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[02:33:04] <Loetmichel> mornin'
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[03:31:50] <Lcvette> https://youtu.be
[03:32:39] <Lcvette> getting closer!
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[04:34:50] <pink_vampire> Lcvette: this is linux cnc??
[04:43:45] <The_Ball> Lcvette, that's fantastic, I like the ATC look
[04:44:42] <The_Ball> Is this Qt based or something like that?
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[05:18:17] <XXCoder> boo
[05:19:33] <pink_vampire> baa
[05:22:34] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: https://i.imgur.com
[05:22:47] <XXCoder> looks clean
[05:22:55] <XXCoder> mostly anyway
[05:22:59] <pink_vampire> I love the ultrasonic cleaner
[05:23:15] <pink_vampire> this is the only spot it didn't cleaned
[05:23:29] <XXCoder> not bad
[05:23:51] <The_Ball> is there a before picture?
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[05:24:06] <pink_vampire> the upper part was the part that go in to the ultrasonic https://i.imgur.com
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[05:46:52] <The_Ball> oh wow, dramatic
[05:47:05] <XXCoder> yeah so sparky
[05:47:18] <The_Ball> Been wanting a cleaner for a while, is this a brand name or just a generic?
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[05:53:09] <XXCoder> The_Ball: pink menioned HF so I guess from that store, though she may have changed mind
[05:54:22] <XXCoder> that is. harbor freight
[05:57:20] <Loetmichel> The_Ball: i am pretty happy with the ebay kind. have the small 1,3l now for a few years, works pretty well. Takes ages to heat up the fluid though: https://www.ebay.de
[05:57:45] <XXCoder> Loetmichel: lol picture is little but of a wtf
[05:58:01] <Loetmichel> ?
[05:58:49] <XXCoder> the bottom left is supposed to show different sizes, but its clearly just photoshop of same machine
[05:59:07] <The_Ball> Loetmichel, wow, a 15 bucks one actually works?
[05:59:19] <XXCoder> 15 euro sounds too cheap
[05:59:21] <Loetmichel> The_Ball: 40 bucks
[05:59:29] <Loetmichel> but yes, it works pretty well
[05:59:45] <XXCoder> 40 usd is bit cheap but then havent looked up ultrasonic prices
[05:59:53] <The_Ball> ah sorry, the default was a 600ml one :)
[06:00:20] <XXCoder> lol https://www.ebay.com
[06:00:35] <Loetmichel> yeah, those are BS
[06:00:55] <XXCoder> 9 cnts lol (bidding but yeah not bid on it sounds bullshit)
[06:03:16] <The_Ball> lol, ebay suggested products, "Yabangbang Dental Drill"... I will not be sitting down if my dentists pulls out the "Yabangbang" drill
[06:03:30] <XXCoder> yeah bang bang
[06:03:49] <jthornton> morning
[06:03:57] <XXCoder> yo
[06:04:11] <XXCoder> https://www.ebay.com
[06:04:13] <XXCoder> crazy cheap lol
[06:04:26] <XXCoder> probably minium size to fit glasses
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[06:04:53] <XXCoder> yep
[06:05:12] <XXCoder> lol pic shows glasses small size inside it
[06:05:24] <XXCoder> gnome glasses I guess
[06:06:25] <XXCoder> not bad if needclean lots bolts at once
[06:07:45] <XXCoder> more "industral" https://www.ebay.com
[06:08:11] <XXCoder> 43 bucks for 6 liters pretty large
[06:08:55] <jthornton> that's for the 1.3L
[06:09:00] <XXCoder> uh 15l is also same price
[06:09:09] <XXCoder> something up a second
[06:09:20] <XXCoder> oh new ebay domain
[06:09:31] <jthornton> 15L $218
[06:09:57] <XXCoder> ya working now
[06:16:47] <Tom_L> morning
[06:18:11] <XXCoder> morning
[06:18:35] <Tom_L> Lcvette, looks good
