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[03:43:36] <CaptHindsight> anyone have LCNC working on Debian Sid?
[03:44:16] <CaptHindsight> Debian Stretch/Devuan 2 ascii has too old of a kernel for hardware we want to use
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[03:59:01] <CaptHindsight> https://github.com
[03:59:10] <CaptHindsight> ^^ applies to LCNC
[03:59:50] <CaptHindsight> With the deprecation of python-gtksourceview2, gladevcp will not build its viewer widgets and the adoption of gtk3, glade3 and python3(.6) is likely to kill it off completely.
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[04:32:12] <x2s> CaptHindsight: I've got it running on unstable, but had to compile the packages myself
[04:32:28] <x2s> eh, testing
[04:32:51] <x2s> but unstable will be the same
[04:33:26] <x2s> don't know if there are some official packages et
[04:33:30] <x2s> *yt
[05:00:33] <drzacek> you can use backports to install newer versions of packages on debian stretch
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[06:09:34] <Tom_L> morning
[06:12:05] <jthornton> morning
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[07:15:07] <pingufan> good afternoon. :D
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[10:47:25] <Deejay> hi
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[11:12:59] <gregcnc> another kickstarter is dying but this time it's tariffs https://www.kickstarter.com
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[11:38:25] <pink_vampire> hi
[11:43:35] <perry_j1987> o/
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[11:44:19] <pink_vampire> hi perry_j1987
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[13:44:06] <CaptHindsight> gregcnc: well they also didn't add enough profit margin to the project
[13:44:25] <CaptHindsight> that is what kills many projects
[13:44:47] <gregcnc> that was the inital consensus
[13:45:15] <CaptHindsight> at the same time many open source advocates feel that profit margins over 20% are immoral
[13:45:28] <gregcnc> seems odd it took this long to figure it out
[13:46:17] <gregcnc> Musk hyperloop is now a a paved tunnel...
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[13:47:36] <CaptHindsight> gregcnc: the update in March said that "Finished with most major components"
[13:47:47] <CaptHindsight> finished meaning?
[13:48:04] <CaptHindsight> waiting for an excuse not to finish the project?
[13:48:09] <gregcnc> right which makes one of the comments on practical machinist stand out. maybe he got tired of working for free
[13:49:24] <CaptHindsight> do the recent tariffs cover machine parts?
[13:49:44] <gregcnc> to some extent
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[14:03:43] <CaptHindsight> my 500W LED's came in from China marked "electronical components"
[14:11:21] <Tom_L> they try
[14:12:29] <CaptHindsight> http://www.antekinc.com wider range of unregulated supplies than Automation tech
[14:17:38] <JT-Shop> what resistors are needed for the THCAD-10?
[14:17:53] * JT-Shop uses antek power supplies
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[14:32:13] <Lee-> I just read about that kickstarter that's claiming to be having trouble due to the tariffs. They were selling a 5 axis machine for $3999? I mean I know the tariffs caused this cost to increase, but that seems like a really low price to me.
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[14:37:10] <CaptHindsight> Lee-: no profit, all aluminum even the linear bearings
[14:37:19] <CaptHindsight> so not very durable
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[14:40:34] <CaptHindsight> Lee-: another low cost 5-axis machine https://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com
[14:41:17] <Lee-> I see. I'm still trying to find a way to cut steel reliably. I just haven't had much luck finding a reliable and low cost 5 axis machine. Closest I've found that I thought would be acceptable was ~$12k.
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[14:43:40] <CaptHindsight> Lee-: what work volume? and how fast do you need to remove material? used vs new?
[14:45:35] <CaptHindsight> https://www.ebay.com $4300 + 4th and 5th axis and conversion/moving costs
[14:45:46] <Lee-> Not for commercial use. I'm fine with a part taking a really long time (as long as it can operate unattended). Because this is more of a hobby thing, production rates aren't that important. New vs used doesn't really matter (provided it's either cheap enough that I can replace the electronics+motors or is in good condition). I'm looking for something roughly $5k, but not had much luck.
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[14:48:27] <CaptHindsight> how big?
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[14:51:25] <Lee-> A part size of up to 8" x 6" x 2" would probably be fine, but would like to go bigger just in case maybe upwards of 20" x 12" x 4". I was thinking it's probably much cheaper to buy a manually operated CNC machine like a grizzly brand and add motors for CNC control, but haven't gone down that rabbit hole very far.
