. But I'd have to cut off the tang and thread it for the drawbar.
[13:59:21] <Rab> MT2
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[14:08:21] <roycroft> i might add the tormach tts system to my mill/drill whenever i do the cnc upgrade
[14:08:48] <roycroft> which is another reason that a chuck that takes an arbor might be desirable vs. a built-in one
[14:09:16] <roycroft> i'm probaby not going to buy a new chuck today anyway
[14:09:35] <CaptHindsight> most IPA's Ive tried will probably kill most insects, at least they tasted that way
[14:09:50] <roycroft> i'm not a fan of big, hoppy ipas
[14:09:52] <roycroft> and i'm from oregon
[14:10:14] <roycroft> even though i don't care for them, i still have to brew one every couple years or so to avoid being kicked out of the state
[14:10:21] <CaptHindsight> my theory is that there was glut of bad hops that producers had to sell
[14:10:34] <CaptHindsight> so they pushed IPA's on uhmericans
[14:10:48] <CaptHindsight> same as burned coffee from charbucks
[14:11:06] <roycroft> it was a bit less insidious than that
[14:11:21] <roycroft> the big, hoppy ipa developed as a style here at the beginning of the craft beer movement
[14:11:36] <roycroft> when we had bud/coors/miller as the "standards"
[14:12:01] <roycroft> the craft beer folks wanted something big and bold to contrast with the watered-down piss that was american beer at the time
[14:12:06] <gloops> sounds like an improvement roycroft
[14:12:15] <roycroft> it was an improvement
[14:12:24] <CaptHindsight> they figured out that uhmericans don't really know good from bad so they tell them strong flavors are good e.g., bitter, burned, ass etc
[14:12:29] <roycroft> and i'm not saying i inherently dislike ipa as a beer style
[14:12:38] <roycroft> i have two problems with them:
[14:12:47] <roycroft> 1. i got burned out on them in the '80s
[14:12:50] <roycroft> as i said, i'm from oregon
[14:13:02] <roycroft> and it was ipa, ipa, or ipa for craft beer choices at the time
[14:13:20] <roycroft> 2. some of the craft breweries are trying to outdo themselves with over-the-top ipas
[14:13:29] <roycroft> such that they're not balanced any more
[14:13:43] <gloops> on the other hand with this craft beer movement, you can end up pay stupid prices for badly made home brew
[14:13:53] <roycroft> they tend to be very strong, very malty, and very very very hoppy
[14:13:57] <gloops> £7 for a pint of sediment isnt good
[14:14:16] <roycroft> i don't need a 75% beer with 170ibus of bitterness for a daily drinker
[14:14:19] <roycroft> 7.5%
[14:14:31] <CaptHindsight> new micro brewery opened nearby, they said they just sour their IPA's to make their sours, so all their "sours" are hopped
[14:14:53] <roycroft> hops and sourness do not balance very well, generally
[14:15:15] <CaptHindsight> uhmericans here don't seem to care
[14:15:19] <gloops> i think we lost the happy medium, large scale production of real ale
[14:15:31] <CaptHindsight> they pretty much drink whatever you tell them to drink
[14:16:05] <roycroft> we have a fairly sophisticated beer culture here in eugene
[14:16:25] <gloops> superior to artificially carbonated cats piss, and also overpriced amateur bucket beer
[14:17:54] <CaptHindsight> http://uneannee.com does an amazing job, you'd think they were from Belgium
[14:18:13] <CaptHindsight> but they are in a rundown strip mall just outside Chicago
[14:19:32] <CaptHindsight> http://scorchedearthbrewing.com great sours, lousy owners, the brewer is like a sour savant
[14:20:44] <roycroft> so i finally got to test out my new belt grinder last night
[14:21:04] <CaptHindsight> around here sours are ~$10/12oz
[14:21:06] <roycroft> i took a chunk of 3/4"x2" hot roll bar stock and put a nice radius on the end in a matter of seconds
[14:21:23] <roycroft> i pushed really hard and did not slow down the grinder at all
[14:21:34] <CaptHindsight> how big is the motor
[14:21:35] <roycroft> the end of the bar turned blue i was pushing so hard
[14:21:36] <CaptHindsight> ?
[14:21:37] <roycroft> 3hp
[14:21:43] <roycroft> i'm happy with it
[14:21:55] <roycroft> some folks say that for heavy use one should have a 5hp motor
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[14:22:02] <roycroft> but my old grinder has a 1/4hp motor
[14:22:07] <CaptHindsight> with a gearbox?