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[06:26:08] <Loetmichel> FINALLY nearly done with the brass turning... got 10 of 30 sets of fuse adapters complete and 20 half complete... only 20 to go second mount... maaan thats no fun on that C0 "lathe" : https://www.youtube.com
[06:27:12] <XXCoder> tiny
[06:27:50] <Loetmichel> the lathe? indeed
[06:27:53] <Loetmichel> 7kg
[06:28:04] <Loetmichel> "Hosentaschendrehe"
[06:28:10] <Loetmichel> (pocket lathe)
[06:28:11] <Loetmichel> :-)
[06:28:13] <XXCoder> wonder if you could make that lathe with that cnc router heh
[06:28:15] <Loetmichel> literally ,)
[06:28:28] <Loetmichel> the router has a C axis
[06:28:44] <Loetmichel> so yes: https://www.youtube.com
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[06:38:19] <Deejay> moin
[06:38:34] <XXCoder> lol ok
[06:38:36] <XXCoder> hey
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[06:53:21] * Loetmichel was impressed btw: only 3/100mm tolerance between all the parts, and that with that mini lathe that has play like no good and without measuring, only relying on the scale rings on the handles. :-)
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[07:14:18] <drzacek> Loetmichel, you could achieve 1um tolerance with properly calibrated cnc lathe
[07:14:57] <XXCoder> .0005" is reasonable with ok cnc lathe heh
[07:15:08] <XXCoder> .0005" tol is quite hard on cnc if its not a bore
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[08:01:17] <XXCoder> wow science progresses. malaria
[08:01:20] <XXCoder> vaccine.
[08:01:41] <XXCoder> it confers only partial protection but its a big thing.
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[08:35:43] <Loetmichel> drzacek: of course. but 3/100mm is not bad at all for "freehand"
[08:35:57] <Loetmichel> with a lathe that is pretty worn/has much play
[08:49:17] <drzacek> Loetmichel, depends, you can compensate for play
[08:51:08] <Loetmichel> yes, i can
[08:51:17] <Loetmichel> i am still impressed that it went that weell
[08:51:18] <Loetmichel> well
[08:51:25] <Loetmichel> have you seen the vid?
[08:51:36] <Loetmichel> that lathe weights 15 lbs
[08:51:49] <Loetmichel> it moves whenever i try to turn the handle fast ;)
[08:52:48] <drzacek> crazy
[08:53:29] <drzacek> what's lbs tho
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[11:49:47] <fragalot> 'sup
[12:09:33] <Jymmm> sky
[12:13:07] <Lcvette> pink_vampire: yes!
[12:13:20] <Lcvette> The_Ball: qtpyvcp
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[12:16:47] <Lcvette> Tom_L: Thanks! :D
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[12:28:59] <abrock_> I have successfully connected my Sino optical length measuring system to LinuxCNC and use it to position-control the mill.
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[12:30:11] <abrock_> but when I say for example "G1 x0.001" LinuxCNC starts to try to reduce the error to 0 (which is not possible since the resolution of the measuring system is 0.005)
[12:31:01] <abrock_> can I somehow tell LinuxCNC to just stop when the error is below .0025?
[12:31:58] <Lcvette> are you using it as an "encoder"?
[12:32:36] <abrock_> yes, linear encoder
[12:33:15] <Lcvette> change the following error
[12:33:17] <Lcvette> ?
[12:33:42] <Lcvette> increase
[12:34:18] <Lcvette> in the PID
[12:34:34] <Lcvette> section
[12:38:44] <abrock_> ahh, I found the setting, it is called "deadband"
[12:38:44] <pcw_home> You can add some deadzone to the PID component
[12:38:54] <pcw_home> Yeah deadband
[12:39:14] <abrock_> thank you, I'll try that.