[14:52:00] <CaptHindsight> https://www.ebay.com
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[14:54:11] <CaptHindsight> hah $5k https://www.ebay.com
[14:54:39] <CaptHindsight> Item location: Livingston, New Jersey,
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[14:58:00] <elmo40> CaptHindsight, you going on a road trip?
[14:58:08] <elmo40> good price for a 5-axis mill.
[15:03:29] <CaptHindsight> elmo40: no, just looking for Lee-
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[15:04:13] <CaptHindsight> " I'm looking for something roughly $5k, but not had much luck."
[15:06:10] <CaptHindsight> i have to get LCNC going with a kernel, mesa, drm etc going on gpu's to support two independent 4K displays
[15:06:12] <Lee-> Yeah, but I'm thinking roughly $5k is going to include making it function. That NJ machine auction description is worded in such a way that I'm not too confident it would actually work as is. Also that machine is a bit larger than I have a place for. I was looking at the Tormach machines, but they're roughly $15k and at that price point I believe are 4 axis. They seem much smaller than a lot of the used machines I've come across.
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[15:07:10] <CaptHindsight> Lee-: you will likely have to build it yourself with that budget
[15:07:47] <CaptHindsight> with real deals or found components
[15:08:44] <elmo40> homebrew foundry.
[15:09:05] <elmo40> just need a machine to mill the castings...
[15:09:09] <Lee-> I tried looking for plans for CNC mills, but most of them are only good for wood / soft metals. Even the ones that claim they can cut metal, the spindles seem to have very little structure around them / I think they'd break or bend easily.
[15:09:12] <elmo40> ahh, the joys of wanting your own.
[15:09:56] <CaptHindsight> Lee-: Tormach vs that Sharona, the Toramch is not nearly as rigid
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[15:10:35] <CaptHindsight> look at the travels
[15:11:21] <CaptHindsight> in many years of searching that Sharona is the closest I've seen to $0 for what you get
[15:13:08] <CaptHindsight> I could build one out of polymer granite/concrete smaller for less
[15:17:37] <CaptHindsight> forum.linuxcnc.org is down
[15:17:51] <CaptHindsight> oh back now
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[15:41:02] <Deejay> gn8
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[15:47:56] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com voice sounds familiar
[15:48:58] <CaptHindsight> Linear encoders on stepper motor CNC milling machine. Part 15 The verdict
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[17:05:11] <elmo40> nice video.
[17:08:31] <elmo40> the conclusion:the backlash is from the tight backlash nut?
[17:09:21] <gregcnc> clearance in the nu/screw bearings
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[17:10:52] <elmo40> as for the opinion on the closed loop steppers, it is all up to the controller as to what they do about the missed steps. wait to get there or cause alarm or surge power to keep up or do nothing.
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[18:12:53] <andypugh> jthornton: What the world needs now is an ISO of Mint + Preempt-RT + Plasmac :-)
[18:27:44] <JT-Shop> andypugh: I don't even know what Plasmac does lol
[18:28:19] <andypugh> Plasma config.
[18:28:36] <andypugh> (I thought you were in to Plasm)
[18:29:33] <JT-Shop> I have a plasma cutter yes, still don't know what Plasmac brings to the table
[18:30:26] <JT-Shop> here is my plasma gui https://www.youtube.com showing part nesting
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[18:34:24] <jthornton> andypugh: having any luck with RTAI on a newer OS?
[18:35:39] <andypugh> jthornton: I have been doing Other Things. Mainly struggling with magnetos. https://photos.app.goo.gl
[18:36:12] <jthornton> the fire truck?
[18:37:19] <pcw_mesa> Isn't plasmac a component?
[18:38:09] <jthornton> I think so, but not sure what it does
[18:39:30] <pcw_mesa> it encapsulate a lot of plasma height control/corner locking/ohmic-probing stuff
[18:40:02] <jthornton> ah, sounds complicated
[18:40:33] <jthornton> IIRC it does both voltage feedback and up down inputs too
[18:40:58] <pcw_mesa> Yeah that guy has been pounding at it for quite a while
[18:41:50] <jthornton> starting to get tomatoes on my Arkansas Travelers
[18:42:08] <andypugh> It has become much more than a component. It now oncorporates reverse-run and its own GUI, with kerf-crossing and THC
[18:42:55] <jthornton> so it is in the reverse-run branch?