[14:22:08] <roycroft> stepping up to 3hp was pretty big :)
[14:22:11] <roycroft> no
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[14:22:15] <roycroft> it's direct drive
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[14:23:13] <roycroft> i have a lot of work to do to finish building the grinder, but it's not at a point where i can use it on the rest of the parts
[14:23:21] <roycroft> and get rid of the old one
[14:23:39] <roycroft> i originally bought a 2hp motor for it, but upgraded to 3hp before i built it
[14:23:41] <roycroft> i'm glad i did
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[14:30:34] <JT-Shop> got a photo of it?
[14:31:14] <roycroft> no, not yet
[14:31:20] <roycroft> probably not until i paint it
[14:31:38] <roycroft> my welds are strong but ugly - i don't want to show it off until i clean them up
[14:31:59] <JT-Shop> lol, more interested in the design and not the pretty parts
[14:32:00] <roycroft> it's very close to the jeremy schmidt design
[14:32:16] <roycroft> so look up his 2x72 build on youtube and you'll essentially see what i made
[14:32:25] <roycroft> i bought his plans and started with that
[14:32:48] <roycroft> i mainly did things like use shoulder bolts instead of really long hex head bolts
[14:34:05] <roycroft> https://www.youtube.com
[14:34:29] <roycroft> i really like his design, because the power unit tilts but the table is fixed
[14:34:38] <JT-Shop> different ends for different jobs?
[14:34:54] <roycroft> yes, i just have a platen head on it right now
[14:35:03] <JT-Shop> nice
[14:35:07] <roycroft> but i'm going to get a small wheel head, and a big contact wheel head
[14:35:42] <roycroft> and for tables, i'm going to make a fixed 90 degree table, a fixed 45 degree table, and an adjustable table
[14:35:54] <JT-Shop> nice
[14:35:57] <roycroft> and jeremy has a clever radiusing table
[14:36:02] <roycroft> i'll probably build that as well
[14:36:07] * JT-Shop gets back to making chips
[14:36:22] <roycroft> my old grinder has an adjustable table, but that's really fiddly
[14:36:39] <roycroft> and so often i'm going back and forth between 90 degree grinds and 45 degree grinds
[14:37:06] <roycroft> it will be nice to just swap tables quickly and know they're accurately indexed
[14:50:46] <CaptHindsight> https://robotics.sciencemag.org
[14:51:00] <CaptHindsight> Dynamic DNA material with emergent locomotion behavior powered by artificial metabolism
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[15:13:50] <JT-Shop> roycroft: that is some neat grinder, be handy to have a chamfer jig on that
[15:16:30] <roycroft> yes
[15:16:40] <roycroft> jeremy also just came up with a template jig
[15:16:44] <roycroft> similar to a router template jig
[15:17:05] <roycroft> he takes the small wheel attachment and adds an extra bearing to one side of the wheel, so that bearing can follow the template
[15:17:59] <roycroft> jt-shop: i started planning on building a 2x72 about five years ago
[15:18:11] <roycroft> almost 3 years ago i started buying parts for it
[15:18:25] <roycroft> maybe a couple years ago i found the jeremy schmidt design
[15:18:33] <roycroft> and i knew right away that was the design i was going to use
[15:18:51] <roycroft> i tossed all the cad drawings i had made up to then
[15:19:34] <roycroft> having the power train tilt while the table is stationary is such a huge feature
[15:20:09] <JT-Shop> I'll have to watch some videos during free time
[15:21:00] <JT-Shop> crap I forgot to make the BP visible to the LAN
[15:21:33] <CaptHindsight> where are these non temp controlled shops located?
[15:21:50] <roycroft> i just used mild steel for the first platen, but i got some tempered glass to use as platen liners
[15:21:55] <CaptHindsight> I either have the heat or the AC on
[15:21:56] <roycroft> i'll make a glass platen very soon
[15:22:10] <roycroft> yesterday i just wanted to make sparks to see how well it works
[15:22:58] <CaptHindsight> we are currently in the 2 weeks before summer arrives where you don't need AC and it's pretty bug free
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[16:09:36] <Rab> http://reboots.g-cipher.net
[16:09:45] <Rab> Tiny weekend project.
[16:11:16] <Tom_L> the compressor will be next.
[16:12:26] <XXCoder> nice rab
[16:13:56] <Tom_L> yeah, professional looking repair
[16:14:25] <gregcnc> dang I've replaced two of those rails
[16:15:22] <gregcnc> fam managed to break the door rail too, that got fixed with a piece of wood glued in the channel
[16:17:59] <Rab> You'd think a $1K appliance wouldn't be made of complete garbage...wouldn't you?