[12:40:46] <abrock_> Next problem: I want to use the maxhine for moving a camera _very_ precisely. I'd like to get a position accuracy better than the resolution of the linear encoders. Therefore I'd like the machine to approach the target position very slowly from the left
[12:41:26] <abrock_> Is there a way in LinuxCNC to do that?
[12:41:55] <abrock_> It seems like a rather useless feature for normal milling machines to me
[12:43:20] <pcw_home> Position accuracy is likely to always be always worse than encoder resolution
[12:44:48] <pcw_home> consider that the PID feedback is going to get very "crunchy" or "bang-bang" if you error band is only a few counts
[12:46:39] <pcw_home> low friction/ low stiction linear systems can often get the error less than say 2 counts
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[12:47:25] <pcw_home> but the error on a ballscrew/dovetail system will likely be much more
[12:48:14] <pcw_home> you can also improve accuracy by reducing acceleration/velocity
[12:54:37] <The_Ball> Lcvette, that's excellent. I found your thread in the forum
[12:55:59] <Lcvette> The_Ball: :D
[12:56:02] <Lcvette> its awesome!
[12:56:27] <Lcvette> https://qtpyvcp.kcjengr.com
[12:56:29] <Lcvette> check that out its more indepth on the project
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[13:35:03] <jym> I need to heat seal the end of plastic tubing. But I'm not sure how to create the "jaws" to press/crimp the tubing (no mill), I want the jaw faces like a /\/\/\/\/\/\ or wavy'ish
[13:36:18] <jym> any thoughts or something I can get premade and retrofit?
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[13:39:20] <Loetmichel> *GIGGLE* $me just went out for a smoke... didnt know we had tumbleweed in germany... saw a 3ft diameter Buxus sempervirens including stem and roots fly thru the street... YES, it is "a bit windy" today. :-)
[13:41:05] <Rab> jym, how about these? https://www.amazon.com
[13:42:43] <Rab> You probably want to remove the magnetic strips and mount the jaws to heated blocks, but aluminum is good for thermal conductivity and they're a lot cheaper than name-brand serrated vise jaws.
[13:43:21] <Rab> And those usually have holes in them which might affect your crimp.
[13:43:59] <roycroft> you germans are obsessed with cowboys and the american west
[13:44:24] <roycroft> some rich person probably imported some tumbleweed from our west and set it free to roam about germanu
[13:44:28] <roycroft> germany
[13:44:33] <jym> Rab: Those might work, I'd prefer the serations to be the other direction though
[13:45:00] <Loetmichel> roycroft: nope, that was a joke
[13:45:19] <Connor> in pncconf, working with 5i25 g540 firmware.. We've set up a pin to be Spindle ON. Doesn't work. We switch it to Spindle Break and Inv the output and it does. What's up with that?
[13:45:31] <Loetmichel> Buxus sempervirens is a kind of hedge plant, sometimes used to make "funny shapes" in gardens
[13:45:58] <Loetmichel> it just got uprooted by the wind from some lawn and blewn PRETTY fast thur the streets
[13:46:42] <Rab> jym, something like these? https://jaws.fotcnc.com
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[13:48:50] <andypugh> XXCoder: Here is a musical instrument you might appreciate. https://youtu.be
[13:49:24] <Rab> jym, cheaper set: https://www.ebay.com
[13:49:38] <Rab> The serrations do appear to be angled one direction, though.
[13:50:03] <jym> Rab: https://rfclipart.com
[13:50:20] <andypugh> There sre two standards, 90 degree and 60 degree serrations, one metric one imperial.
[13:50:21] <Rab> jym, ah yes
[13:50:35] <andypugh> I made my own.
[13:51:16] <jym> andypugh: I have no mill is the issue
[13:51:18] <andypugh> Also: https://www.thingiverse.com
[13:51:40] <Rab> jym, there appear to be two parts to that crimp: flat, then serrated. I guess you could sandwich some bar stock against the serrated piece.