[18:43:59] <CaptHindsight> pcw_mesa: will have time to test the xy100 soon
[18:44:09] <pcw_mesa> I dont think any of it has been pushed
[18:45:01] <CaptHindsight> andypugh: got LCNC working with Devuan 2ascii and prempt_rt in about 20 minutes from blank HD
[18:45:43] <CaptHindsight> Devuan 2 is systemD-less Jessie
[18:45:48] <pcw_mesa> no driver support on XY2-100 yet but should be pokeable with the rawread/raw write
[18:46:42] <CaptHindsight> pcw_mesa: how were you thinking of using the XY100? what IO card?
[18:46:46] <CaptHindsight> what/which
[18:46:57] <pcw_mesa> its looks like a stepgen register wise ( but has an added acceleration register)
[18:47:16] <pcw_mesa> shouldl work on any
[18:49:24] <CaptHindsight> pcw_mesa: getting some high UV output 4K projectors working right now, will move to galvo versions after these
[18:49:30] <pcw_mesa> my test was on a 7I96 (2 of 5 step/dir channels stolen for differential X,Y,CLK,SYNC, encoder index stolen for differential STATUS)
[18:51:02] <pcw_mesa> currently fixed at 16 bits, there are 18 bit versions so will parameterize later
[18:53:30] <pcw_mesa> jthornton: we have little beans on our Scarlet runners, though we lost some squash plants to hail
[18:55:37] <CaptHindsight> https://imgur.com 500W UV LED
[18:56:39] <pcw_mesa> wow, that will fry your eyes pretty quick...
[18:58:44] <CaptHindsight> will get 5.0.14-rt9 working on Debian Sid later today
[18:58:54] <CaptHindsight> tanning
[18:58:54] <andypugh> Good for exposing Screen print or PCB
[18:59:24] <CaptHindsight> andypugh: they are going into SLA printers like your friends
[18:59:36] <CaptHindsight> only with 4K projectors
[19:00:07] <andypugh> Yes, I could see that working well.
[19:00:32] <CaptHindsight> with all the newer Mesa, drm etc for dull 3d accel
[19:00:35] <andypugh> (Incidentally, he has completely decomisioned that printer and wants to use the parts t make a lathe0
[19:00:44] <CaptHindsight> oh noes
[19:00:55] <CaptHindsight> dull/full
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[19:01:39] <CaptHindsight> 5.0.14-rt9 should work with Jessie only the 3d accell stuff is only for older cards in Jessie
[19:02:10] <CaptHindsight> which hardly anyone uses with LCNC
[19:02:19] <perry_j1987> pink_vampire ya this little 3 inch vise when tightened makes the parallels loose heh does that happen on yours too? :P
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[19:04:48] <CaptHindsight> anyone know if Debian Buster still works with LCNC?
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[19:06:03] <CaptHindsight> ArcEye had mentioned "With the deprecation of python-gtksourceview2, gladevcp will not build its viewer widgets and the adoption of gtk3, glade3 and python3(.6) is likely to kill it off completely."
[19:06:16] <CaptHindsight> but then that didn't happen or effect LCNC
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[19:29:33] <pink_vampire> perry_j1987: no
[19:29:49] <pink_vampire> can you take a pic pf the issue?
[19:31:40] <jthornton> perry_j1987: the jaws are tilting and lifting up the part, if you have a plastic tip hammer you can tap the part down as you tighten
[19:32:08] <jthornton> also check the gib under the vise to make sure it's not loose
[19:34:18] <perry_j1987> tried small deadblow
[19:34:24] <perry_j1987> no effect
[19:34:45] <perry_j1987> i watched some vids on these style vises and it does not appear to be loose
[19:34:55] <perry_j1987> i havnt played with the center setscrew yet though
[19:34:56] <jthornton> it's a bit of an art when to strike the part down and if the vise is too bad it does not work
[19:35:22] <perry_j1987> this is a tiny 3 inch milling vise off amazon btw
[19:35:29] <jthornton> just as you start to tighten tap down lightly then tighten a bit more and tap again
[19:35:44] <jthornton> oh is the stock square?