[16:18:21] <XXCoder> That is why "Right to Repair" laws is maiing inroads
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[17:35:53] <Deejay> gn8
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[17:43:43] <net|> https://github.com started this project a couple days ago, i almost have sending gcode ready
[17:44:25] <net|> sends some but not full file
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[19:10:00] <Tom_L> net| have you seen what JT-Shop has been working on in Qt?
[19:10:34] <Tom_L> his is python not c++
[19:12:05] <Tom_L> https://qtpyvcp.kcjengr.com
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[19:17:32] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop?
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[21:16:31] <net|> https://www.youtube.com
[21:17:29] <net|> need a 3d printed version
[21:18:19] <andypugh> Maybe there is on on Thingiverse :-)
[21:22:24] <roycroft> my new grinder is so nice, i tell you what
[21:22:43] <roycroft> even though it's only partially built, and just clamped down on a table for now, it's saving me so much time
[21:23:36] <andypugh> Belt grinder? Angel Grindr?
[21:24:00] <roycroft> belt grinder
[21:24:12] <andypugh> I keep thinking I should get one.
[21:24:18] <roycroft> i'm making a 2x72, using jeremy schmidt's design
[21:24:21] <roycroft> it is awesome
[21:24:31] <andypugh> I do have a hand-held finger sander which gets a lot of use
[21:24:48] <roycroft> i just had to nip 3/4" off a couple pieces of 3/8" steel at a 45 degree angle
[21:25:30] <roycroft> normally i'd pull out the bandsaw, pull it upright, mount the vertical table on it, slowly cut the corners off close to the line, then spend a few minutes on the old belt grinder finishing them up
[21:25:33] <andypugh> The tool I wish I had bought decades ago is the band saw. I got a cheap hand-held one, with a base. But what made it super useful was converting it to a vertical with a table.
[21:25:47] <roycroft> today i just fired up the new grinder, pushed the pieces in, and ground the whole thing off in seconds
[21:26:10] <net|> https://www.alibaba.com something strange with the math if i bought these for a penny each and recycled them here i could make a 9 cent profit per can ?
[21:26:11] <roycroft> i have a 7x12 bandsaw that i mostly use as a horizontal saw
[21:26:21] <roycroft> but it works as a vertical saw too
[21:26:25] <roycroft> it's jut really slow for that
[21:26:32] <andypugh> Ah, yes, what makes mine really useful is not putting it back in the box :-)
[21:27:18] <roycroft> net| : if you're talking about taking them to a recycle center to get the $0.10 each, what you're missing is that they'll only take cans that have a 10 cent deposit in that state
[21:27:30] <roycroft> and i doubt the ones from alibaba have deposit stamps on the sides of the cans
[21:27:32] <andypugh> Though mine will cut 3/8” steel in 20 seconds or so (And I am talking gauge-plate)
[21:27:54] <net|> oh
[21:28:02] * roycroft refers net| to an old seinfeld episode where kramer and newman decided to take some cans to michigan to recycle
[21:28:18] <roycroft> they had other problems besides the maths :)
[21:29:03] <roycroft> my only regret, andypugh, is that i did not make this grinder years ago when i first decided i wanted one
[21:29:24] <roycroft> but on the other hand, the jeremy schmidt design is superior to any others that i've seen, and he only released his design about 3 years ago
[21:29:30] <roycroft> so i guess it's good that i waited
[21:30:19] <andypugh> net|: Aren’t they priced at 10c per can?
[21:30:47] <roycroft> the recycling thing is kind of an issue here
[21:30:55] <roycroft> california, oregon, and washington used to all have a 5 cent deposit
[21:31:16] <roycroft> oregon was the first state in the nation with a bottle/can deposit, btw - we instituted it in the late 70s or so
[21:31:17] <roycroft> anyway
[21:31:29] <roycroft> all three states have raised the deposit to 10 cents, but asynchronously
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[21:32:21] <roycroft> and in an area like portland, for example, where a significant part of the working population live across the river in washington, stores had to be careful that they were not giving 10 cents back on a 5 cent deposit can from another sgtate
[21:43:54] <net|> https://www.youtube.com << lemon juice aluminum etching
[22:24:20] <net|> andy on alibaba you can get cans for 5 cents. i think if cans wernt worth 10 cents at recycle place alot of people would die
[22:25:17] <net|> roycroft cans never get looked at unless they are a strange shape if its a can its worth 10 cents here
[22:34:18] <roycroft> that's not the case here
[22:35:09] <roycroft> we have automated machines to tabulate bottles/cans, and they scan the bar code on the bottle or can and pay accordingly
[22:36:30] <roycroft> you really shoud watch that seinfeld episode
[22:36:37] <roycroft> it's called 'the bottle deposit'
[22:36:49] <roycroft> you're wanting to do the same thing they tried
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