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[13:52:33] <Rab> andypugh, it's for heat-sealing, so thermoplastic is likely contraindicated.
[13:52:43] <jym> Rab: The first pick you showed me seems to be common on some aluminum extrusions, I ight be able to look around and find something like it
[13:53:10] <jym> I'd just PREFER it to go the other direction, not a requirement
[13:53:31] <Rab> jym, yeah, you might get lucky and find something common like a door threshold extrusion with serrated cleats.
[13:53:57] <jym> Rab: That's what I was thinking, then can just cut to length as needed
[13:54:28] <andypugh> I think I misunderstood the question :-)
[13:55:11] <jym> andypugh: --> I need to heat seal the end of plastic tubing. But I'm not sure how to create the "jaws" to press/crimp the tubing (no mill), I want the jaw faces like a /\/\/\/\/\/\ or wavy'ish
[13:55:11] <jym> (10:36:18 AM) jymm jymmmm: any thoughts or something I can get premade and retrofit?
[13:55:14] <Rab> jym, how wide is your tube (and/or crimped end)?
[13:55:27] <jym> Rab: less than an inch
[13:55:38] <andypugh> Serrated-jaw pliers?
[13:56:02] <jym> andypugh: https://rfclipart.com
[13:56:12] <Rab> jym, those Yost jaws appear to be 5x1"...might be made to work at 90 degrees.
[13:56:35] <jym> Rab: but steel, not aluminum
[13:56:45] <Rab> jym, you're wanting steel?
[13:56:52] <Rab> How many pieces is your job?
[13:57:06] <jym> Nooo, I want aluminum, just a pair
[13:57:22] <Rab> jym, the Yost jaws are Al.
[13:57:35] <jym> let me look again...
[13:57:39] <Rab> https://www.amazon.com
[13:57:41] <andypugh> https://www.amazon.com
[13:58:25] <Rab> I kinda like those, but they would be tricky to heat.
[13:58:38] <jym> Rab: which would be?
[13:58:39] <roycroft> i have a non-serrated version of those pliers
[13:58:48] <Rab> The pliers andypugh linked.
[13:58:54] <jym> ah, yeah
[13:59:40] <roycroft> i have those aluminium vise jaw caps too
[13:59:48] <Rab> You could mount them in some kind of fixture with an insulated handle and cartridge heaters on the jaws, I guess.
[13:59:49] <andypugh> Heat with” https://www.ebay.co.uk
[14:00:10] <roycroft> the magnetic strip is not adhered very well and comes off - i had to reglue mine
[14:00:35] <jym> roycroft: good to know, that I won't have hard time removing it
[14:01:04] <jym> I have ways to heat the jaws, just need the jaws =)
[14:01:06] <roycroft> the adhesive is a kind of rubber cement
[14:01:19] <roycroft> not contact cement
[14:01:40] <Rab> jym, how many pcs of tubing? I'm wondering whether aluminum extrusion will be too soft for that kind of work, depending on the number of cycles.
[14:01:58] <gloops> https://www.amazon.co.uk
[14:02:30] <jym> Rab: Hopefully, a few thousand
[14:02:32] <Rab> gloops with the lateral thinking.
[14:03:19] <gloops> just take the thermostat off lol
[14:03:40] <jym> I have a hair curler, I'll check the heat output
[14:03:56] <roycroft> i'm starting to use my lathe on a regular basis, and am thinking about getting some insert tooling
[14:04:06] <roycroft> it's a 12x36, with an axa toolpost
[14:04:22] <roycroft> i'm using mainly 5/16" and 3/8" hss tooling at the moment
[14:04:33] <Rab> I'm still digging the pliers andypugh posted. I think I would remove the jaws and build a clamping fixture, though.
[14:04:39] <roycroft> but there's a much bigger variety of insert tool holders in 1/2"
[14:04:50] <roycroft> does that seem like it would be too big for that lathe?