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[19:36:19] <jthornton> stock that is not square will ride up to the parallel sides as you tighten and no hammer will force it down
[19:36:43] <jthornton> got a link to that vise?
[19:38:16] <Tom_L> my cheap little sherline vise did that but i was aware of it
[19:38:38] <Tom_L> the jaws pull up off the base
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[19:39:11] <Tom_L> 12.5" rain this month
[19:39:21] <jthornton> well I can convert from a julian day number to time lol
[19:39:25] <Tom_L> tennis ball size hail possible tonight
[19:39:47] <Tom_L> you are making stides jt
[19:39:48] <jthornton> holy crap
[19:40:05] <Tom_L> they started out by saying softball size
[19:40:35] <jthornton> putzing around with chicken door programming and calculating sunrise and sunset from lat/lon location and date
[19:40:45] <Tom_L> 2nd wettest May since 1888
[19:41:28] <jthornton> been pretty wet here too
[19:41:43] <Tom_L> towns are being evacuated in places
[19:41:50] <jthornton> sw mo is really wet, the mo river is over flowing in places
[19:43:24] <perry_j1987> https://amzn.to this one jthornton
[19:44:07] <perry_j1987> ah ya i was just clamping on raw sides of square bar stuff
[19:44:16] <perry_j1987> maybe thats why it lifted up
[19:44:36] <perry_j1987> i'll have to try squaring all the sides up and testing then eh? :)
[19:44:50] <perry_j1987> dont own a 123 block or anything to test with heh
[19:45:04] <Tom_L> a good vise won't lift
[19:46:02] <Tom_L> i opted for a 4" shars
[19:46:31] <Tom_L> kurt would be a better choice but it's a hobby...
[19:48:17] <jthornton> I don't have any kurt vises
[19:48:44] <andypugh> I have one. YOu can have it for free. If you collect
[19:48:55] <Tom_L> i don't either but they are the choice among machine shops
[19:49:17] <andypugh> The one I have has no jaws and is massively too big for my machine.
[19:49:37] <Tom_L> yeah, my friend offered me one free as well but it wouldn't fit
[19:50:27] <jthornton> perry_j1987: looks ok, just check the adjustment screw in the back of the movable jaw and it may be a double screw
[19:50:40] <perry_j1987> sounds like handmydown clothes heh you gotta grow into your free vise with a new bigger mill :)
[19:50:41] <Tom_L> you may be able to snug it up some
[19:50:59] <jthornton> pretty cheap for a vise
[19:51:01] <andypugh> I am actually perfectly happy with these relatively cheap things: https://www.arceurotrade.co.uk
[19:51:07] <perry_j1987> i just clamped it on a piece of rawstock and did not see any appreciable lift
[19:51:19] <perry_j1987> still looks tight to the base across the whole jaw
[19:51:41] <andypugh> (That style pulls diagonally for matched down + clamp.
[19:51:46] <jthornton> I use these https://www.glacern.com
[19:52:00] <andypugh> Just a cap=haed screw to clamp with, but works well.