[14:05:05] <roycroft> i know that 1/2" tooling will physically fit in the axa tootool holders
[14:05:09] <roycroft> but barely
[14:05:16] <andypugh> roycroft: https://www.youtube.com
[14:05:40] <andypugh> For threading whitworth insert tooling is the way to go, for the thread rounding.
[14:05:52] <roycroft> thanks
[14:06:01] <roycroft> i don't have a half hour to watch that now, but it's bookmarked for later
[14:06:31] <roycroft> i'm pretty sure i want to use insert tooling
[14:06:41] <Rab> jym, I think the way the crimp is formed in that stock photo is important. Note that the serrations don't reach all the way to the envelope; I believe that would risk breaking through. The flat spot seals while the serrations add mechanical strength.
[14:06:42] <roycroft> it's a matter of what size to get
[14:07:14] <roycroft> maybe i should get a cheap tool holder in 1/2" and try it out
[14:08:05] <jym> Rab: good point, I had been wondering about that - not melting open the inner end of the crimp
[14:11:08] <jym> Ok, the flat curling iron IS hot enough to soften the plastic, but the heat needs to be removed while it's still held closed until it cna cool down
[14:11:52] <jym> so i need a two stage clamp it seems
[14:16:27] * jym kisses gloops
[14:23:04] <jym> https://imgur.com
[14:23:58] <jym> https://imgur.com
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[14:27:10] <Connor> Anyone explain why in 5i25 g540 setup, that Spindle Brake works to turn the spindle on/off, but using Spindle On or Spindle CW in pncconf doesn't?
[14:27:24] <Connor> I've never seen this.
[14:28:05] <Connor> No PWM, No ecnoder.. Only On/Off.. not even CCW
[14:28:13] <jym> I'm using this one... https://www.cvs.com
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[14:29:13] <jym> connorI havne't seen pcw_home so far today, he might know
[14:29:21] <jym> Hi Lawernce
[14:29:38] <ve7it> hey jym
[14:29:41] <gloops> if its sticking you could try baking paper to line it - upvc window fabrication tricks
[14:30:07] <jym> gloops: I have teflon tape on it to prevent that
[14:30:20] <gloops> ahh ok
[14:30:25] <jym> gloops: see 2nd pic I posted
[14:30:50] <gloops> very pro setup jym
[14:31:14] <jym> gloops: hahaha, it's ghetto faboulous =)
[14:31:40] <Connor> pcw_home: if you around ping me.
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[14:31:52] <jym> gloops: But hey, it's actually working, and the weave of the teflon tape is the right about of "serration"
[14:31:59] <jym> amount*
[14:33:23] <gloops> well doesnt matter what colour so long as it works
[14:33:42] <jym> gloops: all pink =) pink_vampire would love that
[14:34:27] <jym> nd I just found one for $15 thats a bit thinner too, which might actually work a better
[14:34:59] <jym> gloops: https://www.target.com
[14:35:08] <jym> gloops: and frizz free =)
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[14:38:02] <andypugh> roycroft: I would think that 16mm is more the size for a 12x36. Is your toolholder a little undersized?
[14:39:01] <roycroft> possibly, andypugh
[14:39:39] <roycroft> a 12" lathe is right on the edge between axa and bxa
[14:40:08] <andypugh> I have Multifix A on my 10” and that can handle 20mm
[14:41:05] <roycroft> it's an a size toolpost
[14:41:19] <roycroft> and i have 100 series toolholders, which are correct for that toolpost
[14:41:54] <roycroft> i had considered a bxa, but it was more than 2x the cost of the axa, and might have been a bit too tall
[14:42:10] <roycroft> resulting in my having to use small tooling to sit low enough
[14:42:35] <roycroft> i wanted a multifix, but those were even more expensive
[14:42:37] <roycroft> maybe some day
[14:43:19] <andypugh> http://www.createtool.com
[14:43:35] <andypugh> $240
[14:43:44] <roycroft> wow
[14:43:46] <roycroft> that's not bad
[14:43:54] <roycroft> they go for 3x that much on ebay
[14:44:01] <andypugh> (Post and 4 holder kit)
[14:44:28] <roycroft> even the b size is reasonable on that site
[14:44:30] <andypugh> It’s what I have on my Holbrook. No complaints.
[14:45:09] <roycroft> multifix looks so much more flexible than the aloris type
[14:45:34] <roycroft> i've never used one, but the first time i saw one i knew it was the thing to get
[14:46:49] <roycroft> i should stop buying toolholders for my current toolpost and start saving up for a multifix
[14:46:50] <andypugh> There is a Multifix sizing guide here: http://www.lathes.co.uk
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[14:47:47] <roycroft> i have eight toolholders currently, i think
[14:48:00] <roycroft> so not a huge investment in those
[14:49:07] <andypugh> Yikes! https://www.ebay.de
[14:50:06] <roycroft> that's pretty expensive, indeed
[14:52:14] <Connor> Anyone know or seen a lever style attachment for a cut off tool? So you can just use a handle vs the cross slide?
[14:53:50] Connor is now known as connor
[14:55:31] <roycroft> i usually use the power feed for parting off
[14:55:47] <Connor> Smaller lathe, no power feed for cross slide.
[14:56:03] <roycroft> it's funny - when i was taking machining classes the instructors really stressed efficiency and working as quickly as one safely could
[14:56:29] <roycroft> but they were all paranoid about parting off, and taught to operate the lathe at 40rpm and manually part off very very slowly
[14:56:41] <roycroft> the same with knurling
[14:56:52] <roycroft> now i do both at much higher speeds
[14:57:15] <roycroft> but yeah, if you don't have a power feed it's kind of tedious parting off manually
[14:57:22] <roycroft> something with a lever would be nice
[14:58:06] <Connor> stupid spindle on/off thing for for this mini lathe is driving me nuts.
[14:58:19] <Connor> No clue why Spindle Brake works vs Spindle ON or Spindle CW
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[15:03:15] <andypugh> Connor: Something messed up in the HAL. Possibly pins swapped?
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[15:03:29] <Connor> Straight out of pncconf.
[15:03:36] <Connor> I'm looking over the .ini and .hal files now.
[15:03:45] <Connor> I'm not at the machine today.. I'm remote..
[15:03:48] <Connor> helping someone.
[15:03:51] <andypugh> Yes, but, did you tell it the right pin numbers?
[15:04:09] <Connor> It's the only pin that turns the spindle on/off
[15:04:27] <andypugh> It sounds like motion.spindle-brake is going to the motion.spindle-on physical pin.
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[15:07:42] <Connor> We had to physically swap pin 16/17 The BOB is expecting pin 16 to be the spindle ON/OFF. but that was assigned to a stepgen. so we swapped it with pin 17 which was a GPIO pin.
[15:08:05] <Connor> At lease, that's what I can tell from the .pin file and the behavior.
[15:08:40] <Connor> pin 17 on the 5i25 is assigned to nothing.. it's swapped externally with pin 16.
[15:09:06] <Connor> we tell pncconf that pin17 is Spindle Break, it works. we tell it's that it's spindle on or spindle CW.. nothing.
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[15:13:03] <Loetmichel> any BMW mechs here that can give me a tip where that exhaust is probably damaged on that 525i E39 by sound? -> https://www.youtube.com
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[15:15:32] <Loetmichel> it wasnt like that the first week after i bought it... made suddenly "pop" and went LOUD ;)
[15:16:11] <Loetmichel> funny thing: it is less pronounced when the engine is warm
[15:18:00] <Connor> okay. I think we got it figure out.
[15:18:15] <FinboySlick> Anyone figure out how to reload a savegame in real life yet?