[19:52:37] <Tom_L> https://www.shars.com
[19:52:43] <Tom_L> been quite happy with that one so far
[19:52:45] <jthornton> yea machine tool vises do work better than regular vises from that standpoint
[19:54:06] <jthornton> that looks similar to the other link perry_j1987 posted
[19:54:48] <jthornton> but $79 with a swivel base you know it's got to be crappy
[19:55:01] <Tom_L> i looked at those briefly
[19:55:08] <Tom_L> and decided the same thing
[19:55:21] <Tom_L> ok, this day's thunder is starting up
[19:55:27] <perry_j1987> im new to all this but i do have to say for 79 this thing is pretty nice fit and finish
[19:55:29] <jthornton> take cover
[19:55:53] <Tom_L> this is a storm watcher state :D
[19:55:55] <perry_j1987> i mean it looks ok and put indicator on fixed jaw and swept it in and its clamping stuff
[19:55:59] <Tom_L> no common sense
[19:56:32] <Tom_L> perry_j1987, i'm sure it's fine for the price
[19:57:24] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[19:57:32] <Tom_L> now you need to make one of those for it
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[19:58:02] <perry_j1987> im still basking in the glory of a "real" vise lol
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[19:58:12] <jthornton> I have some aluminum ones they were pretty cheap
[19:58:14] <perry_j1987> its still "fun" turning the stock handle lol
[19:58:36] <jthornton> nice machining on that Tom_L
[19:59:04] <Tom_L> thanks
[19:59:18] <Tom_L> all one program
[20:00:43] <Tom_L> it's nice not to have to touch off one tool at a time
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[20:01:02] <Tom_L> i had to do that alot on the sherline
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[20:03:29] <jthornton> chow time here
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[20:23:58] <roycroft> perry_j1987 that vise will work out ok, but it's not going to be near as precise as a high end one like a kurt
[20:24:26] <roycroft> if you spend some time with your favorite search engine you'll find a lot of mods and improvements that folks have done to imported vises
[20:24:31] <roycroft> and you can tighten it up quite a bit
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[20:25:15] <roycroft> don't expect to hold 0.001" with one of those though
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[20:29:31] <lanclanterns> I've got a linuxcnc problem I'm trying to solve
[20:30:05] <lanclanterns> I've got linuxcnc 2.8 compiled and working
[20:30:41] <lanclanterns> and talking to a 7I92 + 7I77 + 7I84
[20:31:01] <lanclanterns> everything works but the 7i84
[20:31:27] <lanclanterns> the 7I84 does not appear to be detected or respond
[20:32:09] <lanclanterns> It just sits there with the red Field power LED on red
[20:32:42] <lanclanterns> there is 24V on the Field power according to my multimeter
[20:32:59] <Tom_L> right ip address?
[20:33:03] <lanclanterns> the RS-422 power LED is yellow
[20:33:18] <Tom_L> err is the 84 ethernet?
[20:33:31] <Tom_L> sserial
[20:33:45] <Tom_L> on the right serial line?
[20:33:55] <lanclanterns> the 7I77 works, with the LED blinking a steady 1Hz green
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[20:34:17] <lanclanterns> lemme look at the serial line
[20:34:28] <Tom_L> look at the config for the card in the ini if there is one
[20:34:55] <Tom_L> make sure it's the way it's supposed to be
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[20:38:57] <lanclanterns> there's nothing about a 7I84 in the ini file
[20:39:21] <lanclanterns> I made the config with pncconf
[20:43:43] <lanclanterns> @tom_l I just checked, there's nothing about a 7i84 in the hal fil or the ini
[20:44:13] <lanclanterns> how do I manually select a serial port for a card?
[20:48:05] <lanclanterns> The 7i84 doesn't show up in halcmd either, the 7i92 + 7i77 are visible, but not the 7i84
[20:48:58] <Tom_L> it's been a while since i messed with sserial...
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[20:50:02] <lanclanterns> Is there a way to ping sserial?
[20:50:41] <lanclanterns> or does the hostmot2 component autoprobe?
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[20:51:34] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81
[20:51:43] <Tom_L> notice the config line at the top
[20:51:50] <Tom_L> defines the sserial port
[20:52:08] <Tom_L> you may need something like that in yours, i'm not entirely sure
[20:53:54] <Tom_L> lanclanterns you had this config working in 2.7?
[20:54:17] <Tom_L> err no, you said you just compiled it
[20:54:39] <lanclanterns> no, I did not have this working before - it's a new installation
[20:54:55] <Tom_L> you might run it by pcw_home
[20:55:25] <Tom_L> he can tell you what to add there. i dunno what bit file you have loaded on your card
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[20:56:42] <lanclanterns> Lemme check on the bit file
[20:57:38] <lanclanterns> aside from that, I have a hostmot2 section in my ini file that's labeled for informational purposes only
[20:58:00] <Tom_L> i haven't looked over the 2.8 config file that closely yet
[20:58:07] <Tom_L> i've been running 2.7
[20:58:35] <Tom_L> probably not alot of change
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[21:00:46] <Tom_L> if you do a dmesg, i'm not sure if sserial shows up there or not but you could look
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[21:03:39] <lanclanterns> dmesg doesn't seem to show anything
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[21:03:56] <lanclanterns> running mesaflash gives me some info
[21:04:23] <Tom_L> yeah
[21:04:32] <lanclanterns> looks like I have the 7i77x2d bitfile in the 7i92
[21:04:39] <Tom_L> my guess is you need to find the sserial pins
[21:04:47] <Tom_L> or add something to the config
[21:04:58] <lanclanterns> it would seem that way
[21:05:06] <Tom_L> pcw_home can get you goin i'm sure
[21:05:26] <Tom_L> iirc it's 6pm his time
[21:06:42] <roycroft> is he in cali?