[15:18:50] <FinboySlick> I need to redo my structural slab mould before I poured it.
[15:19:02] <FinboySlick> (and before it ultimately cracked)
[15:19:53] <FinboySlick> Loetmichel: Incidently, it also made a loud pop when it cracked.
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[15:24:50] <andypugh> Connor: That seems odd. Have yopu looked at the generated HAL files in both scenarios?
[15:26:14] <Connor> I figured it out. Stupid mappings on the pncconf are confusing.. we were reading hm2_5i25.0.gpio.016.out as PIN 17, which really maps out to pin 13.
[15:26:14] <Connor> hm2_5i25.0.gpio.007.out maps out to pin 17 which we swapped hardware wise with pin 16
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[15:51:09] <XXCoder> andypugh: lol yeah. looks like hes worjking on new one. i recall older ones
[15:51:50] <andypugh> It’s lovely, isn’t it?
[15:51:58] <XXCoder> yeah
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[15:54:56] <XXCoder> i guess he plans to add more stuff, as only drum one is in
[15:55:13] <XXCoder> ponental is huge, as there must be 30 or more exist
[15:55:16] <XXCoder> exits for balls
[15:59:37] <andypugh> Ah, yes, he has only one drum and the rhythm section so far.
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[16:03:00] <pink_vampire> hi
[16:04:54] <XXCoder> hey
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[16:10:35] <Tom_L> busy irc day today
[16:10:51] <Tom_L> hump day and nobody want's to work?
[16:12:36] <jthornton> lol I'm taking a break from taking apart the BlueWing... actually going back together now
[16:12:45] <Tom_L> what's wrong with it?
[16:13:13] <Tom_L> you said you were getting it inspected the other day...
[16:13:29] <jthornton> reverse button would not stay in, silly me I followed the service manual for removing the right handle bar
[16:13:47] <jthornton> yea all they check is lights and horn on a bike
[16:13:59] <Tom_L> all you need :)
[16:14:14] <jthornton> I should have only paid attention to removing the right cluster lol
[16:15:02] <jthornton> but I was going by the book and removed the gauge panel and in order to put it back in you have to remove a bunch of other stuff
[16:17:40] <jthornton> looks like we are right on the edge of the precip
[16:19:42] <XXCoder> Tom_L: I dont have hump work day, I have hump time off heh
[16:19:46] <XXCoder> 4 days workdays
[16:21:49] <Deejay> gn8
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[16:24:52] <pink_vampire> I'm cleaning
[16:46:38] <roycroft> with your new ultrasonic cleaner, pink_vampire?
[16:46:48] <pink_vampire> yeah!!
[16:46:54] <roycroft> do you like it?
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[16:47:15] <pink_vampire> it is very good!!
[16:47:22] <XXCoder> careful or you end up putting everything in it ;)
[16:47:32] <XXCoder> but i bet!
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[16:47:35] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: too late
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[16:47:51] <XXCoder> lol
[16:48:04] <XXCoder> though I wonder if it could do clothes (assuming big enough)
[16:48:40] <pink_vampire> i like your idea
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[16:49:10] <XXCoder> i have some shirts stained with stuff from work
[16:50:52] <roycroft> hers is a wee bit small for that
[16:51:15] <XXCoder> https://www.bjultrasonic.com
[16:51:18] <XXCoder> interesting
[16:52:43] <pink_vampire> https://i.imgur.com i need something like that to fight some wasps here
[16:54:46] <andypugh> pink_vampire: For some reason I was expecting that to be this: https://youtu.be
[16:55:54] <pink_vampire> https://imgur.com
[16:55:58] <pink_vampire> this is neat!!
[16:56:23] <andypugh> Yes, but very expensive
[16:56:29] <XXCoder> been a while since saw that, but yeah nifty
[16:56:45] <pink_vampire> maybe is there a way to tent it
[16:57:31] <roycroft> my preference is to encourage the wasps to take up residence elsewhere
[16:58:33] <XXCoder> interesting. i just kill em
[16:58:50] <pink_vampire> XXCoder: ok, but how??
[16:59:13] <XXCoder> heh rather unsafe way (if nest is small) is just flood area
[16:59:22] <XXCoder> but larger than that, eliminator
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[17:05:14] <Rab> I use a garden hose with sprayer attachment. The wasps don't interpret getting wet as an intruder, and have trouble flying, so they kinda chill out and land to dry off. With a well-placed jet you can knock the nest off and crush it, without causing a swarm.
[17:05:59] <Rab> Of course the wasps are still around, but they have to rebuild the nest or maybe move elsewhere.
[17:07:13] <roycroft> that's what i use, rab
[17:07:19] <roycroft> which is the encouragement for them to move elsewhere
[17:08:11] <roycroft> i ran over a ground wasp's nest last year when mowing the lawn
[17:08:16] <roycroft> i got stung many times
[17:08:29] <roycroft> i did kill all those wasps by drowning them
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[17:08:40] <roycroft> i don't know how else to get rid of ground wasps
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[17:10:08] <SpeedEvil> Pour molten aluminium into the nest
[17:10:25] <roycroft> the wasps were very active
[17:10:38] <roycroft> so i waited until sundown, when i knew they would all be home for the night
[17:11:14] <roycroft> i put some window screen over the hole to their nest, weighed it down with some bricks, and then sat the garden hose on top of the screen and ran the water for a while
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[17:17:50] <abrock_> if there is just one or two entrance(s) to the nest you can use an (industrial) vacuum cleaner
[17:18:22] <roycroft> i only saw one opening, but i can't be sure there was only one
[17:18:32] <roycroft> the water treatment worked fine
[17:18:53] <roycroft> the most important thing, and the thing that folks often miss, is waiting until sunset
[17:19:05] <roycroft> if you flood them out during the day hardly anyone will be home
[17:19:52] <roycroft> even doing it at sunset, i saw a few wasps hovering about their old home the next day
[17:20:06] <roycroft> i assume they were out late partying the night before and issed the flood
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[18:32:50] <jthornton> not sure how I want to handle thread pitch between metric and inch for rigid tapping part of v6...
[18:34:53] <Tom_L> v6?
[18:35:17] <gregcnc> ooh, that's tricky. I program in metric so my threading lines have goofy pitches for UN threads
[18:35:30] <jthornton> mill touch v6
[18:35:34] <Tom_L> can you have a switch to toggle the input between the two?
[18:35:38] <jthornton> I skipped v5 lol
[18:35:50] <jthornton> not yet, thinking about how I want to do that
[18:36:03] <Tom_L> i didn't plan on doing metric so i left it out
[18:36:13] <Tom_L> i figure if i do any, i can just calculate it
[18:36:28] <jthornton> I tap some metric threads from time to time but usually inch
[18:36:35] <Tom_L> generally the user will want one or the other
[18:36:43] <jthornton> yea
[18:37:00] <Tom_L> so a one time toggle would be trick
[18:37:28] <Tom_L> i select a different post if i need metric
[18:37:34] <jthornton> hmmm...
[18:37:37] <Tom_L> i have both
[18:38:09] <Tom_L> i don't think i would mix em
[18:38:44] <jthornton> I think I'll just have the inch pitch for metric...
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[19:01:11] <_unreal_> FINALLY!!!!! my order arrived
[19:01:19] <_unreal_> now I can realy work onfinishing my motor controller stuff
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[19:41:30] <_unreal_> FINALLY I just finished setting up all of my motors with connectors
[19:41:32] <_unreal_> YAY
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[21:24:21] <_unreal_> dshhhhh
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[22:20:24] <net|> https://github.com
[22:33:13] <_unreal_> how dare you break the silence
[22:33:16] <_unreal_> :)
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