[21:07:13] * roycroft thought he was somewhere in mountain time for some reason
[21:07:15] <Tom_L> yes
[21:07:24] <roycroft> then it's just after 6
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[21:09:27] <lanclanterns> I am seeing something interesting - in the 7i92 debug printout (whenlinuxcnc starts) it only shows 2 serial ports
[21:10:01] <lanclanterns> does anyone know what's in that 7i92 firmware?
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[21:14:19] <lanclanterns> or is there a way to enable the sserial port? I already did this.
[21:14:23] <lanclanterns> loadrt hm2_eth board_ip="192.168.1.121" config=" num_encoders=6 num_pwmgens=0 num_stepgens=0 sserial_port_0=000xxx"
[21:16:09] <Tom_L> yeah but i forget
[21:16:23] <Tom_L> try sserial_port_0=20xxxxxx
[21:16:35] <Tom_L> or 22xxxxxx
[21:17:33] <Tom_L> http://linuxcnc.org
[21:21:14] <lanclanterns> @Tom_L Correct me if I'm wrong - isn't the correct way to enable the sserial port is to replace the x with the mode?
[21:21:46] <Tom_L> the first 2 numbers do that
[21:21:58] <lanclanterns> for example sserial_port_0=000xxx would enable the first 3 ports to mode 0?
[21:22:10] <Tom_L> the sserial function can support multiple ports that's why the 'xxx' are there
[21:22:18] <lanclanterns> ok, I see
[21:22:23] <Tom_L> the first 2 will be enough for what you're doing
[21:22:39] <Tom_L> may only need one of them
[21:22:46] <Tom_L> but it won't hurt anything
[21:23:10] <lanclanterns> ok, I'm trying that
[21:23:28] <lanclanterns> no joy
[21:23:34] <lanclanterns> results are the same
[21:23:51] <Tom_L> i'd wait for pcw_home, i'm a bit rusty on sserial
[21:24:42] <Tom_L> it's either the bitfile or the config in some way or maybe the physical wiring
[21:28:42] <lanclanterns> I suppose I could put an ocilloscope on the port and see if I'm getting anything
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[21:29:55] <lanclanterns> it seems to me like a config issue or bitfile issue
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[21:38:42] <Tom_L> ok i just checked and sserial does show up in dmesg if it's configured
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[21:39:25] <Tom_itx> [ 5222.284426] hm2/hm2_7i43.0: IO Pin 012 (P4-25): Smart Serial Interface #0, pin RxData0 (Input)
[21:39:34] <Tom_L> different card but same idea
[21:40:17] <Tom_L> unless the ethernet cards report differently
[21:44:03] <lanclanterns> grepping my dmesg doesn't turn anything up in there
[21:44:30] <Tom_L> do a dmesg -c then run linuxcnc, then dmesg
[21:44:35] <Tom_L> -c will clear it
[21:44:49] <Tom_L> then all you have is the lcnc stuff mostly
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[21:46:39] <lanclanterns> that cleared my dmesg all right, and linuxcnc didn't put anything on it again
[21:47:00] <Tom_L> it should put something there
[21:47:09] <Tom_L> otherwise it's not loading something
[21:48:38] <lanclanterns> yes
[21:50:42] <lanclanterns> is there a way to make it's output more verbose?
[21:50:57] <lanclanterns> because it powers up and everything works but the 7i84
[21:51:05] <Tom_L> probably
[21:51:57] <lanclanterns> ok, just sawthe verbose command in the manual
[21:52:18] <Tom_L> -v or -vvv iirc
[21:52:31] <Tom_L> but i forget where to use it it's been so long...
[21:53:56] <jthornton> it's sudo dmesg -c
[21:54:25] <lanclanterns> ok, I'm getting this
[21:54:31] <lanclanterns> hm2: loading Mesa HostMot2 driver version 0.15
[21:54:31] <lanclanterns> hm2_eth: loading Mesa AnyIO HostMot2 ethernet driver version 0.2
[21:54:31] <lanclanterns> hm2_eth: 192.168.1.121: Hardware address: 00:60:1b:13:02:65
[21:54:31] <lanclanterns> hm2_eth: discovered 7I92
[21:54:31] <lanclanterns> hm2/hm2_7i92.0: Smart Serial Firmware Version 43
[21:54:31] <lanclanterns> B
[21:54:39] <Tom_L> i haven't had to mess with a config in a good while jthornton :)
[21:55:07] <Tom_L> is the 192
[21:55:15] <Tom_L> address correct?
[21:55:20] <jthornton> just checking that the chicken doors are closed on camera
[21:55:31] <Tom_L> i thought pcw_home used 10.10.10.xx
[21:55:40] <lanclanterns> yes, and it communicates with the 7i77
[21:55:54] <Tom_L> you might consider changing that later
[21:55:58] <jthornton> yea if the jumper is set right the 7i92 is 10.10.10.10
[21:56:03] <Tom_L> so it doesn't interfere with anything else
[21:56:10] <lanclanterns> My setup is 7i92 + 7i77 + 7i84
[21:56:39] <jthornton> http://gnipsel.com
[21:56:50] <lanclanterns> I believe that 10.10.10.10 is the setup? And the 192.168.1.121 is the default
[21:57:09] <jthornton> depends on the jumper setting
[21:57:19] <jthornton> where did you get the 7i92?
[21:57:57] <lanclanterns> from mesa electronics
[21:58:19] <lanclanterns> I can ping the 7i92 without a problem
[21:58:24] <Tom_L> i thought he shipped those with the 10 address
[21:58:32] <Tom_L> huh
[21:58:57] <jthornton> not seeing a 7i77 7i84 firmware for the 7i92
[21:59:15] <Tom_L> 84 is sserial
[21:59:23] <jthornton> dunno, I ship with the jumper set for 10.11.10.10
[21:59:35] <jthornton> oh that should be automagic then
[21:59:57] <jthornton> 10.10.10.10
[22:00:26] <jthornton> anyway the jumper setting is in the manual
[22:01:37] <lanclanterns> checking the manual again
[22:06:49] <lanclanterns> ok, yes, it ischanged with the jumper
[22:07:17] <lanclanterns> but I already have ethernet comm with the board. how will changing the ip help
[22:07:20] <lanclanterns> ?
[22:08:33] <Tom_L> it's just a good idea to keep it off 192.168
[22:08:44] <Tom_L> but it's up to you
[22:09:12] <Tom_L> if that's all you have on the network it shouldn't be a problem
[22:13:30] <lanclanterns> yes, you're right. I did put it on another network
[22:15:36] <lanclanterns> adding the line
[22:15:40] <lanclanterns> #net estop-ext <= hm2_7i92.0.7i84.0.2.input-00
[22:16:00] <lanclanterns> causes linuxcnc to error out, says it can't detect such a pin
[22:19:28] <lanclanterns> the cr6 led is lit, the cr7 led is not....
[22:23:45] <lanclanterns> it wouldn't be a bad 7i84?
[22:26:47] <Tom_L> i doubt it. it probably can't see the card yet
[22:27:55] <Tom_L> you get dmesg to show you the pins then you will know what pins to hook it to
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[22:29:18] <lanclanterns> I am getting plenty of output, just not in dmesg
[22:30:16] <lanclanterns> I'm going to check the serial cable, too
[22:30:34] <Tom_L> tx rx could be backwards
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[22:38:11] <lanclanterns> cable checks fine
[22:38:43] <lanclanterns> I don't understand why it doesn't spit anything into dmesg
[22:39:13] <lanclanterns> is there acompilation setting somewhere?
[22:41:12] <Tom_L> i've shared what i can remember
[22:42:22] <Tom_L> and my test pc isn't available right now
[22:43:39] <lanclanterns> thanks for your efforts, i do appreciate it
[22:44:05] <Tom_L> it's a small issue you will get
[22:44:11] <Tom_L> i'd ask pcw_home when he's around
[22:46:06] <Tom_L> he _is_ mesa
[22:57:29] <roycroft> jt is also a good resource, when he's about
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